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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by BigRocky: 7:21pm On Apr 22, 2022
seunoj:


That’s just ticket bro.
He will lobby delegates, emirs, Oba’s, etc.
He will travel with entourage for campaigns of which money will be given out.
Build up to election, he will continue to sort men and women.
On Election Day, that’s another massive payout.
Post election court cases requires money (SAN hire and all)
Upon victory, investors start looking out for return.

And we say we no want corruption! I laugh in Swahili

I follow u laugh
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by ABANGWABOI(m): 7:34pm On Apr 22, 2022
Thank God the tickets are costly in Nigeria so that all these Woke SIMPs and feminists can't afford it..
Dem wan go make laws and administrative leadership that would favour women

Good forbid..
The forms should be 200 million pls..
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by patrickcollins: 7:37pm On Apr 22, 2022
Vixlot:
You are only comparing PDP/APC with US ,
what happened to other political parties?
No the emphasis he is making is that in USA the payment for any electoral position is already fixed irrespective of parties involved.
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by patrickcollins: 7:40pm On Apr 22, 2022
chccho:

OP my question is why are u comparing a state and a whole country? Why wasnt the cost of American presidential ticket stated
It is because that one State is Richer than Nigeria as a country
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by hensen5005: 7:47pm On Apr 22, 2022
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Bbbw: 7:50pm On Apr 22, 2022
Really
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by drololaaof: 7:57pm On Apr 22, 2022
Any of the parties promising anti corruption IRO LORI IRO. This party nomination fees is corruption embedded ab initio
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by plodds: 8:35pm On Apr 22, 2022
jmoore:
Below is the list of what most states in USA charge for a candidate that wants to partake in primaries.

Governor: $5,000.
U.S. Senate: $5,000.
U.S. House: $2,500.
State Senate: $1,000.
State House: $500.
Judicial offices: $500.
Countywide elected offices: $100.
County Commission or Constable: $25.

Let's compare one state in USA and a country called Nigeria.

GDP of Texas 2021: 2.0 Trillion dollars
Budget of Texas 2021: 261.5 billion dollars.
Presidential aspirants in Texas pay a $5,000 filing fee.

GDP of Nigeria 2021: 446.9 billion dollars
Budget of Nigeria 2021: 23.3 billion US dollars (13.6 trillion naira)
APC presidential form: 170,940 US dollars (100 million naira)

Compare that to a poor country called Nigeria. APC decided to set the price of governorship at $85,470 (50 million naira). That is 16 times more than what is paid in USA. While that of president set at 170,940 US dollars (100 million naira) is 34 times more than what is paid in USA.

Until INEC sets a REASONABLE limit on how much political parties can charge, this ridiculous trend will continue.

Are our destinies tied to APC and PDP?
Many are complaining that these top two parties are disenfranchising young candidates with their prices. We have more younger people than old people. If only many Nigerians think like me, APC and PDP would have been abandoned for a long time. But most of the electorates love 'abusive relationship'.

If in other countries, a young person can win an election with a unpopular party, why can't it happen in Nigeria?

that's a wise analogy, we should even add minimum wage comparism amongst them to paint a clearer picture

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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by onunwa21(m): 8:41pm On Apr 22, 2022
BigRocky:
Aspirants would buy ticket for millions and you expect them not to loot when they get into office.

I dey reason same thing oooo
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by poiZon: 9:07pm On Apr 22, 2022
BigRocky:


Imagine a candidate spending half a billion naira on election and campaigns lol.

Were would a common man see 500million for election?

Good leaders will almost definitely never emerge.

We are moving , moving in a circle though.
Thats it..

All the states they visit, they must pay homage to the highest traditional ruler in that state, and u can't visit them ampty handed.
The delegates too willneed some tips so they know u mean business, by so doing they will lock their votes for u.

Politics is business in Nigeria, serious business...

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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by BigRocky: 9:10pm On Apr 22, 2022
poiZon:

Thats it..

All the states they visit, they must pay homage to the highest traditional ruler in that state, and u can't visit them ampty handed.
The delegates too willneed some tips so they know u mean business, by so doing they will lock their votes for u.

Politics is business in Nigeria, serious business...

Serious one.
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by BigRocky: 9:11pm On Apr 22, 2022
onunwa21:

I dey reason same thing oooo

It is what it is
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by PreciousBro: 9:13pm On Apr 22, 2022
ElohimShenRa:


Sorry mate, nobody from the South East will EVER rule Nigeria.

You know it, I know it, Everybody know it - I am just the only Oracle saying it out aloud.

What a man sows, he shall reap in multiple folds. You cannot sow guava and expect to harvest pineapple - Never!

My advice to your people is to embrace Biafra “wholeheartedly” and start living the dream.

Do not put one leg in the “Zoo” fighting for its Presidency and the other leg in Biafra killing your people like cockroaches.
Your head must shield space. A vacuum for rubbish.

You think it's your usual clout chasing and pointless scoring psychology when talking about your future or that of your imaginary kids' to play tribal cards with? If you like no vote igbo, you and your tribal families and allies will still not measure up to the poorest igbo. Even if you put Igbo-hating promax Buhari, I can swear you'd still work under or beg an igbo for upkeep.

Nuisance!
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by avrilwisedata: 10:40pm On Apr 22, 2022
sirjoe1124:

$5 is for one gallon which is approximately 4 litres.
his point remains valid though. A gallon is 3.785 litres costing N625 as against $5 (over N2500). Now compare! The difference is that, money is well circulated in the system if u want to work. There is dignity in their labour unlike here.

See, APC = PDP. And until we agree to that fact, we'll keep going in circles.

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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Poleski: 10:44pm On Apr 22, 2022
This is really bad!

Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by lexander(m): 11:50pm On Apr 22, 2022
Ray07:
No mind am. Them wan even increase am self this year.
since he's busy comparing price of gas in USA and Nigeria he shouldn't stop there why not go further and compare the minimum wage in the US to that of Nigeria . I believe the facts can speak for itself i rest my case

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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Gamesmart: 12:22am On Apr 23, 2022
jmoore:
Below is the list of what most states in USA charge for a candidate that wants to partake in primaries.

Governor: $5,000.
U.S. Senate: $5,000.
U.S. House: $2,500.
State Senate: $1,000.
State House: $500.
Judicial offices: $500.
Countywide elected offices: $100.
County Commission or Constable: $25.

Let's compare one state in USA and a country called Nigeria.

GDP of Texas 2021: 2.0 Trillion dollars
Budget of Texas 2021: 261.5 billion dollars.
Presidential aspirants in Texas pay a $5,000 filing fee.

GDP of Nigeria 2021: 446.9 billion dollars
Budget of Nigeria 2021: 23.3 billion US dollars (13.6 trillion naira)
APC presidential form: 170,940 US dollars (100 million naira)

Compare that to a poor country called Nigeria. APC decided to set the price of governorship at $85,470 (50 million naira). That is 16 times more than what is paid in USA. While that of president set at 170,940 US dollars (100 million naira) is 34 times more than what is paid in USA.

Until INEC sets a REASONABLE limit on how much political parties can charge, this ridiculous trend will continue.

Are our destinies tied to APC and PDP?
Many are complaining that these top two parties are disenfranchising young candidates with their prices. We have more younger people than old people. If only many Nigerians think like me, APC and PDP would have been abandoned for a long time. But most of the electorates love 'abusive relationship'.

If in other countries, a young person can win an election with a unpopular party, why can't it happen in Nigeria?

What a totally foolish compilation!

What has GDP or Budget got to do with respective declared fees for candidate forms?

How did they become useful tools for comparison of how much declared fees for candidate forms should be?

That is just a completely senseless, totally senseless, waste of time and compilation.

This is what is F-9 standard write-up. Complete nonsense! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by charlesditro: 2:45am On Apr 23, 2022
jmoore:
Below is the list of what most states in USA charge for a candidate that wants to partake in primaries.

Governor: $5,000.
U.S. Senate: $5,000.
U.S. House: $2,500.
State Senate: $1,000.
State House: $500.
Judicial offices: $500.
Countywide elected offices: $100.
County Commission or Constable: $25.

Let's compare one state in USA and a country called Nigeria.

GDP of Texas 2021: 2.0 Trillion dollars
Budget of Texas 2021: 261.5 billion dollars.
Presidential aspirants in Texas pay a $5,000 filing fee.

GDP of Nigeria 2021: 446.9 billion dollars
Budget of Nigeria 2021: 23.3 billion US dollars (13.6 trillion naira)
APC presidential form: 170,940 US dollars (100 million naira)

Compare that to a poor country called Nigeria. APC decided to set the price of governorship at $85,470 (50 million naira). That is 16 times more than what is paid in USA. While that of president set at 170,940 US dollars (100 million naira) is 34 times more than what is paid in USA.

Until INEC sets a REASONABLE limit on how much political parties can charge, this ridiculous trend will continue.

Are our destinies tied to APC and PDP?
Many are complaining that these top two parties are disenfranchising young candidates with their prices. We have more younger people than old people. If only many Nigerians think like me, APC and PDP would have been abandoned for a long time. But most of the electorates love 'abusive relationship'.

If in other countries, a young person can win an election with a unpopular party, why can't it happen in Nigeria?
because of godfatherism.......Tinubu must be president whether qualified or not as long as it's not an igbo president, house president we die dia. Its a tribal bigotry that has eaten deep. They set it in motion so now it's breeding on autopilot.
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by jimyjames(m): 9:37am On Apr 23, 2022
Misterone:
it is not the constitution but the people. we think of self first before others. we are selfish.
The Constitution was written by the military and passed to civilians, but it still has that type of military directorship in it, it gives too much power to leaders not the people, in democracy power belongs to the people not the leaders
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by chccho(m): 10:23am On Apr 23, 2022
Hndrrxxx:
shut your damn mouth 'fore you dropped, nigga
U can s*ck Buhari d*ck and choke on it u M*ron!!!
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Hndrrxxx(m): 10:24am On Apr 23, 2022
chccho:

U can s*ck Buhari d*ck and choke on it u M*ron!!!
Oh you tryna diss Hndrrxxx that will prolly get you killed??
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by chiboycue: 1:16pm On Apr 23, 2022
jmoore:
Below is the list of what most states in USA charge for a candidate that wants to partake in primaries.

Governor: $5,000.
U.S. Senate: $5,000.
U.S. House: $2,500.
State Senate: $1,000.
State House: $500.
Judicial offices: $500.
Countywide elected offices: $100.
County Commission or Constable: $25.

Let's compare one state in USA and a country called Nigeria.

GDP of Texas 2021: 2.0 Trillion dollars
Budget of Texas 2021: 261.5 billion dollars.
Presidential aspirants in Texas pay a $5,000 filing fee.

GDP of Nigeria 2021: 446.9 billion dollars
Budget of Nigeria 2021: 23.3 billion US dollars (13.6 trillion naira)
APC presidential form: 170,940 US dollars (100 million naira)

Compare that to a poor country called Nigeria. APC decided to set the price of governorship at $85,470 (50 million naira). That is 16 times more than what is paid in USA. While that of president set at 170,940 US dollars (100 million naira) is 34 times more than what is paid in USA.

Until INEC sets a REASONABLE limit on how much political parties can charge, this ridiculous trend will continue.

Are our destinies tied to APC and PDP?
Many are complaining that these top two parties are disenfranchising young candidates with their prices. We have more younger people than old people. If only many Nigerians think like me, APC and PDP would have been abandoned for a long time. But most of the electorates love 'abusive relationship'.

If in other countries, a young person can win an election with a unpopular party, why can't it happen in Nigeria?

I agree with you on the aspect of INEC setting accepted reasonable limits (in naira) for the sales of election forms and the provision should be included in our constitution.
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Misterone: 2:44pm On Apr 23, 2022
jimyjames:

The Constitution was written by the military and passed to civilians, but it still has that type of military directorship in it, it gives too much power to leaders not the people, in democracy power belongs to the people not the leaders
then what will you say about China

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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by jimyjames(m): 2:59pm On Apr 23, 2022
Misterone:
then what will you say about China
You can't compare china with Nigeria on any level, the leaders in China love and care about their country more than their families, it's death sentence to a corrupt leader in China, china has close to five regions that enjoys a high level of autonomy, 2 special administrative regions like Hong Kong who has their own government and even currency , the power Chinese leaders have can only be used to better the country not for personal private or religious or tribal benefits
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Misterone: 4:19pm On Apr 23, 2022
jimyjames:

You can't compare china with Nigeria on any level, the leaders in China love and care about their country more than their families, it's death sentence to a corrupt leader in China, china has close to five regions that enjoys a high level of autonomy, 2 special administrative regions like Hong Kong who has their own government and even currency , the power Chinese leaders have can only be used to better the country not for personal private or religious or tribal benefits
it's like you like shifting the goalpost. you said constitution is the problem of Nigeria, I said no it is the people because we are too selfish. you said no because we don't practice true democracy. then I pointed to China. now you are talking about love for country. is it not the same thing as the people being the problem or solution and not one law or constitution?

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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by jimyjames(m): 11:13pm On Apr 23, 2022
Misterone:
it's like you like shifting the goalpost. you said constitution is the problem of Nigeria, I said no it is the people because we are too selfish. you said no because we don't practice true democracy. then I pointed to China. now you are talking about love for country. is it not the same thing as the people being the problem or solution and not one law or constitution?


Every country has bad selfish people plus good people, but a country where the laws, Constitution makes leaders gods that's the problem with Nigeria, in China even those who make the laws are not above the law, but here they are
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Misterone: 1:38pm On Apr 24, 2022
jimyjames:



Every country has bad selfish people plus good people, but a country where the laws, Constitution makes leaders gods that's the problem with Nigeria, in China even those who make the laws are not above the law, but here they are
North Korea is a country with dictatorial tendencies their leader is seen almost like a god but North Koreans are one of the straightest people on Earth. in China, you cannot oppose the party. the party is seen as a god structure with no democracy. the leader gives order and it is obeyed unless you won die. the issue with you guys is that you see democracy as conforming to your ideas. democracy is all about collective agreement to an issue by the majority. democracy takes time to achieve results. on the other hand dictatorship is ruling by fiat and it doesn't waste time. our constitution at present does not give god powers to any president. it is just that you guys are pained and full of hate.

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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by jimyjames(m): 4:25pm On Apr 24, 2022
Misterone:
North Korea is a country with dictatorial tendencies their leader is seen almost like a god but North Koreans are one of the straightest people on Earth. in China, you cannot oppose the party. the party is seen as a god structure with no democracy. the leader gives order and it is obeyed unless you won die. the issue with you guys is that you see democracy as conforming to your ideas. democracy is all about collective agreement to an issue by the majority. democracy takes time to achieve results. on the other hand dictatorship is ruling by fiat and it doesn't waste time. our constitution at present does not give god powers to any president. it is just that you guys are pained and full of hate.
The laws of china are the gods of china not really the party you can't oppose the law in China no matter who you are, in Nigeria politicians, leaders are above the law, the break the laws at will, steal at will and grant themselves pardons, it's not about been pained and full of hate, the whole world knows Nigeria is a failed state

The law makers themselves knows the constitution is faulty and needs amendment but those who are benefiting from the faulty constitution won't allow it
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Misterone: 5:28pm On Apr 24, 2022
jimyjames:

The laws of china are the gods of china not really the party you can't oppose the law in China no matter who you are, in Nigeria politicians, leaders are above the law, the break the laws at will, steal at will and grant themselves pardons, it's not about been pained and full of hate, the whole world knows Nigeria is a failed state

The law makers themselves knows the constitution is faulty and needs amendment but those who are benefiting from the faulty constitution won't allow it
do you know the meaning of a failed state? now after passing that your beautiful amendment and it becomes law, who will implement it? is it the man on the street that doesn't give a fvck about anything but himself? if you say it is the government, then you missed the road. at present, government employees are not even up to 2million. that is roughly about 1% of the population. how is it possible for 1% of the population to enforce a law on 99%? virtually impossible. you need the input of the citizens. in developed countries, when citizens see something untoward, they immediately dial 911 but in Nigeria, we start clapping and videoing or we ask for our share.
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by jimyjames(m): 1:45am On Apr 25, 2022
Misterone:
do you know the meaning of a failed state? now after passing that your beautiful amendment and it becomes law, who will implement it? is it the man on the street that doesn't give a fvck about anything but himself? if you say it is the government, then you missed the road. at present, government employees are not even up to 2million. that is roughly about 1% of the population. how is it possible for 1% of the population to enforce a law on 99%? virtually impossible. you need the input of the citizens. in developed countries, when citizens see something untoward, they immediately dial 911 but in Nigeria, we start clapping and videoing or we ask for our share.

Of course I know the meaning of a failed state and Nigeria is one forget the packaging

When Nigeria gets its constitution right power will be in the hands of the people and things will be done right, Nigeria needs total restructuring, decentralization of power

you say Nigeria out of 200 million people has less than 2 million public workers, but in reality Nigeria don't have a data base of how many public workers they have, there are millions of ghost workers out there , many politicians out there are receiving money on fake names they put in the public service

There is no way a citizen will be patriotic when they leaders whom are meant to be role models are doing the wrong thing, when a patriotic citizen comes out to protest for his rights the leaders send police and soldiers to shot and kill them for protesting

A country where when you report a case to the police the police end up arresting you as a suspect?
Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by Misterone: 8:29am On Apr 28, 2022
jimyjames:


Of course I know the meaning of a failed state and Nigeria is one forget the packaging

When Nigeria gets its constitution right power will be in the hands of the people and things will be done right, Nigeria needs total restructuring, decentralization of power

you say Nigeria out of 200 million people has less than 2 million public workers, but in reality Nigeria don't have a data base of how many public workers they have, there are millions of ghost workers out there , many politicians out there are receiving money on fake names they put in the public service

There is no way a citizen will be patriotic when they leaders whom are meant to be role models are doing the wrong thing, when a patriotic citizen comes out to protest for his rights the leaders send police and soldiers to shot and kill them for protesting

A country where when you report a case to the police the police end up arresting you as a suspect?
when the people hold to high esteem their stupid religious and superstitious beliefs do you think a good constitution will work. when those to implement and those it affects also believe in this rubbish!
is it the constitution that make people believe in rituals of beheadings and removal of private parts, witches and wizard, deceit, yahoo yahoo and all other stupid vise? No. there are laws again all these things but the people don't believe in the constitution they believe more in their tradition. even those that will implement that your very good constitution believe in this rubbish. so mr, no constitution will work in Nigeria unless you change the orientation of the people.


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Re: Cost Of Nomination Form For Primaries: Texas In USA Vs Nigeria by jimyjames(m): 2:20am On Apr 29, 2022
Misterone:
when the people hold to high esteem their stupid religious and superstitious beliefs do you think a good constitution will work. when those to implement and those it affects also believe in this rubbish!
is it the constitution that make people believe in rituals of beheadings and removal of private parts, witches and wizard, deceit, yahoo yahoo and all other stupid vise? No. there are laws again all these things but the people don't believe in the constitution they believe more in their tradition. even those that will implement that your very good constitution believe in this rubbish. so mr, no constitution will work in Nigeria unless you change the orientation of the people.


https://www.nairaland.com/7099728/missing-corper-stephanie-se-ember-terungwa

Maybe if you check the records of Nigeria starting from the time Nigeria was under colonial rule from 1914 to 1960 to 1999 you will see when and how and why all these rituals killings religious beliefs and all these things became a norm in Nigeria everything became this bad from 1999 to 2022 , everything points to the 1999 Constitution

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