topcatking:
[s]Of ask the drivel I've read about the conflict , OP's post has to be the most confidently ignorant and inane.

Please, if you know nothing about geopolitics, try to read and learn from different sources.

Television (as it is today) will not help you .

Peace.[/s]

989900:
Putin invaded Ukraine because it was showing progress and advancement as a democratic country and moving towards advancing as a modern industrialized country. He couldn’t have that on his doorstep.

Why? Not because of any security threat. No one wants to invade Russia. No, it’s because he couldn’t stand the Russian people seeing the rise in standard of living that the Ukraine was going to see. He couldn’t stand for his people to see how much more pleasant living in a free and democratic country would be.

Once they saw those things, they would demand the same.

NATO expansion had nothing to do with it (Russia already shares borders with NATO or within NATO's reach, and taking Ukraine would only bring NATO closer to Russia anyway). Just like it had nothing to do with his invasions of other countries either.


Russia has limited warm water ports, and a navy that’s near collapse with no more than a dozen fully functional capital ships, a half dozen attack submarines, and eight modern missile submarines. It’s air force has few gen 5 fighters.

Russia has basically zero capability to mount expeditionary warfare (as we see in Ukraine). The logistics system is badly designed, rife with the same corruption issues, and largely only capable of defensive war.

Russia’s biggest enemy though isn’t the US or NATO. It’s Russia's own paranoia combined with the attitude of a schoolyard bully. Russia was welcomed by the west back in the 1990’s. Today, Russia could be like a combination of Poland and Norway -- even better had it wanted to be.

A nation with rich natural resources slowly working to throw off the legacy of communism, but it chose a different route: It chose to be an asshole to her neighbors and then wonder why people don’t like them anymore.

Russia's eternal (Russia's been taking her neighbors' territories for centuries) covetousness for her neighbors' territories, the all-year-round navigable ports of Ukraine, the oil and gas in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, land connection and water to Crimea after illegally annexing same in 2014, amongst many other things is driving this madness.

Emmawhite91:
Can some one explain to me what the op meant here?

Johnnycastro18:
"Putin invaded Ukraine because it was showing progress and advancement as a democratic country and moving towards advancing as a modern industrialized country. He couldn’t have that on his doorstep."


So in other words you are saying Russia is jealous of Ukraine progress and development as a country abi? As if Russian itself is not develop and advanced, as a matter of fact Ukraine can be considered a develop country,( at least more develop than your country Nigeria ), I dont have a problem in you trying to defend Ukraine or rather pointing out the cause of the war, but the writeup above is full of inconsistent errors and laugh-able facts which can hold no water whatsoever, I am pretty confident even the ukraineans would be nodding there head in this poor attempt of yours in explaining they cause of there conflicts, I believe you can do better than this........

989900:


"Putin invaded Ukraine because it was showing progress and advancement as a democratic country . . ."

I'll assume you're smart enough to understand that, and won't need further assistance to absorb what that encapsulates.

Not to mention the small matter of Russia trying to steal via armed robbery roughly 80% of Ukraine's oil and gas.

That said, "laughable" is you saying so much without actually saying anything . . . any random individual can throw empty words around without facts nor substance like you just did . . . I'll like to believe "you can do better than this" too.

Cheers.

Johnnycastro18:
"Putin invaded Ukraine because it was showing progress and advancement as a democratic country . . ." ogah this statement of yours is the reason why I use the word "laughable" , is Ukraine the only country showing the so called signs of progress and advancement in Europe? Finland an European country sharing boundary with Russia is also showing thesame so called progress, and signs of advancement and is infact a Democratic country, why is Russian not invading or attacking them for that, Russia and even the western media's with all the propaganda going round, still admit the fact which we all know is the cause of the war "Ukraine decision to join NATO" and I believe there is no need adding any bogus narration that look silly on all ramifications, an end to the war is all what we are looking forward too . anyway cheers to you too,

989900:
Putin invaded Ukraine because it was showing progress and advancement as a democratic country and moving towards advancing as a modern industrialized country. He couldn’t have that on his doorstep.

Why? Not because of any security threat. No one wants to invade Russia. No, it’s because he couldn’t stand the Russian people seeing the rise in standard of living that the Ukraine was going to see. He couldn’t stand for his people to see how much more pleasant living in a free and democratic country would be.

Once they saw those things, they would demand the same.

NATO expansion had nothing to do with it (Russia already shares borders with NATO or within NATO's reach, and taking Ukraine would only bring NATO closer to Russia anyway). Just like it had nothing to do with his invasions of other countries either.


Russia has limited warm water ports, and a navy that’s near collapse with no more than a dozen fully functional capital ships, a half dozen attack submarines, and eight modern missile submarines. It’s air force has few gen 5 fighters.

Russia has basically zero capability to mount expeditionary warfare (as we see in Ukraine). The logistics system is badly designed, rife with the same corruption issues, and largely only capable of defensive war.

Russia’s biggest enemy though isn’t the US or NATO. It’s Russia's own paranoia combined with the attitude of a schoolyard bully. Russia was welcomed by the west back in the 1990’s. Today, Russia could be like a combination of Poland and Norway -- even better had it wanted to be.

A nation with rich natural resources slowly working to throw off the legacy of communism, but it chose a different route: It chose to be an asshole to her neighbors and then wonder why people don’t like them anymore.

Russia's eternal (Russia's been taking her neighbors' territories for centuries) covetousness for her neighbors' territories, the all-year-round navigable ports of Ukraine, the oil and gas in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, land connection and water to Crimea after illegally annexing same in 2014, amongst many other things is driving this madness.

Sirlancelort:
Your own don pass CNN, so are you trying to say that the Russian people are not seeing what other democratic countries outside Ukraine are enjoying?.

989900:


1. I actually didn't anticipate I'd have to breakdown advancing democracy in eastern European context to kindergarten level . . . you totally got the interpretation wrong.
And honestly, I shouldn't be having this discussion with you, if I have to come down to that level.

2. Russia has always been a threat to all her neighbors -- and it's been this way for centuries. Reasons why Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and Poland all sharing borders with Russia joined NATO. Same reason Finland (I'll intentionally skip Finland's past suffering in the hands of Russia) and Sweden are set to join NATO any moment soon. Of all her neighbors, Ukraine is the least likely to be admitted into NATO 'cause it has present territorial disputes, which makes it totally unacceptable into NATO.

3. Ironically, Russia aligned and signed pact with NATO as far back as 1997 to partner with NATO.

4. If only you did read the entire original post and fact-check the points raised, you'd be in a better position to have an intellectual/factual discuss, but you didn't, which is a given around these parts: emotions over facts.

989900:


1. I actually didn't anticipate I'd have to breakdown advancing democracy in eastern European context to kindergarten level . . . you totally got the interpretation wrong.
And honestly, I shouldn't be having this discussion with you, if I have to come down to that level.

2. Russia has always been a threat to all her neighbors -- and it's been this way for centuries. Reasons why Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and Poland all sharing borders with Russia joined NATO. Same reason Finland (I'll intentionally skip Finland's past suffering in the hands of Russia) and Sweden are set to join NATO any moment soon. Of all her neighbors, Ukraine is the least likely to be admitted into NATO 'cause it has present territorial disputes, which makes it totally unacceptable into NATO.

3. Ironically, Russia aligned and signed pact with NATO as far back as 1997 to partner with NATO.

4. If only you did read the entire original post and fact-check the points raised, you'd be in a better position to have an intellectual/factual discuss, but you didn't, which is a given around these parts: emotions over facts.

olugabbie:


Don't mind the guy. The West made him believe that Russians are hearing & sight impaired.

Some of them don't know that Russia is as advanced as the West. Likewise China. There is nothing they have in the West that you won't see in Russia.

olugabbie:


Don't mind the guy. The West made him believe that Russians are hearing & sight impaired.

Some of them don't know that Russia is as advanced as the West. Likewise China. There is nothing they have in the West that you won't see in Russia.

olugabbie:


Don't mind the guy. [s]The West made him believe that Russians are hearing & sight impaired.
[/s]
Some of them don't know that Russia is as advanced as the West. Likewise China. There is nothing they have in the West that you won't see in Russia.

sunboy:
[s]Which kind weed you try na

Leave geopolitics alone if you have no idea, you’d do better in romance or poetic section[/s]

olugabbie:



When the baltic states joined NATO, Russia was not a threat to them. Russia was extremely weak militarily and economically. The only thing Russia had then was Nuclear weapon.

After the dissolution of the USSR, all the states (including Russia) that emerged from the fall of the Soviet Union were extremely poor. The baltic states needed help and that was why they join EU & NATO.

Russia on the other hand was saved by Putin. He brought Russia out of the mess and made Russia super power once again. Today Russia is a energy, technology and military super power.