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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by Nobody: 8:53pm On Jun 19, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


Quote from your Watchtower magazine since its your final authority on all matters. cool
YES! We quote what binds us together as final authority.
You need to know what authority means Sir.
¤The Old Testament is what binds all Jews together.
¤Jesus is the authority that binds Christians together.
¤Muhammad is what binds Muslims together.

And after this, each religious group claiming believers in either of this three has what binds them together as authority.

Whatever Kumuyi says binds all your members together whether it's stated in the Bible or not, the same goes round with all other religious groups!

But the difference between JWs and all of you is that we study the Bible intensively with an interested person who believes THERE MUST BE A CENTRAL UNIT OF CONTROL for all worshipers of the true God!
If he/she agrees with the teaching, then we present our GB as that authority {Matthew 16:19} and whatever the GB decided upon is binding him/her as a member! Act 15:27-29

Unfortunately none denominationals can't agree with this order so we will simply tell them OUR GOD AND THEIR GOD DIFFERS!

I know you can't refute whatever Kumuyi teaches you even if it contradicts that of other churches but you can't explain why it must be so the way i just did! wink
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:06am On Jun 20, 2019
Maximus69:


YES! We quote what binds us together as final authority.
You need to know what authority means Sir.
¤The Old Testament is what binds all Jews together.
¤Jesus is the authority that binds Christians together.
¤Muhammad is what binds Muslims together.

And after this, each religious group claiming believers in either of this three has what binds them together as authority.

Whatever Kumuyi says binds all your members together whether it's stated in the Bible or not, the same goes round with all other religious groups!

But the difference between JWs and all of you is that we study the Bible intensively with an interested person who believes THERE MUST BE A CENTRAL UNIT OF CONTROL for all worshipers of the true God!
If he/she agrees with the teaching, then we present our GB as that authority {Matthew 16:19} and whatever the GB decided upon is binding him/her as a member! Act 15:27-29

Unfortunately none denominationals can't agree with this order so we will simply tell them OUR GOD AND THEIR GOD DIFFERS!

I know you can't refute whatever Kumuyi teaches you even if it contradicts that of other churches but you can't explain why it must be so the way i just did! wink

Check out the Christian grid and see where we differ.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by Nobody: 7:14am On Jun 20, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


Check out the Christian grid and see where we differ.
Let the FRUITS bear you witness!
For Jesus said 'BY THEIR FRUIT' not by their claim! Matthew 7:15-20

So get to work for Jesus and by your FRUIT, honesthearted and sincere individuals will notice the FRUIT in your church! cheesy

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by MightySparrow: 1:48pm On Jun 20, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


I don't understand what you mean by 'toys' Can you please explain? smiley
The bible says no prophecy is for private interpretation. this people claim that they are the only christian group serving god. they condemn others. there was a time they claim that when their membership reach 144,000 they end would come. Rutherford one time leader claimed he was the sole ordained 'faithful and wise servant' more faithful than Russel the founder. Failed interpretation of prophesies and so on.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:58pm On Jun 20, 2019
MightySparrow:


The bible says no prophecy is for private interpretation. this people claim that they are the only christian group serving god. they condemn others. there was a time they claim that when their membership reach 144,000 they end would come. Rutherford one time leader claimed he was the sole ordained 'faithful and wise servant' more faithful than Russel the founder. Failed interpretation of prophesies and so on.

Yes, you are right. The Watchtower Society is the self-proclaimed prophet of God who in 1920 predicted the physical return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old by the year 1925. They didn't show up in 1925 and instead of them to admit they made a false prophecy they continued to string their followers along and proceeded to build a mansion in San Diego, California for those prophets, still hoping they would appear, but they never did. cool

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:41pm On Jun 21, 2019
Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies Contd.

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies

OLAADEGBU:


1. 1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).

2. 1899 " . . . the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:10pm On Jun 22, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies Contd.

https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies



2. 1899 " . . . the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).

3. 1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:45pm On Jun 25, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


3. 1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).

4. 1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:12pm On Jul 04, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


4. 1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).

5. 1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:19pm On Jul 06, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


5. 1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).

6. 1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:25pm On Jul 11, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


6. 1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).

7. 1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).

8. 1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:58pm On Jul 12, 2019
nutarious:



This Robot is Here Again. Emusan has just schooled you, Accept you lied. Lol �

Mr Robot, this prophecy actually disturbed you, your Organisation lied that God said, the greatest sin anybody could have committed.

When Satan looks down and see what you are doing, he will be so happy with you . Afterall, you are his beloved Son

Emusan did a good job there. Way to go! cheesy
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:56pm On Jul 15, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


7. 1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).

8. 1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262).

9. 1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:04pm On Jul 16, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


9. 1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).

10. 1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:02pm On Jul 17, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


10. 1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).

11. 1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by Janosky: 12:15am On Jul 18, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


10. 1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
OLAADEGBU losing sleep over irrelevant issues makes his posts idiotic.
https://www.nairaland.com/4366613/pastor-kumuyi-remove-some-doctrines

Your cult of personality god of men have been sawing ,chopping and editing his junk doctrine several times over the years without any hullabaloos from you & other gullible sheepies..... (and will continue to saw& edit more junk to spoon feed his gullible sheepies).


**"While they were listening to these things, he told another illustration, because he was near Jerusalem and they (Jesus disciples) thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear instantly" Luke 19:11.

***** Acts1:6
"So when they had assembled, they asked Jesus: Lord are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time"

Apostle Peter even denied his lord and Master before men several times....

In the past, Jesus disciples committed the same error you accused JWs of.
Therefore you're an attention seeking empty barrel, crying wolf where there's none.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:11pm On Jul 19, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


11. 1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).

12. 1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:46pm On Jul 20, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


12. 1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).

13. 1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:03pm On Jul 22, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


13. 1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).

A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also?

A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does. The Jehovah's Witness organization, that claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible" (Matt. 24:24).
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:10pm On Mar 31, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also?

A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does. The Jehovah's Witness organization, that claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible" (Matt. 24:24).

Have they learnt anything yet? undecided
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by haddeylium(m): 8:34pm On Mar 31, 2022
Jehovah's Witnesses do not prophesized neither do they believe in modern day gift of it.
You cannot be a False prophet if you're not a Prophet at all cheesy

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by Janosky: 8:45pm On Mar 31, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also?
Hypocrisy of kumuyi slave grin cheesy grin
How can you trust that kumuyi will not tell you 2morrow that Satellite TV broadcast is Satan's tool box?

Kumuyi Your god of men has been proven he's editing and still chopping & change DLC doctrines,yet you are throwing tantrum about JWs.
OLAADEGBU:

A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does.
Oga, @1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6 & Matthew 26:31-35,Luke 24:21,25, your own Bible proven you are LYING.
OLAADEGBU:


The Jehovah's Witness organization, that claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible" (Matt. 24:24).
Oga, you are typing GIBBERISH, 2 reasons proven that.
1.
Your god of men gave you a FALSE prophecy of prosperity and abundance in 2020 which NEVER came to pass.
Na inside lockdown & global pandemic you see abundance & prosperity?
Which DLC member infected with COVID 19 did your Pastorpreneurs cure? grin
2.
Oga, your claim is NOT true.
@1 Samuel 3:20 & Isaiah 43:10;(ASV) is prophet Samuel a JEHOVAH's witness?
YES.

1 Samuel 16:6, did JEHOVAH chose Eliab as prophesied by Samuel?
Samuel made a FALSE prophecy

Luke 24:21,25 & Acts 15:14, are those Jesus calls "FOOLISH" his JEHOVAH's servants?
YES.
Their prophecy/prediction were FALSE.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by Janosky: 9:05pm On Mar 31, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Have they learnt anything yet? undecided

Have you learnt anything from Matthew 24:34? Oga, go and learn .
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:19pm On Mar 31, 2022
haddeylium:


Jehovah's Witnesses do not prophesized neither do they believe in modern day gift of it.
You cannot be a False prophet if you're not a Prophet at all cheesy

Why then do they predict the future? undecided

"In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God."
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:20pm On Mar 31, 2022
Janosky:


Hypocrisy of kumuyi slave grin cheesy grin
How can you trust that kumuyi will not tell you 2morrow that Satellite TV broadcast is Satan's tool box?

Kumuyi Your god of men has been proven he's editing and still chopping & change DLC doctrines,yet you are throwing tantrum about JWs l

Oga, @1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6 & Matthew 26:31-35,Luke 24:21,25, your own Bible proven you are LYING.

Oga, you are typing GIBBERISH, 2 reasons proven that.
1.
Your god of men gave you a FALSE prophecy of prosperity and abundance in 2020 which NEVER came to pass.
Na inside lockdown & global pandemic you see abundance & prosperity?
Which DLC member infected with COVID 19 did your Pastorpreneurs cure? grin
2.
Oga, your claim is NOT true.
@1 Samuel 3:20 & Isaiah 43:10;(ASV) is prophet Samuel a JEHOVAH's witness?
YES.

1 Samuel 16:6, did JEHOVAH chose Eliab as prophesied by Samuel?
Samuel made a FALSE prophecy

Luke 24:21,25 & Acts 15:14, are those Jesus calls "FOOLISH" his JEHOVAH's servants?
YES.
Their prophecy/prediction were FALSE.

These only proves that you've not learnt anything. cool
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:22pm On Mar 31, 2022
Janosky:


Have you learnt anything from Matthew 24:34? Oga, go and learn .

Just answer my question. Don't change the subject.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by Janosky: 10:34pm On Mar 31, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


These only proves that you've not learnt anything. cool

What have you learnt from Kumuyi changing deeper life church doctrines?

Has OLAADEGBU learnt anything from
1 Samuel 16:6 & 1 Samuel 3:20 ?

[b]Oga,Your FALSE claim :
OLAADEGBU:

A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet


has been debunked by Prophet Samuel's FALSE prophecy in the holy Scriptures. grin
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:39pm On Mar 31, 2022
Janosky:


What have you learnt from Kumuyi changing deeper life church doctrines?

See how folks fail examinations without difficulties. Focus on the topic at hand and stop grasshopping. cool
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by Janosky: 10:40pm On Mar 31, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Just answer my question. Don't change the subject.
"Millions now living would never die"
is very similar , synonymous with
"this generation will by not pass away..."

Oga, is "this generation" of Matthew 24:34 in Jesus Christ days still alive in this 21st century?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by Janosky: 10:55pm On Mar 31, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


See how folks fail examinations without difficulties. Focus on the topic at hand and stop grasshopping. cool

Oga, remove the rafters in your eyes.
Your god of men is renowned for Changing and editing your DL church doctrines in the name of "paradigm shift", the phrase you coined on this forum. grin cheesy
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And Their Many False Prophecies by haddeylium(m): 11:38am On Apr 01, 2022
OLAADEGBU:


Why then do they predict the future? undecideda
This is the question you ought to have asked before allowing yourself to be misguided by all these misleading articles.
Everybody knows our belief is that miraculous gift of prophesy disappeared since the days of the apostles.

Check out extract from many of our official journals and watchtower articles.

We have not the gift of prophecy.” (January 1883, page 425)

“Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible.” (December 15, 1896, page 306)

does not mean those now serving as Jehovah’s witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes.” (May 15, 1947, page 157)

“The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic.” (August 15, 1950, page 263)

“The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers.-2 Timothy 3:16 And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. Proverbs 4:18 ”​—February 15, 1981, page 19.


We have never Claim to making any predictions or prophesy.What we have been guilty of is misunderstanding some of the prophecies (That is in the Bible already) that relate to the “end times”.
No one enter a trance or wakeup from a dream to tell you this or that. NO!
We compare the scripture to scripture and try to understand what it says about the end times

Afterall, we never claimed that our researches are infallible and we're always ready to change if we find out we are incorrect. Life in general is like that. Some people change as they learn and grow, some refuse to even learn.
I pray you do.

For example, we used to celebrate Christmas but when we found out it's unscriptural, We do the right thing cheesy


"In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God."

you check the article, you can notice that we are compared with “prophets” (in inverted commas, mind you) metaphorically, because we publicly proclaim God’s message. Only that that message is the one in the Bible, not a personal divine revelation.

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