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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by adelaja70(m): 12:55pm On Apr 15, 2022
livinbygrace:


Enough of all this epistle and Structure ,strategy,Sargacity,ability nonsense.
In 1999 ,Ganiyu Dawodu was more influential and respected politician in Lagos and people thought that AD governorship ticket would be given to him,but was given to TInubu (underdog) as a then .
In 2007,Odili was political heavy and many people thought he would be favorites ,but OBJ favored Jonathan.
Does Jonathan have all the above mentioned qualities for him to become president ?
Same goes to Ambode,Sanwo olu and many others?Even Amaechi never contested in Rivers election and he became governor through the court .
So it’s only a newbie or JJc that would believed Tinubu would be given the ticket ahead of Osinbajo .
The heavyweight have always been the victim”.Quote me anywhere
Bro.. Always use your brain. GEJ was Yardua VP.. And only a fool would believe a southerner will replace another Southerner in 2003 election...
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Nobody: 12:58pm On Apr 15, 2022
LillyandDaisy:

Nice explanation, but what should we call it if not ‘greed’ why will a king maker want to become a king?


Tinubu is a very intelligent man. Situations in the past meant he had no choice but to be a kingmaker.

Before APC was formed, Tinubu realized he could not be President because of the PDP's formidable strenght, control of majority governors houses in Nigeria and superior majority in our legislative houses he simlly could not match with his ACN platform.

That is why he conceded his ACN machinery to Atiku and Ribadu in 2007 and 2011 respectively.

He knew both men could not win but understand the traction and visibility ACN would gain contesting the Preaidential election.

In 2015, Tinubu realized he must be a kingmaker for a Northerner because of the anger of the North against Jonathan's "dishonorable" usurpation of power at the expense of Yar Adua's death.

In fact Tinubu suggested the APC merger with the clear instruction that PDP would indeed rule for 60 years, as Ogbulafor bragged, unless smaller Parties united to present a formidable challenge with considerable strengths from governors and legislators.

Tinubu has been a pragmatic kingmaker, with an eye on his own ultimate ambition, rather than a leader who wishes to top out as a kingmaker alone.

It is his time. Nigerians should support him so they can witness a defining era that will be led by the finest brains our nation has to offer to push us forward as an innovation-led powerhouse black Country.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Tareq1105: 12:58pm On Apr 15, 2022
MikoB:


You are very correct! Come to think of it, how can a VP summons, the governors, Senators and the reps for a meeting, without buhari's approval? The stystem of the presidential primary coming up will be different from the chairmanship convention, the presidential will be the photocopy and repeat of 2014 primaries which brought buhari, it will look clean and clear but the power that be would have given instructions. That's my take

Tinubu is just being stubborn.

Tinubu cannot be president and he knew this but he's just lobbying to see if he can change anything.

The Northern governors want a Christian president from the south and that's the permutation that made Osinbajo to declare.

They need a Christian president so that one of the Governors would be his Vice.

Alagidi ni Tinubu. He's ignoring it bcoz he has money.

Osinbajo wouldn't spend money and you'll see what will happen.

It's not about the most popular but the most acceptable under the current circumstances.

E so fun ko rora na owo.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by adelaja70(m): 12:59pm On Apr 15, 2022
Fiscus105:



I'm very pleased for your education, and I think you are correct. Meanwhile, the same way Osinbanjo will win on the structure of Buhari.

1.It's only a blind who dnt know for now that Buhari is surporting osinbajo.

2.the same Reps and Senate that cannot say pim" during recent concluded apc elections


Tinubu camp knows that Osinbanjo is fully backed by Buhari and that's why is camp had been jiltery and more reason they are lunching more than normal rockets to the personality of Osinbanjo.

You may agree or disagree, Nigeria president is powerful to do and undo not even during Buhari reign. As it stands now, it will take devine intervention for tinubu to win.
IF APC mistakenly pick Osinbajo.. APC will lose the election.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by seunjungle1(m): 1:00pm On Apr 15, 2022
All these your theories are not genuine and no reality in it. You just woke up from your bed wrote rubbish


Integrity1992:
12 signs why Tinubu won’t get APC Presidential ticket

1. The Generals from Alani Akinrinade to TY Danjuma, IBB etc do not want Asiwaju to contest. Akinrinade & Danjuma asked him to withdraw from the race and analysed to him the danger of losing everything if he contested the primaries and lost. General Akinrinade is close to Asiwaju and does not want him to lose face post the election.

2. The Governors told him at the meeting he had with them that they would not support him. They accused him of being obsessed with power. They reminded him of how he snubbed them when they pleaded with him to support Ambode and Obaseki.

3. Afenifere leaders are totally against his presidential ambition. Olu Falae and Baba Fasoranti pointedly told him while Ayo Adebanjo has never hidden his disdain for Asiwaju's presidential ambition.

4. His health challenges are too overwhelming to be ignored. Nigerians want a healthy president who will be available to lead the country out of the woods.

5. Too many faux pas. Since announcing his intention to contest, Asiwaju's campaign has been bogged down with self-inflicted errors through wrong pronouncements from asking people to renew obsolete voter's cards to the threat of violence. People doubt his mental capacity even though he insists he has the capacity to lead.

6. Avoidable rift with NURTW. Tinubu sided with MC Oluomo against the NURTW which has a nationwide reach. Traditionally, Tinubu's camp enjoyed a good rapport with the body during elections. That base is no longer there.

7. The aspirant the stakeholders in the party is considering now a PYO . Asiwaju is not on President Buhari's radar and the President has told close associates he will never hand over power to Tinubu or Atiku because of the concern over greed and corruption. Fayemi and Amosun may also declare their intention any moment from now but once the party decides on consensus to support PYO, they will throw their weight behind him. Fayemi and Amosun's declaration will further enfeeble Asiwaju's ambition. Of course, Fayemi and Amosun would like to win but they realise that their chances may be slim.

8. The general consensus in the South West is that PYO stands a better chance to win at the general election than Asiwaju. Some even believe that Asiwaju himself knows. They therefore cannot understand why he is playing the spoiler role.

9. Almost all members of the Tinubu original power/intellectual base and allies when he was Governor are not in support of his Presidential ambition. Aregbesola, Afikuyomi, Ojudu, Onanuga, Alake, Fasola etc. Most of them may work for PYO.

10. Discerning people have compared Lagos with Dubai in 1999 when Tinubu took over as Governor and has been the power behind the throne since then. There is no basis for comparison between what Dubai has become between 1999 and now and what Lagos has become in the intervening period in spite of the enormous resources of Lagos. They pinned it down to one source: the avarice of Tinubu. They do not see how Nigeria can make the kind of progress the people want with Asiwaju's leadership style. What the country wants and needs is a selfless leader who will work for the best interest of the people.

11. Above all the nation won’t survive a Muslim - Muslim presidency. It is too dangerous to try and Tinubu is insisting on that. It was for this same reason he could not be VP to both Atiku and Buhari at different times. The non acceptance of this is not even from the Christians but from fellow Christians.
12. His greed is believed to have no comparison. Some said it could only be compared to that of Abacha. Recently he moved to an 11 million pounds house in London transferred to him by Madam Deziani in 2016 as payment for protection from the administration which they believed he brought to being. Another luxury apartment owned by the same Deziani and transferred to him has been located in New York and the government of Nigeria has filed actions to recover them.

Gorge Udom.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by lexy2014: 1:10pm On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

Both sides are throwing dirt. All these things said about Tinubu are insignificant. the question is why are youths fighting over these two guys that arent too different from each other?
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by cmikel: 1:10pm On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!






TINUBU DID NOT TRY WITH AMBODE . EVEN PRES. BUHARI ASKED AND BEGGED HIM BUT HE WAS FEELING LIKE HE OWNS NIGERIAN AND HE REFUSED TO HEAR ANYONES WORD. HE FELT LIKE HE WAS GOD OVER EVERYONE IN NIGERIA


THAT ACT WILL HUNT HIM ESPECIALLY FROM THE NORTH....














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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by livinbygrace: 1:11pm On Apr 15, 2022
deltaprincess:


The most myopic assessment I have ever read this year.

I don't understand how in your wildest imagination you cannot see the writing on the wall already. All the odds favor Tinubu. He has Lagos and Kano delegates in his pocket. He has been endorsed by the National Assembly both active and former. The House are in his armpit. He doesn't need to give anyone money to vote him, he did that last election, majority of the Hoyse of Reps from APC he sponsored....
The only person that can defeat him in the APC is Buhari, the last time I checked, he is not contesting.
The primaries will be done very quickly. Tinubu will easily be victorious.

Keep on blowing grammar,you will be surprised.I am a Yoruba man and I have been supporting him since 1992 when he contested and won the senate (Lagos west) election,but truth must be told except people that just want their own share of money from him.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by shinealight(m): 1:14pm On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

That is also what Ubah thought in Anambra State until Soludo showed him the stuff he’s made of. Osinbajo the neophyte, will not get up to half of Tinubu’s votes at the APC primaries. You can take that to the Bank!
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by InsightsGuru: 1:14pm On Apr 15, 2022
While I am not sure about the veracity of the mystery claim around his age, state of origin and education, most of what the writer stated are basic facts.

For the purpose of analysis, let's assume there are no issues with his age, education and state of origin, basic political analysis reveals he may not secure the APC ticket.

First, the president influences the choice of the flag bearer for the ruling party. Therefore, despite being the most popular candidate, BAT may not get ticket if PMB has a preferred and different candidate. Going back in time, ask Alex Ekwueme who lost out to OBJ in 1999 despite being the most popular candidate and a founding member of eminent and powerful Nigerians known as the G33 (not exactly sure of that no) that later metamorphosed into the PDP. Ask Peter Odili who was so popular and powerful having visited every state, consulted and built a winning political machine and could not be stopped even by OBJ but only by Ribadu, then EFCC boss on the nite of the primary in 2007 after Ribadu presented damning evidence of corruption in Rivers State as governor. Eventually, the late Yar'Adua was chosen instead.

So for those of you who think the ticket always goes to the most popular in the ruling party, think twice. This may be the case for an opposition party that wants to capture political power but for the ruling party, the president is a big influencer. In addition, if the Northern oligarchs or ruling cabal from the north are not comfortable with a candidate they can pressure PMB.

The decision about choosing a party flag bearer for the ruling party is a complex one. Aside from picking a candidate who can go on to win the general election, a lot of interest groups are involved in this scheme and horse trading.

The message is who PMB, the cabal (decision makers in APC) prefer will emerge, not who is the most popular.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by akint67(m): 1:15pm On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

This is a very brilliant Analysis, I enjoyed every bit of the analysis.
Nigerians let's be wise, so that we will not use all our igR to buy Adult diapers.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by stevups(m): 1:15pm On Apr 15, 2022
You have been deceived!
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Interoma(m): 1:24pm On Apr 15, 2022
buckeyemedia:
Neither is it the king of the Jungle, he will be humbled like MKO Abiola.

Don't argue with your selves again, I will solve everything for you all, but after I speak, but make sure you stick with what I decide for you all.
The man is Tinubu and Tinubu is the man, he is a real politician, northerners will preferred Muslim to Christian as a president of our nation.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Nobody: 1:30pm On Apr 15, 2022
Donshegxy10:
Firstly about age and background, there was no argument in 93,99 and 2003 when tinubu won elections in lagos, why now?
His he a yoruba man, a nigerian? If yes then where he came from doesnt matter.

Educational qualifications, requirement for presidency is a primary school leaving certificate, this is a man that has a university degree, his degree with an outstanding hons award was verified from chicago, this is someone that went to become an executive in over 3 international organisations, you cant dispute his qualifications.

About deputy, leave it to tinubu, he will find a well accepted northern christian, for example dogara is a christian and he rose up to become the number 4 man in nigeria in the midst of muslims.

Baggages.......
Show me 1 politician among the top aspirant without a baggage.

In 2019, when wike who was in charge of pdp wanted tambuwal and atiku brought money, why didnt they vote tambuwal instead.

Politics is about structure, aliances and money.

No nigerian politician as of today has helped, impacted and elevate people the way tinubu has done.

On ambode.......
If you are intune with lagos politics you will understand that ambode outsting was not tinubu's doing, it was the work of mandate group, who has the highest number of apc membership in lagos then, it was led by aregbesola and cardinal odunbaku.
Ambode stepped on many toes.

Does osinbajo has a structure to win apc primary, or does he has the money to spend.

Osinbajo is a featherweight politically, masses may like him but the delegate that will vote at the primaries knows only JAGABAN.

Tinubu is a strategist and a winner, i just hope some of you people will show your face after the primaries when osinbajo is humbled like ambode.

Its just a matter of weeks, let us be patient.

Good analysis.!

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by ekukeku(m): 1:41pm On Apr 15, 2022
Dsalvo:


Amaechi is not in consideration. Forget his 'smoke screen' challenge. APC candidate will 100% be from the SW.




Kudos
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by MartinsD12(m): 1:42pm On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!
Apc should forget it if Nigeria still exist by 2023 apc will never win any presidency again
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by generalud: 1:51pm On Apr 15, 2022
In every nonsense written and posted, there are senses to obtain from it.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Fiscus105(m): 2:00pm On Apr 15, 2022
adelaja70:

IF APC mistakenly pick Osinbajo.. APC will lose the election.

And SDP will be declared winner!

Oga stop all these hallucinations that only Tinubu can win for APC.

Infact ,where is the opposition?nthat will defeat APC, irrespective of who they put forward for election.
In normal clime, Tinubu will not even come third in the primary if not our own election that's money bag, .....I will implore you to go to market and among masses ,try to mention Tinubu and come back to tell me the statistics.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Fiscus105(m): 2:03pm On Apr 15, 2022
MikoB:


You are very correct! Come to think of it, how can a VP summons, the governors, Senators and the reps for a meeting, without buhari's approval? The stystem of the presidential primary coming up will be different from the chairmanship convention, the presidential will be the photocopy and repeat of 2014 primaries which brought buhari, it will look clean and clear but the power that be would have given instructions. That's my take


Buhari of today, weirds much more power and influence than Obj welded during his time, ...... executive, legislative , judiciary, party structure,all in his pocket, yet blind people are saying Rubbish.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Ekpoudom: 2:15pm On Apr 15, 2022
Tinubuadvocate:
A total nonsense.


The Osinbajo camp have gone out of hand and out of their minds. They have been aiming missives at Tinubu for many months, since their Chief Attacker Babafemi Ojudu aimed the first missile in very bad faith.

If someone from Tinubu’s camp dares say anything, they begin shouting that they are attacked.

I will like to see Osinbajo trounced very badly in the primaries, probably even into 3rd or 4th place behind Tinubu, so that you all will learn that politics is more than a gang-up of pastors, cabals & co against someone who has not wronged you in any way.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by wirinet(m): 2:18pm On Apr 15, 2022
Mandate2023:



U better wake up.....APC presidency is going to SW, all dis nairaland clown sef

Hw will Amaechi win d primary....less I forget u guys r expecting consensus.....funny....go and check d history of election in Nigeria...Jonathan was lucky coz of yaradua death....abiola beat northern candidates in d north, he many governors can stand with Amaechi today as we speak...dey will only give him there word which is not d reality....no one can become d president without d SW and am not saying dis coz am yoruba

Fallacy of the century. All the presidents since independence with the exception of Obasanjo in 2003, Jonathan in 2011 and Buhari 2015 and 2019 had been without the support of the South West. South West does not give block votes like the North, East and South South. If Amaechi can gather Northern, South South and South East Support, he would not need Yoruba support.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by livinbygrace: 2:21pm On Apr 15, 2022
adelaja70:

Bro.. Always use your brain. GEJ was Yardua VP.. And only a fool would believe a southerner will replace another Southerner in 2003 election...

If you truly have brain you won’t spew this nonsense.Thank you
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by sokera: 2:32pm On Apr 15, 2022
Help2020:

Have you asked why they don't want tinubu and want Osibanjo a Yoruba man? If not for selfishness your likes are supposed to also hate tinubu,but no,you can't reason properly. Spit on your forehead
that is your problem , what I know is Tinubu is Osibanjo and Osibanjo is Tinubu… you don’t know anything about politics
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by wirinet(m): 2:32pm On Apr 15, 2022
Dsalvo:


Amaechi is not in consideration. Forget his 'smoke screen' challenge. APC candidate will 100% be from the SW.

Political naivity.

But Obasanjo was in consideration in 1999, when he won the primaries against seasoned politicians like Atiku and Ekwueme and won the presidency straight from prison

Yaradua won the presidency was in consideration when he won the president from his sick bed in Germany.

Even Jonathan was not in consideration when he won the Vice president and the president two years later without any political base, even in his native Bayelsa.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Nobody: 2:42pm On Apr 15, 2022
wirinet:

Political naivity.

But Obasanjo was in consideration in 1999, when he won the primaries against seasoned politicians like Atiku and Ekwueme and won the presidency straight from prison

Yaradua won the presidency was in consideration when he won the president from his sick bed in Germany.

Even Jonathan was not in consideration when he won the Vice president and the president two years later without any political base, even in his native Bayelsa.


Oga, no be fight. Amaechi cannot get APC ticket. You're just making noise and being sentimentally childish.

This is nor 2007 and APC, by the nature of its birth and what the likes of Tinubu collapsed into it to create the Nigerian ruling Party, is not PDP.

Very different dynamics and permanent political interests at play. Ameachi can never lead the ruling Pary of the biggest black nation on Earth into a general election. Stop the stubbornness and accept that reality.

Even in his own state and SS base Amaechi is like a bastard with no mother or father to fight for him.

Northerners cannot support him either so what exactly are you arguing about? The destruction of the ruling Party of the biggest black nation on earth on the whims and caprices of a very small number of individuals?
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Help2020: 2:44pm On Apr 15, 2022
sokera:
that is your problem , what I know is Tinubu is Osibanjo and Osibanjo is Tinubu… you don’t know anything about politics
. If you like called osinbajo tinubu, we want Osinbajo,that ole can never smell Asorock. He should continue enjoying Lagos money,that Nigeria money he is eyeing is bigger than him. Tank u
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by ucheheart(m): 2:45pm On Apr 15, 2022
[quote author=Royalty83 post=111965520][/quote]

Back to sender, I never invited you to comment on my writeup.

I guess that's how you talk to your elders at home.

You people cannot just make reasonable comments or mind ur business.

Stay away from my comments, leech
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by sokera: 2:55pm On Apr 15, 2022
Help2020:
. If you like called osinbajo tinubu, we want Osinbajo,that ole can never smell Asorock. He should continue enjoying Lagos money,that Nigeria money he is eyeing is bigger than him. Tank u
yes I am in support of any of them … as long as it’s not going to Igbo land and Fulani land … thank you

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Help2020: 3:06pm On Apr 15, 2022
sokera:
yes I am in support of any of them … as long as it’s not going to Igbo land and Fulani land … thank you
guys,you need to understand that this is not about tribalism. For me,I can vote for Osinbajo, or Ameachi. But I can't vote for tinubu,orji kalu and atiku.
It's about integrity that's all. Let's be honest,tinubu couldn't have made so much money without stealing from Lagos state by proxy. Orji is a thief,he out of prison because of Nigeria bad system. Atiku has been said to by corrupt too. As it stand Osinbajo and Ameachi are the best candidate so far. Guys let's support what is good.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by MikoB: 3:29pm On Apr 15, 2022
Tareq1105:


Tinubu is just being stubborn.

Tinubu cannot be president and he knew this but he's just lobbying to see if he can change anything.

The Northern governors want a Christian president from the south and that's the permutation that made Osinbajo to declare.

They need a Christian president so that one of the Governors would be his Vice.

Alagidi ni Tinubu. He's ignoring it bcoz he has money.

Osinbajo wouldn't spend money and you'll see what will happen.

It's not about the most popular but the most acceptable under the current circumstances.

E so fun ko rora na owo.

Correct
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Gbajure(m): 3:37pm On Apr 15, 2022
Iyadesa:
It's seems we are underating the Likes of Ameachi here

Amaechi has to resign to be voted in the coming Congress. Unless a miracle happens and the court concluded the appeal process. So he is not an issue at all. Senator Omisore in ur dreams will allow any pranks?
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Gbajure(m): 3:39pm On Apr 15, 2022
wirinet:

Political naivity.

But Obasanjo was in consideration in 1999, when he won the primaries against seasoned politicians like Atiku and Ekwueme and won the presidency straight from prison

Yaradua won the presidency was in consideration when he won the president from his sick bed in Germany.

Even Jonathan was not in consideration when he won the Vice president and the president two years later without any political base, even in his native Bayelsa.

This is BAT political machine we are talking about here. He is a train in full throttle

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