Jodera:
When the girl is made as headline, the girl's mother came out to talk about it as rape case and on two separate clips na the girl dey do the activity, I think it will be normal for the girl to be talked more than the guys.

If it's a film, surely the girl will be the lead actor.

Forget the mother some people are naturally shameless
She as shown she's not fit to be a mother
The boys should be expose too, at the moment the girl don't know what she's into

Kloppo:


Oh my!!!! this match is about to turn into a RONALDO TESTIMONIAL MATCH and this guy wouldn't like it nor watch it...

the players might be hugging and kissing each other today while united fans might not be singing the Gerrard Slip and "Feed the scousers" song...

No fight,no hatred,no bad-blood,no mocking today......English Rivalry in the poto-poto

LooL.

This one has unmitigated brain tumor.

Kimbeast:

willingly inflecting physical pain on your child is definitely child abuse. Don't try this outside Nigeria.

Bro rest abeg

Jodera:
Lol, I was going to quote him before I saw your response.

And then we wonder why most children of nowadays no too get sense and respect.

Flogging and abusing your child does not lead to respect or them having sense. It leads to them fearing you and dreading your presence. Don't mistake your child fearing you for respect. That's one the sign of a terrible parents.

50d33q:

Bro rest abeg

When your spouse, Girlfriend, Wife or an elderly person etc does something wrong or makes a mistake do you flog or hit them? I guess not so why do you think is now acceptable to hit a defensively child that makes a mistake?

Jodera:
Lol, I was going to quote him before I saw your response.

And then we wonder why most children of nowadays no too get sense and respect.

Omoh If we go down this route e go reach 10 pages so mk e just rest there...d bros even carry dictionary definition come...

Kimbeast:

Flogging and abusing your child does not lead to respect or them having sense. It leads to them fearing you and dreading your presence. That's one the sign of a terrible parents.

Excessive flogging and and abuse(injuries and sort) can certainly be termed child abuse I agree. But mild flogging with the intention of correcting certainly goes a long way keeping your children aright.

And no, a child only fears parent(s) who excessively flogs them and without justifiable reason too.

Anything done Excessively and indiscriminately is bad and can be termed abuse. That does not mean the action itself when done moderately is bad

50d33q:

I also read the girl didn't see the video as a big deal probably because of her age

I think she needs therapy. She needs professional help at this stage of her life. She's obviously been exposed to stuff that are just too much for her age.

Jodera I guess the mother recently watched a new series on Netflix anatomy of scandal
What was a consensual sex suddenly become rape.
After God fear women they throw that word 'rape' casually not knowing it can ruin man for life

Jodera:
Excessive flogging and and abuse(injuries and sort) can certainly be termed child abuse I agree. But mild flogging with the intention of correcting certainly goes a long way keeping your children aright.

And no, a child only fears parent(s) who excessively flogs them and without justifiable reason too.

Anything done Excessively and indiscriminately is bad and can be termed abuse. That does not mean the action itself when done moderately is bad

Any amount of flogging despite the intention is wrong and should be termed as abuse. Most of the things you call respect in Nigeria is usually fear. Children fear and not respect their parents to avoid getting flogged like an animal.

50d33q:

Forget the mother some people are naturally shameless
She as shown she's not fit to be a mother
[b]The boys should be expose too, at the moment the girl don't know what she's int[/b]o

I believe the girl's momsie na slay Queen.
Actually I pity the girl cos as Young as she is, she's in limelight for something negative way bigger than her. She might not know now cos she still too young and all these things was caused by the momsie and the senseless journalism brandishing rape..

It'll do one no world of good for the guys to be exposed. In any case, they should look for ways to make that girl publicity and video to die down. All these digging of the little girl's past to me no be am. She's still to young for all these things

Kimbeast:

When your spouse, Girlfriend, Wife or an elderly person etc does something wrong or makes a mistake do you flog or hit them? I guess not so why do you think is now acceptable to hit a defensively child that makes a mistake?

Kids brain is developing at a young stage just like dogs if you don't handle them with strong hand(discipline and talks) they will ride over you.
According to your definition of child abuse is inflicting physical injury
What if I starve my child as a punishment us that child abuse

CAPdan21:

Omoh If we go down this route e go reach 10 pages so mk e just rest there...d bros even carry dictionary definition come...

50d33q:
Jodera I guess the mother recently watched a new series on Netflix anatomy of scandal
What was a consensual sex suddenly become rape.
After God fear women they throw that word 'rape' casually not knowing it can ruin man for life

Lol, I swear. Na wetin dey vex me for the reports be that. Shameless mother

50d33q:

Kids brain is developing at a young stage just like dogs if you don't handle them with strong hand(discipline and talks) they will ride over you.
According to your definition of child abuse is inflicting physical injury
What if I starve my child as a punishment us that child abuse

They are various forms of child abuse. The moniker mentioned flogging that's why am focused on that alone. You can discpline your child without hitting them. You have no business hitting or flogging your children.

donjazet:
The parents of this girl should really be blamed see her here and see that this didn't start today.
A goddamn 14 years old.
https://twitter.com/Giftnessss/status/1516345896769892358?t=uhvD2EoaOzdwSP0IUoX_eQ&s=19

As in the girl don tey for game sef. See her doing buss it challenge. I have seen several other videos of her twerking and doing sexy stuffs; pulling her top up to shake ynash..touching her body in sensual ways. I wasn't wrong when I said she is probably the one that spoilt the boys..and thought them what they are practicing with her.

She takes the lead while they follows.

In one of the ticktok videos, she was recording herself dancing erotically in their sitting room with her family members around cos I could hear voices. A girl probably around 18 -20yrs came behind her with skimpy gown to twerk too. So its a familly thing. The parent failed WOEFULLY cos this girl morphed into a sex queen right in their very own eyes and they overlooked her..because they are a modern familly..forming WOKE.

Kimbeast:

Any amount of flogging despite the intention is wrong and should be termed as abuse. Most of the things you call respect in Nigeria is usually fear. Children fear and not respect their parents to avoid getting flogged like an animal.

Bros I was moderately flogged for corrective reasons and I never grew up to fear my parents but fully respect them. If you wish not to touch your children at all, them that's your choice. I'm sorry if you knew anyone who was being flogged like an animal cos I see you repeating those words. No be so flogging suppose dey.

No be every flogging be abuse but if you feel otherwise, good luck to you. Afterall the goal na to train up good and disciplined children, so anyway you deem it fit to achieve that, congratulations!!

Jodera:
Bros I was moderately flogged for corrective reasons and I never grew up to fear my parents but fully respect them. If you wish not to touch your children at all, them that's your choice. I'm sorry if you knew anyone who was being flogged like an animal cos I see you repeating those words. No be so flogging suppose dey.

No be every flogging be abuse but if you feel otherwise, good luck to you. Afterall the goal na to train up good and disciplined children, so anyway you deem it fit to achieve that, congratulations!!

Was never expecting you to come and out openingly admit being scared of your parents. Even the Nigeria kids that fear their parents will call it respect due to the culture and environmental factors they grow up in. I just have one question. Do you flog your spouse for corrective reasons?

If you hit your wife cause she did something you didn’t like and she stops doing those things in fear of being hit then that would be abuse. So why does age matter in that factor at all? Like same scenario but instead of a grown woman it’s an 8 year old girl that’s your daughter, now it’s considered has correction? You guys need to really change your mentality.

donjazet:
The parents of this girl should really be blamed see her here and see that this didn't start today.
A goddamn 14 years old.
https://twitter.com/Giftnessss/status/1516345896769892358?t=uhvD2EoaOzdwSP0IUoX_eQ&s=19

Her handle nd bio alone shows she's been in the streets for a long time

Jodera:
Bros I was moderately flogged for corrective reasons and I never grew up to fear my parents but fully respect them. If you wish not to touch your children at all, them that's your choice. I'm sorry if you knew anyone who was being flogged like an animal cos I see you repeating those words. No be so flogging suppose dey.

No be every flogging be abuse but if you feel otherwise, good luck to you. Afterall the goal na to train up good and disciplined children, so anyway you deem it fit to achieve that, congratulations!!

But Flogging does not guarantee good behavior from kids. In my time almost everyone was flogged, not mild flogging but severe flogging with canes, wires, cable anything and we still had wayward kids in my time. There were girls who started having sex as early as 10yrs, some even got pregnant despite being flogged. The only difference was that we didnt have phones and SM to post the stupid things we did like people have today

I remember a girl our senior who got pregnant around JS3, the father brought out cutlass that he would kill her, The mother that was crying before when she saw cutlass na she dey hold the father back

Kimbeast:

Was never expecting you to come and out openingly admit being scared of your parents. Even the Nigeria kids that fear their parents will call it respect due to the culture and environmental factors they grow up in. I just have one question. Do you flog your spouse for corrective reasons?

Lol, whose person example should I use? Yours?
Don't be funny

As for the bolded, Are spouses children/kids again?

If you think one form of correction cuts across all stages of life growth then you should have a rethink.
No one way leads to the market. That you reach your market destination no mean say my own market destination wrong.

As long as the goal is to raise up good and disciplined children, do what you feel best while I do mine. I mean, life no suppose hard pass that one shey?

Jodera:
Lol, whose person example should I use? Yours?
Don't be funny

As for the bolded, Are spouses children/kids again?

If you think one form of correction cuts across all stages of life growth then you should have a rethink.
No one way leads to the market. That you reach your market destination no mean say my own market destination wrong.

As long as the goal is to raise up good and disciplined children, do what you feel best while I do mine. I mean, life no suppose hard pass that one shey?

Let's not go round and round in circles but please don't hit children.

raumdeuter:


But Flogging does not guarantee good behavior from kids. In my time almost everyone was flogged, not mild flogging but severe flogging with canes, wires, cable anything and we still had wayward kids in my time. There were girls who started having sex as early as 10yrs, some even got pregnant despite being flogged

I remember a girl our senior who got pregnant around JS3, the father brought out cutlass that he would kill her, The mother that was crying before when she saw cutlass na she dey hold the father back

Sure, I didn't even mean only flogging, that was why I emphasize on moderate corrective flogging and that goes a long way. They are different ways to discipline children and personally flogging is one of them. It don't need to be severe flogging for kids, yeah.
In fact, it's children whom are excessively flogged that even tend to be wayward becos that's part of their rebellion.

Reason why I said too much/indiscriminate use of everything (not only flogging) is termed abuse and it's bad. But the action itself is not

Jodera:
Sure, I didn't even mean only flogging, that was why I emphasize on moderate corrective flogging and that goes a long way. They are different ways to discipline children and personally flogging is one of them. It don't need to be severe flogging for kids, yeah.
In fact, it's children whom are excessively flogged that even tend to be wayward becos that's part of their rebellion.

Reason why I said too much/indiscriminate use of everything (not only flogging) is termed abuse and it's bad. But the action itself is not

I am sure if you look around your friends while growing up, there were some who were treated similar to how you were treated and they ended up being far worse than you.

Actually in the same household with same treatment one can turn to a priest and one a yahoo boy. There is not one particular treatment that guarantees good behavior. If you take them to church, if you take them to shrine, if you flog if you dont touch them

I have a friend whose dad was a chain smoker but he never smoked in his life

Kimbeast:

Let's not go round and round in circles but please don't hit children.

peace!

DumaEmpire:
Her handle nd bio alone shows she's been in the streets for a long time

I wonder how Ubi Franklin that broke the "rape" story feels now in the face of all these revelations/digging into the girl's social life.

Like this extract.


Actually in the same household with same treatment one can turn to a priest and one a yahoo boy. There is not one particular treatment that guarantees good behavior. If you take them to church, if you take them to shrine, if you flog, if you dont touch them.

In summary whatever approach or system you use Pikin wey go spoil, go spoil irrespective of being a good or bad parents.

raumdeuter:


I am sure if you look around your friends while growing up, there were some who were treated similar to how you were treated and they ended up being far worse than you.

Actually in the same household with same treatment one can turn to a priest and one a yahoo boy. There is not one particular treatment that guarantees good behavior. If you take them to church, if you take them to shrine, if you flog if you dont touch them

I have a friend whose dad was a chain smoker but he never smoked in his life

True words. But my point is just the impact

My point explicitly is this for example, If you train up 10 kids to view girls as sex object, there's high tendency that 8-9 will imbibe that while one won't imbibe such training.

Same way a parent will train their kids in the right way but one fit still spoil along the way. Because of that one that spoilt, should it mean that all parents shouldn't train their kids the right way because "kid wey go spoil go spoil"? Personally to me No!

So that's how I see moderate corrective flogging alongside other forms of good discipline. Granted all kids won't still feel that impact but at least the probability of raising good disciplined children will be higher than if you don't do it.
Afterall, even Jesus wey get 12 disciples, one still be thief amongst them

That's just my point

Jodera:
True. It's just so sad really.
I mean 10yr old girl. I really blame most parents. If you look at children now, the way they talk back at their parents and how insolent most have become, you will know most parents have failed in their parental duties. Then if things goes wrong, we'll Start seeing how school and society have failed the children.

While I believe it's not easy to raise good disciplined kids nowadays, but then nothing good comes easy and even good children too. Notwithstanding God's grace too

Just saw another post by Ubi Franklin. Alot of questions needs to be asked. I can bet its not the girls first time.

Godx:
Like this extract.


Actually in the same household with same treatment one can turn to a priest and one a yahoo boy. There is not one particular treatment that guarantees good behavior. If you take them to church, if you take them to shrine, if you flog, if you dont touch them.

In summary whatever approach or system you use Pikin wey go spoil, go spoil irrespective of being a good or bad parents.

There is a place for guidance and correction but at the end of it na God dey help person

Its like in football, coaching brings out the good in good players, while some players that would be bad no amount of coaching will help
That does not mean leave players without coaching and hope they turn out

Coaching is to help players that are coachable and can be salvaged. The others na to leave them to Gods hand

Odunharry:

Just saw another post by Ubi Franklin. Alot of questions needs to be asked. I can bet its not the girls first time.

E be like say Ubi Franklin just dey use this case and everything revive his career as a blogger cos it seems people don dey forget am

Few weeks ago na threat to beat Bovi on top jokes