TAO11:

The two peoples have lived interspersed in the Awori frontier (and other frontiers) for several centuries.

So, it is understandable that some Egun may also claim they’re Yoruba.

But Yorùbá by itself is a different ethnic group.

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“These far western Yoruba subgroups lived interspersed here and there with a people called the Adja or Aja (consisting of such subgroups as the Egun or Gun, Allada, and Fon). There was considerable closeness between the Yoruba and the Aja. Like the Yoruba language, Aja belonged to the Kwa subfamily within the larger Niger-Congo family of languages. It seems obvious that when the Yoruba group encountered the Aja people in this area, it continued and flowed past them westwards, so that over time Yoruba subgroups existed to the east, west and north of the Aja. With the Aja almost enveloped by the Yoruba, profound cultural affinities further developed between the two, with the smaller (the Aja) greatly influenced by the larger (the Yoruba) — in language, religion, and social and political institutions. Ultimately, the Yoruba and Aja became more or less one cultural area, and the Yoruba language became a sort of lingua franca for the two peoples, which means that while the Aja spoke their own language (which was strongly influenced by the Yoruba language) most of the Aja spoke Yoruba.*”

~ Stephen Adebanji Akintoye, “A History of the Yoruba People,” Amalion Publishing (2010), p. 9.

Cheers.

Well there is no one Yoruba ethnic group and certainly not at the time you describe
Just as there is space between Egun and Yoruba so also between Oyo and Ijebu or Ondo and Egba

This Yoruba identity is a Nigerian creation

They do not use that word to describe themselves in Ajase/Porto Novo

aribisala0:
[s]Let me educate you a little as you are clearly ignorant
After independence Nigeria had 3 regions North East and West with Lagos City as the FCT
The Minister was Yaradua's father

After the 1966 coup Lagos State was created by taking land from the former Western Region and adding it to the FCT which was the city of Lagos.
Lagos City remained as FCT . Note LAGOS STATE WAS NEVER CAPITAL OF NIGERIA just the City
Those places Epe Ikorodu Badagry and Ikeja were ALL part or the Western region
and together with Lagos City were called the 5 divisions of Lagos . Each had a senator in the 2nd republic.
They are not Awori enclaves .Anyone saying what you are saying is not from Lagos State and does not know its history[/s]

What has colonial/post-independence colonial geo-political constructs got to do with the pre-colonial and ancient history??

Mthew. À ń wí’rú, ó ń wí’rù.

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https://www.nairaland.com/7055474/olu-warri-visits-abiodun-predicts/6#111543683

Cheers.

Gotze1:
What did he do ti you?

Said he is selling google voice number after I transferred money to him, he stopped replying my messages

aribisala0:
Well there is no one Yoruba ethnic group and certainly not at the time you describe
Just as there is space between Egun and Yoruba so also between Oyo and Ijebu or Ondo and Egba

This Yoruba identity is a Nigerian creation

They do not use that word to describe themselves in Ajase/Porto Novo

Lol.

I won’t be paid to educate you. So why should I even bother? Lol.

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But for others whose intention is to learn sth:

(1) First of all, the name “Yoruba” predated Nigeria. It appears in written form in an early 1600s treatise of the Tuareg writer Ahmad Baba.

(2) Even if the name used to be “Japs34$@uts” and not “Yoruba”, nothing in my comment is changed by your reply.

(3) The Yorubas have referred to themselves by more than one group name in the course of the centuries, viz. “Olukumi,” “Yoruba,” “Ọmọ-Oodua,” etc.

(4) These names indicate the unique common identity of every city-state/subgroup/dialect within the group.

(5) Lastly, I forgot to mention that the quotation which you tried to discredit (by citing yourself as evidence) is from an actual work on history, by an actual historian — a professional/academic historian at that.

Of course, I remember that you know history better than the historians of African & Yoruba history. /s.

Cc: nisai

nzeobi:


Said he is selling google voice number after I transferred money to him, he stopped replying my messages

Haa, that is how they do. Did you go to the bank to report the account you sent the money to?

TAO11:
The general Itsekiri populace are of the Yoruba stock directly from Ijebu and from some other parts of Yorùbáland.

The Itsekiri royal house, however, claims its descent is from the Benin royal house.

The Itsekiri royal house makes it clear, however, that the Benin royal house (from which it came) is of IFẹ origin/roots.

So any how you look at it, this king is correct about his assertion that Itsekiri is part of the Yoruba stock.

But Bini folks won't agree to this o

Nicho118:

But Bini folks won't agree to this o

Any River that forgets its source is bound to dry out

Nicho118:

But Bini folks won't agree to this o

Na Ṣeun geh Nairaland.

Whether someone agrees or not doesn’t change that as a FACT.

diplomat058:
LooL Your don't know what you are saying. Eguns are Yorùbá just like Àwórì. I thought you had a sensible rebuttal but all you had as a reference was border adjustments as if there are not Yoruba tribes domiciled beyond the Nigerian borders (Porto Novo/Ajashe, Popo are examples). You don't have an argument, Kid. By the way, I won't even dignify your comment about the Àwórì subgroup of Yorùbá with a response. Go to Isalẹ Èkó yourself and tell Àwórì they aren't Yorùbá. LooL !

Egun aren't Yoruba o. We just happen to be neighbors. It's like saying Tapa/Nupe or Edoid groups are Yoruba just because they live within close proximity to Yoruba folks. That's why Egun language is unintelligible to the average Yoruba person. Ditto Tapa and Edoid languages.

DCmonster:
Ipokia is Egunland and not Yoruba land. He is talking about oil discovery in Yoruba land not Egunland.

Ipokia is Awori and Egbado both are Yorubas

His Mother is from Ogun State

DCmonster:
stories!
Why did jakande incorporate egun and awori language into news casting.

Do Oyo state, osun state, ekiti state, cast news in 3 languages?
Quit being stupid and answer the questions.
Forget all the fake stories by your scholars all in bid to get PhD.

Eguns are first Cousins of the Yorubas who Settled in Badagry in the late 17th Century as guests of the Awori Yoruba after fleeing the King of Dahomeys Wars in the Area of Whydah in Benin Republic

They are descended from the Branch of the Yorubas called the Popos

The Olu Popo was a Son Of Oduduwa and he was the founder of the Popo Kingdon, the Egun became Akan Speakings after intermarriage and living under Fon Rulers wko where Akan Speaking and conquered Part of the Popo Kingdom which straddles parts of Southern Benin Republic and Togo

In the 17th Century the Popo Kingdom and all Dahomey was conquerd by the Yorubas of Oyo after which many Eguns became Bilingual Speaking Yoruba in addition to Egun

Badagry was under the Alaafin of Oyo and the Egun were Citizens of the Oyo Empire that is why many consider them as Yorubas though in fact they are Eguns


The Eguns are a mixture descended from intermarriages between both the Fon and Yoruba tribes in dahomey Kingdom and came under the Alaafin

The Egun Settled In Badagry after their Awori Yoruba Cousins gave them refuge there from the War they had fled in Whydah

Christistruth00:
Ipokia is Awori and Egbado both are Yorubas

The “Ọba of Ipokia” was one of the Yoruba monarchs present at the “Conference of Yoruba Chiefs” in 1937.

In sum, not only is he a Yorùbá monarch, he is actually an important Yoruba monarch.

Cc: Maxymilliano

Christistruth00:




Ipokia is Awori and Egbado both are Yorubas

It’s easy to mislabel all of Ogun west as Egbado or Awori. Ipokia is mainly Anago which is continuous with those in Benin Republic.

Ipokia is unique because it’s one of the few parts of SW, where many people have family ties to yorubas in Benin republic. Although those in Ipokia are commonly mistaken for egbado, both are distinct groups despite many similarities.

9jakool:


It’s easy to mislabel all of Ogun west as Egbado or Awori. Ipokia is mainly Anago which is continuous with those in Benin Republic.

Ipokia is unique because it’s one of the few parts of SW, where many people have family ties to yorubas in Benin republic. Although those in Ipokia are commonly mistaken for egbado, both are distinct groups despite many similarities.

Thank you for this information confirming that Ipokia are Anago Yoruba


Cc Tao11

DoctorOlasDesk:



Warri isn't yoruba

But Iwerre people are right? You must know more than the itsekiri elders.

jneutron4000:
No mind them, they have tried to twist history, but the evidence solid. The fiction runaway Prince Ekaladehran all because of Ekiokpagha treaty of the Aborigines. Anyways that is their headache
Long live the Olu of Warri.

Well, lies don't always last.

Nicho118:
attach or not.. if them bit more than they can chew... Ijaw and Urhobo people go deal with them attach or not.. if them bit more than they can chew... Ijaw and Urhobo people go deal with them

You'd better learnt to live in peace with your neighbours.

do4luv14:





how sure are you, how can a people choose an outsider as a king??

it's just like saying bubu is a Sudanese

How did the first Oba of Ibinu (Igodomigodo) come from Ife? How did Oba of Eko come from Ibinu?

Onyiiobi7735:

Lol! Why are you so pained? Anambra,Imo and Abia states have oil in commercial quantities. You can then go and hug transformer.

Yes, but the total quantity of oil produced from those 3 states is not up to what Ondo generates. Google search can help.

27Pushing30:


Today's ondo state was hitherto part of the benin kingdom , History also tells us that edo people "owned" lagos. do we go to the similarities with some igbo people?

If not for the British you no go dey talk all this rubbish.

Migration and settlement is different from ancestry

There can't be a kingdom without a king. Who was the first Oba of Ibinu Kingdom and where did he come from? Who changed the name Igodomigodo to Ile Ibinu and why has this change not been reversed?

duro4chang:
He explained that his visit was to identify with the Yoruba people, as Warri people regard themselves as

part of the Yoruba stock.
Wailers can begin to wail now.

Congratulations, now your joy knows no bounds. What a good news, it will surely provide job and probably grants you scholarship to study in any Nigeria polytechnic of your choice. Efi

do4luv14:






Now who was the father, grand father, and great grandfather of Oranmiyan?

Tell us if you know.

DCmonster:
who is this boy?
Badagry was initially not part of Nigeria, the boundary and border was at agbara before obasanjo renegotiated it.
You think you are talking to a novice, you might as well call aworis Yorubas.

If eguns are Yoruba why did latest jakande incorporated egun language and awori language Into Lagos television daily news broadcast?
Keep fooling yourself.

I once lived in 242 recce battalion barracks ibereko, badagry.

What is the meaning of Awo-ri? What is "Awo"? What is "ri"? You had better consulted google before you tell an Awori man from Ota or Isheri-Olofin in Ogun State that he's not a Yoruba man.

27Pushing30:


West Africa no really get written history and these colonials have their own way of twisting things.

It’s difficult for y’all to understand sha

Las las believe wetin you want

Please tell us the meaning of Olori-Ogun in Igodomigodo language? What is "Ori"? What is "Olori"? What is "Ogun"? And What is "Olori-Ogun"?

wiseoneking:
Congratulations, now your joy knows no bounds. What a good news, it will surely provide job and probably grants you scholarship to study in any Nigeria polytechnic of your choice. Efi

I said it . Wailers will wail. What makes feel sad about the post? Aswear you will wail taya.

PeterUdeme:


Check history bro. I even have the map of the two empires. Don't argue.

Which map? The one made by the Aborigines themselves or the one made by the foreigners? It's a public knowledge that formal education which produces the knowledge required for map drawing was brought by the Europeans.

MDM2021:


Which map? The one made by the Aborigines themselves or the one made by the foreigners? It's a public knowledge that formal education which produces the knowledge required for map drawing was brought by the Europeans.

So what are you trying to say?

27Pushing30:


I have attached some things to enlighten you… just on ondo and akure kingdoms o las las we will all continue to be ignorant .

Because the Brit’s favored the Yoruba’s doesn’t mean we don’t know history o.

All you are saying does not indicate any conquest of Owo or Akure. Rather, it suggests a mixture of the Binis and the Yorubas whether true trade, marriage or due to their close proximity. Your argument simply supports what the Yorubas know and have always said that the Obaship in Ibinu land, not the Ogisoship please, was from Ife. Oranmiyan went to Ibinu from Ife and he returned to Ife. He neither died in Ibinu nor was buried there. If he was from Ibinu, he would not have had any cause to return to Ife. Igodomigodo and Ogiso are quite different from Binis and Oba respectively.