NwaNimo1:
Buhari does what he likes...even convicted terrorists are pardoned by the tyrant.

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Blue3k:


So what stopping any state from handling the prosecutuons themselves? Only the gullible or the foolish thought Buhari was going to handle these issues. I just find it weird Falana is saying the more criminals should be pardoned instead telling states to handle business.

ivolt:

Can you cite what state law the ex-governors broke?

Blue3k:


Are you asking me to cite the state law? I already cited the federal law he was convicted on. I don't know taraba law but I doubt what he did was legal.

ivolt:

Assuming they have the will, no Nigerian state currently has the resources to prosecute a financial crime against a political bigwig. How would they even get the accused bank records both local and foreign?
Who would handle the investigation? Federal police?

ETHICALLYrlght:
You know where to find the law, you've found the law but it seems as though you don't understand the law.

Also, pardon has the same effect as previous conviction regarding the rule against double jeopardy. A person who is pardoned cannot be tried for the same offence he was pardoned for.

Section 175 of the Constitution on prerogative of mercy provides that: ” (1) the President may- (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions

kingsman66:
The president federal Republic of Nigeria has the fundamental right to grant presidential pardon to any state convicted criminal freedom.....

Section 175 of the Constitution on prerogative of mercy provides that: ” (1) the President may- (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions

Mooh247:
Yes the President has prerogative of mercy on all criminals under his Sovereignty

Blue3k:


Not at all read the constitution.





Facts.

kingsman66:



Please let me ask you , who is the chief custodian of this great con3?. Any law made by the "house" or red chamber without the president signature is void and empty. Learn this today my friend they president has the right to pardon any law breaker with veto power authority...... Let me stop here for now anyways happy Easter bro

The Council of State consists of the following persons:

President, who is the Chairman;
Vice-President, who is the Deputy Chairman;
All former Presidents of the Federation and all former Heads of the Government of the Federation;
All former Chief Justices of Nigeria;
President of the Senate;
Speaker of the House of Representatives;
All the Governors of the states of the Federation; and
Attorney-General of the Federation.

[The council has the following responsibilities:
1. Advise the President in the exercise of his powers with respect to the:-

National population census and compilation, publication and keeping of records and other information concerning the same;
Prerogative of mercy;
Award of national honours;
The Independent National Electoral Commission (including the appointment of members of that Commission);
The National Judicial Council (including the appointment of the members, other than ex-officio members of that Council);
The National Population Commission (including the appointment of members of that Commission); and
2. Advise the President whenever requested to do so on the maintenance of public order within the Federation or any part thereof and on such other matters as the President may direct

Blue3k:


State prosecutors do just like federal prosecutors used police evidence. I dont see the resources as an issue. The only argument I can partially agree with law aspect but that easily solved by passing a law if current one fail. All that solution does is lead to another excuse to why the federal government need to act for them.

Mynd44:

And before you quote the constitution and mention section. 175, remember some of us actually read the constitution and we can quote it, we also have a copies of it. Check the pictures below for you to know that even under the constitution, the resident can never pardon anyone by himself meaning that Jolly Nyame's pardon was done by everyone not only Buhari.

Blue3k:


You can repeat a lie all you want the constitution is the law of the land and has debunked your nonsense. You're wrong again a presidential veto overide can be done by NASS with 2/3 majority in both houses. This happened in 2000 resulting in NDDC act becoming law. This is basic civics and recent history but you'd rather worship the office of the presidency during Easter.


Try and read this piece is still in FP.

ivolt:

You are asking the state to prosecute the accuse base on laws that doesn't exist yet and using resources that is not yet available.

Also, the federal police handles investigation and prosecution for criminal case.

Any changes to state's law now will only apply to future offenders.

kingsman66:

Try and read this piece is still in FP.

Crizzycross:
I'm not sure buhari has regards for the principles of the rule of law. He does whatever he likes.

Blue3k:


Maybe he doesn't but this isn't an example. Fact is he had right to release corrupt individual. The fact he granted the theif a pardon instead of Commuting his sentence exposes him. Anyway if the state prosecuted him the governors would have to pardon him. Sadly the states aren't interested in solving their own problems like they are interested in getting more money. Even the citizens getting fleeced are giving the local & states representatives 101 excuses for failure.

Blue3k:


Maybe he doesn't but this isn't an example. Fact is he had right to release corrupt individual. The fact he granted the theif a pardon instead of Commuting his sentence exposes him. Anyway if the state prosecuted him the governors would have to pardon him. Sadly the states aren't interested in solving their own problems like they are interested in getting more money. Even the citizens getting fleeced are giving the local & states representatives 101 excuses for failure.

grandstar:
Did the president forgive based on principle or for some political or personal leverage?

His term comes to a screeching halt next year May 28, 2023. He has made many enemies who would be screaming blood. He does not strike me as a man who would fear prosecution.

However, I suspect he might be protecting his family. The wife's 50th Dubai birthday is the type of excesses and fruit of corruption he vowed to fight.

Blue3k:


Maybe he doesn't but this isn't an example. Fact is he had right to release corrupt individual. The fact he granted the theif a pardon instead of Commuting his sentence exposes him. Anyway if the state prosecuted him the governors would have to pardon him. Sadly the states aren't interested in solving their own problems like they are interested in getting more money. Even the citizens getting fleeced are giving the local & states representatives 101 excuses for failure.

Blue3k:


Maybe he doesn't but this isn't an example. Fact is he had right to release corrupt individual. The fact he granted the theif a pardon instead of Commuting his sentence exposes him. Anyway if the state prosecuted him the governors would have to pardon him. Sadly the states aren't interested in solving their own problems like they are interested in getting more money. Even the citizens getting fleeced are giving the local & states representatives 101 excuses for failure.

Blue3k:


Maybe he doesn't but this isn't an example. Fact is he had right to release corrupt individual. The fact he granted the theif a pardon instead of Commuting his sentence exposes him. Anyway if the state prosecuted him the governors would have to pardon him. Sadly the states aren't interested in solving their own problems like they are interested in getting more money. Even the citizens getting fleeced are giving the local & states representatives 101 excuses for failure.

Blue3k:
The President shouldn't have the power to pardon criminals for state level crimes. Just like the Governors shouldn't be able pardon federal criminals. Since Nigeria is federal republic powers are divided between different tiers of government with some overlap. In the case of pardons their shouldn't be since presidential pardons only apply to laws created by National Assembly.

Section 175 of the Constitution on prerogative of mercy provides that: ” (1) the President may- (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions; (b) grant to any person a respite, either for an indefinite or for a specified period, of the execution of any punishment imposed on that person for such an offence, (c) substitute a less severe form of punishment for any punishment imposed on that person for such an offence; or (d) remit the whole or any part of any punishment imposed on that person for such an offence or of any penalty or forfeiture otherwise due to the State on account of such an offence.

Buhari has recently pardoned former governor of Taraba Rev Jolly Nyame. He was convicted by the EFCC for  criminal breach of trust, misappropriation, gratification and obtaining valuable public properties without consideration. Legally Buhari is in his right pardon this criminal. That said there's nothing stopping the State government bringing fresh charges. This wouldn't be double jeaprody because its a different tier of government convicting him.

The problem with Nigerians is they want federal solutions to local issues. Why didn't the state prosecute this crook and lock him away? If the people of Taraba are offended by this pardon its not too late to prosecute him using the EFCC play book. The state should do what ever is necessary to achieve this outcome.

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