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In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 7:59pm On Apr 30, 2022
Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Tithe is not just a law but a principle, the law of tithe says pay 1/10 of your earning to the priest.
The principle of tithing is that we should not allow the work of God to suffer we should invest carnal things into the things of God.
Hence paying 1/10th is a principle, it is the minimum we give, the early Christians gave all they have to the apostles.

Which of the people complaining about tithe can give all they have? If they cannot give 1/10th (minimum) how can they give all?

Jesus never abolish giving and if the church agree on tithe, then it is signed in heaven.
Matthew 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

Most people don't understand that the church have power, when the church agree on something, Jesus automatically agrees with it, and anyone against it is on his on her own. In as much as it is good, and honorable it is settled.
James has this to say,
James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

For those against tithe, there is one question for you?
Is tithing a good thing or not?
Does it elevate the work of God or not?

If you know it is good and elevate the work of God and you are against it, according to James you have sinned.

Don't be decieved by God haters and christ rejecters, whatever a man sow that shall he also reap

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by MrBrownJay1(m): 8:04pm On Apr 30, 2022
charlatan in robe needs 3 square meals a day (even if you dont), he needs a Bentley, Rolls Ryce or any exotic fancy luxury motor, he needs a private jets, he needs fancy clothing, he needs to have a fantastic life, while you dont. so yes tithe is important to these FRAUDSTERS IN ROBE!!!

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 8:08pm On Apr 30, 2022
MrBrownJay1:
charlatan in robe needs 3 square meals a day (even if you dont), he needs a Bentley, Rolls Ryce or any exotic fancy luxury motor, he needs a private jets, he needs fancy clothing, he needs to have a fantastic life, while you dont. so yes tithe is important to these FRAUDSTERS IN ROBE!!!
your logic is running counter clockwise, you put your money into what gives you value.
Pastors bring value into the lives of their members as vessels of God therefore they deserve to be fed by their members.

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by MrBrownJay1(m): 8:10pm On Apr 30, 2022
Steep:
your logic is running counter clockwise, you put your money into what gives you value.
Pastors bring value into the lives of their members as vessels of God therefore they deserve to be fed by their members.

i guess the Rolls Royce and private jet is also part of what the members need to provide for these charlatans abi?!

the above your wrote clearly shows how you demons read your bible upside down....

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 8:17pm On Apr 30, 2022
MrBrownJay1:


i guess the Rolls Royce and private jet is also part of what the members need to provide for these charlatans abi?!

the above your wrote clearly shows how you demons read your bible upside down....
If pastors do not deserve Royce rolls who deserve it?
A woman bought one of the most expensive perfume for Jesus and even used her hair and tears to wipe Jesus feet.

People sold houses and lands, all their properties and laid the money at the apostles feet.
Not just pastors, everyone who dedicate their lives into working for The Lord Jesus christ deserves even more.

People who value heavenly things will invest in it, while does who treasure earthly things will invest in it.
People spends millions on clubs, alcohol, prostitute, satanic artist and celebrities, wise people who build the house on the eternal rock spend on eternal profitable things.

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by MrBrownJay1(m): 8:26pm On Apr 30, 2022
Steep:
If pastors do not deserve Royce rolls who deserve it?

someone who can afford it with their own money, and certainly not someone using your "god's name to enrich their selfish self. do you know how many hungry people you can feed with the price of a Rolls Royce, let alone a private jet?!?!? these men are DEMONS in robe, no question about it!

A woman bought one of the most expensive perfume for Jesus and even used her hair and tears to wipe Jesus feet.

show me one verse in your holybook where jesus used what was given to him, to buy anything luxurious/fancy for his own selfish self...

People sold houses and lands, all their properties and laid the money at the apostles feet.

YES, to help the needy, the destitutes, the poor and hungry, to help the church etc... not for these "supposed" servants of god to use as their own selfish agenda to buy fancy luxurious motor and private jets! abeg go read your holybook instead of showing your ignorance about your holybook's message!

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 8:43pm On Apr 30, 2022
MrBrownJay1:


someone who can afford it with their own money, and certainly not someone using your "god's name to enrich their selfish self. do you know how many hungry people you can feed with the price of a Rolls Royce, let alone a private jet?!?!? these men are DEMONS in robe, no question about it!
exactly, why does the woman need not buy cheap perfume for Jesus and use the rest to feed the poor? Does Jesus need such expensive perform?



show me one verse in your holybook where jesus used what was given to him, to buy anything luxurious/fancy for his own selfish self...
Jesus does not need to. People bought expensive things for Jesus. He rode on an ass nobody ever rode, Jesus garment was so expensive that the soldiers decide to Shar it among themselves with lot, the sepulcher of Jesus was that of a rich man.
If people decide to give expensive things to Pastors what is that to you?



YES, to help the needy, the destitutes, the poor and hungry, [b]to help the church [/b]etc... not for these "supposed" servants of god to use as their own selfish agenda to buy fancy luxurious motor and private jets! abeg go read your holybook instead of showing your ignorance about your holybook's message!
If they wanted to just help the poor and hungry, they would not have laid their proceeds at the apostles feet. It was the apostles that decide on what it was used for.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by MrBrownJay1(m): 9:00pm On Apr 30, 2022
Steep:
exactly, why does the woman need not buy cheap perfume for Jesus and use the rest to feed the poor? Does Jesus need such expensive perform?

Jesus does not need to. People bought expensive things for Jesus. He rode on an ass nobody ever rode, Jesus garment was so expensive that the soldiers decide to Shar it among themselves with lot, the sepulcher of Jesus was that of a rich man.
If people decide to give expensive things to Pastors what is that to you?

If they wanted to just help the poor and hungry, they would not have laid their proceeds at the apostles feet. It was the apostles that decide on what it was used for.

again, stop looking at this issue UPSIDE DOWN!!! it doesnt matter what people give as offering, whats VERY IMPORTANT is what these "so called" men of god do with these offerings. now, if you believe that these offerings should be used to pay for Rolls Royce and private jets (while billions of xtians still go hungry), then you are more brainwashed than i thought you were.

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by paxonel(m): 11:32pm On Apr 30, 2022
Steep:
Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Tithe is not just a law but a principle, the law of tithe says pay 1/10 of your earning to the priest.
The principle of tithing is that we should not allow the work of God to suffer we should invest carnal things into the things of God.
Hence paying 1/10th is a principle, it is the minimum we give, the early Christians gave all they have to the apostles.

Which of the people complaining about tithe can give all they have? If they cannot give 1/10th (minimum) how can they give all?

Jesus never abolish giving and if the church agree on tithe, then it is signed in heaven.
Matthew 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

Most people don't understand that the church have power, when the church agree on something, Jesus automatically agrees with it, and anyone against it is on his on her own. In as much as it is good, and honorable it is settled.
James has this to say,
James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

For those against tithe, there is one question for you?
Is tithing a good thing or not?
Does it elevate the work of God or not?

If you know it is good and elevate the work of God and you are against it, according to James you have sinned.

Don't be decieved by God haters and christ rejecters, whatever a man sow that shall he also reap


T H I E F!!

O L E!!

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by CyberHustle: 4:06am On May 01, 2022
Tithe is a commonsense thing those against the growth of the church like to attack to stall Gods work. Without it, where will congregants sit? Where will sound and IT system come from? Buildings for meeting to share the word? Funds to support the widows, orphans or disabled?
Even shadowy groups with no official scripture do use their commonsense and contribute for the sake of their basic common needs. Why shouldn't Christians do it when they can see the biblical examples and its effects on the quality their gathering place and gatherings?
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by CyberHustle: 4:11am On May 01, 2022
paxonel:
T H I E F!!

O L E!!
Tithing is freewill practice. Stop calling it theft. Can I force you to pay it? Never. That's why you can oppose it openly. It is the beauty of Christianity. The choice of life or death.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by paxonel(m): 5:38am On May 01, 2022
CyberHustle:
Tithing is freewill practice. Stop calling it theft. Can I force you to pay it? Never. That's why you can oppose it openly. It is the beauty of Christianity. The choice of life or death.
Malachi 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

In that scripture, a curse is placed on the defaulters, and you say it is free will.

How then tithing is free-will??

Do you even know what it means for something to be free-will?
It means, you are free to choose the option of not paying without any harm or curse

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 6:09am On May 01, 2022
MrBrownJay1:


again, stop looking at this issue UPSIDE DOWN!!! it doesnt matter what people give as offering, whats VERY IMPORTANT is what these "so called" men of god do with these offerings. now, if you believe that these offerings should be used to pay for Rolls Royce and private jets (while billions of xtians still go hungry), then you are more brainwashed than i thought you were.
Read again, I m not judging anyone by what they bring little or great provided it comes in faith neither an I condoning filthy lucre (lust for material things), but rather If someone decide to give his or her pastor a royce rolls, why should you condemn it? Real hard working pastors deserve more.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 6:12am On May 01, 2022
paxonel:

Malachi 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

In that scripture, a curse is placed on the defaulters, and you say it is free will.

How then tithing is free-will??

Do you even know what it means for something to be free-will?
It means, you are free to choose the option of not paying without any harm or curse

If you refuse to pay tithe after knowing it is good, it becomes a sin on you.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by jmoore(m): 6:18am On May 01, 2022
THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHE.

Introduction: If your pastors say giving the needy, widows, orphans 10% of your income is not tithe, that you must pay it to him, then you are attending a business centre, not a church.

Malachi is the favourite book most pastors use to preach tithe. And it is very obvious, they use it because it contains a curse for those who don't pay it. Therefore, it is the 'best' verse used to brainwash Christians.

If you want to preach tithing, preach all verses related to it. Most of these men of God know the other verses but the only one they preach to their audience is Malachi. The sheep they are leading are even lazy to read their own bibles to see the truth for themselves. Note that quarter of truth is no truth, truth must be whole. Don’t add, don't remove.

Tithing is an Old Testament concept, just like circumcision and animal sacrifice. Things Christians were meant to abide to have validations from New testament after death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. There is nowhere tithe was clearly instructed in the New Testament after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The New Testament focuses on giving without compulsion. 2 Corinthians 9:7 captured it very well “Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver".

If you believe in tithing, then you should see other verses of the bible to know how it was applied thousands of years ago. Tithes were not for gentiles, it was for the Jews. Tithes were for the Levites, descendants of Levi. How many of your Pastors that preach Malachi to you are descendants of Levi?

There is a particular portion of the bible most pastors will never preach to you, and that can be found in Deut 14.22-29. Tithe was instructed to be given to the strangers, orphans, widows etc. How many pastors can boldly tell their members to give their tithes to widows and those in need?

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by AntiChristian: 6:47am On May 01, 2022
This tithe matter is unending!
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by ajekpaks(m): 6:53am On May 01, 2022
Why is it man always speaking for this supposed God? Man telling fellow men to pay tithe... On behalf of God...

Which Kain wahala be this?
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 7:06am On May 01, 2022
jmoore:
THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHE.

Introduction: If your pastors say giving the needy, widows, orphans 10% of your income is not tithe, that you must pay it to him, then you are attending a business centre, not a church.

Malachi is the favourite book most pastors use to preach tithe. And it is very obvious, they use it because it contains a curse for those who don't pay it. Therefore, it is the 'best' verse used to brainwash Christians.

If you want to preach tithing, preach all verses related to it. Most of these men of God know the other verses but the only one they preach to their audience is Malachi. The sheep they are leading are even lazy to read their own bibles to see the truth for themselves. Note that quarter of truth is no truth, truth must be whole. Don’t add, don't remove.

Tithing is an Old Testament concept, just like circumcision and animal sacrifice. Things Christians were meant to abide to have validations from New testament after death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. There is nowhere tithe was clearly instructed in the New Testament after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The New Testament focuses on giving without compulsion. 2 Corinthians 9:7 captured it very well “Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver".

If you believe in tithing, then you should see other verses of the bible to know how it was applied thousands of years ago. Tithes were not for gentiles, it was for the Jews. Tithes were for the Levites, descendants of Levi. How many of your Pastors that preach Malachi to you are descendants of Levi?

There is a particular portion of the bible most pastors will never preach to you, and that can be found in Deut 14.22-29. Tithe was instructed to be given to the strangers, orphans, widows etc. How many pastors can boldly tell their members to give their tithes to widows and those in need?

The principle of tithing started way before the law was introduced.
If you decide not to tithe it is your cup of tea,
Free will giving, means you are not forced but expected of you to do the right thing, if you sow little you recieve little, if you don't give at all you don't receive.

When you tithe God will rebuke the devourer, so that you can receive your harvest, if you don't give, you are not entitled to recieve hence the devourer will devour the fruit of your ground.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 7:14am On May 01, 2022
Comparing tithing to circumcision is one of the most ignorant, argument against tithing?

In the new testament circumcision is done in the spirit not physical.

We are talking of practical application, tithe is very beneficial to the church, it does not matter how it was done under the law, the church now decied how it should be done to the glory of God. The fact is tithing is a principle that began before the law was introduced even if t was done under the law t makes no difference.
However when it comes to salvation, tithing or not tithing does not save anybody. There is no law that can save anybody only faith in christ alone.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by paxonel(m): 7:29am On May 01, 2022
Steep:


If you refuse to pay tithe after knowing it is good, it becomes a sin on you.
Is there any difference between tithing and giving?

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by jmoore(m): 7:52am On May 01, 2022
Steep:

The principle of tithing started way before the law was introduced.
If you decide not to tithe it is your cup of tea,
Free will giving, means you are not forced but expected of you to do the right thing, if you sow little you recieve little, if you don't give at all you don't receive.

Animal sacrifices started before the law. So, start sacrificing animals to God


Steep:

When you tithe God will rebuke the devourer, so that you can receive your harvest, if you don't give, you are not entitled to recieve hence the devourer will devour the fruit of your ground.

Tithe was never paid with money anywhere in the Bible. Scammers in the pulpit have changed it to money.

Deuteronomy 14:22-23 gives instruction for me to eat my tithe. That's the best option. God will rebuke the devourer if I EAT MY TITHE.

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Steep(m): 8:56am On May 01, 2022
jmoore:


Animal sacrifices started before the law. So, start sacrificing animals to God


before the law, animal were sacrificed as thanks giving to God or an act of appreciation, it wasn't offered for sins.
In the new testament offerings are offered on the basis on what is beneficial to God's people.





Tithe was never paid with money anywhere in the Bible. Scammers in the pulpit have changed it to money.

Deuteronomy 14:22-23 gives instruction for me to eat my tithe. That's the best option. God will rebuke the devourer if I EAT MY TITHE.
who says tithing must be in terms of money only? Anything that would benefit the church good to go. I wonder why you are against what is good!
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by RepoMan007: 12:07pm On May 01, 2022
jmoore:


Animal sacrifices started before the law. So, start sacrificing animals to God



Tithe was never paid with money anywhere in the Bible. Scammers in the pulpit have changed it to money.

Deuteronomy 14:22-23 gives instruction for me to eat my tithe. That's the best option. God will rebuke the devourer if I EAT MY TITHE.
the purpose of animal sacrifice has been perfected with a human sacrifice for all with Jesus. Tithe too like sacrifice for sin went through about 4 or 5 modification in its form of payment. Going back to eating of tithe without reserving animal sacrifices for sins committed is contradictory.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by RepoMan007: 12:16pm On May 01, 2022
jmoore:


Animal sacrifices started before the law. So, start sacrificing animals to God



Tithe was never paid with money anywhere in the Bible. Scammers in the pulpit have changed it to money.

Deuteronomy 14:22-23 gives instruction for me to eat my tithe. That's the best option. God will rebuke the devourer if I EAT MY TITHE.
If you understand money and its purpose, you won't be talking like this. So you expect a tomato seller to bring her tomato tithe to church instead of money. If everyone does that then the church offering basket will be a mess. Money answereth to thing or, to put in a simpler form, facilitates the exchange of things. That makes tithing money a commonsense issue.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:27pm On May 01, 2022
Steep:
If pastors do not deserve Royce rolls who deserve it?

Ha, you have spoken terribly here. Go and look at Exodus 26, you would see that Moses stopped receiving from the people when he had obtained all he required, so a pastor can not be driving Rolls Royce when the people in the community are hungry and homeless.

And it is this action which made Christianity overtake our pagan and traditional practices.

So, you are very wrong here.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:35pm On May 01, 2022
ajekpaks:
Why is it man always speaking for this supposed God? Man telling fellow men to pay tithe... On behalf of God...

Which Kain wahala be this?

If we no tell you, no be "nobody tell me O" you go go talk for Court on Judgement Day?

And the The Judge go tell us "I no tell you, why you no tell am?"

So, we must tell you wetin God talk weda you like am or not or weda you go obey or not.

We no want wahala with God!
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:42pm On May 01, 2022
CyberHustle:
Where will sound and IT system come from? Buildings for meeting to share the word? Funds to support the widows, orphans or disabled? ...

We saw how they started with nothing and yet they were able to preach, so this is no defence.

If the pastors were truly from God, people would stop paying taxes to the government but to the churches.
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by desiredhome: 12:54pm On May 01, 2022
Steep:
If pastors do not deserve Royce rolls who deserve it?
A woman bought one of the most expensive perfume for Jesus and even used her hair and tears to wipe Jesus feet.

People sold houses and lands, all their properties and laid the money at the apostles feet.
Not just pastors, everyone who dedicate their lives into working for The Lord Jesus christ deserves even more.

People who value heavenly things will invest in it, while does who treasure earthly things will invest in it.
People spends millions on clubs, alcohol, prostitute, satanic artist and celebrities, wise people who build the house on the eternal rock spend on eternal profitable things.
The question is are these pastors living/doing like Jesus did? With the high level of corruption/wickedness in our society today, even from the churches? Who are the people engaged in these corruption practices?...

These are the reason poverty is increasing in Nigeria, and we are blindly blaming the government/politicians.........
Taking from the poor to give to the already rich..... Jesus will not collect from the poor instead Jesus said let the rich give to the poor.......
There's something wrong with the way Nigerians in general behave/believe....

You can't go against the law of God and succeed..... I know there are so many gods created by the devil to cause confusion/suffering on earth........
The god of money/greed is what most Nigerian churches operates on, it's called Mammon god....... otherwise with the number of prayers/churches everywhere in Nigeria, Nigeria would've been the best country on this planet.....

Think
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by jmoore(m): 1:05pm On May 01, 2022
RepoMan007:

If you understand money and its purpose, you won't be talking like this. So you expect a tomato seller to bring her tomato tithe to church instead of money. If everyone does that then the church offering basket will be a mess. Money answereth to thing or, to put in a simpler form, facilitates the exchange of things. That makes tithing money a commonsense issue.


Common sense should have told you some people earned money in the old testament.

Common sense should have told you currency existed in the Bible.


But the spirit of scammers in pulpit has beclouded you.


You deliberately forgot to respond to "Eating tithe". You never knew the Bible instructed you can eat your tithe.

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Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by jmoore(m): 1:08pm On May 01, 2022
RepoMan007:
the purpose of animal sacrifice has been perfected with a human sacrifice for all with Jesus. Tithe too like sacrifice for sin went through about 4 or 5 modification in its form of payment. Going back to eating of tithe without reserving animal sacrifices for sins committed is contradictory.

Where did any apostle pay tithe?
Be careful on how you tell lies!!
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by desiredhome: 2:58pm On May 01, 2022
CyberHustle:
Tithe is a commonsense thing those against the growth of the church like to attack to stall Gods work. Without it, where will congregants sit? Where will sound and IT system come from? Buildings for meeting to share the word? Funds to support the widows, orphans or disabled?
Even shadowy groups with no official scripture do use their commonsense and contribute for the sake of their basic common needs. Why shouldn't Christians do it when they can see the biblical examples and its effects on the quality their gathering place and gatherings?
A.
God is not a criminal....stop blackmailing God...
You people value material things over human, there should be life first before any other things......
It's only in Nigeria that we most praying, fasting, churches etc yet the Capita of poverty in the world........
My God is not an author of confusion....
Re: In Defense Of Tithing. by OkCornel(m): 3:10pm On May 01, 2022
Steep:

Jesus never abolish giving and if the church agree on tithe, then it is signed in heaven.
Matthew 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

Most people don't understand that the church have power, when the church agree on something, Jesus automatically agrees with it, and anyone against it is on his on her own.


Per the bolded, are you really serious?

Did Jesus agree with the Satanic doctrines (teachings of Balaam and the deeds of the Nicolaitans) prevalent in the church of Pergamum? Revelation 2 v 14-16

Secondly, where did God request tithes be paid monetarily?

Also, after the first church council meeting held in Acts 15, was it required of Gentile believers to practice tithing?

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