Ken4Christ:


I am not dragging Jesus down. He is my role model. You don't expect me or men of God to do what Jesus didn't do. We are not greater than Jesus. He is the author and finisher of our faith.

I didn't expect anything from you all. I am demanding that you all prove the lies that you have been telling Nigerians.

Show us the miracle that you promised us. Go to the morgue and show us that you are powerful. The bibke said Jesus healed THEM ALL. Step out of your pulpit built on voodoo and skulls of innocent victims. Go into the streets and heal as you walk along.

Pastors should be locked up in morgues for 2 weeks and properly feed. If the bodies don't rise, extend the time to 2 months.

Upon release, they will vomit the truth.

Adeboye has no single layer of humility in his dermis. That man is a slow moving viper that strikes where it bleeds. Showing off humility while exuding exuberance is vane. I see beyond your freakeries. You all are spineless necromancers

Your initial reaction is to disrespect Jesus and all the faithfuls in the Bible to elevate your gruesome pastors.

Peter and Paul had different assignments not ministries. Peter extended and arm of friendship. They both worked together and Paul also rebuked him publicly. Tell me who has rebuked Adeboye public and for what.

Paul and Barnabas disagreed on taking Mark along with them on the journey, not on beliefs. They later reunited and continued their assignments. Tell me how many churches have reunited after schisms.

You cannot threaten me cos I will spit in you and your pastors' faces. The curse upon Miriam has been used by your pastors to drain the resisting fluid off anyone who calls them out. You have mastered that art and will never fail to invoke it to deter anyone who tries to expose you.

I have challenged you to tell me Lazarus and Adeboye's sins. Peter disowned his master. David and Bathsheba, Moses sinned and couldn't see the promised land. What are the visible sins of your pastors? Are they more righteous than Peter?

Peter and Paul maintained the oneness in the spirit of Christ. Paul and Barnabad and even Mark continued to blossom in unity.

Ken4Christ:


Point of correction. Peter and Paul had separate ministries. Paul was sent to the Gentiles while Peter was sent to the Jews.

The early church also had disunity amongst themselves. Paul and Barnabas had disagreement such that they had to go their separate ways in the course of discharging their duty.

Acts 15:36-40
36 And some days after Paul said unto Barnabas, Let us go again and visit our brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord, and see how they do.

37 And Barnabas determined to take with them John, whose surname was Mark.

38 But Paul thought not good to take him with them, who departed from them from Pamphylia, and went not with them to the work.

39 AND THE CONTENTION WAS SO SHARP BETWEEN THEM, THAT THEY DEPARTED ASUNDER ONE FROM THE OTHER and so Barnabas took Mark, and sailed unto Cyprus;

40 And Paul chose Silas, and departed, being recommended by the brethren unto the grace of God.

If you must criticize, do it constructively. You have no moral right to judge or condemn a servant of God. As it is written;

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

If you know of any satanic work they are doing, point them out backed up with scripture. You are not talking like someone who is born again. The tone of your voice sounds like someone assigned to pull down men of God. But you are too small to do that. God knows those who are his.

Be careful so that the judgment that came upon Miriam who spoke against Moses will not come upon you.

Ken4Christ:


Those they brought to Jesus had faith to be healed.

I doubt those dead bodies He raised were in any position to exercise their faith before He resurrected them. Just pointing it out.

HedwigesMaduro:

I doubt those dead bodies He raised were in any position to exercise their faith before He resurrected them. Just pointing it out.

Who told you this?
Abeg Churchgoers say it's their bodies that's dead their soul/spirit is not dead so it's possible for them to exercise faith even when they're dead!

HedwigesMaduro:


I doubt those dead bodies He raised were in any position to exercise their faith before He resurrected them. Just pointing it out.

The faith of the family played a role. This is why Jesus told Martha, the sister to Lazarus;

John 11:49.... Said I not unto thee, that, IF THOU WOULDST BELIEVE, thou shouldest see the glory of God?

Sixfiguresmart:
Your initial reaction is to disrespect Jesus and all the faithfuls in the Bible to elevate your gruesome pastors.

Peter and Paul had different assignments not ministries. Peter extended and arm of friendship. They both worked together and Paul also rebuked him publicly. Tell me who has rebuked Adeboye public and for what.

Paul and Barnabas disagreed on taking Mark along with them on the journey, not on beliefs. They later reunited and continued their assignments. Tell me how many churches have reunited after schisms.

You cannot threaten me cos I will spit in you and your pastors' faces. The curse upon Miriam has been used by your pastors to drain the resisting fluid off anyone who calls them out. You have mastered that art and will never fail to invoke it to deter anyone who tries to expose you.

I have challenged you to tell me Lazarus and Adeboye's sins. Peter disowned his master. David and Bathsheba, Moses sinned and couldn't see the promised land. What are the visible sins of your pastors? Are they more righteous than Peter?

Peter and Paul maintained the oneness in the spirit of Christ. Paul and Barnabad and even Mark continued to blossom in unity.

There were still people who taught different things in the early church. This is clearly revealed in the letter of Jesus to the churches in Asia.

Our Lord Jesus condemned the doctrine of Balaam and Nicolaitans - Revelation 2:14-15. So, there was also forms of disunity in the early church.

Even within the church of Corinth, there was division. And they were thus rebuked by Paul.

And the church is much more larger than it was then. But I believe these walls of division in belief will gradually crumble over time. At least, the Deeper Life church no longer holds tightly to some things they taught when they first started. We will certainly not be under one umbrella, but we will gradually get to the point where we will believe the same thing.

Ken4Christ:


There were still people who taught different things in the early church. This is clearly revealed in the letter of Jesus to the churches in Asia.

Our Lord Jesus condemned the doctrine of Balaam and Nicolaitans - Revelation 2:14-15. So, there was also forms of disunity in the early church.

Even within the church of Corinth, there was division. And they were thus rebuked by Paul.

And the church is much more larger than it was then. But I believe these walls of division in belief will gradually crumble over time. At least, the Deeper Life church no longer holds tightly to some things they taught when they first started. We will certainly not be under one umbrella, but we will gradually get to the point where we will believe the same thing.

once more, malign and discredit the early church to enthrone your freakeries.

You never stop at attacking the Bible to elevate your pastors. As you said, Jesus condemned them.

Where aand when did Adeboye condemn T.B Joshua PUBLICLY in the manner that Jesus condemned Balaam in the 20 years that you discovered that he was fake?

Did Jesus mention the names of those that he condemned? Did he condemn in Parables?
Show me receipts of Adeboye and Lazarus condemning T.B Joshua and Leke in clear and basic words just as Jesus did if they are truly FOLLOWING Jesus.

If you cannot be under one umbrella which is supposed to be the BODY of Christ, isn't your god one of disagreement and disunity? If your god cannot be orderly enough to unite you, how did he enrich you with this much power to strike Satan and perform signs?

Paul rebuked Peter and corrected him and they continued in one mind. So, how are you not a satanic prodigy when you saw T.B Joshua going astray and you and your cohorts watched him for 20 years, only to rub your fecal matters on his grave stone?

Tell me why Lazarus and all your choicest pastors cannot publicly reprimand Leke Adeboye.

Did you tell Leke that the pastors that he calls goats are anointed by God?
Did you tell him that the curse of Mariam could be on him?
Is this threat of curses only for people like me?
Does Leke know that Jesus died for that pastor that he call a goat?
Did anyone of you quote TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED to Leke?
Or, has that pastor suddenly lost his anointing because Leke is the toucher?

Do you know what happened to Eli the priest?

I can bare your hypocrisy all day all year.

Tell me the poor man's wedding that Lazarus and Adeboye have attended lately.

The church in Corinth was still receiving instructions from Paul. The division didnt rest to a schism, it was within the wall encapsulated by the umbrella, the BODY of Christ. Tell me who Lazarus receives instructions from. From whom does Adeboye receive instructions?

They all assert that God speaks to them DIRECTLY. Not even Timothy in the Bible uttered those words. Are your pastors more pious than Timothy?

How is your church larger today? Your luxury or private jets only get larger not your church. Paul with his friends accomplished remarkable feat than all your pastors combined could ever do. You know why? He OVERTURNED ingrained reasonings and allowed the soothing spirit of God to produce suasive fruits and bud their mental prowess.

This is something so far impossible for Adeboye since the son living under his roof cannot experience the calmative effect of the power of the word. If Leke cannot experience this, it proves that it cannot be found in Adeboye himself. Had it, It could have been passed on to him just like Paul mentored Timothy.

Sixfiguresmart:
once more, malign and discredit the early church to enthrone your freakeries.

You never stop at attacking the Bible to elevate your pastors. As you said, Jesus condemned them.

Where aand when did Adeboye condemn T.B Joshua PUBLICLY in the manner that Jesus condemned Balaam in the 20 years that you discovered that he was fake?

Did Jesus mention the names of those that he condemned? Did he condemn in Parables?
Show me receipts of Adeboye and Lazarus condemning T.B Joshua and Leke in clear and basic words just as Jesus did if they are truly FOLLOWING Jesus.

If you cannot be under one umbrella which is supposed to be the BODY of Christ, isn't your god one of disagreement and disunity? If your god cannot be orderly enough to unite you, how did he enrich you with this much power to strike Satan and perform signs?

Paul rebuked Peter and corrected him and they continued in one mind. So, how are you not a satanic prodigy when you saw T.B Joshua going astray and you and your cohorts watched him for 20 years, only to rub your fecal matters on his grave stone?

Tell me why Lazarus and all your choicest pastors cannot publicly reprimand Leke Adeboye.

Did you tell Leke that the pastors that he calls goats are anointed by God?
Did you tell him that the curse of Mariam could be on him?
Is this threat of curses only for people like me?
Does Leke know that Jesus died for that pastor that he call a goat?
Did anyone of you quote TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED to Leke?
Or, has that pastor suddenly lost his anointing because Leke is the toucher?

Do you know what happened to Eli the priest?

I can bare your hypocrisy all day all year.

Tell me the poor man's wedding that Lazarus and Adeboye have attended lately.

The church in Corinth was still receiving instructions from Paul. The division didnt rest to a schism, it was within the wall encapsulated by the umbrella, the BODY of Christ. Tell me who Lazarus receives instructions from. From whom does Adeboye receive instructions?

They all assert that God speaks to them DIRECTLY. Not even Timothy in the Bible uttered those words. Are your pastors more pious than Timothy?

How is your church larger today? Your luxury or private jets only get larger not your church. Paul with his friends accomplished remarkable feat than all your pastors combined could ever do. You know why? He OVERTURNED ingrained reasonings and allowed the soothing spirit of God to produce suasive fruits and bud their mental prowess.

This is something so far impossible for Adeboye since the son living under his roof cannot experience the calmative effect of the power of the word. If Leke cannot experience this, it proves that it cannot be found in Adeboye himself. Had it, It could have been passed on to him just like Paul mentored Timothy.

Leke has been summon to appear before a disciplinary committee. His speech was publicly condemned.

Not everyone has the boldness to point out those in errors. But I have always done that even when T B Joshua was alive at least on this forum.

Adeboye is not my Pastor and he is neither my mentor. But I honour him for the great exploit in ministry. The Redeem Christian Church is currently the largest Pentecostal church in the world. All you see is fault. What have you achieved as a person for God? The advancement of God's kingdom is the collective responsibility of every child of God. Or, you hold the office of a chief critic. Is it what you will be rewarded for? Is it the assignment that Jesus gave to you? Only finding fault and never seeing any good. What will you tell Jesus you have done for him when you stand before his judgment seat?

Ken4Christ:


Leke has been summon to appear before a disciplinary committee. His speech was publicly condemned.

Not everyone has the boldness to point out those in errors. But I have always done that even when T B Joshua was alive at least on this forum.

Adeboye is not my Pastor and he is neither my mentor. But I honour him for the great exploit in ministry. The Redeem Christian Church is currently the largest Pentecostal church in the world. All you see is fault. What have you achieved as a person for God? The advancement of God's kingdom is the collective responsibility of every child of God. Or, you hold the office of a chief critic. Is it what you will be rewarded for? Is it the assignment that Jesus gave to you? Only finding fault and never seeing any good. What will you tell Jesus you have done for him when you stand before his judgment seat?

Send me a link and let me watch the proceedings of the disciplinary committee the way you guys televise your miracles.

I want the same transparency that Paul and Barnabas had in their altercation. Likewise Paul and Peter. Let us be honest for once. Leke sits far above all those in the disciplinary committee. The effrontery to call a senior pastor of his own church a goat stemmed from a place we both know.

You ended up attacking me rather than proving the points with facts. If the size of Adeboye's church is a Criterion, I will go on my knees to thank the Fraternity for building such incredible number of devotees.

I am not looking for faults. I didn't tagged you. You tagged me but cry out cos you are profoundly mired in the mud that I am bringing. I am just beginning. I said that Freeze is right. And, he is logically and spiritually.

You give honour to Adeboye. I don't need to be reminded that your revere and adulate him. Your writeups are emblematic of your full devotion to him and your veneration of him. From the get go, I called you evil cos I am in the rabbit holes with your ilks here too.

You pontificating self-righteous and pious looking cans of worms. You are are wilful deluded. My job is to expose you and prove to you that not all are gullible.

Why can't Adeboye and Lazarus vocally condemn Bubari and the governors that they shake hands and dine with the way Jesus beastly attacked the pharisees?

Why isn't the curse of Mariam landing on Leke? Or, isn't that goat pastor an anointed?
Is this curse meant for those whose parents aren't pastors?

The 5 loaves and the fishes Jesus shared were supposed to be the meal for him and his apostles. But out of compassion he gave away his dinner. The man that you honour, Adeboye has a hot � 110 M USD sitting in the bank while the donors of that cash go to bed hungry.

T.B Joshua couldn't take all that wealth to the grave. He died and left the hundreds of millions behind.

Does Adeboye pray for his daily bread as Jesus commanded us to, while he sleeps on 110 M USD?

Does Adeboye read about the rich man that Jesus asked to give away his wealth to the poor?

Will Adeboye, Ashimolowo and oyedepo give away their private jets and wealth to the poor?

Let your cogitation spring from your brain and not your sphincter.

Sixfiguresmart:
Send me a link and let me watch the proceedings of the disciplinary committee the way you guys televise your miracles.

I want the same transparency that Paul and Barnabas had in their altercation. Likewise Paul and Peter. Let us be honest for once. Leke sits far above all those in the disciplinary committee. The effrontery to call a senior pastor of his own church a goat stemmed from a place we both know.

You ended up attacking me rather than proving the points with facts. If the size of Adeboye's church is a Criterion, I will go on my knees to thank the Fraternity for building such incredible number of devotees.

I am not looking for faults. I didn't tagged you. You tagged me but cry out cos you are profoundly mired in the mud that I am bringing. I am just beginning. I said that Freeze is right. And, he is logically and spiritually.

You give honour to Adeboye. I don't need to be reminded that your revere and adulate him. Your writeups are emblematic of your full devotion to him and your veneration of him. From the get go, I called you evil cos I am in the rabbit holes with your ilks here too.

You pontificating self-righteous and pious looking cans of worms. You are are wilful deluded. My job is to expose you and prove to you that not all are gullible.

Why can't Adeboye and Lazarus vocally condemn Bubari and the governors that they shake hands and dine with the way Jesus beastly attacked the pharisees?

Why isn't the curse of Mariam landing on Leke? Or, isn't that goat pastor an anointed?
Is this curse meant for those whose parents aren't pastors?

The 5 loaves and the fishes Jesus shared were supposed to be the meal for him and his apostles. But out of compassion he gave away his dinner. The man that you honour, Adeboye has a hot � 110 M USD sitting in the bank while the donors of that cash go to bed hungry.

T.B Joshua couldn't take all that wealth to the grave. He died and left the hundreds of millions behind.

Does Adeboye pray for his daily bread as Jesus commanded us to, while he sleeps on 110 M USD?

Does Adeboye read about the rich man that Jesus asked to give away his wealth to the poor?

Will Adeboye, Ashimolowo and oyedepo give away their private jets and wealth to the poor?

Let your cogitation spring from your brain and not your sphincter.

What is your contribution to the advancement of God's kingdom? And who is your pastor? Are you even born again? Answer these questions first before I can continue to discuss with you.

Ken4Christ:

What is your contribution to the advancement of God's kingdom? And who is your pastor? Are you even born again? Answer these questions first before I can continue to discuss with you.

So now you're asking for his pastor but before you will talk as if grouping is not necessary!

MaxInDHouse:


So now you're asking for his pastor but before you will talk as if grouping is not necessary!

What is your business here? You should repent fast before you join your founder Russell in burning hell.

Ken4Christ:

What is your business here? You should repent fast before you join your founder Russell in burning hell.

So your fathers, mothers, uncle, aunties and pastors who have died are where now? Ecclesiastes 9:10

Ken4Christ:


What is your contribution to the advancement of God's kingdom? And who is your pastor? Are you even born again? Answer these questions first before I can continue to discuss with you.

This is my contribution, to call out fairies like you and your cohort. To enable the sheeples see the stark deceit and hypocrisy in order to make proper decisions. To prove that the most-dreaded curse is a ploy to ground critics.

My contribution is proving that I read the Bible too and the knowledge that you imagine to master is equally accessible to me. I match you scripture for scripture and exegesis for exegesis.

My pastor is Christ. He is the greatest teacher the world would ever know. The Bible asserts that I am standing on tge shoulders of his apostles not some claimants who cannot prove his apostolic vocation by works visible to man and to God.

None of Jesus apostle or Jesus himself paraded the streets questioning strangers if they were born again. You hypocrites shove born again down people's throat with your cloaks and regalia to garner adulation and unearned glory.

The intent of your questions is clear to me. To categorise me and box me in a repository. You are looking for weapons to stabs me with. If truly you were godly, you would rather focus on the points that I have mentioned, admitted to being fallible and thank me for citing the changes that must be made.

If I can see this, why can't you, the one claiming to have spiritual discernment? You do not consider me godly at all, but why can't you admit that I am telling you the deep truth that even your discernment fidgets to comprehend.

I told you that I am just beginning. I perceive you are a straight shooter and a chaser. The only reason why you would back down on me is because the stratosphere of my connaissance is explosively enormous for you to handle.

I am making my points and you are pivoting. You can't win me over by being evasive. I have regular talks with your ilks here and expose them to the point where their violence manifest. I know the ground that I am standing and my current angle is to meet you on a common ground where what I'm bringing is best known by you. Sorry that it hits you hard, but the deeper we go, the higher the wavelength of my expository current.

Answer me, why do all pastors have wives when Paul recommended that it is BETTER to BE SINGLE?

Why do all top pastors retain their wealth when Jesus advised a rich man to give his wealth away? And, the man was not even a teacher of the word.

Why do pastors have ARMED security men when Jesus told them that they will be killed?

Why hasn't any top pastor been persecuted, thrown to prison, killed in the manner thay Jesus and HIS apostles patterned? Or, did Jesus lie when he said that these things would happen?

Jesus had nowhere to lay his head. However, where does your pastor lay his head? On gold-plated exquisite luxury. You must be really blind not to understand this.

The gift of the holy is given differently to individuals. However one pastor is a minister, a healer, a teacher, a money keeper, a church representative before politicians, a campaigner for politicians, an author, a publisher, the HEAD OF HIS CHURCH etc. Hasn't that pastor made himself the holy spirit already. What is left for the holy spirit to share? He assumes all the gifts.

If I ask you who is the head of the RCCG, the answer that the average man will give is Adeboye. Likewise Chosen, Lazarus. Likewise winners, Oyedepo. But the Bible says that Christ is the head. Google what I just wrote and verify for yourself. And, they are 100% right. Why? Because the church truly belongs to these individuals and not Christ.

They have assumed the place of Jesus and rather than directing people to Jesus, they direct them to their ever abounding storehouse for tithing and offering booths. Broad Daylight rogues.

Timothy forfeited schooling in Athen, the best of education at the time to focus on serving God. However, all the children of your pastors are sent to school abroad and in the best of educational institutions. Who are you deceiving?

Tell me why a GO pastor would gift a house to his pastor, (note: his pastor, not the pastor of Christ) when Jesus said that those on the house top should run and leave everything behind.

Listen to all the top pastors refer to the pastors in their churches as MY PASTOR. Rightly so, they are his pastors not pastor of Christ. Ask Lazarus how many pastors HE HAS, he will not decode that he is being haughty and snatching away God's sheep. Even with their so-called spirit of discernment, they cannot understand.

It will be a long smear of fecal matters on your face as long as this continues. I await your chastised heart to feel contrite and humble. Do not look at attcking me. Focus on the message and ponder over it.

Sixfiguresmart:
He's right. These pastors are aerial carriers of sophistry

If they cannot locate the missing Malaysian flight, they could not see Osinachi's tribulations, they could not heal Ada Jesus.

They are all after money. Vane preachers. Ruthless vipers

Since it's the same God we serve and you have such a good heart to heal. If I were you, I'd contend for God's real power of healing and heal everyone on the street. No need for too much talk saint! Just take action...

danny56:

Since it's the same God we serve and you have such a good heart to heal. If I were you, I'd contend for God's real power of healing and heal everyone on the street. No need for too much talk saint! Just take action...

who told you that we serve the same God?

danny56:

Since it's the same God we serve and you have such a good heart to heal. If I were you, I'd contend for God's real power of healing and heal everyone on the street. No need for too much talk saint! Just take action...

Even Satan never contradicts himself so once there's contradictions then know that it can't be the same God!

Ken4Christ:

What is your contribution to the advancement of God's kingdom? And who is your pastor? Are you even born again? Answer these questions first before I can continue to discuss with you.

I am waiting for your reply. I just came in now and I am highly disappointed that you haven't replied

Sixfiguresmart:
I am waiting for your reply. I just came in now and I am highly disappointed that you haven't replied

I will be wasting my time replying someone who has not been initiated into the kingdom of God. So, convince me that you are a part of God's kingdom. And what are your contributions to the advancement of God's kingdom?

Sixfiguresmart:
This is my contribution, to call out fairies like you and your cohort. To enable the sheeples see the stark deceit and hypocrisy in order to make proper decisions. To prove that the most-dreaded curse is a ploy to ground critics.

My contribution is proving that I read the Bible too and the knowledge that you imagine to master is equally accessible to me. I match you scripture for scripture and exegesis for exegesis.

My pastor is Christ. He is the greatest teacher the world would ever know. The Bible asserts that I am standing on tge shoulders of his apostles not some claimants who cannot prove his apostolic vocation by works visible to man and to God.

None of Jesus apostle or Jesus himself paraded the streets questioning strangers if they were born again. You hypocrites shove born again down people's throat with your cloaks and regalia to garner adulation and unearned glory.

The intent of your questions is clear to me. To categorise me and box me in a repository. You are looking for weapons to stabs me with. If truly you were godly, you would rather focus on the points that I have mentioned, admitted to being fallible and thank me for citing the changes that must be made.

If I can see this, why can't you, the one claiming to have spiritual discernment? You do not consider me godly at all, but why can't you admit that I am telling you the deep truth that even your discernment fidgets to comprehend.

I told you that I am just beginning. I perceive you are a straight shooter and a chaser. The only reason why you would back down on me is because the stratosphere of my connaissance is explosively enormous for you to handle.

I am making my points and you are pivoting. You can't win me over by being evasive. I have regular talks with your ilks here and expose them to the point where their violence manifest. I know the ground that I am standing and my current angle is to meet you on a common ground where what I'm bringing is best known by you. Sorry that it hits you hard, but the deeper we go, the higher the wavelength of my expository current.

Answer me, why do all pastors have wives when Paul recommended that it is BETTER to BE SINGLE?

Why do all top pastors retain their wealth when Jesus advised a rich man to give his wealth away? And, the man was not even a teacher of the word.

Why do pastors have ARMED security men when Jesus told them that they will be killed?

Why hasn't any top pastor been persecuted, thrown to prison, killed in the manner thay Jesus and HIS apostles patterned? Or, did Jesus lie when he said that these things would happen?

Jesus had nowhere to lay his head. However, where does your pastor lay his head? On gold-plated exquisite luxury. You must be really blind not to understand this.

The gift of the holy is given differently to individuals. However one pastor is a minister, a healer, a teacher, a money keeper, a church representative before politicians, a campaigner for politicians, an author, a publisher, the HEAD OF HIS CHURCH etc. Hasn't that pastor made himself the holy spirit already. What is left for the holy spirit to share? He assumes all the gifts.

If I ask you who is the head of the RCCG, the answer that the average man will give is Adeboye. Likewise Chosen, Lazarus. Likewise winners, Oyedepo. But the Bible says that Christ is the head. Google what I just wrote and verify for yourself. And, they are 100% right. Why? Because the church truly belongs to these individuals and not Christ.

They have assumed the place of Jesus and rather than directing people to Jesus, they direct them to their ever abounding storehouse for tithing and offering booths. Broad Daylight rogues.

Timothy forfeited schooling in Athen, the best of education at the time to focus on serving God. However, all the children of your pastors are sent to school abroad and in the best of educational institutions. Who are you deceiving?

Tell me why a GO pastor would gift a house to his pastor, (note: his pastor, not the pastor of Christ) when Jesus said that those on the house top should run and leave everything behind.

Listen to all the top pastors refer to the pastors in their churches as MY PASTOR. Rightly so, they are his pastors not pastor of Christ. Ask Lazarus how many pastors HE HAS, he will not decode that he is being haughty and snatching away God's sheep. Even with their so-called spirit of discernment, they cannot understand.

It will be a long smear of fecal matters on your face as long as this continues. I await your chastised heart to feel contrite and humble. Do not look at attcking me. Focus on the message and ponder over it.

You see that you don't even know the Bible. Jesus had a home. He only didn't have a place to lay his head at that specific moment. But he had a home. Read the evidence below;

John 1:38-39
38 Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou?

39 He saith unto them, Come and see. THEY CAME AND SAW WHERE HE DWELT, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour.

His house was big enough to accommodate
his disciples. So, stop living in ignorance.

Mr. Fox, I am now following you. I reiterate that my Lord told me in the Bible that he had nowhere tk lay his head. That is what I said, and then I asked you where your reverends lay their heads. Why did you choose out of all the million points that I oulined to address that single point?

Deceitful and evasive hypocrisy runs wild in your veins. So, your point is to prove that Jesus, a carpentar had a luxury home. I clearly said a place to lay his head cos those were Jesus words.

I admit that I don't know the Bible. Thank you for citing that. Now, tell me why your top pastors are not persecuted, thrown in prisons, and KILLED just the way Jesus and his apostles were and the way Jesus prophesied.

Kindly prove your Bible knowledge

Ken4Christ:


You see that you don't even know the Bible. Jesus had a home. He only didn't have a place to lay his head at that specific moment. But he had a home. Read the evidence below;

John 1:38-39
38 Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou?

39 He saith unto them, Come and see. THEY CAME AND SAW WHERE HE DWELT, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour.

His house was big enough to accommodate
his disciples. So, stop living in ignorance.

Ken4Christ:

I will be wasting my time replying someone who has not been initiated into the kingdom of God. So, convince me that you are a part of God's kingdom. And what are your contributions to the advancement of God's kingdom?

Jesus had time for Judas. He had time for the Sadducees, and the Pharisees. You suddenly have no time for me?

You should have asked if I was a part of the kingdom before proselytising to me. If your point were legal and reasonable.

Jesus spent time rebuking Peter. That surely is an advancement of God's kingdom. Paul rebuked Peter, Jesus rebuked the Pharisees. Did all these rebukes contribute to God's kingdom or not?

Have you now become the imperial judge sitting on the heights to validate my affinity with God's kingdom. Even Jesus had SECRET disciples. Who are you to demand my certificate of forgiveness or my qualification as a recipient of God's love?

I really want to drag you until you set the sheeples free.

Does Jesus promise to bless the poor include Lazarus and Adeboye?

Sixfiguresmart:
Jesus had time for Judas. He had time for the Sadducees, and the Pharisees. You suddenly have no time for me?

You should have asked if I was a part of the kingdom before proselytising to me. If your point were legal and reasonable.

Jesus spent time rebuking Peter. That surely is an advancement of God's kingdom. Paul rebuked Peter, Jesus rebuked the Pharisees. Did all these rebukes contribute to God's kingdom or not?

Have you now become the imperial judge sitting on the heights to validate my affinity with God's kingdom. Even Jesus had SECRET disciples. Who are you to demand my certificate of forgiveness or my qualification as a recipient of God's love?

I really want to drag you until you set the sheeples free.

Does Jesus promise to bless the poor include Lazarus and Adeboye?

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the NATURAL MAN receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned

The above verse of scripture is the reason I demanded if you are born again. Otherwise, you will never understand whatever I will explain to you. It takes a spiritual man to grasp spiritual truth. Please, tell me. Are you born again? Have you been baptized with the Holy Spirit? If not, I can guide you on how to be saved and receive the most precious gift of God which is the Holy Spirit.

Sixfiguresmart:
Mr. Fox, I am now following you. I reiterate that my Lord told me in the Bible that he had nowhere tk lay his head. That is what I said, and then I asked you where your reverends lay their heads. Why did you choose out of all the million points that I oulined to address that single point?

Deceitful and evasive hypocrisy runs wild in your veins. So, your point is to prove that Jesus, a carpentar had a luxury home. I clearly said a place to lay his head cos those were Jesus words.

I admit that I don't know the Bible. Thank you for citing that. Now, tell me why your top pastors are not persecuted, thrown in prisons, and KILLED just the way Jesus and his apostles were and the way Jesus prophesied.

Kindly prove your Bible knowledge

Every believer does not need to be persecuted the way the early church was. Even the early church had rest from persecution at a certain time. The scripture says;

Acts 9:31 Then HAD THE CHURCHES REST throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.

So, God has given the churches in Nigeria rest.

David fought war throughout his reign as a King but Solomon his son had rest.

So, the story must not be the same. But there are some parts of the world that Christians are being persecuted right now. Even Christians are going through persecutions in some part of the north.

genkins:

Religious people always find an excuse for thier oppressors. They always give a reason why thier pastors are rich but thier members are poor. Why thier pastors only heal people we do not know.. Let them try cobams asuquo or yinka anyefele that we know. They always give excuse as to why pastors cannot heal in hospitals but only in thier churches. Why none of them saw covid 19..etc... They will even give an excuse for thier pastors sleeping with members wives.. .lol

I swear, its always one stupid excuse or the other, I dont l dont how someone can be foolishly blind in this era

Sixfiguresmart:
This is my contribution, to call out fairies like you and your cohort. To enable the sheeples see the stark deceit and hypocrisy in order to make proper decisions. To prove that the most-dreaded curse is a ploy to ground critics.

My contribution is proving that I read the Bible too and the knowledge that you imagine to master is equally accessible to me. I match you scripture for scripture and exegesis for exegesis.

My pastor is Christ. He is the greatest teacher the world would ever know. The Bible asserts that I am standing on tge shoulders of his apostles not some claimants who cannot prove his apostolic vocation by works visible to man and to God.

None of Jesus apostle or Jesus himself paraded the streets questioning strangers if they were born again. You hypocrites shove born again down people's throat with your cloaks and regalia to garner adulation and unearned glory.

The intent of your questions is clear to me. To categorise me and box me in a repository. You are looking for weapons to stabs me with. If truly you were godly, you would rather focus on the points that I have mentioned, admitted to being fallible and thank me for citing the changes that must be made.

If I can see this, why can't you, the one claiming to have spiritual discernment? You do not consider me godly at all, but why can't you admit that I am telling you the deep truth that even your discernment fidgets to comprehend.

I told you that I am just beginning. I perceive you are a straight shooter and a chaser. The only reason why you would back down on me is because the stratosphere of my connaissance is explosively enormous for you to handle.

I am making my points and you are pivoting. You can't win me over by being evasive. I have regular talks with your ilks here and expose them to the point where their violence manifest. I know the ground that I am standing and my current angle is to meet you on a common ground where what I'm bringing is best known by you. Sorry that it hits you hard, but the deeper we go, the higher the wavelength of my expository current.

Answer me, why do all pastors have wives when Paul recommended that it is BETTER to BE SINGLE?

Why do all top pastors retain their wealth when Jesus advised a rich man to give his wealth away? And, the man was not even a teacher of the word.

Why do pastors have ARMED security men when Jesus told them that they will be killed?

Why hasn't any top pastor been persecuted, thrown to prison, killed in the manner thay Jesus and HIS apostles patterned? Or, did Jesus lie when he said that these things would happen?

Jesus had nowhere to lay his head. However, where does your pastor lay his head? On gold-plated exquisite luxury. You must be really blind not to understand this.

The gift of the holy is given differently to individuals. However one pastor is a minister, a healer, a teacher, a money keeper, a church representative before politicians, a campaigner for politicians, an author, a publisher, the HEAD OF HIS CHURCH etc. Hasn't that pastor made himself the holy spirit already. What is left for the holy spirit to share? He assumes all the gifts.

If I ask you who is the head of the RCCG, the answer that the average man will give is Adeboye. Likewise Chosen, Lazarus. Likewise winners, Oyedepo. But the Bible says that Christ is the head. Google what I just wrote and verify for yourself. And, they are 100% right. Why? Because the church truly belongs to these individuals and not Christ.

They have assumed the place of Jesus and rather than directing people to Jesus, they direct them to their ever abounding storehouse for tithing and offering booths. Broad Daylight rogues.

Timothy forfeited schooling in Athen, the best of education at the time to focus on serving God. However, all the children of your pastors are sent to school abroad and in the best of educational institutions. Who are you deceiving?

Tell me why a GO pastor would gift a house to his pastor, (note: his pastor, not the pastor of Christ) when Jesus said that those on the house top should run and leave everything behind.

Listen to all the top pastors refer to the pastors in their churches as MY PASTOR. Rightly so, they are his pastors not pastor of Christ. Ask Lazarus how many pastors HE HAS, he will not decode that he is being haughty and snatching away God's sheep. Even with their so-called spirit of discernment, they cannot understand.

It will be a long smear of fecal matters on your face as long as this continues. I await your chastised heart to feel contrite and humble. Do not look at attcking me. Focus on the message and ponder over it.

I'm an atheist but I won't lie, you're the only Christian I've met on the nairaland that argues with logic. You asked that fellow to prove some points nd being the sentimentalists that he is, he started attacking you. I hate when people do that in any argument.

All these foolish xtians that worship their so called MOG instead of actually reading their bible.

Jesus greatest command was love your neighbor as yourself, but all these holier than thou xtians have turned Christianity to something else.

Ken4Christ:

Every believer does not need to be persecuted the way the early church was. Even the early church had rest from persecution at a certain time. The scripture says;

Acts 9:31 Then HAD THE CHURCHES REST throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.

So, God has given the churches in Nigeria rest.

David fought war throughout his reign as a King but Solomon his son had rest.

So, the story must not be the same. But there are some parts of the world that Christians are being persecuted right now. Even Christians are going through persecutions in some part of the north.

Oh, so you agree that every Christian must not be persecuted? Kindly 2 Timothy 3:12

Isn't it a coincidence that ALL the top pastors escape persecution AT THE SAME TIME, while ALL the apostles didn't. And, you claim that they serve the same God that inspired 2 Timothy 3:12?

Could the God who gave Nigeria rest have sent his son to teach Matthew 24:9? The God who gave the Christians rest in Judea is the same one that allowed the Romans to invade in a few years. But, since the Pentecostal churches sprung in Nigeria, this rest hasn't ceased for one day.

The Christians in the north that you use as props for your pastors, why aren't they made G.Os in your churches since the Bible says that persecution refines Christian?

You don't even know the church that they associate with. You have never asked them if they are born again the way you asked and judged me. You simply use them as props and statistics.

Did you ask if those persecuted in the north are T.B Joshua members? Since it aids your argument, you spread your collective blankets and called them Christians.

In all honesty if they were T.B Joshua members or Jehovah's witnesses, you wouldn't care one bit if they are incinerated. All you need is to use the blacket terminology in order to prove a void argument.

If Christians are persecuted in the north, where are the schools and homes that Lazarus, Oyedepo and Adeboye built to show hospitality to them since Jesus asked them to flee to the neighbouring lands when persecuted?

The private jets of your luxury pastors could have been used to evacuate the said Christians. At least, we read of stephen being martyred but why aint your church publishing tbe names of those kied in the north?

Does Leke even know the number of Christians killed in the north?

Ken4Christ:


1st Corinthians 2:14 But the NATURAL MAN receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned

The above verse of scripture is the reason I demanded if you are born again. Otherwise, you will never understand whatever I will explain to you. It takes a spiritual man to grasp spiritual truth. Please, tell me. Are you born again? Have you been baptized with the Holy Spirit? If not, I can guide you on how to be saved and receive the most precious gift of God which is the Holy Spirit.

you are a spiritual fool. The devil is riding a cowgirl in your spiritual mind.

suicidesheep:


I'm an atheist but I won't lie, you're the only Christian I've met on the nairaland that argues with logic. You asked that fellow to prove some points nd being the sentimentalists that he is, he started attacking you. I hate when people do that in any argument.

All these foolish xtians that worship their so called MOG instead of actually reading their bible.

Jesus greatest command was love your neighbor as yourself, but all these holier than thou xtians have turned Christianity to something else.

Thank you bro for catching that Fox and their hypocrisy. The Bible is clear on many issues. They are the ones twisting it to gain power and control over weak minds. He has not been able to provide one single answer to all my questions. And, he has been on Nairaland for years deluding people.

Just imagine the kind of religious leaders we have.

suicidesheep:


I swear, its always one stupid excuse or the other, I dont l dont how someone can be foolishly blind in this era

Hahahaha.. Na so

Sixfiguresmart:
you are a spiritual fool. The devil is riding a cowgirl in your spiritual mind.

These people are demented, they an never understand what u are saying. Theve been brainwashed to think that common Bible literature that thier pastors cannot understand must be spiritually explained. Lol

Sixfiguresmart:
Oh, so you agree that every Christian must not be persecuted? Kindly 2 Timothy 3:12

Isn't it a coincidence that ALL the top pastors escape persecution AT THE SAME TIME, while ALL the apostles didn't. And, you claim that they serve the same God that inspired 2 Timothy 3:12?

Could the God who gave Nigeria rest have sent his son to teach Matthew 24:9? The God who gave the Christians rest in Judea is the same one that allowed the Romans to invade in a few years. But, since the Pentecostal churches sprung in Nigeria, this rest hasn't ceased for one day.

The Christians in the north that you use as props for your pastors, why aren't they made G.Os in your churches since the Bible says that persecution refines Christian?

You don't even know the church that they associate with. You have never asked them if they are born again the way you asked and judged me. You simply use them as props and statistics.

Did you ask if those persecuted in the north are T.B Joshua members? Since it aids your argument, you spread your collective blankets and called them Christians.

In all honesty if they were T.B Joshua members or Jehovah's witnesses, you wouldn't care one bit if they are incinerated. All you need is to use the blacket terminology in order to prove a void argument.

If Christians are persecuted in the north, where are the schools and homes that Lazarus, Oyedepo and Adeboye built to show hospitality to them since Jesus asked them to flee to the neighbouring lands when persecuted?

The private jets of your luxury pastors could have been used to evacuate the said Christians. At least, we read of stephen being martyred but why aint your church publishing tbe names of those kied in the north?

Does Leke even know the number of Christians killed in the north?

Your understanding of scripture is top notch. These brainwashed folks cannot grasp what u are saying. Nigerian version of Christianity is a scam. When they are boxed to a corner and they lack scriptural proof for thier false doctrine.. They start asking u if u r born again.. Or the carnal mind cannot grasp the things of the spirit etc.. Meanwhile they donot even know what being Born again is. They think it means going for 'altar call' or having a jet throting charlatan as a papa(whilst dey trek) . It's the christ Embassy fools I pity most..