BigBellyBurst:

Uniport?

Nah....


A government Polytechnic

mccloud224:


Perhaps...

I was there from the late '90s till 2003. Dunno how the coal city is now but back then? Hmmmm....

Enugu don calm for cult matter. Non of them dare now. It's been issued out that the lords of cults be arrested whenever war starts. Examples have been made and since then there thave been peace.

saynotocultism:
A guy whose leg was amputated and died was on this thread and threatened me via PMs. I traced him and found out he was nothing and so i left him with a message with his details and i preached to him about the dangers of cultism. Today he is no more. @cultistupdate made a post about his death.

Please saynotocultism . There is more to life.

I also want to share this message to all JUs in the house. Please stay away from cultist. Dont do business with known cultist. Dont have any dealings with them be it financial or social gatherings. This is how they now kill Jus.

Cultist: That man na Ju abi? na him make am dey show himself. We do threat him Bleep up if HIT dey.


If there is a cult war in town, maybe aiye vs vikings and you have a problem with an axxe man. All he has to do is label you a vikings and that will be your end.

Happy New Month.

Thanks for the enlightenment Sir �

Ignatio:


Enugu don calm for cult matter. Non of them dare now. It's been issued out that the lords of cults be arrested whenever war starts. Examples have been made and since then there thave been peace.

I've always been pondering on the solution to cult killings, I think this is the final solution to it

TRIUMPHANT1939:


I've always been pondering on the solution to cult killings, I think this is the final solution to it

Yes it makes plenty of sense. Get the number and personal details of all the officials as each tenure elapses. Once any trouble start you know who to hold accountable.

I am sure all of them will be happy because nobody likes to be running helter skelter all the time over something that you do not even know about.

SamgoldBaba:


He is as real as we are

Prove it.

There never was a person who walked this Earth called Jesus Christ.

I'm guessing you don't know that the character isn't real and as such, I'm asking you to provide us with the proof of this fictional character of yours.

The logic here is for you to free yourself from the artificial hold these foreign extremist ideologically based rhetoric have on you. Noone else can free you, but you.

Give it a go, since you clearly insist that your fictional character is real as you, then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove it.

Go!

SamgoldBaba:

He is as real as we are

The Jesus character is fictional.

Assuming you have any proof to the contrary, provide them here and cease arguing pointlessly.

BigBellyBurst:

Uniport?

Uniport with a few Vikings?!!!

My belle o

Passionate888:
Uniport with a few Vikings?!!!

My belle o

No mind me bro

Passionate888:
Uniport with a few Vikings?!!!

My belle o

Amujale:


Prove it.

There never was a person who walked this Earth called Jesus Christ.

I'm guessing you don't know that the character isn't real and as such, I'm asking you to provide us with the proof of this fictional character of yours.

The logic here is for you to free yourself from the artificial hold these foreign extremist ideologically based rhetoric have on you. Noone else can free you, but you.

Give it a go, since you clearly insist that your fictional character is real as you, then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove it.

Go!

Bros, good afternoon o. How's the family?

You for try use Google make you check out wetyn history get to say about the existence of 'Jesus Christ'. Whilst there are varying arguments as to whether he is/was the son of God, there are so many undeniable facts that suggests that he actually did exist, on earth, at some point.

Another fellow gunned down this evening at Ekete watcher side junction in udu LGA warri delta state .
Looks cult related because he was the only target . News reaching us stated he was a G boy so it could be a case of sharing formula gone bad . Either way he has died like the rest that have been killed in udu LGA .

Any Lnr in the house

iyke2ken:

...try use Google make you check out wetyn history get to say about the existence of 'Jesus Christ'. Whilst there are varying arguments as to whether he is/was the son of God, there are so many undeniable facts that suggests that he actually did exist, on earth, at some point.

Thank you for chiming in to the discussion here, I detect that this was a genuine response from you eventhough much of it amounts to the same malicious rhetoric that us are asking anyone of you peddlers of these foreign extremist ideologies to provide here for starters.

Kindly pay attention to the pace of the discussions here, we've gone past that part already, perhaps you're still jiving in first gear, the ship has sailed on the false claims you continue to perpetuate, the point at right now is the point whereby anyone responding to us regarding the fictional characters from within these foreign extremist ideologies ought to be prepared to provide us with genuine proof, I simply don't want to be reading "She said", "He said"; "Dem say for the most popular search engine the world has ever seen, say ...".

Anyone responding to these type of matters really ought to be aware that assuming they aren't answering to the specific questioning here, they can only be seen as trolling.

iyke2ken:



..there are so many undeniable facts that suggests that he actually did exist, on earth, at some point.

All that rhetoric doesn't really amount to much, as a matter of fact, its malicious.

Now, kindly tell us when you're going to begin stating these so-called facts of yours, actually don't tell us when you're going to begin providing us the proof we've been asking of you these peddlers of fakery and falsehood, go on and just begin with the stating these so-called facts of yours.

Your false statements can only be seen as "delusion of the highest order", noone is asking you guys for rhetoric, it's as though when us bring up these important questions, you these peddlers of fakery and falsehood are in competition on how larger of a tangent could you veer from reality.

Goes to show how much of a diabolic spell exposure to these foreign extremist ideologies really have caused to some of the lovely, yet, innocent people on our continent; when in the face of reality, some of us continue to express these kind of delusions.

It's one thing to believe in false narratives, that can be said to be on such individual, however, it's an although different thing to be peddling malicious constructs aimed at trapping your own soul and that of your immediate surroundings in a bubble thar doesn't really exist.


My advice is for you to stop peddling these malicious rhetoric, take into consideration the fact that you're unable to provide what is being asked of you, (assuming you have any such proof, there'd be no need to be asking the same question repeatedly at every juncture), and accept that the things that are being said as the facts that they are, does your own further research and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint of our world.

Amujale:


All that rhetoric doesn't really amount to much, as a matter of fact, its malicious.

Now, kindly tell us when you're going to begin stating these so-called facts of yours, actually don't tell us when you're going to begin providing us the proof we've been asking of you these peddlers of fakery and falsehood, go on and just begin with the stating these so-called facts of yours.

Your false statements can only be seen as "delusion of the highest order", noone is asking you guys for rhetoric, it's as though when us bring up these important questions, you these peddlers of fakery and falsehood are in competition on how larger of a tangent could you veer from reality.

Goes to show how much of a diabolic spell exposure to these foreign extremist ideologies really have caused to some of the lovely, yet, innocent people on our continent; when in the face of reality, some of us continue to express these kind of delusions.

It's one thing to believe in false narratives, that can be said to be on such individual, however, it's an although different thing to be peddling malicious constructs aimed at trapping your own soul and that of your immediate surroundings in a bubble thar doesn't really exist.


My advice is for you to stop peddling these malicious rhetoric, take into consideration the fact that you're unable to provide what is being asked of you, (assuming you have any such proof, there'd be no need to be asking the same question repeatedly at every juncture), and accept that the things that are being said as the facts that they are, does your own further research and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint of the world.

Good afternoon, sir.

Firstly, let me state categorically that whilst you an I can argue about the existential nature of 'the christ', our knowledge about the subject is largely limited to what we've read, heard etc and not necessarily what we have seen for ourselves. Put in other words, me and you nor dey there that time.

Having stated the obvious, also let you know that I am not a Christian, Muslim, atheist, guru Maharaji or any of such. I no just send anybody papa.

However, and for the sake of our argument, I will like to draw your attention to Flavius Josephus, who wrote on the history of Judaism around AD93. In his work, Jewish Antiquities, he referenced the existence of Jesus when he says "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus (The Annals) we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37).

Although there isn't much, in terms of archaelogy, to prove that Jesus Christ lived, there are other proofs. Hell, it will even be difficult to prove that you and I exist 100 years after we both die. Archeologists would buttress this point by telling you that 99.999% of the people that's lived cannot even verified. So, there you go.

However, I would like for you to note that I have intentionally highlighted the above, and downplayed the evidences contained in the 'Holy Bible', because obviously its testimonies would be thrown out by you, because it is regarded as the Christian book.

Like I said - and is my argument - there are reports that Jesus did live and die, but that he is the 'son of God' that one I nor know.

iyke2ken:


Like I said - and is my argument - there are reports that Jesus did live and die, but that he is the 'son of God' that one I nor know.

I wonder how you have the time to reply to someone who asked you to discard results of a research but provide 'evidence'. What evidence is he looking for outside documented historical events. Does he want you to perform a miracle or what?

^ Top notch derailing at its finest

Strong men them na dem Dey reign

wfjimmytobby:
Strong men them na dem Dey reign

I thought they created this thread to expose cultism. What's this ?

iyke2ken:


Firstly, let me state categorically that whilst you an I can argue about the existential nature of 'the christ', our knowledge about the subject is largely limited to what we've read, heard etc and not necessarily what we have seen for ourselves. Put in other words, me and you nor dey there that time.

Having stated the obvious, also let you know that I am not a Christian, Muslim, atheist, guru Maharaji or any of such. I no just send anybody papa.

However, and for the sake of our argument, I will like to draw your attention to Flavius Josephus, who wrote on the history of Judaism around AD93. In his work, Jewish Antiquities, he referenced the existence of Jesus when he says "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus (The Annals) we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37).

Although there isn't much, in terms of archaelogy, to prove that Jesus Christ lived, there are other proofs. Hell, it will even be difficult to prove that you and I exist 100 years after we both die. Archeologists would buttress this point by telling you that 99.999% of the people that's lived cannot even verified. So, there you go.

Wake yourself up when you cannot find any evidence of a person called Jesus in any parts of the so-called Annals.

How about taking what was said into consideration.

You choose to deceive yourself.

And according to your warped and baseless argument, you are attempting to argue your angle in support of your fictional character by citing to problematic piece of writings.


Perhaps you ought to examine the facts, they're right there.

The material you're claiming as your evidence is not only insignificant, scraps, the information in Tacitus writings doesn't mention the name Jesus anywhere in the content.

Furthermore, latest information has rendered the Tacitus Annals as being tampered with, a forgery.

When a thorough perusal of the script was performed, the experts in writing analysis found irregularities in the writing patterns, so much that they conclude that it's a forgery.

The irony is that, apart from the fact that if one was to take the words of that material for it's worth (eventhough there's undisputable evidence that has allowed it to become inadmissible due to the works of Poggio Bracciolini - da Strada Boccaccio, was said to make use of the Annals in the writing of his own books before Poggio was even born.), there were characters of that time period that answered to the title Chrustus
i.e Serapis.


More importantly, where the irregularities was found is in the actual insertions of the term Chrustus and Chresteans as explained by the writing analyst.

They stated that out of the entire piece of writing, the only parts whereby the grammatical pattern is alien to the rest of the content is at those insertions of "Chrustus" and Chrestrean.


source:

•Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged In The XVth Century authored by John Wilson Ross.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/9098/pg9098.html


As for the Josephus writings, he's credited as the writer who invented the Jesus storyline; that obviously discounts that particular writer.

You're argument is flawed.

There are no historians of the first century from whom wrote about this fictional character, and there was meant to be hundreds of them in Rome and Greece at that time period.

Yet, you are presenting two problematic piece of writing as your argument.

It doesn't add up, and you know that on your own accord.

The mathematics doesn't math, out of hundreds of historians from the first century up to the 4th century, there's only one historian that you can come up with?

And to add to that, the material is unreliable.

Cannot you see the absurdity of your argument?

iyke2ken:



However, I would like for you to note that I have intentionally highlighted the above, and downplayed the evidences contained in the 'Holy Bible', because obviously its testimonies would be thrown out by you, because it is regarded as the Christian book.

Downplayed?

The Christian bible is fake, false and counterintuitive. No serious minded historian takes any of those foreign extremist ideologically based narratives of any historical value.

As in the Christian bible isn't a history textbook, my advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and go and pick up proper history books.

iyke2ken:

... and is my argument - there are reports that Jesus did...

The Jesus character is fictional.

Reports my foot, there arent any genuine reports of any such character due to the forementioned reason.

You have failed to provide any proof for this fictional character of yours and as such, my advice is for you to cease peddling these malicious rhetoric and instead focus your concentration on reality.

And the reality here is that our history comprises of agriculture, arts, architecture, astrology, astronomy, commerce, economics, engineering, fishing, law, mathematics, medical sciences, metallurgy, min
ing, philosophy, physical sciences, shipbuilding, e.t.c

These are the things we ought to return to studying conscientiously.

kelechiodo:

I wonder how you have the time to reply to someone who asked you to discard results of a research but provide 'evidence'. What evidence is he looking for outside documented historical events.

The Jesus character is fictitious, the story is based on a combination of fakery and falsehood.

Again, assuming you have any proof to the contrary, kindly provide them here and cease arguing pointlessly.

kelechiodo:

I wonder how you have the time to reply to someone who asked you to discard results of a research but provide 'evidence'.

Research?

What research?

Instead of telling him to accept common sense into his vicera you instead are encouraging him in pretending to not know what the question.

Shall I remind you?

Stop peddling foreign extremist ideologically based narratives as they are counterintuitive, counterproductive and malicious.

Stop standing up for foreign extremist ideologies and instead divert that same energy into making our world a better place for ourselves and our leaders of tomorrow.

Amujale:


Research?

What research?

Instead of telling him to accept common sense into his vicera you instead are encouraging him in pretending to not know what the question.

Shall I remind you?

Stop peddling foreign extremist ideologically based narratives as they are counterintuitive, counterproductive and malicious.

Stop standing up for foreign extremist ideologies and instead divert that same energy into making our world a better place for ourselves and our leaders of tomorrow.

You chose to believe "Jesus" never existed and its perfectly fine...

So why and how does my belief that he existed and is the saviour now an issue to you??

You go on and on trying to disprove his existence, and its perfectly fine..

So why and how does my trying to prove his existence become an issue for you??

Can you guys either go to church or express road to argue about your personal beliefs?

This thread is just something else. I have discovered that two particular settings (very related in almost everything thing about them) always find a way to derail this thread.

Shey una no Sabi road to church ni?

Better yet, host a Twitter space and rant all you want, for goodness sake, you lot should be matured enough to know that this thread is not for religious arguments and rhetoric.

finalboss:

I thought they created this thread to expose cultism. What's this ?

see just leave that guy

Na so him dey do

jasonex4:


You chose to believe "Jesus" never existed and its perfectly fine...

The actual facts are that the Jesus character is a fictional one, it's you rather, who in the face of these actual facts, continue to choose to "believe" in the falsehood of foreign extremist ideologues.

jasonex4:

So why and how does my belief that he existed and is the saviour now an issue to you??

For me, anyone can choose to believe in whatever they fancy, the heck, there are people out there that believe in a giant floating spaghetti monster, they even have a church and all that, that's on whoever is down with similar falsehoods, my thing is that, such persons will however be put in check and given a thorough dressed down when attempting to peddle their malicious foreign extremist ideologies.

Believe in whatever malicious falsehood you so choose, however, allow such counterintuitive and counterproductive ideologies to remain in your medula oblongata where it will be of no harm to anyone else.

Spout these falsehoods on the Internet, and be prepared to provide us with genuine proof or simply receive sense into your viscera and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint.