Maynman:

She is a bitter woman.

I've always thought he's a guy. Is kobojumkie a woman?

TenQ:
Proverbs 3:5-6
5Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding; 6in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight

This is how I met and married my husband in 1 month. We are both Christians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZjrSDXX-w

TenQ:

I agree perfectly with you on these. Unfortunately, instead of having a Serious Courtship , young people do boy-friend and girl-friend.


I laughed so hard on your quote above. Deeper life member and Christ Embassy members could both be serious Christians. But doctrinally, they are oil and water. They must clash on several issues.

This is a new thread that can be opened.

Shalom

Sure.

Boyfriend and girlfriend in the church this days are common because most pastors no longer teach on morals so they can have the crowd. It's quite unfortunate.

Facts are sacred,opinions are free cheap talks.
A GOOD WIFE IS A GOOD FORTUNE AND SHE IS FAVOUR FROM THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. YOU MUST KEEP PRSYING TO GOD TO KNOW AS SOON AS YOU ARE EQUIPED TO MARRY. IT is not about Orobo or Lekpa or yellow sisi or beauty queen.

TenQ:
1. You should have found out how many of those Christians with bad marriages followed the principles outlined.

2. A Medical personel who has vitamin deficiency should not blame the medical profession or knowledge but his own disregard for such knowledge. So it is with marriage amongst Christians

3. I've asked you to fault each of the guidelines stated

1. God's simple principle to all men is that marriage is an agreement between a man and a woman... that is all that God ever told individuals as far as what to do with marriage.

As for your principles, so many churchians cling like as though gold better than God's simple formulae. They submit themselves to the will of your church marriage committees and millions of them go as far as to marry from only within the same church group they belong to, and embark on raising even their children in the same environment they were themselves indoctrination into so they can, by following your principles, raise what they refer to as "godly" children.

All that yet compared to the world, Churchians do not rank any different from the world were marital problems are concerned. Meaning following all of the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ said were nothing but lies, indeed do not bring you anywhere closer to God in anyway or form - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13

2. There is no vitamin deficiency issue here. Simply denial of your part as you seem all too quick to throw under the bus those Churchians who followed your churchian rules only to stil end up in failed marriages. You all glorify marriage almost to point you believe it opens the door to Heaven itself to you. So understandably, hearing that God Himself rendered it unholy even before you lot got a chance at it is quote a shock..., I get it!

3. I already did. They are none of them of God. That is the one and only fault that matters.

TenQ:
1. If nothing is spiritual about marriage, why is adultery a sin?

2. If nothing is spiritual about marriage, why did Jesus say a divorced woman who remarried commited adultery against her first husband?

3. If marriage is not spiritual, why is it that having sex with a harlot makes one one with a harlot?

4. If marriage is not spiritual, how is Jesus mathematics logical as He said: "the two become one flesh"?

5. Marriage is a legal, physical and spiritual union of a man and woman who decide to live together as FAMILY!

1. Did you know that even those who are single and also believe can and do commit adultery against God - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28?

Adultery is a sin because God says so. It is as simple as that.

2. Even the verse you previously quoted in no way suggests what you claim. As I already stated before, in the Kingdom of God , sin is disobedience against God, not men.

3. God did not say having sex with a harlot makes you one with a harlot. He instead said marriage is an agreement between a man and a woman and the two become one when they are joined. If you do not have an agreement with the harlot to becoming man and wife how can you become one with her by having sec with her?

Jesus Christ never said that either. You should stop confusing the doctrines and traditions of your pastors and mogs with God's word abeg.

4. Most of you don't even bother to pay attention to the message revealed to you in context, you pick and run with whatever you like without careful thought. What Jesus Christ said of two becoming one, He revealed was God's design for marriage in the beginning- Genesis 2 vs 24 - and in that same He explained that it is two becoming one flesh, not spirit. Flesh and Spirit are not one and the same -
never have and never will be! So again, there's nothing Spiritual about marriage.

Also, the beginning that Jesus Christ spoke of ended in Genesis 3 vs 16 when God cursed marriage, rendering it unholy as a result.

5. Again, there is nothing Spiritual about your marriages, not according to God Himself, and certainly not according to Jesus Christ.

TenQ:

Don't mind kobojunkie.
He has a warped understanding of the bible.
▪︎His old testament is only for the sons of Jacob.
▪︎His new testament stops at the book of John.
▪︎His doctrines are uniquely his alone and even very simple doctrinal issues are as twisted as his mind!

No need to reduce yourself to this.

All you have to do is go back and prove me wrong by showing that God didn't in fact say any of what I claim.

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Regarding your earlier claim that sleeping with a harlot makes you one with a harlot. Guess what, even in God's Old Law, that claim is not born of Truth. In Deuteronomy 22 vs 28 - 29, it is written that a rapist who rapes a woman should be forced to marry her afterwards.

If marriage is simply the union of two bodies in sex, then surely God wouldn't have had to ask that the rapist be forced to marry his victim, or would He?

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Jesus Christ warned His followers against submitting themselves to the doctrines and traditions(rules) of men(and their churches) , lies, which only serve to distance them from the Truth of God and renders their worship of God of no meaning - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

PARADIZEPRIEST:
Facts are sacred,opinions are free cheap talks.
A GOOD WIFE IS A GOOD FORTUNE AND SHE IS FAVOUR FROM THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. YOU MUST KEEP PRSYING TO GOD TO KNOW AS SOON AS YOU ARE EQUIPED TO MARRY. IT is not about Orobo or Lekpa or yellow sisi or beauty queen.

Proverbs 18 vs 22 says nothing of a good wife. Instead it ways, " he who finds a wife, finds a good thing", but even a fool with eyes know that statement is for from true.

TenQ:

I'm sorry for you bro!

Sorry for your diluted self.

Meanwhile, I am not in any way your brother

Kobojunkie:
Proverbs 18 vs 22 says nothing of a good wife. Instead it ways, " he who finds a wife, finds a good thing", but even a fool with eyes know that statement is for from true.

The bible is indeed confused

exCHRISTIAN:
The bible is indeed confused

The Bible isn't confused here. It is instead the reader that is confused here this because the reader assumes all that is written is truth when scripture never in fact hints at this being the case.

exCHRISTIAN:


Sorry for your diluted self.

Meanwhile, I am not in any way your brother

Simple English comprehension!
I never said you were my brother!

Kobojunkie:
No need to reduce yourself to this.

All you have to do is go back and prove me wrong by showing that God didn't in fact say any of what I claim.

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Regarding your earlier claim that sleeping with a harlot makes you one with a harlot. Guess what, even in God's Old Law, that claim is not born of Truth. In Deuteronomy 22 vs 28 - 29, it is written that a rapist who rapes a woman should be forced to marry her afterwards.

If marriage is simply the union of two bodies in sex, then surely God wouldn't have had to ask that the rapist be forced to marry his victim, or would He?

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Jesus Christ warned His followers against submitting themselves to the doctrines and traditions(rules) of men(and their churches) , lies, which only serve to distance them from the Truth of God and renders their worship of God of no meaning - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13.

Still your warped understanding!

Kobojunkie:
1. Did you know that even those who are single and also believe can and do commit adultery against God - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28?

Adultery is a sin because God says so. It is as simple as that.

2. Even the verse you previously quoted in no way suggests what you claim. As I already stated before, in the Kingdom of God , sin is disobedience against God, not men.

3. God did not say having sex with a harlot makes you one with a harlot. He instead said marriage is an agreement between a man and a woman and the two become one when they are joined. If you do not have an agreement with the harlot to becoming man and wife how can you become one with her by having sec with her?

Jesus Christ never said that either. You should stop confusing the doctrines and traditions of your pastors and mogs with God's word abeg.

4. Most of you don't even bother to pay attention to the message revealed to you in context, you pick and run with whatever you like without careful thought. What Jesus Christ said of two becoming one, He revealed was God's design for marriage in the beginning- Genesis 2 vs 24 - and in that same He explained that it is two becoming one flesh, not spirit. Flesh and Spirit are not one and the same -
never have and never will be! So again, there's nothing Spiritual about marriage.

Also, the beginning that Jesus Christ spoke of ended in Genesis 3 vs 16 when God cursed marriage, rendering it unholy as a result.

5. Again, there is nothing Spiritual about your marriages, not according to God Himself, and certainly not according to Jesus Christ.

Only you can see how God cursed marriage!
I tire for you o!

Kobojunkie:
1. God's simple principle to all men is that marriage is an agreement between a man and a woman... that is all that God ever told individuals as far as what to do with marriage.

As for your principles, so many churchians cling like as though gold better than God's simple formulae. They submit themselves to the will of your church marriage committees and millions of them go as far as to marry from only within the same church group they belong to, and embark on raising even their children in the same environment they were themselves indoctrination into so they can, by following your principles, raise what they refer to as "godly" children.

All that yet compared to the world, Churchians do not rank any different from the world were marital problems are concerned. Meaning following all of the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ said were nothing but lies, indeed do not bring you anywhere closer to God in anyway or form - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13

2. There is no vitamin deficiency issue here. Simply denial of your part as you seem all too quick to throw under the bus those Churchians who followed your churchian rules only to stil end up in failed marriages. You all glorify marriage almost to point you believe it opens the door to Heaven itself to you. So understandably, hearing that God Himself rendered it unholy even before you lot got a chance at it is quote a shock..., I get it!

3. I already did. They are none of them of God. That is the one and only fault that matters.

So sorry to hear these from you. How you read the bible, only you can understand!

Ken4Christ:


Sure.

Boyfriend and girlfriend in the church this days are common because most pastors no longer teach on morals so they can have the crowd. It's quite unfortunate.

It's amazing when you see an intending couple who have dated for five years and have no clear understanding of how they have designed their home to be. We come across that a lot. We've also met a fewer number of couples who are serious about their marital future and are consciously working towards attaining it.

Let's pray that our pastors will do the needful.

TenQ:

Only you can see how God cursed marriage!
I tire for you o!

Marriage, according to Genesis 2 vs 24 is simply an agreement between a man and woman to become husband and wife(marriage). The very same husband and wife on whom the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 is placed on by God..

You(wife) will want your husband very much,
    but he(husband) will rule over you(wife).” - Genesis 3 vs 16b

Implicated are the very same husband and wife(one) that is a marriage.

God didn't place that curse on single women or single men in that instance, but on men and women in marriage(husband and wife) .I.e. on marriage itself.

TenQ:

Still your warped understanding!

An understanding you find yourself unable to rebut?,

TenQ:

So sorry to hear these from you. How you read the bible, only you can understand!

This isn't about how I read the Bible since the book is meant to be read exactly the way you would every other book out there written by human hands.

PastorMIsBack:


This is how I met and married my husband in 1 month. We are both Christians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZjrSDXX-w

Are you this Tina on YouTube?

If you are, your testimony is an exceptional case. Normally, I recommend not less than six months of courtship before marriage. I also recommend some form of extended marriage counseling before marriage.

In your case (if this is you), You were both most likely of age and God saw the sincerity of your hearts. God therefore arranged a miracle. Your case is an exception.

Happy married life sis!

Kobojunkie:
Marriage, according to Genesis 2 vs 24 is simply an agreement between a man and woman to become husband and wife(marriage). The very same husband and wife on whom the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 is placed on by God..
Implicated are the very same husband and wife(one) that is a marriage.

God didn't place that curse on single women or single men in that instance, but on men and women in marriage(husband and wife) .I.e. on marriage itself.

God cursed the Serpent
God cursed the Earth
God cursed the Woman
God cursed the Man

Where exactly did God curse marriage?

TenQ:

God cursed the Serpent
God cursed the Earth
God cursed the Woman
God cursed the Man

Where exactly did God curse marriage?

Again.. the specifics of God's curse reveals the Truth behind His curse.

Marriage, according to Genesis 2 vs 24 is simply an agreement between a man and woman to become husband and wife(marriage). The very same husband and wife on whom the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 is placed on by God..

You(wife) will want your husband very much,
    but he(husband) will rule over you(wife).” - Genesis 3 vs 16b

Implicated are the very same husband and wife(one) that is a marriage.

God didn't place that curse on single women or single men, but on men and women in marriage(husband and wife) .I.e. on marriage itself.

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God cursed childbearing, God cursed marriage, God cursed the works of man's hands, and then God cursed man's time on earth. All this resulting in all becoming unholy as a result.

Kobojunkie:
Again.. the specifics of God's curse reveals the Truth behind His curse.

Marriage, according to Genesis 2 vs 24 is simply an agreement between a man and woman to become husband and wife(marriage). The very same husband and wife on whom the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 is placed on by God..
Implicated are the very same husband and wife(one) that is a marriage.

God didn't place that curse on single women or single men, but on men and women in marriage(husband and wife) .I.e. on marriage itself.

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God cursed childbearing, God cursed marriage, God cursed the works of man's hands, and then God cursed man's time on earth. All this resulting in all becoming unholy as a result.

Too simple, just show me where God cursed marriage in the bible.
SMH!

TenQ:

Too simple, just show me where God cursed marriage in the bible.
SMH!

Again.....Marriage, according to Genesis 2 vs 24 is simply an agreement between a man and woman to become husband and wife(marriage). The very same husband and wife on whom the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 is placed on by God..

You(wife) will want your husband very much,
    but he(husband) will rule over you(wife).” - Genesis 3 vs 16b

Implicated are the very same husband and wife(one) that is a marriage.

God didn't place that curse on single women or single men, but on men and women in marriage(husband and wife) .I.e. on marriage itself.

Kobojunkie:
Again.....Marriage, according to Genesis 2 vs 24 is simply an agreement between a man and woman to become husband and wife(marriage). The very same husband and wife on whom the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 is placed on by God..
Implicated are the very same husband and wife(one) that is a marriage.

God didn't place that curse on single women or single men, but on men and women in marriage(husband and wife) .I.e. on marriage itself.

You are repeating the same thing like a broken record. I said, show me the scripture where God cursed marriage!
SIMPLE!!

TenQ:

You are repeating the same thing like a broken record. I said, show me the scripture where God cursed marriage!
SIMPLE!!

I see what you are doing then!

TenQ:
God cursed the Serpent God cursed the Earth God cursed the Woman God cursed the Man
Where exactly did God curse marriage?

Noteworthy.

Kobojunkie:
I see what you are doing then!

Yes, bringing out your false doctrine that is unsupported by scriptures.

Where did God say He cursed marriage?

Christian Extremism & Intolerance In Yorùbáland Didn't Start Today .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bve3plFOYqE

They have long history of disobeying authority

TenQ:

Yes, bringing out your false doctrine that is unsupported by scriptures.

Where did God say He cursed marriage?

Again... . I see what you are doing.

Kobojunkie:
Again... . I see what you are doing.

Now that you know

I am, bringing out your false doctrine that is unsupported by scriptures.

Where did God say He cursed marriage?

TenQ:

Now that you know

I am, bringing out your false doctrine that is unsupported by scriptures.

Where did God say He cursed marriage?

I already said I see what you are doing.