plaindealer:



So, you have historical facts that say NATO and the rest of the world must be dictated to and the world and NATO owe Putin and must bend over to his dictates or he will invade and slaughter civilians and create havoc all over the place.

Where did you get that history from?

Russia was not even a country when NATO was created so exactly what's the meaning of your pointless historical point?

USSR lost the cold war and relevance because of their foolish adventure in Afghanistan for 10 years, they not only lost to the Mujahedin in Afghanistan but also broke and bankrupt which led to the collapse of the USSR, and their worthless Warsaw pact, the equivalent of NATO.

So, explain to us what historical facts connected Russia with NATO or the formation of NATO when in fact there was nothing like PUtin or Russia when NATO was created so how did NATO reach an agreement with Russia, a country that didn't exist when NATO was created or part of Warsaw pact and the USSR?

USSR lost because of their foolishness and dumb adventure in Afghanistan, the same way he is losing and risking the collapse of Russia with his own dumb and foolish adventure in Ukraine because he did not learn from History and the sad and pathetic mistakes of his forefathers.

You miseducated yourself with your own flawed history.

Now, I understand why you don't know anything about NATO. You don't read at all. It will do you well if you start today.

plaindealer:



Another lame rubbish about the history of NATO?

Please explain what the history of NATO got to do with Putin or Russia which was not a country when NATO was created?

Was putin, and Russia was at the discussion table when NATO was created or when the USSR, the Warsaw pact and NATO went toe to toe?

Your history teacher fed you nonsense.

It's alright; I understand this history and lesson is bigger than what you can comprehend. You can now continue your ignorance.

Owopariola01:


Now, I understand why you don't know anything about NATO. You don't read at all. It will do you well if you start today.

What's the history of NATO got to do with the topic?


When people lack you lack sane, rational and intelligent things to talk about or intelligently articulate, you keep repeating the same meaningless jargon.

I still don't know what the history of NATO which I do know more than you a million times going to do with Russia that was not a country when NATO was created? I still don't get the relevance, but it is obvious that you are stuck inside your own ignorant hole that you can not get out of so you keep repeating and hiding under the same rubbish.

Please go away if you don't have ayhing meaningful to discuss.

olas24u:


Every country has opposition, and that is an internal crisis.

So why do people make it look like the United States started it in Libya?

Libyans wanted what they got just as Nigerians got what they wanted.

Visasolution048:

So why do people make it look like the United States started it in Libya?

Libyans wanted what they got just as Nigerians got what they wanted.

So if the igbos bring in America to support them in getting biafra, you will say Nigerians got got they wanted? It was just a section of Libya called bengahzi.

Visasolution048:

So why do people make it look like the United States started it in Libya?

Libyans wanted what they got just as Nigerians got what they wanted.

NATO is an alliance that was formed to fight former soviet union. It didnot have any business in Libya an African country.

Visasolution048:

So why do people make it look like the United States started it in Libya?

Libyans wanted what they got just as Nigerians got what they wanted.

Formed in 1949 with the signing of the Washington Treaty, NATO is a security alliance of 30 countries from North America and Europe. NATO's fundamental goal is to safeguard the Allies' freedom and security by political and military means.

Visasolution048:

So why do people make it look like the United States started it in Libya?

Libyans wanted what they got just as Nigerians got what they wanted.

It was an internal crisis, just like the ipob crisis at the moment. Then an alliance came to support a section.,because it was alleged that they were shooting people.

olas24u:

It was an internal crisis, just like the ipob crisis at the moment. Then an alliance came to support a section.,because it was alleged that they were shooting people.

Your comparison is wrong sir....It wasn't like the ipob crises.

olas24u:


Formed in 1949 with the signing of the Washington Treaty, NATO is a security alliance of 30 countries from North America and Europe. NATO's fundamental goal is to safeguard the Allies' freedom and security by political and military means.

Why the lecture ?

olas24u:


NATO is an alliance that was formed to fight the former soviet union. It did not have any business in Libya an African country.

I no come understand this lecture ooh..

I asked that previous question because I wanted to make it clear that the majority of Libyans wanted Gaddafi out...It's nothing relating to NATO or US...US or NATO may have supported them, ooh to make their dream come through...

plaindealer:



In your ill-informed and misguided world, do you think Russia doesn't want a weak, economically and military worthless NATO/US/EU?

Military and economic dominance between adversaries goes both ways. Putin can not force his neighbors to be his friend or cower under Russia's influence.

Putin's latest aggression is another reminder and reason in the region to hate Putin and Russia and even never to associate with Russia, people don't like brutes, bullies, and evil people.

You don't go around invading countries, butchering civilians, blowing up, and decimating other countries just because you have issues with NATO or other alliances.

NATO/EU/US and the rest of the world don't owe Russia anything, if Putin is feeling insecure, that's his problem, he has zero right to invade other countries.

After his latest foolery and dumb act, how many countries or which of his neighbors are willing to be his friend.?

Now, they all want to join NATO, they are buying weapons to protect themselves because they are afraid of the mad man next door, they want security guarantees from the West to protect their countries against the lunatic in Moscow.

Btw, your US and Mexico analogy is pointless and meaningless because the US is not Russia or Putin and the US and Mexico don't have the same kind of toxic relationship that Putin has with his neighbors.

Hello,
I disagree with your submission.
Do you know how many countries the so called WEST/EU/NATO/US has destroyed in the last 50years? Who has sanctioned them or bring them to book?
Buying weapons by Russian neighbours to protect them selves is in the minds of every White countries if you allow me use the word "White contires".
Forget sentiment abeg!!!

To you it seems Putin goofed but to me he didn't.

In geopolitics, the security of your people is number 1 and that's what Russia is fighting for. How can US and Russia have an agreement in 1991 after the dissolution of USSR that NATO won't move an inch to the East and ever since then, US & NATO kept expanding and added Estonia, Lithuania & Latvia which shares border with Russia. Russia has been warning the US and NATO for more than 10 years now but they kept on ignoring and playing his bluff.

Not until 2008 when NATO declare that they will accept Georgia and Ukraine, that was when Russia went into war with Georgia. He warned them that Ukraine will also not join as per their 1991 agreement and still they refused.

In 2014 US orchestrated a coup in Ukraine by funding a Neo-Nazi movement now called ASOV battalion to revolt then toppled Viktor Yanukovych government (the then sitting president) who was a close ally of Russia. Now the people in the west of Ukraine supported the coup while those in the East didn't because they were Russian speaking Ukrainians. So those in the East started their own protest to reinstate their President or they will divide the country. Those in Crimea quickly did a referendum to join Russia. And that how the war started, the new Government supported by the US drove their tanks to East Ukraine and killed 14k Russian speaking Ukrainians from 2014 -2021. US and UN never said anything then. Is that not wickedness?

Now that Russians has had enough, you said it goofed? In 1962 when Russia was putting it base in Cuba US threatened a World War 3 and Russia abandoned the Military base idea. So why can't US and NATO do the same if they had a clean motive?

Now to answer your question; Russia's economy might be slightly affected for now but can't crumble because EU will struggle to also survive without Russia's Gas, Oil, Coal, Wheat & many other resources etc. Germany, Hungary, Italy and many other EU countries largely depend on Russia's gas for survival. All over Europe now prices have increased by 10% and by next month it is expected to climb another 20% so it is affect everyone.

And as a matter of fact; US dollar value with be on a decline now while Rouble will continue to gain now that Ruble is now backed by Gold not by USD. So if you want to buy anything from Russia, you buy in roubles. Despite all the useless sanctions, Roubles has come back to the initial value of 75rouble/$ exactly the price it was when the war started before jumping to 145R/$ when sanctions started pouring in.

SO? whats next

And to talk on China taking advantage; Well, the EU has even been enjoying cheaper price from Russia compared to the new deal they just got from the US. India has also signed a deal with Russia for a cheaper oil and gas from Russia just last week. It's business, Russia has the oil in abundance, so it won't lack oil in the next 50 years. try check the amount of Land Russia owns. It's 8 times bigger than the whole Western countries.

So the only Country that will suffer more is Ukraine because they currently have zero economy. They made a grave mistake and that will cost them the Eastern Ukraine (Donbas) where there are more Concentrated bulk of oil and gas. So on the long run, Russia gains

CharleyBright:


Dude, did you hear yourself?
What do you know about North Korea
North Korea that is so backward and struggling as compared to South Korea such that North Are escaping to the other side.
The only thing North Korea is known for is the leader throwing knockouts.
Why don't you apply for Visa to North Korea so you know how shitty that shit hole is.

Back to Russia issue. Putin goofed.
The sanctions can cripple Russia for decades. Russia's largest market is Europe. With the entire Europe shunning Russia, the country can not be contented that it will sell all her products to China alone. China will definitely take advantage ofthe situation. Las Las they loss.

Thank you.

Those useless bunch invade Libya for no reason. Stole Libya's Gold reserve. 1000 tons of gold worth $7b was stolen and till today they're still stealing their Oil.

The US and NATO are just a bunch of International Bandits who go about preaching Democracy in other to steal from others.

Please where are our Nigerian Leader keeping their money? IS it not in the US, UK, Switzerland? Why are they not arresting them or exposing them? It's because they keep getting our oil for free from your so called government.

Kpilo101:

Hello,
I disagree with your submission.
Do you know how many countries the so called WEST/EU/NATO/US has destroyed in the last 50years? Who has sanctioned them or bring them to book?
Buying weapons by Russian neighbours to protect them selves is in the minds of every White countries if you allow me use the word "White contires".
Forget sentiment abeg!!!

No, the US always use the opposition. They will pay them to cause an uprising and then they will come in as Military Intervention to finish the job.

How about now. Are the Libyans now secure and enjoying? . No more free Education, no more free salary etc that they usually enjoy from Gadaffi. Maybe you should check the before and Now of Libya to understand

Visasolution048:

I no come understand this lecture ooh..

I asked that previous question because I wanted to make it clear that the majority of Libyans wanted Gaddafi out...It's nothing relating to NATO or US...US or NATO may have supported them, ooh to make their dream come through...

necz:
No, the US always uses the opposition. They will pay them to cause an uprising and then they will come in as Military Intervention to finish the job.

How about now. Are the Libyans now secure and enjoying? . No more free Education, no more free salary, etc that they usually enjoy from Gadaffi. Maybe you should check the before and Now of Libya to understand

That is the point boss...That is the point. Gej became Hero when everybody tasted Buhari. Libyans knew all these things before staging a revolt.

That is why I keep saying we should learn to think for ourselves. Not letting people think for us, then tell us what to think...No...

Libyans hated Gaddafi for no reason..they wanted his head chopped off..U.S and NATO assisted them to achieve their dreams..but now reality don set..Everybody dey blame the US...

Leaving Libyans who are the most stupid of all.

Well said.

Their stupidity is paying them the poverty dividend now

And as you've correctly stated. We need to look after ourselves because US will only come to steal and destroy whenever they see the opportunity.

Visasolution048:


That is the point boss...That is the point. Gej became Hero when everybody tasted Buhari. Libyans knew all these things before staging a revolt.

That is why I keep saying we should learn to think for ourselves. Not letting people think for us, then tell us what to think...No...

Libyans hated Gaddafi for no reason..they wanted his head chopped off..U.S and NATO assisted them to achieve their dreams..but now reality don set..Everybody dey blame the US...

Leaving Libyans who are the most stupid of all.

necz:
Well said.

Their stupidity is paying them the poverty dividend now

And as you've correctly stated. We need to look after ourselves because the US will only come to steal and destroy whenever they see the opportunity.

That's it. If you chose not to use your brain. Someone else would help you use it to his or her advantage.

Visasolution048:


That is the point boss...That is the point. Gej became Hero when everybody tasted Buhari. Libyans knew all these things before staging a revolt.

That is why I keep saying we should learn to think for ourselves. Not letting people think for us, then tell us what to think...No...

Libyans hated Gaddafi for no reason..they wanted his head chopped off..U.S and NATO assisted them to achieve their dreams..but now reality don set..Everybody dey blame the US...

Leaving Libyans who are the most stupid of all.

Hero to some. You can not speak for the rest of Nigeria, at least not me.

plaindealer:



Hero to some. You can not speak for the rest of Nigeria, at least not me.

Did I call your name ?? Boss abeg rest.....

Visasolution048:


Did I call your name ?? Boss abeg rest.....

You actually did because you said everybody. Next time, just say some.

plaindealer:


You did because you said, everybody. Next time, just say some.

You don't necessarily have to exclude yourself. I made a generic statement...

necz:
Well said.

Their stupidity is paying them the poverty dividend now

And as you've correctly stated. We need to look after ourselves because US will only come to steal and destroy whenever they see the opportunity.

Sent you a PM
Mail is Adedayo1900@yahoo.com
Need some Info..