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You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Biodun556(m): 5:33pm On Apr 16, 2022
Under arm embargo and out dated military equipments, Nigeria continued to deployed thousands of soldiers to confront bokoharam with AK 47 while the terrorists were using anti air craft guns. Thousands of Nigerian soldiers were evaporated till years later when arm embargo was lifted

Russia has sophisticated fighter jets, missiles and classy military equipments but preferred to deploy thousands of troops with tanks and old fighter jet; SU 27 and helicopters without anti air craft covers. Even S 400 was not used in war with Ukraine.

Why this extreme military doctrine?

Some people believe that Russia considered that NATO might decides to join the war and other neighbors might decide to join NATO which means no need to wast expensive equipment on Ukraine when other enemies are still hiding.

US joined second world war when Germany had exhausted her military might on Europe serving as advantage for US who joined the war later. US might wants to use the same tactics against Russia using Ukraine as proxy.

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Biodun556(m): 5:36pm On Apr 16, 2022
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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Samuelnze(m): 5:45pm On Apr 16, 2022
It is a military strategy sha.
They saw ukarine armed boys as small small boys.that was why they used outdated military wares..
secondly, The classy military wares are on reserve for enemies that will come out of nowhere to launch an attack, eg the west and nato..
but for nigerian military,rusted wares are their all and all..

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by olugabbie(m): 6:18pm On Apr 16, 2022
Biodun556:
Under arm embargo and out dated military equipments, Nigeria continued to deployed thousands of soldiers to confront bokoharam with AK 47 while the terrorists were using anti air craft guns. Thousands of Nigerian soldiers were evaporated till years later when arm embargo was lifted

Russia has sophisticated fighter jets, missiles and classy military equipments but preferred to deploy thousands of troops with tanks and old fighter jet; SU 27 and helicopters without anti air craft covers. Even S 400 was not used in war with Ukraine.

Why this extreme military doctrine?

Some people believe that Russia considered that NATO might decides to join the war and other neighbors might decide to join NATO which means no need to wast expensive equipment on Ukraine when other enemies are still hiding.

US joined second world war when Germany had exhausted her military might on Europe serving as advantage for US who joined the war later. US might wants to use the same tactics against Russia using Ukraine as proxy.



This is not entirely true. Although, the Russians are using mainly old fighter jets like SU-25 & SU-27. But their ground troops are being protected by some of the best helicopters in the world the KA-52 & MI-28.

The Russian ground troops are being protected by S-300 & Pantsir defence systems.

The Russians miscalculated. The never thought Ukraine could get the enormous support she is getting from the West, more than twenty countries are sending weapon to Ukraine. This is the reason why they are finding it difficult to get result in Ukraine.

Lastly, this is a modern war. It can be very expensive. The more high tech military equipments you use, the more expensive the war will be. So Russia is wary of the cost. Also, in a modern war people die quickly. Imagine more than 10 thousand soldiers have died on the sides in less than two months.

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Biodun556(m): 6:40pm On Apr 16, 2022
olugabbie:


This is not entirely true. Although, the Russians are using mainly old fighter jets like SU-25 & SU-27. But their ground troops are being protected by some of the best helicopters in the world the KA-52 & MI-28.

The Russian ground troops are being protected by S-300 & Pantsir defence systems.

The Russians miscalculated. The never thought Ukraine could get the enormous support she is getting from the West, more than twenty countries are sending weapon to Ukraine. This is the reason why they are finding it difficult to get result in Ukraine.

Lastly, this is a modern war. It can be very expensive. The more high tech military equipments you use, the more expensive the war will be. So Russia is wary of the cost. Also, in a modern war people die quickly. Imagine more than 10 thousand soldiers have died on the sides in less than two months.



Lastly, this is a modern war. It can be very expensive. The more high tech military equipments you use, the more expensive the war will be. So Russia is wary of the cost. Also, in a modern war people die quickly. Imagine more than 10 thousand soldiers have died on the sides in less than two months.[b][/b]

Which is means for Russia to accept defeat she would rather use nuclear weapon
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by joyandfaith: 10:18pm On Apr 16, 2022
olugabbie:


This is not entirely true. Although, the Russians are using mainly old fighter jets like SU-25 & SU-27. But their ground troops are being protected by some of the best helicopters in the world the KA-52 & MI-28.

The Russian ground troops are being protected by S-300 & Pantsir defence systems.

The Russians miscalculated. The never thought Ukraine could get the enormous support she is getting from the West, more than twenty countries are sending weapon to Ukraine. This is the reason why they are finding it difficult to get result in Ukraine.

Lastly, this is a modern war. It can be very expensive. The more high tech military equipments you use, the more expensive the war will be. So Russia is wary of the cost. Also, in a modern war people die quickly. Imagine more than 10 thousand soldiers have died on the sides in less than two months.

Unbiased analysis. Brilliant!!
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by joyandfaith: 10:20pm On Apr 16, 2022
Biodun556:




Lastly, this is a modern war. It can be very expensive. The more high tech military equipments you use, the more expensive the war will be. So Russia is wary of the cost. Also, in a modern war people die quickly. Imagine more than 10 thousand soldiers have died on the sides in less than two months.[b][/b]

Which is means for Russia to accept defeat she would rather use nuclear weapon

Nuclear weapon is only way out for Russia. Modern warfare is too destructive and expensive.

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by VictorUSA(m): 10:26pm On Apr 16, 2022
What an unintelligent post is this? Just stupidly pointless.
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 1:59am On Apr 17, 2022
olugabbie:


This is not entirely true. Although, the Russians are using mainly old fighter jets like SU-25 & SU-27. But their ground troops are being protected by some of the best helicopters in the world the KA-52 & MI-28.

The Russian ground troops are being protected by S-300 & Pantsir defence systems.

The Russians miscalculated. The never thought Ukraine could get the enormous support she is getting from the West, more than twenty countries are sending weapon to Ukraine. This is the reason why they are finding it difficult to get result in Ukraine.

Lastly, this is a modern war. It can be very expensive. The more high tech military equipments you use, the more expensive the war will be. So Russia is wary of the cost. Also, in a modern war people die quickly. Imagine more than 10 thousand soldiers have died on the sides in less than two months.

@ the bolded proves Russia is fighting a coalition of more than 20 countries who are using Ukraine as a proxy. Their proxy fighters are being captured daily currently. What does that tell you? The NATO game plan using Ukraine failed woefully. Russia knew very well the US would join the war later should they expend their modern military resource on Ukraine, reason they sent just 150k of their 900k troops. 2m man reserves yet uncalled, despite Ukraine getting a boost in manpower over 500k in foreign mercenaries masking as volunteers and billions of dollars in NATO armament, they have been roundly decimated. Russia just started war properly now, that’s why zelensky is jittery about abandoning talks should mauripol fall which is now inevitable. This war was simply NATO testing the waters using Ukraine, economic pressures, media pressures and international lobby, yet they failed woefully and Russia was wise enough to send their boys brigade with old armament knowing it’s not the main war. What a shame for the 30 nation blood sucking coalition.

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 3:21am On Apr 17, 2022
The very president that barefaced lied that Ukraine has lost only 2k soldiers of over 500k while insisting Russ has lost over 20k soldiers is now recruiting child soldiers! He must really think we are all stupid. Imagine western nations that usually criticize child soldiers as a war crime now tagging it bravery.

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Biodun556(m): 8:44am On Apr 17, 2022
princeeze1:


@ the bolded proves Russia is fighting a coalition of more than 20 countries who are using Ukraine as a proxy. Their proxy fighters are being captured daily currently. What does that tell you? The NATO game plan using Ukraine failed woefully. Russia knew very well the US would join the war later should they expend their modern military resource on Ukraine, reason they sent just 150k of their 900k troops. 2m man reserves yet uncalled, despite Ukraine getting a boost in manpower over 500k in foreign mercenaries masking as volunteers and billions of dollars in NATO armament, they have been roundly decimated. Russia just started war properly now, that’s why zelensky is jittery about abandoning talks should mauripol fall which is now inevitable. This war was simply NATO testing the waters using Ukraine, economic pressures, media pressures and international lobby, yet they failed woefully and Russia was wise enough to send their boys brigade with old armament knowing it’s not the main war. What a shame for the 30 nation blood sucking coalition.

The same way they want to use Taiwan against China

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by vedaxcool(m): 11:11am On Apr 17, 2022
Correction US joined world war II because Japan preemptively attack them.

Germany made the mistake of attacking Russia which overstretched their military

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by ken6488(m): 12:01pm On Apr 17, 2022
Russia is saving for the grand finale

Russia doesn't trust USA

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Opolopoopolonio: 1:05pm On Apr 17, 2022
princeeze1:


@ the bolded proves Russia is fighting a coalition of more than 20 countries who are using Ukraine as a proxy. Their proxy fighters are being captured daily currently. What does that tell you? The NATO game plan using Ukraine failed woefully. Russia knew very well the US would join the war later should they expend their modern military resource on Ukraine, reason they sent just 150k of their 900k troops. 2m man reserves yet uncalled, despite Ukraine getting a boost in manpower over 500k in foreign mercenaries masking as volunteers and billions of dollars in NATO armament, they have been roundly decimated. Russia just started war properly now, that’s why zelensky is jittery about abandoning talks should mauripol fall which is now inevitable. This war was simply NATO testing the waters using Ukraine, economic pressures, media pressures and international lobby, yet they failed woefully and Russia was wise enough to send their boys brigade with old armament knowing it’s not the main war. What a shame for the 30 nation blood sucking coalition.


Nonsense talk!

Russia has given up on ground battles with Ukraine because of the huge cost in all ramifications.

They have now switched to cowardly aerial bombing and missile attacks. Let Ukraine get their own fighter jets and see action film.

When is their Donbass operation commencing sef grin It's taking forever. grin
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by sunboy(m): 3:33pm On Apr 17, 2022
olugabbie:


This is not entirely true. Although, the Russians are using mainly old fighter jets like SU-25 & SU-27. But their ground troops are being protected by some of the best helicopters in the world the KA-52 & MI-28.

The Russian ground troops are being protected by S-300 & Pantsir defence systems.

The Russians miscalculated. The never thought Ukraine could get the enormous support she is getting from the West, more than twenty countries are sending weapon to Ukraine. This is the reason why they are finding it difficult to get result in Ukraine.

Lastly, this is a modern war. It can be very expensive. The more high tech military equipments you use, the more expensive the war will be. So Russia is wary of the cost. Also, in a modern war people die quickly. Imagine more than 10 thousand soldiers have died on the sides in less than two months.

You nailed it!

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by sunboy(m): 3:43pm On Apr 17, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:



Nonsense talk!

Russia has given up on ground battles with Ukraine because of the huge cost in all ramifications.

They have now switched to cowardly aerial bombing and missile attacks. Let Ukraine get their own fighter jets and see action film.

When is their Donbass operation commencing def It's taking forever.

Coward in a war? “All things are fair in love and war”… heard that quote?

What fighters jet? The ones that have for the most part been decimated? Abi they are hiding them underground? Oh you mean the ones he’s been asking the West to provide ?

There’s no action in real life, there’s only death in war, and maybe money.

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Opolopoopolonio: 6:24pm On Apr 17, 2022
sunboy:


Coward in a war? “All things are fair in love and war”… heard that quote?

What fighters jet? The ones that have for the most part been decimated? Abi they are hiding them underground? Oh you mean the ones he’s been asking the West to provide ?

There’s no action in real life, there’s only death in war, and maybe money.

Shows Russia is frustrated. Bombing from the air doesn't achieve much other than wanton destruction of innocent lives, property and infrastructure.
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by sunboy(m): 8:43pm On Apr 17, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


Shows Russia is frustrated. Bombing from the air doesn't achieve much other than wanton destruction of innocent lives, property and infrastructure.

In as much as I don’t support the useless war… all things are fair in war. Got it ?

When the US use drones on Talibans do you call that coward too ?

Smh

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by sunboy(m): 8:44pm On Apr 17, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


Shows Russia is frustrated. Bombing from the air doesn't achieve much other than wanton destruction of innocent lives, property and infrastructure.

Ok
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 10:16pm On Apr 17, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


Shows Russia is frustrated. Bombing from the air doesn't achieve much other than wanton destruction of innocent lives, property and infrastructure.
So be it. Let there be wanton destruction of everything in Ukraine. Properties, infrastructure, lives etc. Ukraine asked for it, so be it.
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Opolopoopolonio: 10:29pm On Apr 17, 2022
princeeze1:

So be it. Let there be wanton destruction of everything in Ukraine. Properties, infrastructure, lives etc. Ukraine asked for it, so be it.

Frozen Russian monies will be used to rebuild Ukraine in due time.

The Russians will also suffer huge losses in the mean time even as their economy goes to waste.
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 11:50pm On Apr 17, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


Frozen Russian monies will be used to rebuild Ukraine in due time.

The Russians will also suffer huge losses in the mean time even as their economy goes to waste.
It’s now obvious I am replying someone that knows absolutely nothing about international politics. Let me enlighten you, they won’t dare! You know why? The west has far more than what they froze invested in Russia. The companies that ceased or suspended operations over 600 now and counting, who owns them? What do you think will happen to their assets both liquid and material infrastructure? Do you realize Russia froze their funds to stop them from withdrawing capital out of Russia pending when all is resolved? Do you know the collective worth of over 600 multinational companies, with many majoring in oil, gas, steel? Only Bp is estimated at $25b. We are looking at more than $1trillion. So let them try. In retrospect, do you know Obama paid back $400b to Iran in frozen funds before jcpoa was signed? You think you can just take someone’s money and spend it because they call you amelika!

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Opolopoopolonio: 11:54pm On Apr 17, 2022
princeeze1:

It’s now obvious I am replying someone that knows absolutely nothing about international politics. Let me enlighten you, they won’t dare! You know why? The west has far more than what they froze invested in Russia. The companies that ceased or suspended operations over 600 now and counting, who owns them? What do you think will happen to their assets both liquid and material infrastructure? Do you realize Russia froze their funds to stop them from withdrawing capital out of Russia pending when all is resolved? Do you know the collective worth of over 600 multinational companies, with many majoring in oil, gas, steel? Only Bp is estimated at $25b. We are looking at more than $1trillion. So let them try. In retrospect, do you know Obama paid back $400b to Iran in frozen funds before jcpoa was signed? You think you can just take someone’s money and spend it?

We shall see.

This time around Russia's money is gone for good
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 12:02am On Apr 18, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


We shall see.

This time around Russia's money is gone for good
Bro stop being emotional. There is nothing to see, I have clearly stated why they can’t, even in their dreams they won’t contemplate, they have far too much to lose. Majority, if not all of their big cooperations will declare massive loses when Russia finally orders a forfeiture of capital and assets in tit for tat. They know this, reason it was called a “temporary freeze to stop Putin from funding his war of choice” as they put it.

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Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Opolopoopolonio: 7:35am On Apr 18, 2022
princeeze1:

Bro stop being emotional. There is nothing to see, I have clearly stated why they can’t, even in their dreams they won’t contemplate, they have far too much to lose. Majority, if not all of their big cooperations will declare massive loses when Russia finally orders a forfeiture of capital and assets in tit for tat. They know this, reason it was called a “temporary freeze to stop Putin from funding his war of choice” as they put it.

Temporary can turn to permanent. Ask the Taliban. Ask Syria.

The West are rich enough to forfeit whatever investment they have in Russia.

They will make up with seized Russian assets... cool
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 11:09am On Apr 18, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


Temporary can turn to permanent. Ask the Taliban. Ask Syria.

The West are rich enough to forfeit whatever investment they have in Russia.

They will make up with seized Russian assets... cool
I have told you to stop being emotional. Okay they should go ahead and seize it na. Let their multinational cooperations lose more than $1trillion invested in Russia. So who then gained at the end from that your warped analysis. Someone seizes your #50, and you are with his #500? No matter how rich he is, it will never make logical or economic sense in anyway to him to seize yours when you hold far much more of his in your territory. Russia does not have much cooperations in the west, rather it was the west that went to Russia to invest because of their riches in resources. They invested in nearly all sectors of the economy from oil, gas, steel, commerce, consumer goods, chain stores, food, real estate, automobile etc. So it’s a lost cause. Mind you the frozen reserve is about $300b, private individual assets seized is less than $50b. In retrospect the collective value of 600 and still counting multinational cooperations is above $1trn. So they are free to go ahead and permanently seize it. Does that make you happy now?
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Opolopoopolonio: 3:26pm On Apr 18, 2022
princeeze1:

I have told you to stop being emotional. Okay they should go ahead and seize it na. Let their multinational cooperations lose more than $1trillion invested in Russia. So who then gained at the end from that your warped analysis. Someone seizes your #50, and you are with his #500? No matter how rich he is, it will never make logical or economic sense in anyway to him to seize yours when you hold far much more of his in your territory. Russia does not have much cooperations in the west, rather it was the west that went to Russia to invest because of their riches in resources. They invested in nearly all sectors of the economy from oil, gas, steel, commerce, consumer goods, chain stores, food, real estate, automobile etc. So it’s a lost cause. Mind you the frozen reserve is about $300b, private individual assets seized is less than $50b. In retrospect the collective value of 600 and still counting multinational cooperations is above $1trn. So they are free to go ahead and permanently seize it. Does that make you happy now?

Seems like princeeze1 is smarter than the whole of US, UK, EU and other countries that have frozen Russia's assets indefinitely.

Fantastic!
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 3:42pm On Apr 18, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


Seems like princeeze1 is smarter than the whole of US, UK, EU and other countries that have frozen Russia's assets indefinitely.

Fantastic!
You can’t be helped since English and comprehension is a problem. There is a difference between freeze and forfeiture. Freeze is subject to unfreeze, forfeiture is permanent. What they have done is freeze it to starve the regime cash to finance the war. I have also given you reason why they cannot be permanently forfeited. No western nation has been bold to claim that the reserves will be permanently forfeited because the loss to them would be monumental. What is so difficult for you to comprehend in this? You clearly lack superior argument, so just rest. Mind you, I don’t reply you because you wrote intelligently, I comment most times to keep people who read on the forum properly informed.
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Opolopoopolonio: 3:53pm On Apr 18, 2022
princeeze1:

You can’t be helped since English and comprehension is a problem. There is a difference between freeze and forfeiture. Freeze is subject to unfreeze, forfeiture is permanent. What they have done is freeze it to starve the regime cash to finance the war. I have also given you reason why they cannot be permanently forfeited. No western nation has been bold to claim that the reserves will be permanently forfeited because the loss to them would be monumental. What is so difficult for you to comprehend in this? You clearly lack superior argument, so just rest. Mind you, I don’t reply you because you wrote intelligently, I comment most times to keep people who read on the forum properly informed.

One step at a time.

Freeze first then confiscate with time. It depends on how things turn out in the short or long run.

Russia will NEVER be able to meet the conditions for its frozen assets not to be permanently confiscated.

And let me now clarify your doubts as regards western interests in Russia - they have been abandoned!!! Go and do your research!!!
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 4:19pm On Apr 18, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


One step at a time.

Freeze first then confiscate with time. It depends on how things turn out in the short or long run.

Russia will NEVER be able to meet the conditions for its frozen assets not to be permanently confiscated.

And let me now clarify your doubts as regards western interests in Russia - they have been abandoned!!! Go and do your research!!!
Emotional rant, you think they reason like you. Well! So be it. Let them take the $300b and leave their assets that is worth more than 5 times it’s value. It is a good bargain! But unfortunately, that’s not how it’s gonna play out because most of the multinational coys have clearly stated that their actions are temporary and they intend to return after the conflict. And let me bust your bubble, these coys are all still paying their staffs and meeting their contractual obligations and leases despite suspending operations, this was the reason Russia backtracked from nationalizing them.

Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Opolopoopolonio: 6:01pm On Apr 18, 2022
princeeze1:

Emotional rant, you think they reason like you. Well! So be it. Let them take the $300b and leave their assets that is worth more than 5 times it’s value. It is a good bargain! But unfortunately, that’s not how it’s gonna play out because most of the multinational coys have clearly stated that their actions are temporary and they intend to return after the conflict. And let me bust your bubble, these coys are all still paying their staffs and meeting their contractual obligations and leases despite suspending operations, this was the reason Russia backtracked from nationalizing them.

Western governments have little or no stake in their private companies. Their private companies are most times on their own. smiley

So it's not a factor in whether Russia's assets get confiscated permanently or not.
Re: You're Meant To Die Not To Defend Military Doctrine Nigeria Russia As Example by Nobody: 8:23pm On Apr 18, 2022
Opolopoopolonio:


Western governments have little or no stake in their private companies. Their private companies are most times on their own. smiley

So it's not a factor in whether Russia's assets get confiscated permanently or not.
You are not intelligent. From all you have been writing its very obvious it’s emotional rant. Even the people you rant on their behalf do not agree with you and will never throw away far much for so little. You can wail all you like, but it’s already an own goal. Who cares what they will, you think Russia was stupid for restricting the outflow of their capital and assets? In the game of big players, it is called tit for tat! This is not Syria or Libya or Venezuela. You clearly are in lack of a superior argument and it hurts you so bad. They know very well if Russia goes ahead and nationalizes those assets, they become super wealthy because it’s investment from the western economy. But both sides will not tow that line. Why? Permanent forfeiture will undermine the western financial system and break trust in the dollar as a reserve currency with many nations switching trade to national or regional currencies thereby weakening the dollar. While nationalizing western assets and cash while making Russia very prosperous will undermine future investment in the country and have an effect on FDI( foreign direct investment). So stop wailing, you are not wiser than both parties, you are just hurt.
Meanwhile, I don’t support war or killings and bloodshed. I am simply against hypocrisy. Just like how unstable you sound. No single principle in your assertions.

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