Hello People, i believe this is the right section for this. I have once visited some voodoo priests in past and they seem to have one thing in common. They bring out some fetish things and they start forecasting your destiny.

My Question : Do they really hear from the gods ?

cofta:
Hello People, i believe this is the right section for this. I have once visited some voodoo priests in past and they seem to have one thing in common. They bring out some fetish things and they start forecasting your destiny.

My Question : Do they really hear from the gods ?

Why not direct your questions there way? How can we know these things for them?,

Go do some researching and come let us know your findings abeg.

cofta:
Hello People, i believe this is the right section for this. I have once visited some voodoo priests in past and they seem to have one thing in common. They bring out some fetish things and they start forecasting your destiny.

My Question : Do they really hear from the gods ?

The use of divination is common to all humanity. In the bible too they use Umin and Thummin and they also use casting of lots wella wella.

This is different from mediumship where you supposedly hear directly from god. The ‘fetish things’ they bring out are interpreted according to some rules.

It might help to check out Jung’s theory of synchronicity.

Yes they hear from their idols, that's why they may give accurate messages, but whoever visits such mediums is taking a risk. If something isn't stolen from the person, then the person may go back home with familiar spirits.

There is a difference between medium and divination.

LilMissFavvy:
Yes they hear from their idols, that's why they may give accurate messages, but whoever visits such mediums is taking a risk. If something isn't stolen from the person, then the person may go back home with familiar spirits.

Have you been involved? What is the extent of your involvement. Did you carry familiar spirits with you back home? Do you still have your familiar spirits?

@OP. Yes they do . But Let me try to break it down ......

The Two Most common Method for this are,

The Land Witches and spirits
The Marine Spirit

For You to be able to communicate using the Land Witches, You have to cast the spell and this is what most native doctors have done before setting a place for the spirit to dwell which you see mostly as the shrine. There two kinds of Land spirits that passes information to them. The roaming spirits and stagnant ones. Most of them possess the stagnant ones which is mostly present in the them and also in the idol. The Roaming one moves around with the one that cast it . One of the requirement needed to cast this spell from my place is the wrapper of a dead witch above 70yrs. In some places, you need a new born baby . Some of the native doctors climb higher in hierarchy by sacrificing a baby girl not more than 2 yrs . Some of them pledge their children to the spirit and they all die in a mysterious way.

The Marine spirit is the most difficult of all process and it involves initiation into the marine world. Mostly the first order and they usually do not go above that but there is a price for the first order. You see some native doctors with rings on their legs on their legs. some have 6 rings and the number of rings shows the number of orders in the marine kingdom. For them to hear directly from the marine world, they have to belong to the 1st order and pledge their loyalty to the order.

In Delta state, you see the marine initiates all over the place and they are usually called igbe. A native doctor can also possess the marine power and land spirit but the land spirit has to be the stagnant one. The native doctor has to take the idol of the and spirit to a different place as they cannot stay together with the marine altar. When you visit a native doctor, you will see a table covered with a white clothe, a white basin, flowers , powders, baby dolls and the native doctor puts on rings on his legs, then he has paid the price for the first order which is normally an unborn child.

Please stay away from those places, your destiny can be given to the highest bidder.

Not all of them truly hear from 'gods' as some are fake (guy man).

Few who give slightly accurate info or prediction are either working based on channeling or divination.

Channeling is a process of getting info from an ethereal entity and acting as an outlet for the physical plane which we are.

Divination is like a form of laid down rules or formulas that are likened to the circumstances surrounding a being to give certain information about that said being after the process or technique has been deployed.


IMHO, Channeling is more solid as the entities (main sources) involved are from astral planes (angels, demons, ghosts, servitors,etc) and requires lots of cautions and precautions as some of them are volatile and cunning.

Let me stop here...

Read and digest what saynoto'cultism' wrote here, he took time to explain.

No, i have never been involved in such things.

There are ways to know things without being involved in it.

Are you trying to say that these things are Godly?

Bible condemns casting lots, and use of these mediums. I am unable to understand if you are trying to insult' me oga .

PastorAIO:


Have you been involved? What is the extent of your involvement. Did you carry familiar spirits with you back home? Do you still have your familiar spirits?

You are anti-christian. I just noticed the type of threads you create.

PastorAIO:
There is a difference between medium and divination.

LilMissFavvy:
You are anti-christian. I just noticed the type of threads you create.

The fact remains, there is a difference between divination and mediumship.

If you take a closer look at the types of threads I create you'll realise that I'm actually Anti-Satan, anti-hypocrites, and anti-liars. If you can avoid these traits you'll have nothing to fear from me.

You and the cult guy have come with quite an elaborate scheme of land spirits marine spirits and all what not. Simple request of how you arrived at this knowledge and you start to chew your teeth and accuse me of being anti-christian. Were you and your cult friend lying when you made your posts or is there a real foundation to the theories you espouse?

It is not an insult. I’m just keen to know how you ( and now saynotocultism ) arrived at your knowledge.

You say there are ways to know things without getting involved. Fair enough. Explain the way you came to know these things without getting involved.

Please where in the bible is the casting of lots condemned. In my bible it says that it is the Will of God. That's how we know God's will.

Proverbs 16:33

33The lot is cast into the lap,
but its every decision is from the LORD.


There is a comprehensive list of all the mentions of Lots in the bible in Wikipedia, under the chapter of Cleromancy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleromancy

Casting of lots is mentioned 47 times in the Bible. Some examples in the Hebrew Bible of the casting of lots as a means of determining God's will:

In the Book of Leviticus 16:8, God commanded Moses, "And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat."
According to Numbers 26:55, Moses allocated territory to the tribes of Israel according to each tribe's male population and by lot.
In Joshua 7:14, a guilty party (Achan) is found by lot.
In the Book of Joshua 18:6, Joshua says, "Ye shall therefore describe the land into seven parts, and bring the description hither to me, that I may cast lots for you here before the LORD our God." The Hebrews took this action in order to know God's will as to the dividing of land between the seven tribes of Israel who had not yet "received their inheritance". (Joshua 18:2).

LilMissFavvy:

Read and digest what saynoto'cultism' wrote here, he took time to explain.

No, i have never been involved in such things.

There are ways to know things without being involved in it.

Are you trying to say that these things are Godly?

Bible condemns casting lots, and use of these mediums. I am unable to understand if you are trying to insult' me oga .

Ultracrepidarian
ultracrepidarian
Definition: one who is presumptuous and offers advice or opinions beyond one’s sphere of knowledge

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/polite-words-for-impolite-people/ultracrepidarian

Casting lots was used mostly in the old testament, before Christ's death/resurection. Of course after Christ's death/resurection, there were a lot of changes in how things were done. I agree that casting lots is found in very many verses in the old testament. The disciples did not receive the holy ghost baptism during the time they cast lots to chose Mathias. As at that time Jesus only promised them that he will baptise them with the holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, so that the holy spirit will be teaching them what they need to know and give answers to their enquiries ( Acts 1:4- 8 ). Thereafter, the disciples did not cast lots again, I stand to be corrected.

As a Christian, why would you need to cast lots when the holy Spirit can tell you whatever you need to know? Look at the picture the OP used as emphasis, and tell me if anything concernining God can be done in that place.

You can remember how Saul fell out of grace with God when he consulted a medium, so it always good to avoid mediums. Casting lots is done by most mediums, so better to avoid it. I do not believe that a genuine pastor would cast lots to enquire from God in our world of today, what do you think? Can a genuine pastor do it?

PastorAIO:
It is not an insult. I’m just keen to know how you ( and now saynotocultism ) arrived at your knowledge.

You say there are ways to know things without getting involved. Fair enough. Explain the way you came to know these things without getting involved.

Please where in the bible is the casting of lots condemned. In my bible it says that it is the Will of God. That's how we know God's will.

Proverbs 16:33

33The lot is cast into the lap,
but its every decision is from the LORD.


There is a comprehensive list of all the mentions of Lots in the bible in Wikipedia, under the chapter of Cleromancy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleromancy

Ultracrepidarian? Joker. Anyway, was thinking you were anti Christian when I saw your thread about Corona virus.

II will delete this particular comment, don't quote it. I like to keep my spiritual life private. I just wanted to explain to you ways people can find out things, God almighty already gave us the power/grace. Seek and ye shall find.

I will drop the concluding part of the story about the MOG, ie how I also had a physical confirmation of what the holy Spirit told me that night, though I don't know if that part is important. Hopefully, I have been able to answer your question on how I know these things.

PastorAIO:
Ultracrepidarian
ultracrepidarian
Definition: one who is presumptuous and offers advice or opinions beyond one’s sphere of knowledge

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/polite-words-for-impolite-people/ultracrepidarian

Your tune has changed here. You even changed genre, you went from hip hop and now you are on reggae. At least we can now conclude that Bible did not condemn casting of lots as you said:

Bible condemns casting lots, and use of these mediums. I am unable to understand if you are trying to insult' me oga undecided.

Now you continue to damn divination because you say after the election of Matthias it was not mentioned again. However the fact that it is not mentioned in the bible does not mean that they didn't still practice it and that Churches of the Apostolic traditions don't still practice it.

There has always been a spiritual way to get divine messages, not just through divination. That is what Prophecy is all about. Prophecy didn't start after pentecost. In fact every thing that happened in pentecost had already happened before. The claim, as I understand it, is that magnitude of the outpouring of spirit would increase. So even those not considered prophets would prophecy.

"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams."
This prophecy of Joel's was used in Acts as the explanation of what went on in Pentecost. It wasn't the first time people dreamed or prophesied. The only difference was that it was being poured out on all flesh.

Despite the fact that some messages were given directly from yhwh by his prophets did not stop the fact that divination tools were used too.

1Samuel 28:6

And when Saul inquired of the LORD, the LORD did not answer him, either by dreams, or by Urim, or by prophets.


The Urim and the Thummin were the chief divination tools that the Hebrews used and they used them at the same time they were also consulting prophets and interpreting dreams.


Now the OP asked whether these gadgets that the priests used to tell his future meant that they were hearing from God. I, and Tenshades, explained that these are two very separate things. Channeling spirits is totally different from using divination tools. When you channel, you go into a trance, yet when you use divining tools your very much alert and your brain is working to interpret the outcome of the divination. You don't have to go in a trance or even be initiated. For example, with Ifa, anybody that has the intelligence and the perception for pattern recognition can interpret Ifa. It is very much brain work as opposed to spirit work.

LilMissFavvy:
Casting lots was used mostly in the old testament, before Christ's death/resurection. Of course after Christ's death/resurection, there were a lot of changes in how things were done. I agree that casting lots is found in very many verses in the old testament. The disciples did not receive the holy ghost baptism during the time they cast lots to chose Mathias. As at that time Jesus only promised them that he will baptise them with the holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, so that the holy spirit will be teaching them what they need to know and give answers to their enquiries ( Acts 1:4- 8 ). Thereafter, the disciples did not cast lots again, I stand to be corrected.

As a Christian, why would you need to cast lots when the holy Spirit can tell you whatever you need to know? Look at the picture the OP used as emphasis, and tell me if anything concernining God can be done in that place.

You can remember how Saul fell out of grace with God when he consulted a medium, so it always good to avoid mediums. Casting lots is done by most mediums, so better to avoid it. I do not believe that a genuine pastor would cast lots to enquire from God in our world of today, what do you think? Can a genuine pastor do it?

LilMissFavvy:
Ultracrepidarian? Joker. Anyway, was thinking you were anti Christian when I saw your thread about Corona virus.

There is a woman on Twitter called Susie Dent. Everyday she posts a new 'word of the day'. Usually obscure words from the 19th century. Ultracrepidarian was the word of the day when we started talking. I relished the chance to put it to use.

What Jesus poured out is what genuine believers should seek, and not casting lots. Jesus already poured out his spirit which is enough. Casting of lots was not practiced in the new testament.

You said anybody with wisdom, can interprete ifa? But I say to you, that whoever subjects himself to interpret Ifa, has already submitted himself to another "god" for use, and is not of God almighty.

Not everything that happened on the day of Pentecost had already happened in the past.
As far as I'm concerned, casting lots in world of today is not of God, and should not encouraged for believers to practice.

PastorAIO:

Your tune has changed here. You even changed genre, you went from hip hop and now you are on reggae. At least we can now conclude that Bible did not condemn casting of lots as you said:


Now you continue to damn divination because you say after the election of Matthias it was not mentioned again. However the fact that it is not mentioned in the bible does not mean that they didn't still practice it and that Churches of the Apostolic traditions don't still practice it.

There has always been a spiritual way to get divine messages, not just through divination. That is what Prophecy is all about. Prophecy didn't start after pentecost. In fact every thing that happened in pentecost had already happened before. The claim, as I understand it, is that magnitude of the outpouring of spirit would increase. So even those not considered prophets would prophecy.

"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams."
This prophecy of Joel's was used in Acts as the explanation of what went on in Pentecost. It wasn't the first time people dreamed or prophesied. The only difference was that it was being poured out on all flesh.

Despite the fact that some messages were given directly from yhwh by his prophets did not stop the fact that divination tools were used too.

1Samuel 28:6

And when Saul inquired of the LORD, the LORD did not answer him, either by dreams, or by Urim, or by prophets.


The Urim and the Thummin were the chief divination tools that the Hebrews used and they used them at the same time they were also consulting prophets and interpreting dreams.


Now the OP asked whether these gadgets that the priests used to tell his future meant that they were hearing from God. I, and Tenshades, explained that these are two very separate things. Channeling spirits is totally different from using divination tools. When you channel, you go into a trance, yet when you use divining tools your very much alert and your brain is working to interpret the outcome of the divination. You don't have to go in a trance or even be initiated. For example, with Ifa, anybody that has the intelligence and the perception for pattern recognition can interpret Ifa. It is very much brain work as opposed to spirit work.

LilMissFavvy:
Casting lots was used mostly in the old testament, before Christ's death/resurection. Of course after Christ's death/resurection, there were a lot of changes in how things were done. I agree that casting lots is found in very many verses in the old testament. The disciples did not receive the holy ghost baptism during the time they cast lots to chose Mathias. As at that time Jesus only promised them that he will baptise them with the holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, so that the holy spirit will be teaching them what they need to know and give answers to their enquiries ( Acts 1:4- 8 ). Thereafter, the disciples did not cast lots again, I stand to be corrected.

Good.
Besides, I believe the casting of lot in this context (Acts1:26) is same as voting.

Exoticfarmer:

Good.
Besides, I believe the casting of lot in this context (Acts1:26) is same as voting.

You and LilMissFavvy may believe what ever you want to believe but the fact remains the same. We all know what casting of lots is. Don't let the truth stop you from believing what you feel you have to believe though.

LilMissFavvy:
Casting of lots was not practiced in the new testament.

This is a lie and you know it because you yourself have referenced the appointment of Matthias. Abi is that one not in the New Testament again?

LilMissFavvy:

You said anybody with wisdom, can interprete ifa?

I never said anybody with wisdom can interpret Ifa. I said if you were intelligent and had good pattern recognition skills.

Thereafter, the disciples did not cast lots again, I stand to be corrected

The Ultracrepidarian in you has started again o. How can you state so authoritatively that it didn't happen again? Were you there?

Is trinity mentioned in the bible? Yet I bet you believe in the trinity.

Since the Holy Spirit is teaching you all that you need to know, why do you bother to go to school? Why do you go and get legal advice, why do you seek medical advise. Why not just ask the holy spirit in you?

PastorAIO

1. You are just trying out some new words.
2. You seem to derive joy in kindling strife.
3. You seem to make many a feeble argument.
4. You speak with ignorance and nonchalance about the Holy Spirit.

For the above reasons, i don't think it's wise to throw words back n' forth with you. I may remain silent to your mentions on this topic hereafter, High probability ~ besides a Nairalander has already summarised the Truth for u. but you still argued.

I think you are correct...... '' and they gave forth their lots, and the lots fell on Mathias and he was numbered with the eleven apostles".

Exoticfarmer:

Good.
Besides, I believe the casting of lot in this context (Acts1:26) is same as voting.

LilMissFavvy:
I think you are correct...... '' and they gave forth their lots, and the lots fell on Mathias and he was numbered with the eleven apostles".

Exactly.

saynotocultism:
@OP. Yes they do . But Let me try to break it down ......

The Two Most common Method for this are,

The Land Witches and spirits
The Marine Spirit

For You to be able to communicate using the Land Witches, You have to cast the spell and this is what most native doctors have done before setting a place for the spirit to dwell which you see mostly as the shrine. There two kinds of Land spirits that passes information to them. The roaming spirits and stagnant ones. Most of them possess the stagnant ones which is mostly present in the them and also in the idol. The Roaming one moves around with the one that cast it . One of the requirement needed to cast this spell from my place is the wrapper of a dead witch above 70yrs. In some places, you need a new born baby . Some of the native doctors climb higher in hierarchy by sacrificing a baby girl not more than 2 yrs . Some of them pledge their children to the spirit and they all die in a mysterious way.

The Marine spirit is the most difficult of all process and it involves initiation into the marine world. Mostly the first order and they usually do not go above that but there is a price for the first order. You see some native doctors with rings on their legs on their legs. some have 6 rings and the number of rings shows the number of orders in the marine kingdom. For them to hear directly from the marine world, they have to belong to the 1st order and pledge their loyalty to the order.

In Delta state, you see the marine initiates all over the place and they are usually called igbe. A native doctor can also possess the marine power and land spirit but the land spirit has to be the stagnant one. The native doctor has to take the idol of the and spirit to a different place as they cannot stay together with the marine altar. When you visit a native doctor, you will see a table covered with a white clothe, a white basin, flowers , powders, baby dolls and the native doctor puts on rings on his legs, then he has paid the price for the first order which is normally an unborn child.

Please stay away from those places, your destiny can be given to the highest bidder.

How can I ever thank you enough. Thanks for the enlightenment.

PastorAIO:


The fact remains, there is a difference between divination and mediumship.

If you take a closer look at the types of threads I create you'll realise that I'm actually Anti-Satan, anti-hypocrites, and anti-liars. If you can avoid these traits you'll have nothing to fear from me.

You and the cult guy have come with quite an elaborate scheme of land spirits marine spirits and all what not. Simple request of how you arrived at this knowledge and you start to chew your teeth and accuse me of being anti-christian. Were you and your cult friend lying when you made your posts or is there a real foundation to the theories you espouse?

There's room for anyone to learn something new. The people I'm most uncomfortable with are people who don't have as much experience as you do but are more endowed with grammatical ability to confuse you that have been there. A man was a life time victim of the same topic (Divination), he was delivered.. became a walking encyclopaedia on the topic, now one alecky smart dude wants a biography as explanation. Anyway, after sampling opinions I have come to conclusion that ignorance is bliss when you have the right camouflage to cover it. Learn ! It's not that bad.

Good Morning Sir ,

I really do not have much to say regarding this as i do not want to start telling you stories. I have learnt not to argue but give you experience. Do you remember this christian song ?

Them get eyes but them no dey see
Them get ears but them no dey hear
See their mouth oo. but them no dey talk
I will never worship Man Made God...Man Made God

I want to do this for you and prove you wrong. Ever since i encountered christ, i have stayed away from things like but i will prove you wrong. Now this is what you are going to do .

I dont know your location but if you can get to delta state, warri, then let me know on this thread. There is a community close to Ughelli that i want you to visit. I will call the man that you are coming and instruct him to Open his personal Altar for you. He is a Native doctor and be belongs to 3 orders in the marine world.

We will update this thread picture by Picture

Picture of you on your way
Picture of you in warri
Picture of you in the community
Picture of you in the Mans Place
Video of you in the altar

As you upload pictures of of your current location, i will give you the address of your next location and i will update the address on this thread.

The Main aim is for me to prove to you that they actually hear from the gods and not just that, you will ALSO HEAR FROM THE gods. The gods will speak to you. You can take a photograph of someone down there and all you have to do is show the idol the photograph and he will tell you everything you need to know about the person. The spirit on that Idol was cast 90 years ago and he inherited it.

If you are ready for the challenge, please signal me asap.

PastorAIO:


The fact remains, there is a difference between divination and mediumship.

If you take a closer look at the types of threads I create you'll realise that I'm actually Anti-Satan, anti-hypocrites, and anti-liars. If you can avoid these traits you'll have nothing to fear from me.

You and the cult guy have come with quite an elaborate scheme of land spirits marine spirits and all what not. Simple request of how you arrived at this knowledge and you start to chew your teeth and accuse me of being anti-christian. Were you and your cult friend lying when you made your posts or is there a real foundation to the theories you espouse?

We no hear from you again oooo PastorAIO. Abi na Transport Fair you need? Just use am do excursion na

PastorAIO:


The fact remains, there is a difference between divination and mediumship.

If you take a closer look at the types of threads I create you'll realise that I'm actually Anti-Satan, anti-hypocrites, and anti-liars. If you can avoid these traits you'll have nothing to fear from me.

You and the cult guy have come with quite an elaborate scheme of land spirits marine spirits and all what not. Simple request of how you arrived at this knowledge and you start to chew your teeth and accuse me of being anti-christian. Were you and your cult friend lying when you made your posts or is there a real foundation to the theories you espouse?

saynotocultism:
Good Morning Sir ,

I really do not have much to say regarding this as i do not want to start telling you stories. I have learnt not to argue but give you experience. Do you remember this christian song ?

Them get eyes but them no dey see
Them get ears but them no dey hear
See their mouth oo. but them no dey talk
I will never worship Man Made God...Man Made God

I want to do this for you and prove you wrong. Ever since i encountered christ, i have stayed away from things like but i will prove you wrong. Now this is what you are going to do .

I dont know your location but if you can get to delta state, warri, then let me know on this thread. There is a community close to Ughelli that i want you to visit. I will call the man that you are coming and instruct him to Open his personal Altar for you. He is a Native doctor and be belongs to 3 orders in the marine world.

We will update this thread picture by Picture

Picture of you on your way
Picture of you in warri
Picture of you in the community
Picture of you in the Mans Place
Video of you in the altar

As you upload pictures of of your current location, i will give you the address of your next location and i will update the address on this thread.

The Main aim is for me to prove to you that they actually hear from the gods and not just that, you will ALSO HEAR FROM THE gods. The gods will speak to you. You can take a photograph of someone down there and all you have to do is show the idol the photograph and he will tell you everything you need to know about the person. The spirit on that Idol was cast 90 years ago and he inherited it.

If you are ready for the challenge, please signal me asap.

This things are very deeep...

When you try to explain... it makes no sense to the carnal mind...

I continue to thank God for you and EnthronedofGods life...

More strength and grace sir

cofta:
Hello People, i believe this is the right section for this. I have once visited some voodoo priests in past and they seem to have one thing in common. They bring out some fetish things and they start forecasting your destiny.

My Question : Do they really hear from the gods ?

you are dealing with devils. You should repent and believe in Jesus.

Totalitarian:
We no hear from you again oooo PastorAIO. Abi na Transport Fair you need? Just use am do excursion na

Oh boy, wetin I go talk again. Person wey no know me dey tell me say he get experience pass me. How do you answer that on line without sounding as foolish as the guy who said it. I've said what I need to say.


Okay, if you insist I go respond later.

saynotocultism:
Good Morning Sir ,

I really do not have much to say regarding this as i do not want to start telling you stories. I have learnt not to argue but give you experience. Do you remember this christian song ?

Them get eyes but them no dey see
Them get ears but them no dey hear
See their mouth oo. but them no dey talk
I will never worship Man Made God...Man Made God

I want to do this for you and prove you wrong. Ever since i encountered christ, i have stayed away from things like but i will prove you wrong. Now this is what you are going to do .

I dont know your location but if you can get to delta state, warri, then let me know on this thread. There is a community close to Ughelli that i want you to visit. I will call the man that you are coming and instruct him to Open his personal Altar for you. He is a Native doctor and be belongs to 3 orders in the marine world.

We will update this thread picture by Picture

Picture of you on your way
Picture of you in warri
Picture of you in the community
Picture of you in the Mans Place
Video of you in the altar

As you upload pictures of of your current location, i will give you the address of your next location and i will update the address on this thread.

The Main aim is for me to prove to you that they actually hear from the gods and not just that, you will ALSO HEAR FROM THE gods. The gods will speak to you. You can take a photograph of someone down there and all you have to do is show the idol the photograph and he will tell you everything you need to know about the person. The spirit on that Idol was cast 90 years ago and he inherited it.

If you are ready for the challenge, please signal me asap.

What i find funny is that you can't prove the existence of christ, rather it is that of the deevil.. LOL. Christains will never ceaze to amaze me. hahaha

kkins25:

What i find funny is that you can't prove the existence of christ, rather it is that of the deevil.. LOL. Christains will never ceaze to amaze me. hahaha

lol! They are very good at their theology of the gaps. Where there is no information that is where they let their imaginations run mad. Because there was no mention of Lots after Acts chapter 1 therefore Lots are forbidden. It is actually a spiritual malaise that they are suffering and yet despite their pain they want to portray themselves as superior to others.

Pastoshizzy:
There's room for anyone to learn something new. The people I'm most uncomfortable with are people who don't have as much experience as you do but are more endowed with grammatical ability to confuse you that have been there. A man was a life time victim of the same topic (Divination), he was delivered.. became a walking encyclopaedia on the topic, now one alecky smart dude wants a biography as explanation. Anyway, after sampling opinions I have come to conclusion that ignorance is bliss when you have the right camouflage to cover it. Learn ! It's not that bad.

Mr Man, you are not demonstrating anything. Anybody can make up stories. I challenge you that you are lying. How do I know? because it is what I have come to expect from 'christians'. There is evidence of your fondness for lying all over Nairaland. In your mendacious imagination you think you have more experience than me. You don't even know me.

Exoticfarmer:

1. You are just trying out some new words.
2. You seem to derive joy in kindling strife.
3. You seem to make many a feeble argument.
4. You speak with ignorance and nonchalance about the Holy Spirit.

For the above reasons, i don't think it's wise to throw words back n' forth with you. I may remain silent to your mentions on this topic hereafter, High probability ~ besides a Nairalander has already summarised the Truth for u. but you still argued.

1. What has using a new word got to do with the gist of the matter? or you're trying to deflect. that is another tactic I've observed in lying christians.

2. Another pernicious and obnoxious trait that demoniacs portray is to play victim when they are in fact the aggressor. In spite of the clear evidence on this thread. The OP started with an inquiry. During divination, does the diviner hear from the gods? I and Tenshades laid out that there is a distinction between mediumship and divination. However others used the inquiry as an opportunity to attack traditional religion with claims that are still unproven on this thread.
A simple request that you should back up your claims, and explain how you arrived at your opinion, na lie, una begin una prevaricating and you now use this your post to throw jibes at me.

3. You nko? You make no argument at all. If my argument is feeble then the way discourse works is that you demonstrate with counter argument why it is feeble. But you can't because you're under the influence of a lying spirit.

4. You are being ignorant about the Holy Spirit. A claim is made that the 'Holy Spirit' will tell you everything you need to know. Then I ask, quite simply. If you have a medical condition, to you get advise from a qualified medical practitioner or do you ask the 'Holy Spirit'? Just because you cannot answer this question because the answer exposes your claim as nonsensical you resort to calling me ignorant and nonchalant, Abi? And you claim that it is I that is kindling strife.

Such foolishness has been the bane of my country Nigeria. All your claims that you claim are falling flat on the ground before your face every where we look in Nigeria. All the prophecies made in your fake-assed churches fail. Even the church building sef fails and kills many with it. Yet the madness continues and it is due to arrogant agents of misguided folly such as yourself.