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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by bluefilm: 11:03am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
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Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

Wait a minute... so you mean Tinubu is a kind of a Mysterious Ghost?

Wonders shall never end.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Praktikals(m): 11:04am On Apr 15, 2022
Donshegxy10:
Firstly about age and background, there was no argument in 93,99 and 2003 when tinubu won elections in lagos, why now?
His he a yoruba man, a nigerian? If yes then where he came from doesnt matter.

Educational qualifications, requirement for presidency is a primary school leaving certificate, this is a man that has a university degree, his degree with an outstanding hons award was verified from chicago, this is someone that went to become an executive in over 3 international organisations, you cant dispute his qualifications.

About deputy, leave it to tinubu, he will find a well accepted northern christian, for example dogara is a christian and he rose up to become the number 4 man in nigeria in the midst of muslims.

Baggages.......
Show me 1 politician among the top aspirant without a baggage.

In 2019, when wike who was in charge of pdp wanted tambuwal and atiku brought money, why didnt they vote tambuwal instead.

Politics is about structure, aliances and money.

No nigerian politician as of today has helped, impacted and elevate people the way tinubu has done.

On ambode.......
If you are intune with lagos politics you will understand that ambode outsting was not tinubu's doing, it was the work of mandate group, who has the highest number of apc membership in lagos then, it was led by aregbesola and cardinal odunbaku.
Ambode stepped on many toes.

Does osinbajo has a structure to win apc primary, or does he has the money to spend.

Osinbajo is a featherweight politically, masses may like him but the delegate that will vote at the primaries knows only JAGABAN.

Tinubu is a strategist and a winner, i just hope some of you people will show your face after the primaries when osinbajo is humbled like ambode.

Its just a matter of weeks, let us be patient.
Brilliant points you put up there, but it is an open secret that Buhari is not favourably disposed towards a Tinubu presidency.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Toks2008(m): 11:04am On Apr 15, 2022
MrTed:
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What does that tell you?
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Austynseyi001: 11:06am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!


Humm I believe you...but waiting to see how dirty PYO can get in this game���
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by AKAyomide(m): 11:07am On Apr 15, 2022
You just seat in the comfort of your house and draft all this stuffs out. Presidential primary election has something to do with popular contests in which determine the political party success at the any electoral elections. The fact is that Tinubu has wide participations structure in the country which is a great defined for him but the party have to think about to retain power at all cost. Amachi and Tinubu has what it takes due to thier past achievement. The power of incumbency doesn't collect in this kind of contest but just for Osibanjo to test his popularity. All I see is the victory for either Amachi or Tinubu.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Toks2008(m): 11:07am On Apr 15, 2022
Donshegxy10:
Firstly about age and background, there was no argument in 93,99 and 2003 when tinubu won elections in lagos, why now?
His he a yoruba man, a nigerian? If yes then where he came from doesnt matter.

Educational qualifications, requirement for presidency is a primary school leaving certificate, this is a man that has a university degree, his degree with an outstanding hons award was verified from chicago, this is someone that went to become an executive in over 3 international organisations, you cant dispute his qualifications.

About deputy, leave it to tinubu, he will find a well accepted northern christian, for example dogara is a christian and he rose up to become the number 4 man in nigeria in the midst of muslims.

Baggages.......
Show me 1 politician among the top aspirant without a baggage.

In 2019, when wike who was in charge of pdp wanted tambuwal and atiku brought money, why didnt they vote tambuwal instead.

Politics is about structure, aliances and money.

No nigerian politician as of today has helped, impacted and elevate people the way tinubu has done.

On ambode.......
If you are intune with lagos politics you will understand that ambode outsting was not tinubu's doing, it was the work of mandate group, who has the highest number of apc membership in lagos then, it was led by aregbesola and cardinal odunbaku.
Ambode stepped on many toes.

Does osinbajo has a structure to win apc primary, or does he has the money to spend.

Osinbajo is a featherweight politically, masses may like him but the delegate that will vote at the primaries knows only JAGABAN.

Tinubu is a strategist and a winner, i just hope some of you people will show your face after the primaries when osinbajo is humbled like ambode.

Its just a matter of weeks, let us be patient.

What is the point of producing a candidate that will not win a general election?

Tinubu is unsellable to Nigerians. Only an Osinbajo ticket can guarantee a win for APC.

Argue with your keyboard
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by VladimirPutiin(m): 11:08am On Apr 15, 2022
Iyadesa:
It's seems we are underating the Likes of Ameachi here

Iyaebe.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Eriokanmi: 11:09am On Apr 15, 2022
OP, you should have asked why Osinbajo codedly moved his origin and voter's revalidation centre to Ogun instead of banana Island, Lagos cheesy. What does that suggest to you? Lagos will lose to another party next year and if Osinbajo as a presidential aspirant lost in his home state, na wahala oo. I'm sure you know what the constitution stipulates on that. He sees ogun as easy win for him. People don prepare for apc for lagos next year oo. E go dey interesting.

For those suggesting that the pdp would take over lagos next year, you too might just be hallucinating. If the only thing buhari could do at the end of his tenure was ensuring
votes vount as seen in the electiral law amendment Bill, I'd give him a pass mark becauee it's only through this we can select our own leaders instead of their own leader . If you like, deploy thugs to snatch ballot boxes in their way to collation centres. The results are already computed at the polling boots and sent to the hub electrically.

Watch out people.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Massivepussydes: 11:12am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!
. nonsense post
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by VladimirPutiin(m): 11:13am On Apr 15, 2022
ucheheart:
As far as APC is concerned, Yoruba votes are divided BTW tinubu and osinbajo, so nothing for both of them. Amaechi will come out tops cos he got full backing from northwest and south south and also buhari 's anointed son. Watch out.

Since 1999 the Northwest has been a major deciding factor on who becomes President.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by tollyboy5(m): 11:16am On Apr 15, 2022
jyz200:
Interesting
But Vp Bleep up for contesting against Jagaban
Buahri is the master here. He didn't outshine buhari grin

Buhari village vote osinbajo
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by PresidentAtiku(m): 11:18am On Apr 15, 2022
Op u stole my ideas

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Tiana06(f): 11:19am On Apr 15, 2022
cktheluckyman:

Allow the Yorubas to continue deceiving themselves


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUgP6QCP-9o
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by LegacyB: 11:22am On Apr 15, 2022
Dsalvo:


He is not. Tinubu will not lose to Osinbajo regardless of the abuse of power any bloc wants to institute to make the VP the candidate of APC.

The schism that will ensue in the APC , from the Presidency trying to force Osinbajo on the democratic choice of others, will destroy the ruling Party and hand an undeserved victory to the PDP.

Tinubu will always be okay and, per the way SW is thinking and moving today, BAT will have relevance as a mentor of a Nigeria that has to be restructured along regional lines and in respect of devolution of power away from a destructively strong center.

It is not even in our hands anymore. Our structure is unsustainable per world events we do not control. Nigeria must adapt or die.

With that reality, that we cannot escape, Osinbajo will quickly go on to be another Namadi Sambo with his 15 minutes of fame, courtesy of Tinubu, over quickly.
If Tinubu were your family would you advise him to fight the Presidency? This is not Jonathan ooooo. That will be his end if he ever goes against a Buhari. They have his complete dossier.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by DeepSight(m): 11:23am On Apr 15, 2022
ComrWanle02:
The only viable point in your write up is running mate point. Others are less important.

That really stood out to me.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by haslaw(m): 11:23am On Apr 15, 2022
West1side:
Only lunatics will claim Tinubu's age cert is shrouded in secrecy. The man that as contested election since 1992 over 20 years ago but your father did not question is credentials then. Your only logical permutation is both BAT n PYO losing the election if PYO secure the APC ticket with Tibubu's concession.

PYO needs Tinubu's support to win the general election but Tinubu will win the general election no matter who PDP field once he as the APC mandate even with PYO support.




Osinbajo has no political base. He is only banking of religious sentiments to win.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Dominionkid22: 11:24am On Apr 15, 2022
Na wao Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field![/quote]
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 11:25am On Apr 15, 2022
Toks2008:


What is the point of producing a candidate that will not win a general election?

Tinubu is unsellable to Nigerians. Only an Osinbajo ticket can guarantee a win for APC.

Argue with your keyboard

its funny that the topic talks about why asiwaju will not win the primaries, i gave reasons why he will beat osinbajo hands down, now you want to start shifting the goal post.

I think you are the one arguing with your keypads.

I will still continue to reiterate that the masses will not near the congress ground, the delegates that will vote at the primary does not know osinbajo, THIS IS THE SAD TRUTH AND REALITY.

Goodluck and peace to you.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by haslaw(m): 11:27am On Apr 15, 2022
TheRareGem1:
APC should just get it right and field PYO come 2023 if the party stilll want to remain in power beyond 2023


The day APC fields Osinbajo is the day they have relegated themselves to the opposition because it would be the easiest elections for PDP.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Dominionkid22: 11:28am On Apr 15, 2022
Serious
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Tareq1105: 11:30am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

It's been said by Gov bagudu of kebbi State that the North would have problem in producing a Vice for Tinubu, being a Muslim, if he wins the primary.

November last year, gov sule of nasarawa state stated that a Christian president from the south would give APC a better image while one of the outgoing gov in the North, a Muslim, would Vice him.

Let's ask ourselves too, if Tinubu win the primary, how would the party get a vice (christian) amongst the northern governors?

Tinubu is trying to convince the northern governors that Nigerians are concerned about good governance and not Muslim Muslim ticket.

When I listened to the 2 governors last year, I knew the direction the Governors were going and I've since then take away my mind from Asiwaju.

I just hope he would stop wasting money and back Osinbajo.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by TimmyA: 11:30am On Apr 15, 2022
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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by BJanta: 11:30am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!


Doguwa is the Majority Leader of The House Of Representatives

Bola Tinubu Has Paid his dues as Far as political investment is concerned in APC

People like me and most of the members in the APC rep Caucus have taken advantage of his generosity and electoral support

He is one Nigeria whose name is synonymous to APC

We look at him as a major stakeholder in APC

Helping Tinubu Become President Is Like A Civic Responsibility To Rep Members.

Our position on Tinubu is the popular position in Nigeria

He is medically and physically fit to be the president of this country

There are some aspirants in the APC presidential race that have lost elections even in their wards
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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by softwareman(m): 11:30am On Apr 15, 2022
Gkay1:
I don't support tinubu and I don't want him to rule us
Unfortunately for you, that is not how TRUE DEMOCRACY WORKS.
You are entitled to your.cboice while am entitled to mine.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by olabisibash(m): 11:32am On Apr 15, 2022
Seriously , i believe this man will transform Nigeria positively.
I stand with him, even if he doesn't have a Bullion van��
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by grandstar(m): 11:33am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm

The only one I agree with is unaccounted baggage.

Let me add that Northern politicians will not allow a godfather rule over them. This goes for other parts of the country.

In a presidential election, Osinbajo is bound to win. The online buzz that greeted his declaration was unmatched in Nigeria's history. The party will prefer a proven winner than loser. The only reason why PMB is the president today is because they felt he was the only one capable of wrestling power from the PDP. They were right and stood behind
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 11:33am On Apr 15, 2022
Praktikals:

Brilliant points you put up there, but it is an open secret that Buhari is not favourably disposed towards a Tinubu presidency.

i agree with you.
Firstly, i personally dont think buhari will outrightly support any candidate.

Second, politics is a game of interest and money, most of the governor will not listen to buhari because they will be more interested in what they will gain in the next government, which they will feel is beyond buhari.

Third, tinubu is one of the most strategic politician in nigeria as at today, with what he has done in national politics and how he has been working underground for a long time about this project he will get it.

Fourth, structure, machinery, strategy, connection, consultations, money.
That is what it takes to win a primary.

It will be easier than it seems.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by farem: 11:34am On Apr 15, 2022
jyz200:
Interesting
But Vp Bleep up for contesting against Jagaban

Which master?
In law?
In Academics?
Political position - An ex governor vs the incumbent VP?

Abeg go Siddon

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by TimmyA: 11:34am On Apr 15, 2022
Your submission is the political equation that tinubu supporter can't understand
Tareq1105:


It's been said by Gov bagudu of kebbi State that the North would have problem in producing a Vice for Tinubu, being a Muslim, if he wins the primary.

November last year, gov sule of nasarawa state stated that a Christian president from the south would give APC a better image while one of the outgoing gov in the North, a Muslim, would Vice him.

Let's ask ourselves too, if Tinubu win the primary, how would the party get a vice (christian) amongst the northern governors?

Tinubu is trying to convince the northern governors that Nigerians are concerned about good governance and not Muslim Muslim ticket.

When I listened to the 2 governors last year, I knew the direction the Governors were going and I've since then take away my mind from Asiwaju.

I just hope he would stop wasting money and back Osinbajo.

Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by ultimateprof: 11:35am On Apr 15, 2022
Mark my word, one of them is going to win.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by yusluvad(m): 11:37am On Apr 15, 2022
Dsalvo:


Amaechi is not in consideration. Forget his 'smoke screen' challenge. APC candidate will 100% be from the SW.

Yes 100%

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