hslbroker2:
what about the rods u said u need baba, I have been expecting to hear from you.

The contact person (a female) should have called you by now?

redgem:
You guys have plenty money here oh...the way you/most of you are just calling prices eh, fear will just be catching somebody.. I know some do it intentionally, don't know their reasons but please take it easy with us abeg, some of us, it is just small small kobo we are seeing and managing.. Don't rub it on our faces this is how pressure and evil thoughts comes in. One will feel that they are not doing enough. My prayer is that one day, we all will be able to afford all what we desire.. Amen

here's what I want you to do, focus on your site and project. Grab the free lesson and schooling from here. Engage the contractors and vendors you want.

Everything else going on here is inconsequential

BrickDevo:

This to me doesn't seem to solve the problem of capillary rise of water through the walls, the walls are still in direct contact with the soil....

Yes, you are right. That's why they need to keep (rain) water away from the foundation by nylon concrete flooring the compound. Interlocking will not do in this situation.

By so doing, it is only the risk of ground water (water table) that MAY cause capillary action leading to damp. Because it's not a swamp the water table is expected to be reasonably low and the foundation has been set up to be dry by good rain water run-off, the risk of capillary action leading to problematic damp should be considerably reduced. It is the best they could hope for.

KolaShangOne:


The contact person (a female) should have called you by now?

I didn't hear from her maybe you should send me her number through the number on my signature so I can call her or WhatsApp her, so we know how to load this early this morning and deliver on time,and I hope u don't make mistake with the number u gave her, my phone numbers is on my signature thanks

Nowar:


Thank you very much sir.
1. I have not done the roofing ,
What I meant is that e remain make I do roofing
And I supported the house with pillar round ( the house have 10 pillars in total ) four each side , two at the back , where the foundation has 6 couches of block, I supported it with double wall round..

Below is the pics


Blessedsunny2, hslbroker2

I’m a young man , it’s a pity I have zero knowledge sha

Since you are yet to do concrete flooring, it can still be remediated.
Just like diordaves suggested earlier use a DPM (nylon) whenever you want to do the flooring.
However break the internal part of the blocks at the lower part that will be in contact in german floor particularly the exterior walls.
Extend the DPM into the broken blocks, let the german floor extend into the broken blocks holding down the DPM. This should prevent damping of the inside walls of the building

For the exterior, you can use a fanciful tiles below a wall belt at the lower part of the building.

pizapato:



Since you are yet to do concrete flooring, it can still be remediated.
Just like diordaves suggested earlier use a DPM (nylon) whenever you want to do the flooring.
However break the internal part of the blocks at the lower part that will be in contact in german floor particularly the exterior walls.
Extend the DPM into the broken blocks, let the german floor extend into the broken blocks holding down the DPM. This should prevent damping of the inside walls of the building

For the exterior, you can use a fanciful tiles below a wall belt at the lower part of the building.

I appreciate you all .

However I’ll love more clearer/bigger pics pls or link to video I can watch to fully grab . Thank you



Btw, I called the mason yesteday , told him all this and he insisted that it doesn’t need that the area and soil condition can’t give room to dampness . He showed me houses around me,he explained a lots to me and took me to some far away houses where it’s mandated to use German floor, very far to my place . I still insisted , he said if that’s is the case I should just settle for concrete thick concrete flooring just like someone earlier on has suggested.

Before We could return to site omo naso rain start o lol.

Thank you all ..


I’ll appreciate the bigger / clear pics pls or video link .,
Location:Ibadan .

I would always advise that you incorporate a roof gutter and channel any rain water through pipes into gutters in front of your home in addition to the suggestion by hajj.

Nowar:
Hello every one .. so I’ve been a ghost reader of this great forum for years , i had to register immediately, I stumbled on this thread this very morning , reading posts from November 2021 and something caught my attention..


I’m building a three bedroom and the foundation is high , the back is 6 blocks high, why the front is I think 3 or. 4 sha. Una engineer go don understand me.. I was advised to support it with double wall since the foundation is high, I did and I supported it round with strong pillars( 10,pillars ) . But then I never knew the important of German floor o ( note I’m not cutting costs, I just don’t know about it) .. The building has reached roofing level and I want to use Gerard roofing with casting parapet .. i don budget 3m-3.5m for Gerard, woods, and parapet , nails , transport , workmanship .. I want make the house high well well ..

U can also put me through about the cost of the roofing pls ..
The house na 3 bedroom two sitting room, dining, store, laundr, kitchen ,store and it’s very long building ,
I plan roofing the house towards the end of the year or early next year by God’s grace ..



Now that the house don reach roofing level , can I still do German floor ? If not what else can I do ? Pls tell me the bitter true no sugarcoat for me o. Hope I won’t have problem in the future if I don’t do it, although the area is ok and solid , the foundation is solid too, I’ve done the filling with laterite.. and there’s no history of damp in the area. But I’m the kind of person that if I hear something and after effect my mind go just Dey there no matter what ..



Pls my people in this case what can I do ??
I didn’t use engineer. Na me be the mumu engineer and my bricklayer ( I know of three modern houses the guy built for my area and I’ve never heard say dem get issues na why I used the guy and he’s the one that built it from scratch to top)

I mould the blocks too but it was not enough , time no Dey so I had to buy to complete it ..

Pls people of god what I can I do at this stage o…..

Cc


godisgreatest1
diordaves

brickdevo
Blessedsunny2
Twinkenny
Smallsmall

Nowar:
And more so can I do the Gerard roofing Before the parapet or vice versa ..

I’m new to it. I have no idea. Besides which is better , casting parapet or art work own

smile, there is no how u want to do Gerald roofing before parapets sir,
Casting parapet is best and strong
Parapets first before roofing sir, thanks

Add a roof gutter and run off rain water through pipes to the front gutter. He cannot correct this entirely but he can improve by reducing water contact.

BrickDevo:

This to me doesn't seem to solve the problem of capillary rise of water through the walls, the walls are still in direct contact with the soil....

mufutau55:
@Nowar
In your post, there are two main concern to be addressed.

1. Many people did their house without German Floor, it is a good thing for it to be done. But you have passed that stage now. Your house will not fall or crumble because of that, have no fear.
Just make sure to do a good concrete floor before you do your tilings. Dont be too scared because you didnt do the German floor.

2. You probably cannot do any parapet now because we are not sure if pillars were introduced when ypur house is being built. And also parapet must be done before roofing. If you dont do parapet, it's not the end of life, roof your house normally with facing board.
If you must do parapet, the only parapet you can do at this stsge is the aluminium parapet, and it can be done when you are doing the roofing.

I hope those addressed your major concern.

Hajji M.

lobatan, u say it all sir

Na daylight robbery them commit. unless your project is in one of those estates where they come by 9 and have to leave by 5pm and you have a 10 bed dupplex and even then you should be able to do it for 1.2 to 1.5m.

sonnie10:
Na beg I beg before the contractor accepted about #2M for both outside and inside plastering without the additional 450 bags of cement

Please what is the best quality mosquito net and wiremesh out there.

The 'boko haram' mesh was good for keeping rats out, but it rusts.

Would appreciate if Anyone could assist on this. Thanks

Nowar:
Hello every one .. so I’ve been a ghost reader of this great forum for years , i had to register immediately, I stumbled on this thread this very morning , reading posts from November 2021 and something caught my attention..


I’m building a three bedroom and the foundation is high , the back is 6 blocks high, why the front is I think 3 or. 4 sha. Una engineer go don understand me.. I was advised to support it with double wall since the foundation is high, I did and I supported it round with strong pillars( 10,pillars ) . But then I never knew the important of German floor o ( note I’m not cutting costs, I just don’t know about it) .. The building has reached roofing level and I want to use Gerard roofing with casting parapet .. i don budget 3m-3.5m for Gerard, woods, and parapet , nails , transport , workmanship .. I want make the house high well well ..

U can also put me through about the cost of the roofing pls ..
The house na 3 bedroom two sitting room, dining, store, laundr, kitchen ,store and it’s very long building ,
I plan roofing the house towards the end of the year or early next year by God’s grace ..



Now that the house don reach roofing level , can I still do German floor ? If not what else can I do ? Pls tell me the bitter true no sugarcoat for me o. Hope I won’t have problem in the future if I don’t do it, although the area is ok and solid , the foundation is solid too, I’ve done the filling with laterite.. and there’s no history of damp in the area. But I’m the kind of person that if I hear something and after effect my mind go just Dey there no matter what ..



Pls my people in this case what can I do ??
I didn’t use engineer. Na me be the mumu engineer and my bricklayer ( I know of three modern houses the guy built for my area and I’ve never heard say dem get issues na why I used the guy and he’s the one that built it from scratch to top)

I mould the blocks too but it was not enough , time no Dey so I had to buy to complete it ..

Pls people of god what I can I do at this stage o…..

Cc


godisgreatest1
diordaves

brickdevo
Blessedsunny2
Twinkenny
Smallsmall

My building has a foundation that is 4 blocks high all round, as it was in the design by the architect. The location is in PH, in an area where the land is dry. So far, I haven't experienced any damp. But the first building had same height of foundation and about 18" step down in the living room only, even with the DPC, I noticed peeling off after screeding and painting in one section of the wall. All other rooms are very OK. My Engineer said 'the height of the foundation and the dryness of the land will ensure there's no damp'.

I wouldn't want to mention the house in the east because I am not sure of the height of the foundation. I built on an existing foundation. So I don't know exactly how many blocks was there. But it is not as high as others, I will say most likely 3 blocks high. Till date no damp even without DPC but the land is 'desert' dry and sandy.
That's just my own observation. Thank you.

Honestly there’s is true love in this thread, see as everyone Dey come through for me and trying to ensure I get wetin I Dey find and give me understanding from different angles..

Thank you so much ..

Nowar:

Yeah It’s bungalow not storeybuilding . I actually can put it up for sale if indeed it will bring problems in future ..
i feel very bad that I didn’t do the German floor sha..

So there’s nothing to do to help the situation now right ??

You see, you went and constructed a structure without due diligence and want to risk an innocent person's life.

Any which way, as long as the area has low water level, you don't have to worry much. There was one we did last year where all the walls were soaked, paints pilling off and house general dam.

Measure 3 ft from the floor and ground with tiles.
If you haven't done the flooring, use DPM before tilling. These will mitigate the effects.

Nowar:
Honestly there’s is true love in this thread, see as everyone Dey come through for me and trying to ensure I get wetin I Dey find and give me understanding from different angles..

Thank you so much ..

thats is what we are here for, thanks

Godisgreatest1:


My building has a foundation that is 4 blocks high all round, as it was in the design by the architect. The location is in PH, in an area where the land is dry. So far, I haven't experienced any damp. But the first building had same height of foundation and about 18" step down in the living room only, even with the DPC, I noticed peeling off after screeding and painting in one section of the wall. All other rooms are very OK. My Engineer said 'the height of the foundation and the dryness of the land will ensure there's no damp'.

I wouldn't want to mention the house in the east because I am not sure of the height of the foundation. I built on an existing foundation. So I don't know exactly how many blocks was there. But it is not as high as others, I will say most likely 3 blocks high. Till date no damp even without DPC but the land is 'desert' dry and sandy.
That's just my own observation. Thank you.

Same thing the manna told me. My foundation blocks na 6 couches for back, 5………4,couches for front ( e step down )..
Besides water is very scarce in the area to the extent that most of them go to factory at the junction to fetch tap water and the ones wey get shoulder pad Dey buy water.. when I was about to mould the blocks and setting , I dig well, water no come, naso so rock( wasted like 130k cos dem blast am reach 6 times , people around me have also tried but e no touch water, so most of dem don close am, ) although the egede guy wey Dey blast am say make I continue to Dey blast say e go soon touch water,I just told him say I don hear

Eventually I had to pay dem labors for water( 1700 or 1500 per drum depends on where dem see water ) , everyday until the settings and lintel/casting completed ..



I plan to dig borehole for all of us.. if God’s willing .,

If I may ask , what kind of roofing did you use sir?



Cc
Diordave
And everyone .. thanks

sonnie10:
Na beg I beg before the contractor accepted about #2M for both outside and inside plastering without the additional 450 bags of cement

Way to high N2m with additional 450 bags of cements ? I hope the house is over 8 apartments. How many cements in total do they used oooo I beg ?

This is what I'll recommend.

pizapato:


Since you are yet to do concrete flooring, it can still be remediated.

Just like diordaves suggested earlier use a DPM (nylon) whenever you want to do the flooring.
However [b]break the internal part of the blocks at the lower part that will be in contact in german floor particularly the exterior walls.
Extend the DPM into the broken blocks, let the german floor extend into the broken blocks holding down the DPM. This should prevent damping of the inside walls of the building
[/b]

Nowar:
Honestly there’s is true love in this thread, see as everyone Dey come through for me and trying to ensure I get wetin I Dey find and give me understanding from different angles..

Thank you so much ..

It's basically how it's been. We lost quite a bit of active posters who are professional builders over the years.

redgem:
You guys have plenty money here oh...the way you/most of you are just calling prices eh, fear will just be catching somebody.. I know some do it intentionally, don't know their reasons but please take it easy with us abeg, some of us, it is just small small kobo we are seeing and managing.. Don't rub it on our faces this is how pressure and evil thoughts comes in. One will feel that they are not doing enough. My prayer is that one day, we all will be able to afford all what we desire.. Amen

Madam, just stay in your lane jejeli and keep doing your thing. Some, not all, are just blowhards. In Texas, we have a saying "Big Hat, No Cattle"

kalu61:
You see, you went and constructed a structure without due diligence and want to risk an innocent person's life.

I actually did honestly , and all the material I used are very solid and quality . I didn’t cut corner in anyway .
It was yesteday morning while searching for roof prices ( trying to compare to what I’ve got) that’s when I came accross this thread having been here for 8 years o.. then I saw a particular comment that has to do with German floor , i read all the whole pages and it downed on me that it’s very important. Called my mason, friends, surveyor and his padi padi architect ( wey Help me with the design, no mind me na small money I give am ) and ask all of dem yesterday the consequences, all of dem said the land dry, and rocky that’s it’s not needed. I’m still not convinced, told my bricklayer to meet me at the site right away , went there , we do many many talking before I comot cos of rain yesterday.

See bro I’m not endangering anyones life ok, I’m just the kind of person that if I don hear something like this , na there my heart go Dey ..

When I was little my mom told me that pressing phone , and using anything like glass or watching television or standing at the door mouth when it’s raining heavily that thunder fit strike and kill the person ,,

Baba up to these days , no matter how important the call or message I can never press my phone when it’s raining and I can never watch television when it’s raining, and I no fit stand or rest my back on chair . My mind always goes to that thing Even though people have Managed to convince me otherwise.
My plan was to sell it cheaply self Abi u expect me to watch my money to just waste..
Now that I’ve been convinced enough I won’t sell it. I’ve reached conclusion to do the concrete .

It’s going to be my house if God’s willing. My next project will have German floor to avoid unnecessary headaches.
Thank you sir..

kalu61:
You see, you went and constructed a structure without due diligence and want to risk an innocent person's life.

Any which way, as long as the area has low water level, you don't have to worry much. There was one we did last year where all the walls were soaked, paints pilling off and house general dam.

Measure 3 ft from the floor and ground with tiles.
If you haven't done the flooring, use DPM before tilling. These will mitigate the effects.

thank you very much .. may God bless you for me

Nowar:


Same thing the manna told me. My foundation blocks na 6 couches for back, 5………4,couches for front ( e step down )..
Besides water is very scarce in the area to the extent that most of them go to factory at the junction to fetch tap water and the ones wey get shoulder pad Dey buy water.. when I was about to mould the blocks and setting , I dig well, water no come, naso so rock( wasted like 130k cos dem blast am reach 6 times , people around me have also tried but e no touch water, so most of dem don close am, ) although the egede guy wey Dey blast am say make I continue to Dey blast say e go soon touch water,I just told him say I don hear

Eventually I had to pay dem labors for water( 1700 or 1500 per drum depends on where dem see water ) , everyday until the settings and lintel/casting completed ..



I plan to dig borehole for all of us.. if God’s willing .,

If I may ask , what kind of roofing did you use sir?



Cc
Diordave
And everyone .. thanks

The first and second are steptiles both with precast parapet. The third 'will' be Stone coated, still with precast parapet, God willing.

EgunMogaji2:


Madam, just stay in your lane jejeli and keep doing your thing. Some, not all, are just blowhards. In Texas, we have a saying "Big Hat, No Cattle"

Hahaha, Big Fulani hat and no malu, no ewure, no goat . In Nigeria we say "empty barrel make the loudest noise"

michlins:
here's what I want you to do, focus on your site and project. Grab the free lesson and schooling from here. Engage the contractors and vendors you want.

Everything else going on here is inconsequential

Okay oh...

EgunMogaji2:


Madam, just stay in your lane jejeli and keep doing your thing. Some, not all, are just blowhards. In Texas, we have a saying "Big Hat, No Cattle"

I have jejely gone back to my lane...

redgem:
You guys have plenty money here oh...the way you/most of you are just calling prices eh, fear will just be catching somebody.. I know some do it intentionally, don't know their reasons but please take it easy with us abeg, some of us, it is just small small kobo we are seeing and managing.. Don't rub it on our faces this is how pressure and evil thoughts comes in. One will feel that they are not doing enough. My prayer is that one day, we all will be able to afford all what we desire.. Amen

Hummm, which kind of thinking is this? Most everyone be poor? Who is rubbing what on your face? I beg no the hate oooo. Everything na time. When blocks are sold for 20 kobo and land sold for 150 naira some people still cant build house. Today the children of those people then, are buying land for 200millon and building houses of 750millon. Please STOP thinking that way, that pressured and evil thinking will not change anything ooo, na God be that. Matter of fact the more you hate, more blessing come those people way. Please focus on yourself and wait for your time. God will open the door for you too I pray.

Nowar:


I appreciate you all .

However I’ll love more clearer/bigger pics pls or link to video I can watch to fully grab . Thank you



Btw, I called the mason yesteday , told him all this and he insisted that it doesn’t need that the area and soil condition can’t give room to dampness . He showed me houses around me,he explained a lots to me and took me to some far away houses where it’s mandated to use German floor, very far to my place . I still insisted , he said if that’s is the case I should just settle for concrete thick concrete flooring just like someone earlier on has suggested.

Before We could return to site omo naso rain start o lol.

Thank you all ..

I’ll appreciate the bigger / clear pics pls or video link .,
Location:Ibadan .

Unfortunately I don't have additional pictures I can use. If you have a picture showing the internal part of your building upload it, i can make markings on it to explain further.

As for what the bricklayer said, they will always say that but in few years time, you will be the battling with wetting. Some buildings will not even show evidence of wetting on the outside because the sun dries the external sides quickly after rain, but the wetting issue will be a problem on the internal side of the walls.

Apply as much remedy as possible at the stage to save you unnecessary spending in the future.

Nowar:


Same thing the manna told me. My foundation blocks na 6 couches for back, 5………4,couches for front ( e step down )..
Besides water is very scarce in the area to the extent that most of them go to factory at the junction to fetch tap water and the ones wey get shoulder pad Dey buy water.. when I was about to mould the blocks and setting , I dig well, water no come, naso so rock( wasted like 130k cos dem blast am reach 6 times , people around me have also tried but e no touch water, so most of dem don close am, ) although the egede guy wey Dey blast am say make I continue to Dey blast say e go soon touch water,I just told him say I don hear

Eventually I had to pay dem labors for water( 1700 or 1500 per drum depends on where dem see water ) , everyday until the settings and lintel/casting completed ..



I plan to dig borehole for all of us.. if God’s willing .,

If I may ask , what kind of roofing did you use sir?



Cc
Diordave
And everyone .. thanks

Damp is not only from ground water table but mainly from stagnant surface water. The threat of damp is mainly from surface water. This is why it's imperative to concrete the whole compound to keep your foundation dry. You will be good.

Regarding roofing, I saw columns in the pic you attached earlier. At face value, you MAY do cast in place parapet. Get somebody that know what they are doing to have a look first. I'm not convinced your current team know what they're doing.

I have used, metcopo (never again), step tiles and long span. I have never used stone coated that's because I don't have a "personal" building in Nigeria. It's always rental. If I get to building my "personal building" I will use stone coated. So the choice is up to you.

kopell:
Hummm, which kind of thinking is this? Most everyone be poor? Who is rubbing what on your face? I beg no the hate oooo. Everything na time. When blocks are sold for 20 kobo and land sold for 150 naira some people still cant build house. Today the children of those people then, are buying land for 200millon and building houses of 750millon. Please STOP thinking that way, that pressured and evil thinking will not change anything ooo, na God be that. Matter of fact the more you hate, more blessing come those people way. Please focus on yourself and wait for your time. God will open the door for you too I pray.

Please who is hating? I beg you to read again to understand, thank you..

kopell:
Way to high N2m with additional 450 bags of cements ? I hope the house is over 8 apartments. How many cements in total do they used oooo I beg ?

They have used about 1250 bags of cement before getting to plastering with about .. So far, adding the 450 ( 180 for outside and 270 for inside) for plastering brings the total to about 1700 bags.. It is just a duplex with penthouse

This is the approx breakdown
Note that it has about 48 columns ( Pilars)
To give you idea about the size, 550 pieces of 12mm were used for first and 430 pieces of 12mm for the penthouse decking.

Foundation 100 bags
DPC 180 bags ( there was waste here)
Ground floor block setting 150 bags ( including pillars)
First decking 160 bags
First floor block setting 150 bags (including Pillars)
Second decking 120 bags
Second floor block setting 100 bags
Parapet 120 ( for both floors)
Total about 1280 bags plastering not included.