komekn:


IF is a very big word.

You don't predict life by location and differing circumstances. It's your life experiences that form your character not the other way round.

How do you know that Victor O, would not have ended up as die hard drug dealer running tings in Hackney East London with no interest in football what so ever.

If Victor with his limited technical ability had not gone through hell fire of life experiences in Lagos. He would not have had the die hard mental resilience to overcome all his challenges in life and succeed the way he has , against all odds.

Life is not so predictable.

Only God can do that, he who knows the end of things from the beginning.

TheLoneCitizen:


Really, brother?

Iheanacho versus the most similar world class player to him since 2020/21: Harry Kane

Per minute

Goals:
Kane: 0.54
Iheanacho: 0.56

Assists:
Kane: 0.33
Iheanacho: 0.25

G/A:
Kane: 0.84
Iheanacho: 0.81

Chances created:
Kane: 1.4
Iheanacho: 1.54

Clear cut chances created:
Kane: 0.47
Iheanacho: 0.35

Successful dribbles:
Kane: 1.49
Iheanacho: 1.56

Dribble success rate:
Kane: 52%
Iheanacho: 62.5%

Expected goals (no penalty):
Kane: 0.49
Iheanacho: 0.38

Actual goals - Expected goals:
Kane: -2.1
Iheanacho: +5.6

The only reason that site compared him to Havertz is because they are both left-footed, or else the negroid is clear.

Respect the senior man.

komekn:


Mitrovich just scored 43 goals in one season the highest number of goals in the history of the second tier.

Fulham have scored over 100 goals in a season in the Championship.

Look at the quality of players it's no Fluke, Liverpool tried to buy their 19 year old Midfielder in January but have hot him now on a pre contract.

If you do very well in the Championship every top level team in Europe will look at it you. Unlike no other second tier league in Europe.

Fulham just beat Luton Town 7-0

Fulham is not better than Napoli in my opinion however, would Napoli beat them in a match, l really don't know.

Food for thought Anguissa a sure starter for Napoli was let go on loan. Not wanted by the Manager.

Joebie:
Very balanced analysis. This talk of opportunities is very infantile to me. Talk football and leave it at that.

komekn:


Misrepresentation and misinformation using statistics to create a convulated Idea that a player is much better than he is.

FACT - In the 2021/22 season KC has played 24 games and scored 4 goals. You really cannot dress this up ,it's simply abysmal and very poor, for a foreward players some have claimed here is exceptional quality.

komekn:


Misrepresentation and misinformation using statistics to create a convulated Idea that a player is much better than he is.

FACT - In the 2021/22 season KC has played 24 games and scored 4 goals. You really cannot dress this up ,it's simply abysmal and very poor, for a foreward players some have claimed here is exceptional quality.

TFLASHOGEE:

TheGoodJoe:


What is infantile? Opportunity is part of football. If you get a chance and you have it, you can do well. If you do not get the chance, you will take time to blow.

Being English and from Chelsea academy is one of the reasons Tammy broke into Chelsea earlier. That gave him the chance to show his talent. Lampard also gave him that opportunity to show his work.

So, when they are talking of HISTORY, that Tammy has scored 100 goals and Osimhen has not, it is actually infantile to forget about that Opportunity played a part in Tammy having an early start. It is also neglect the fact of Osimhen also battling injuries, coming from a tough background to have the kind of start Tammy had.

This is a fact, and this is football. If you want balanced analysis, you take as much factors as you can. Not jus saying that someone has scored this amount of goals over the years.

komekn:


Mitrovich just scored 43 goals in one season the highest number of goals in the history of the second tier.

Fulham have scored over 100 goals in a season in the Championship.

Look at the quality of players it's no Fluke, Liverpool tried to buy their 19 year old Midfielder in January but have hot him now on a pre contract.

If you do very well in the Championship every top level team in Europe will look at it you. Unlike no other second tier league in Europe.

Fulham just beat Luton Town 7-0

Fulham is not better than Napoli in my opinion however, would Napoli beat them in a match, l really don't know.

Food for thought Anguissa a sure starter for Napoli was let go on loan. Not wanted by the Manager.

TheGoodJoe:


What is infantile? Opportunity is part of football. If you get a chance and you have it, you can do well. If you do not get the chance, you will take time to blow.

Being English and from Chelsea academy is one of the reasons Tammy broke into Chelsea earlier. That gave him the chance to show his talent. Lampard also gave him that opportunity to show his work.

So, when they are talking of HISTORY, that Tammy has scored 100 goals and Osimhen has not, it is actually infantile to forget about that Opportunity played a part in Tammy having an early start. It is also neglect the fact of Osimhen also battling injuries, coming from a tough background to have the kind of start Tammy had.

This is a fact, and this is football. If you want balanced analysis, you take as much factors as you can. Not jus saying that someone has scored this amount of goals over the years.

TFLASHOGEE:
bro abeg die this matter know be all European born player's find it Rosy to success and know be all African players have Grass to grace stories, every one has thier challenging story that lead's them to success

Joebie:
Talk about injuries a season or two. But even this factor will not fly over a course of time during one’s football career. However mentioning a footballer’s years growing up as a lad to support why they succeed or fail season after season are talks that should be left to the kitchen table. TheGoodJoe you MAY get away with saying this on Nigerian media but no go embarrass Nigerians as an analyst in the International scene. Anyways this is NairaLand.

So listen to Komekn. If you switch Osimhen and Tammy’s childhood circumstances, no one can tell what would be the outcome. So it’s totally pointless. Mind you I’m not even saying Tammy was better this season. I’m not into this argument. I’m just dismayed by your logic.

TheGoodJoe:


King of Vawulence, we have not even started. There is no club in Nigeria that has an academy like Swansea. Swansea's academy is moi moi. We do not have the structure. We do not have the foundation. You have a far better chance there than here.

None, I repeat, none of those players in England hawked water to feed their families. The difference is too much.

Shun Vawulence, I come in peace.

TFLASHOGEE:
bro abeg die this matter know be all European born player's find it Rosy to success and know be all African players have Grass to grace stories, every one has thier challenging story that lead's them to success

TheGoodJoe:


I repeat, the discussion is 100 goals so far. If we are talking when both players have stabilized and we want to compare them, I am all for it.

However, opportunity played a big role in the early start players like Tammy get. The point might not fly in Europe because they lack zero idea of the challenges an African football kid gets.

Look at the picture below, he could not play for Arsenal because of work permit despite his immense talent. Yaya had to go on a journey which an English kid would have walked into Arsenal.

That is a fact. Our players find it tougher in the start. So that is why Tammy leads in goals.

komekn:


Misrepresentation and misinformation using statistics to create a convulated Idea that a player is much better than he is.

FACT - In the 2021/22 season KC has played 24 games and scored 4 goals. You really cannot dress this up ,it's simply abysmal and very poor, for a foreward players some have claimed here is exceptional quality.

Kog45:
Sir,Taiye Taiwo,Kanu Nwankwo,Finidi George and Celestine Babayaro hit it straight landing in Europe....Tammy 100 career goals is not about being born in UK,he works for it cos we have many talented players in UK that couldn't measure up.Ademola Lookman was a mere street footballer but with hard work and dedication he is doing well now.

Sir,we have many Osimehns in Nigeria who are into yahoo yahoo and drugs in Nigeria,so we cannot say what future hold.

TheLoneCitizen:


Sometimes, you have to pretend to think, my good man.

Half of those 24 games were under 20 mins, yet he sits top 5 in goal contributions at Leicester.

Kog45:
Sir,Taiye Taiwo,Kanu Nwankwo,Finidi George and Celestine Babayaro hit it straight landing in Europe....Tammy 100 career goals is not about being born in UK,he works for it cos we have many talented players in UK that couldn't measure up.Ademola Lookman was a mere street footballer but with hard work and dedication he is doing well now.

Sir,we have many Osimehns in Nigeria who are into yahoo yahoo and drugs in Nigeria,so we cannot say what future hold.

Osimehn had the opportunity early with Wolfsburg.I want to say he find it difficult adapting not about injury.....Osimehn games is more than goal scoring alone and Napoli spending $80m on 13 goals striker a season should tell us there is more to his game.

Kog45:
Sir,Taiye Taiwo,Kanu Nwankwo,Finidi George and Celestine Babayaro hit it straight landing in Europe....Tammy 100 career goals is not about being born in UK,he works for it cos we have many talented players in UK that couldn't measure up.Ademola Lookman was a mere street footballer but with hard work and dedication he is doing well now.

Sir,we have many Osimehns in Nigeria who are into yahoo yahoo and drugs in Nigeria,so we cannot say what future hold.

Osimehn had the opportunity early with Wolfsburg.I want to say he find it difficult adapting not about injury.....Osimehn games is more than goal scoring alone and Napoli spending $80m on 13 goals striker a season should tell us there is more to his game.

TheGoodJoe:


Which clubs are you talking of? Apart from Kanu, how many made a big break in a top club in Europe in their teens?

Taiye Taiwo was from U20, that is late to what we are talking of.

I am not saying they had it easy. I am not saying it was a walk in the park but I am saying their environment gives them an edge.

It is difficult for an African kid to have the kind of break Tammy Abraham had at Chelsea. Tammy was 18 years old when he had that break to play in a team like Chelsea. It takes a high degree of fortune to make it from Africa, especially Nigeria.

If Osimhen was born in London and grew through their academy system, he would have been far ahead in career goals than he has now. That is the point.

If Iheanacho did not break into our academy system based on the special talent clause, he would not have had that early break in Manchester City.

This is what these kids are born into.

Kog45:
IF

TheGoodJoe:


I repeat, the discussion is 100 goals so far. If we are talking when both players have stabilized and we want to compare them, I am all for it.

However, opportunity played a big role in the early start players like Tammy get. The point might not fly in Europe because they lack zero idea of the challenges an African football kid gets.

Look at the picture below, he could not play for Arsenal because of work permit despite his immense talent. Yaya had to go on a journey which an English kid would have walked into Arsenal.

That is a fact. Our players find it tougher in the start. So that is why Tammy leads in goals.

Kog45:
Iheanacho just need to move to a club that would appreciate him more without that his contribution to the team would always end up in debating.

Less minutes or not he had 24 games so far and 4 goals.Yes top 5 in Leicester,Tammy was highest goal scorer with Chelsea last season despite frozen out of the team.

Iheabacho should just do the needful and move if he want to be rated like Sallah or Mane.

TheGoodJoe:


You are talking Taiwo, Kanu, Finidi George, we are talking hundreds of kids in England with golden opportunities to make it. It is not the same.

Starboytwo:
I still have guys who are training everyday till this day, hoping some miracle will happen and go to Europe not even npfl. Last time I had a dream of such was maybe 2015-16. I simply moved to other things(although very painful as football was everyone’s dream in my hood) it’s extremely hard to breakout unless you are insanely good.

I was a little privileged cuz all I had to do was wake and go to training, come back with half of my teammates and we cook beans and do Garri. Nap, play game and go to the field again by 4:30pm. For many of my team mates, 2 particular have to train in the morning, then go and do car wash before he gotta eat, then train again in the evening, only God knows how he do dinner.

It’s very hard to break out, only a handful gets to even travel, not even about having a great career at all. No structure, no plan, only train, hard work, faith and hope. I have an old group photo, about 30 of us, only Rashidat Ajibade ever made it out. Rest are still playing grassroots, 1 particularly(one of the best strikers I have seen) Ezekiel, so good he would definitely be a professional if he was in Uk, is now a thug At iyana Iba collecting dues. Shakes head.how many I wan talk.

I’m only buttressing the point my oga made, I’m not trading blame or anything, I’m also a victim too. If there was a working system, a working progression of talents from u8,10,12, etc. before you get to under 15 the better ones are identified and worked on. Even if it’s not Europe, the local league should be an Avenue many truly young players have some kind of career. Mehn, many footballers waste for my set. Damn. Many are still wasting.

TheLoneCitizen:


There's nothing like "less minutes or not."

If a player is brought on for 5 minutes in every game of the season, it is going to be counted to him as 38 games played.

Is it right to use those numbers to judge a player's season?

komekn:


Misrepresentation and misinformation using statistics to create a convulated Idea that a player is much better than he is.

FACT - In the 2021/22 season KC has played 24 games and scored 4 goals. You really cannot dress this up ,it's simply abysmal and very poor, for a foreward players some have claimed here is exceptional quality.

komekn:


Mitrovich just scored 43 goals in one season the highest number of goals in the history of the second tier.

Fulham have scored over 100 goals in a season in the Championship.

Look at the quality of players it's no Fluke, Liverpool tried to buy their 19 year old Midfielder in January but have hot him now on a pre contract.

If you do very well in the Championship every top level team in Europe will look at it you. Unlike no other second tier league in Europe.

Fulham just beat Luton Town 7-0

Fulham is not better than Napoli in my opinion however, would Napoli beat them in a match, l really don't know.

Food for thought Anguissa a sure starter for Napoli was let go on loan. Not wanted by the Manager.

TheGoodJoe:


IF is the opportunity. Tammy had the IF, Osimhen did not have the IF.

As I said, give both their props. Do not denigrate one because the other had a better opportunity.