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Re: Apostle Paul Vs James (faith Vs Work) What Did Jesus Really Teach? by Emusan(m): 3:56pm On Apr 19, 2022 |
haekymbahd: It just so unfortunate that you don't know what you're talking about. You lied that Paul claims "WORK" is useless. From the Scripture you cited, it was "work of THE LAW" that keeps coming up. So how did you reduce it to just WORK? Could it be ignorance or dishonest in you? New King James Version Look at the @color parts and see whether you understand what you're saying or just decided to attack a strawman argument. Now James beleives otherwise now James was said to be brother of Jesus while Apostle never met Jesus while on earth he said: What James and Paul are addressing are of two different things. Paul is teaching transition from the old LAW to NEW CHRIST JESUS while James is teaching on evidence of faith through work What did Jesus really say about this do christians work? Your answer is in that @color part, even though you quoted that scripture but it's evident you don't understand what you quoted. Go and search on articles that have dealt with "The Law in foreshadow of Christ Jesus." Or better read this epic one Here! |
Re: Apostle Paul Vs James (faith Vs Work) What Did Jesus Really Teach? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:08pm On Apr 19, 2022 |
AntiChristian: You have seen that Paul restated Psalm 127 which is work and faith, so this is just you talking rubbish. |
Re: Apostle Paul Vs James (faith Vs Work) What Did Jesus Really Teach? by Acehart: 8:59am On May 02, 2022 |
AntiChristian: You said, “ If he does not believe in him will he call him Good Master/Teacher”. According to this deduction of yours, please tell me whether the people in the verse I am going to quote believed Jesus because the called him Master: 12And they sought to lay hold on him, but feared the people: for they knew that he had spoken the parable against them: and they left him, and went their way. 13 And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words. 14 And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? I’d like to ask you this for the second time: What are the requirements of the Law? How did Jesus fulfill the requirements of the Law and the prophets? Has any other man fulfilled the requirements? Has any other man fulfilled the law and the prophets? |
Re: Apostle Paul Vs James (faith Vs Work) What Did Jesus Really Teach? by AntiChristian: 9:15am On May 02, 2022 |
Acehart: The one I was referring to was the person that asked Jesus about eternal life. Not the hypocrites you brought.
Jesus said he never came to abolish the law and the Prophets in Matthew 5:17. He has fulfilled his part and did left the rest for the last Prophet who came after him in the name of Muhammad. And that's the seal of prophethood. |
Re: Apostle Paul Vs James (faith Vs Work) What Did Jesus Really Teach? by Kobojunkie: 1:29am On Apr 05, 2023 |
haekymbahd:I am afraid your comprehension of what is where the problem lies here. What Paul instead insists below is that it is not by works gathered from the following the Old Law of Moses that one is justified but instead through faith (trust and obedience aka works) in Jesus Christ that they would be justified. 15 We are Jews by birth. We were not born “sinners,” as we call those who are not Jews.Trusting in Jesus Christ, which is what Paul was advocating in place of following the Old Law in the passage above, entails living one's life in submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - John 14 vs 15 -20. 2. James' writing in the passage below is focused rather on explaining to his fellow believers that it is utterly futile to claim with one's mouth that one has faith in Jesus Christ all the while refusing to obey the very teachings and commandments of God — do works. 14 My brothers and sisters, if a person claims(by mouth) to have faith but does nothing, that faith is worth nothing. Faith like that cannot save anyone.In verses 15 - 16, James uses a particular commandment given by Jesus Christ to His followers to explain exactly this. He did this by explaining that it is like one who claims by mouth to be a follower of Jesus Christ yet refuses to do exactly that which the Lord commands in Matthew 5 vs 42 — Give to the one who asks you and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you . Such a one is worthless as a follower of Jesus Christ and his claim to have faith is of lie. 3. The passage you quoted from the Gospels Matthews 5 vs 15 - 18 is Jesus Christ explaining that He did not come to abolish the Old Law of Moses as that Law stands as the Constitutional Law of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan for eternity as God decreed. Jesus Christ, as He explained in that context did not come at all to change the Constitution. Instead, He came from God with an agreement different and separate from that. Jesus Christ is instead the Constitutional Law and agreement in God's special Nation of Priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 - aka the Kingdom of God — a Nation that is not of this world. As you can clearly see, you misconstrued what is in fact written in the various writings and this problem is common when you go with attempting to push your preconceived ideas in between the lines of what is in fact written. |
Re: Apostle Paul Vs James (faith Vs Work) What Did Jesus Really Teach? by Kobojunkiee: 9:40pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
haekymbahd:Work refers to obedience of God's given Law and teachings. It does not matter what Christians do with their lives as God's mandate is not weighed against what men do with their lives and time. |
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