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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by TimmyA: 11:38am On Apr 15, 2022
All your points is what Atiku thought he have, but Obasanjo carry am handicap, and Yaradua got the mandate
Donshegxy10:


i agree with you.
Firstly, i personally dont think buhari will outrightly support any candidate.

Second, politics is a game of interest and money, most of the governor will not listen to buhari because they will be more interested in what they will gain in the next government, which they will feel is beyond buhari.

Third, tinubu is one of the most strategic politician in nigeria as at today, with what he has done in national politics and how he has been working underground for a long time about this project he will get it.

Fourth, structure, machinery, strategy, connection, consultations, money.
That is what it takes to win a primary.

It will be easier than it seems.

Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by farem: 11:38am On Apr 15, 2022
Ijaya123:


Tell that to the former DSS director.

You dey mind these emergency, ignorant and immature political analysts
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by sokera: 11:44am On Apr 15, 2022
Help2020:

He supported the candidature of Osinbajo,yet you brought in tribe,is it wrong for an IBO man to support osibanjo a Yoruba man? What is wrong with you?
you guys are jobless and hypocrites… you are out there to support anything or anyone against Tinubu…that is why Igbos don’t know how to play politics … For your information whatever is making you scared of Tinubu is the same thing you will find in Osibanjo… Tinubu, Fashola and Osibanjo are same political ideology … if you are scared Tinubu will show a lot of love to yoruba ppl if he becomes president then know today that Osibanjo will show more love than Tinubu… whichever way is a win for the south-west … whoever win the APC primary election btw Tinubu or Osibanjo will get 100 percent votes from the Yoruba people … so it’s better you face your PDP and Peter Obi now … because what will jam PDP will be their final burial

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Burruchaga71(m): 11:44am On Apr 15, 2022
Good analysis but none of them can govern the great Igbos. Just know this and know peace.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by victorsola: 11:44am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!
. Beautiful nonsense. Like this writer understands the polical process of nigeria. Voting is done before Election Day and the winner has been announced before Election Day . Currently by inec only 1.5 mil people are eligible to vote, which means no be we Dey vote all na permutations. The rigging this time will be powerful and obvious and there is nothing anybody will do about it .
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by royalamour(m): 11:45am On Apr 15, 2022
Tinubuadvocate:
A total nonsense.

But facrook perogi's malicious write up against the VP is okay?

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Nobody: 11:45am On Apr 15, 2022
UltimatedeBest:


U are completely blindfolded by what u may stand to gain if Tinubu become d President. Nigeria doesn't need him, he is very old, his time has passed, he has nothing new to offer. He should be confine to old people's home and take a chill there.

You're simply "blindfolded" by hate and nothing else. Even an Awolowo that is 120 years old will lead better than a Sowore that is 35.

The problem of most Nigerians is that you naively and simplistically take your examples from abroad, and other climes, most of you have never set foot in.

To that extent, you are not realistic or even cognisant of what is possible and what is impossible in your own nation.

Local problems need local solutions. You cannot ask of your democracy wjat is 50 years in her future merely because you see that in place in thr USA and UK today. Hiw many average Nigerians are like Britons and Americans in civic sophistication?

You people will never understand that. Dambazau, as COAS, was blatantly undermining and disobeying Jonathan because he viewed GEJ as an undeserving accident in Aso Rock and not a meritorious 'owner of Nigeria' leader he must respect like Buhari, Danjuma, Abiola, Tinubu, Atiku, IBB.

Even ordinary Nigerians prove my point with how they will give Atiku 11 million votes while they support Sowore and Moghalu with 30k votes.

The peculiarities of Nigeria makes Tinubu best for Aso Rock. He is a proper 'owner of Nigeria' politician everyone will respect to include those who do not like him.

He then happens to command massive respect in Africa and internationally that will make him a President the international community will cooperate with instantly.

USA, for example, vacillates between helping or ignoring us over our security challenges because of what they know about whoever is in charge of Nigeria and their peculiar compromise.

It won't be so for Tinubu who is seen universally as a sincere and proven solutions provider.

Finally, no politicans does brilliant and progressive delegation more than Tinubu. Leadership is not Rocket Science but Nigerian Presidents make it appear so because they come into office with vested interests that means they dont deploy round pegs in round holes.

Whatever is going on with BAT, no one can accuse him of reluctance to deploy young and proven technocrats towards effective service provision. Fashola, Ambode and Sanwo-Olu were all young leaders when they became governor of Lagos.

In fact this is why Lagos is head and shoulder above every State in Nigeria today. Tinubu looks for achievers, who will deliver solutions, above everything else.

Tinubu is the only candidate who can begin delivering solutions from his first day in Aso Rock because he is seen as meritorious of the office by even his worst enemies, like Bode George, whereas almost every other candidate will undergo an 'apprenticeship' period Nigeria cannot afford.

Some, like Sowore, will simply not get cooperation from anyone if, by some miracle, he makes it to Aso Rock. We don't need a lame duck President. Armed forces chief will ignore and our NSA will undermine.


There is so much more that makes Tinubu the best candidate by mile but you will only see it if you are a pragmatically intelligent person who knows his own nation, and how it works, very well plus understands that "when in Rome you must behave like a Roman" .

For example, some of you people cannot be serious looking for one President who is not corrupt in a nation of 210 million people who breathe and live corruption in every facet of their private lives.

You have probably engaged in a corrupt act today yet you naively think Jesus Christ in Aso Rock will change the orientation of all Nigerians overnight.

Whereas if your are a pragmatic and critical thinker, focused on solutions, you will know that, for now, Nigeria should look for the man who, fcked up as our system is, has proven he can get results that makes every constituency he handles, i.e Lagos to ACN and APC, exemplary and superior successes.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Gozac: 11:46am On Apr 15, 2022
Iyadesa:
It's seems we are underating the Likes of Ameachi here
Don't mind the tribal bigots, Amaechi will carry the day.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by gaskiyamagana: 11:46am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

Head
Department Of Foolstatistic
Osinbajo University of Political Desperado.
Redeem Church
Nig.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 11:47am On Apr 15, 2022
Fiscus105:



Let me comment on most confused u analysis.
Ask urself, how fashola, ambode, sanwo-olu and yaradua won election despite contesting with those who were very stroger than them, both in pry and general election.

I deliberately picked several characters from Lagos which I biliv u re familiar with very well, if you do justice to urself , you will know how Osinbanjo will convincely defeat Tinubu.

let me educate you a little sir.

Those you mentioned won on the structure and machinery of others.

Fashola, ambode and sanwo olu won on tinubu's structure.

You should ask yourself why a little known sanwo olu was able to disgraced a sitting governor, it is simple, the governor had an elective power without a working structure.

Yaradua won on obasanjo structure.

On which structure will osinbajo stand, mind you buhari has no structure but he is well respected as a president and a elder stateman.

I dont think buhari will support anyone, i also dont think the governors will obey buhari on who to follow because they will be looking for for their own personal interest as well.

Lastly osinbajo has been in office for over 7 years, how many politicians has he help into position, just mention 1 from each zone.

The senate, reps and majority of the governor are with tinubu.

The majority leader of the senate said and i quote "most of us are here because of the support of asiwaju, this is the time to pay him back, and many of the senate members are here to support him".
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Mrbenny001: 11:50am On Apr 15, 2022
Anieke77:
Osinbanjo doesn't have the balls(manpower)
National Apc is not Lagos Apc oga...If the presidency and national party leader are behind Osibanjo... Then he defeat Baba Tinubu na
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by LillyandDaisy: 11:50am On Apr 15, 2022
Dsalvo:


He is not. Tinubu will not lose to Osinbajo regardless of the abuse of power any bloc wants to institute to make the VP the candidate of APC.

The schism that will ensue in the APC , from the Presidency trying to force Osinbajo on the democratic choice of others, will destroy the ruling Party and hand an undeserved victory to the PDP.

Tinubu will always be okay and, per the way SW is thinking and moving today, BAT will have relevance as a mentor of a Nigeria that has to be restructured along regional lines and in respect of devolution of power away from a destructively strong center.

It is not even in our hands anymore. Our structure is unsustainable per world events we do not control. Nigeria must adapt or die.

With that reality, that we cannot escape, Osinbajo will quickly go on to be another Namadi Sambo with his 15 minutes of fame, courtesy of Tinubu, over quickly.
Bola should have play a huge role of elder state man by not contesting at all… I like him but I hate greediness

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 11:51am On Apr 15, 2022
[quote author=RexTramadol1 post=111965939][/quote]
politician will say anything to get sympathy, ask from those who know.
I know baba eto very well, this are those that make the decisions.
What i said is from a place of authority.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Gozac: 11:51am On Apr 15, 2022
cktheluckyman:
Both of them will lose to Amaechi
Amaechi is the most qualified among all of them and will win them at the primaries by the grace of God

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by gaskiyamagana: 11:53am On Apr 15, 2022
Toks2008:


What is the point of producing a candidate that will not win a general election?

Tinubu is unsellable to Nigerians. Only an Osinbajo ticket can guarantee a win for APC.

Argue with your keyboard
Vote for
All
Pathetic
Candidates
God forbid. Na PDP all the way .
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Tareq1105: 11:53am On Apr 15, 2022
haslaw:



Osinbajo has no political base. He is only banking of religious sentiments to win.

I wish you know the number of people that believes in his capacity and experience to govern Nigeria.

My brother, Nigeria is in dare need of an experienced and committed leader. We don't need a fine spender or waster but a visionary leader. Oninakuna ni Tinubu.

Also, Nigeria cannot afford another sick president. Asiwaju ko wa okay. Enough of medical tourism.

Presidency is not about one man life ambition but about situations and facts on ground at that material time. It's about lives of over 200m people.

The message is clear. Governors Bagudu, El Rufai, Zulum, or Gandollar. One of them would be Vice President and they're all Muslims from the north. This is where Tinubu lost out.

They want a Christian president from the south. We've known this permutation since last year.

Tinubu should remain a kingmaker that he's to avoid imminent political fiasco that is loading.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by LillyandDaisy: 11:53am On Apr 15, 2022
joyandfaith:


PDP cannot win presidential election but it would win more states
GEJ 2011 tactics!
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 11:54am On Apr 15, 2022
livinbygrace:


Enough of all this epistle and Structure ,strategy,Sargacity,ability nonsense.
In 1999 ,Ganiyu Dawodu was more influential and respected politician in Lagos and people thought that AD governorship ticket would be given to him,but was given to TInubu (underdog) as a then .
In 2007,Odili was political heavy and many people thought he would be favorites ,but OBJ favored Jonathan.
Does Jonathan have all the above mentioned qualities for him to become president ?
Same goes to Ambode,Sanwo olu and many others?Even Amaechi never contested in Rivers election and he became governor through the court .
So it’s only a newbie or JJc that would believed Tinubu would be given the ticket ahead of Osinbajo .
The heavyweight have always been the victim”.Quote me anywhere

those you mentioned run on the structure of others.

On which structure will osinbajo run?

In few weeks we shall see.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by UncommonLogic: 11:56am On Apr 15, 2022
Zeemam:
The writer is on point
More like the writer is in meth.
Rubbish trash.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 11:57am On Apr 15, 2022
TimmyA:
All your points is what Atiku thought he have, but Obasanjo carry am handicap, and Yaradua got the mandate

if you read my point with an open mind, you will realize that i wrote that i dont believe buhari will support osinbajo, it is only buhari support that can make things difficult for tinubu.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by luizpippo(m): 11:58am On Apr 15, 2022
Bounceboune7:
A consensus can emerge for chairman n not presidency.

All u wrote up there na rubbish


Are you saying they can never settle for consensus

How did Umaru Yar'Adua emerge?
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by VoiceofDPeople: 11:58am On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

Well said!
You made everything crystal clear

Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by gaskiyamagana: 11:59am On Apr 15, 2022
Donshegxy10:
Firstly about age and background, there was no argument in 93,99 and 2003 when tinubu won elections in lagos, why now?
His he a yoruba man, a nigerian? If yes then where he came from doesnt matter.

Educational qualifications, requirement for presidency is a primary school leaving certificate, this is a man that has a university degree, his degree with an outstanding hons award was verified from chicago, this is someone that went to become an executive in over 3 international organisations, you cant dispute his qualifications.

About deputy, leave it to tinubu, he will find a well accepted northern christian, for example dogara is a christian and he rose up to become the number 4 man in nigeria in the midst of muslims.

Baggages.......
Show me 1 politician among the top aspirant without a baggage.

In 2019, when wike who was in charge of pdp wanted tambuwal and atiku brought money, why didnt they vote tambuwal instead.

Politics is about structure, aliances and money.

No nigerian politician as of today has helped, impacted and elevate people the way tinubu has done.

On ambode.......
If you are intune with lagos politics you will understand that ambode outsting was not tinubu's doing, it was the work of mandate group, who has the highest number of apc membership in lagos then, it was led by aregbesola and cardinal odunbaku.
Ambode stepped on many toes.

Does osinbajo has a structure to win apc primary, or does he has the money to spend.

Osinbajo is a featherweight politically, masses may like him but the delegate that will vote at the primaries knows only JAGABAN.

Tinubu is a strategist and a winner, i just hope some of you people will show your face after the primaries when osinbajo is humbled like ambode.

Its just a matter of weeks, let us be patient.
Thank you, my brother. I don't know how a political dropout like him will defeat the proprietor Jagaban School of Political Training.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Nobody: 12:03pm On Apr 15, 2022
LegacyB:

If Tinubu were your family would you advise him to fight the Presidency? This is not Jonathan ooooo. That will be his end if he ever goes against a Buhari. They have his complete dossier.


What dossier are you talking about? Tinubu and Buhari are APC leaders with the entire world, from USA to Ghana, knowing that Buhari, who failed three times in the past, became President because of Tinubu.

You think Nigeria, i.e the North and SW, will not be seriously balkanised and fractured, more than even the Abiola saga, with any attempt to ridicule Tinubu for trying to peacefully and legitimately excercise his democratic and constitutional mandate?

They will make BAT, to even neutral Yorubas, a bigger Martyr than Abiola for a Yoruba people very aware of what was done to MKO and Awolowo.

Especially if his persecutors are those he helped to attain successes that has escaped them for decades. What would be Tinubu's crime to be recieving punishment from those he helped achieve their lifelong ambition?

Bruv, let the Buhari camp get politically creative and defeat Tinubu legitimately. It is not Tinubu's fault APC members, who have permanent interests beyond the end of Buhari's tenure next year, want Tinubu while Buhari and a few insist otherwise.

All this 'alagbara' bullying you people are simplistically touting, to injuriously remove Tinubu, cannot happen without grave consequences for the ruling Party and perhaps even Nigeria.

You forget Nigeria today is very divided , with serious agitations of secession everywhere, and very different to when Abiola was blatantly cheated and wronged fundamentally.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by gaskiyamagana: 12:05pm On Apr 15, 2022
Spherical77:
PDP can never win presidential election. They are the weakest opposition party I've ever seen
In other words, the suffering, killing, borrowing, inflation, banditry and other indices of bad governance continue beyond 2023 with
Another
Pathetic
Comrades?

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by shekonz(m): 12:10pm On Apr 15, 2022
josite:
i have not even read your theory but of course tinubu will not get apc ticket ,osinbajo will get it.but tinubu and his supporters have a plan b to move into another party,.tinubu name will be on the ballot but tinubu will not win but his new party will become prominent.

osinbajo too may not win if a credible Christian influential yorub like tunde bakare enters the race.

tunde bakare may actually ends up being the next president.

the next president will be yoruba and a Christian.

Tunde who? Are you kidding? In Nigeria or in his LGA
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Help2020: 12:12pm On Apr 15, 2022
sokera:
you guys are jobless and hypocrites… you are out there to support anything or anyone against Tinubu…that is why Igbos don’t know how to play politics … For your information whatever is making you scared of Tinubu is the same thing you will find in Osibanjo… Tinubu, Fashola and Osibanjo are same political ideology … if you are scared Tinubu will show a lot of love to yoruba ppl if he becomes president then know today that Osibanjo will show more love than Tinubu… whichever way is a win for the south-west … whoever win the APC primary election btw Tinubu or Osibanjo will get 100 percent votes from the Yoruba people … so it’s better you face your PDP and Peter Obi now … because what will jam PDP will be their final burial
Have you asked why they don't want tinubu and want Osibanjo a Yoruba man? If not for selfishness your likes are supposed to also hate tinubu,but no,you can't reason properly. Spit on your forehead
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by ednut1(m): 12:14pm On Apr 15, 2022
Both would lose
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Gozac: 12:14pm On Apr 15, 2022
cktheluckyman:

Allow the Yorubas to continue deceiving themselves
They are tribal propagandist who believes only in Yoruba candidates neglecting other candidates at their own peril. They will be stunned after the primaries. CRA will trounce both PYO and BAT.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by simongonner: 12:15pm On Apr 15, 2022
ComrWanle02:
The only viable point in your write up is running mate point. Others are less important.
that's what have been telling my friends.. Osinbanjo have upper hand for running Mate (Northern Muslim) but Tinubu is a Muslim and northerners would not like a northern Christian as VP...Muslim Muslim won't work .
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Toks2008(m): 12:15pm On Apr 15, 2022
Donshegxy10:


its funny that the topic talks about why asiwaju will not win the primaries, i gave reasons why he will beat osinbajo hands down, now you want to start shifting the goal post.

I think you are the one arguing with your keypads.

I will still continue to reiterate that the masses will not near the congress ground, the delegates that will vote at the primary does not know osinbajo, THIS IS THE SAD TRUTH AND REALITY.

Goodluck and peace to you.

Does common sense not tell you that i agree with the possibility of him winning the primaries.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by haslaw(m): 12:16pm On Apr 15, 2022
Truthisunique2:
elrufai played it against a subjugated southern kaduna whom the northern Muslims have boxed to a point

But when it comes to Nigeria, na two halves the British Divide am into North and South

Majority Christian's Majority Muslims, at all times both these two groups have to be seen to be carried along especially the southern Christian's that fuel this country


No one told you there are more Muslims in Nigeria abi?
Travel out of your little hamlet and know about Nigeria.

Only a Muslim South can give the northerners a run for their money.

Awololowo's loss is about to be repeated with snake betrayer Osinbajo as APC flag bearer.

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