Kog45:
Sir,do we need to even compared UK and Nigeria talking about opportunities.

Osimehn, Nwakili, Awoniyi, Iheanacho, Ndidi, Success, Chuckwueze should thank their stars that they are able to arrive Europe early to develop their skills than languishing in a system where nobody care about grassroots development but always looking for shortcuts.

andrewbaba44:


Kc is a good player and the fan’s even prefer him to daka

Even when Kc scored 19 goal in all competition last season you where hiding your coconut head in shame

Kog45:
I rate Osimehn than Tammy but there is nothing like better opportunity.In life opportunities can come from anywhere even in the slum.

Emma Olisadebe was mere university campus footballer but under two years he landed in Europe and funny enough played for Poland team in 2002 WC

TheGoodJoe:


We should also keep in mind the role Patrick Vieira played for Iheanacho. I doubt a white English coach would have opted to switch Iheanacho to a striker and made him the attention of the team. Nacho also had some good fortune. Vieira and Pelegrini really assisted him too.

superbloke:
I've seen this type of comment several times on Twitter and I wonder if guys here will show the same energy as when similar coments are made about Osimhen's performance.

https://twitter.com/juve_canal/status/1521176844585914369?t=scrupou57FCFJ-G5_LawTA&s=19

Kog45:
If right club for Iheanacho he should move

Kog45:
Honestly PEP failed Iheanacho..till now I don't know why he sold Nacho.

TheGoodJoe:


My take is Iheanacho should have stayed. Iheanacho should have battled whoever led that attack.

I still wish today Iheanacho stayed. He was a real gift to our club.

Either way, he still needs to keep pushing. He has really come of age this season. I hope he made the right choices.

Even Gabriel Jesus who Guardiola prefered did not find it easy in the club.

andrewbaba44:

The question is will he move ?

Kog45:
Yes you are right cos I remember you are against his moved to Leicester.

The issue now is about his wages.

Kog45:
Honestly he just need to move if he is really serious about personal achievement but looking at the financial aspect of it,trust naija boy nau.

andrewbaba44:


The Warey is still scoring and have still average 1 goal in every 2 games since joining juve

superbloke:

Sure, but since joining Juve, he's not been as prolific as he used to be and fans are saying it's because of Juve's style of play. My point is that it's the same thing some people say about Osimhen and Napoli but it's easily taken as sentimental because he's Nigerian. Just wanted to point out the similarities. I'm not saying the opinion is valid Sha. Just pointing it out.

superbloke:

Sure, but since joining Juve, he's not been as prolific as he used to be and fans are saying it's because of Juve's style of play. My point is that it's the same thing some people say about Osimhen and Napoli but it's easily taken as sentimental because he's Nigerian. Just wanted to point out the similarities. I'm not saying the opinion is valid Sha. Just pointing it out.

komekn:


Misrepresentation and misinformation using statistics to create a convulated Idea that a player is much better than he is.

FACT - In the 2021/22 season KC has played 24 games and scored 4 goals. You really cannot dress this up ,it's simply abysmal and very poor, for a foreward players some have claimed here is exceptional quality.

andrewbaba44:


Kc is a good player and the fan’s even prefer him to daka

Even when Kc scored 19 goal in all competition last season you where hiding your coconut head in shame

TheGoodJoe:


Thank you for the emotional post. I feel your pain and saw some kids in a street academy with the same pain, although a few of them broke to Europe and some Asia. They are doing fine for themselves but was not easy. However, a large chunk of them, about 90% of them did not make it. Sad because these were genuine talents.

Now we move to England, many clubs, from the Premier League to the Championship and lower leagues, offer these kids these golden opportunities. They have a working system in each club.

Look at London, where you have Chelsea, Arsenal, West Ham, Tottenham, and it goes to clubs in the Championship like Fulham, even to the lower leagues. Teams like Barnsley.

All in one City with academies given kids opportunities to work and earn a living by following their dreams.

The gap is not the same. Anyone who thinks it is, needs to have a rethink.

Thank you again.

chrisooblog:
Preach bro preach! This wonderful points you have raised is why sometimes I give guys like Osimhen, Chukwueze even Nwakali (ok I lie ) the benefit of the doubt because unlike their counterparts in Europe they didn't develop in world class environments, which includes cutting edge facilities, best of coaching, nutritionist/dietician, mentoring from world class players during training and on and on like.

Guys like Osimhen need all the backing they can get. People should not misunderstand me I'm not saying we should pamper or condone mediocrity when we see it in Nigerian born players but our criticism should encourage not condemn. Look at Iheanacho for instance. Komekn was on the boy's case to the extent he downgraded his talent saying he's championship level. Thank God last season he showed what he can do even as poor he has been this season we can all see the quality. That ill-fated Ghana match if M.Simon had buried the chance KC gave him we probably won't be having to collectively chest the L of our failure to qualify for the world cup.

No one can predict how any Nigerian born player will turn out if he was born in a conducive environment but it will be disingenuous to say the better environment will not give him/her a statistical better fighting chance.

do4luv14:




which kind preach,

been observing his take on such issues and it's like, they did never had a struggle, or everything was laid for them,

preach indeed

do4luv14:




which kind preach,

been observing his take on such issues and it's like, they did never had a struggle, or everything was laid for them,

preach indeed

superbloke:
I've seen this type of comment several times on Twitter and I wonder if guys here will show the same energy as when similar coments are made about Osimhen's performance.

https://twitter.com/juve_canal/status/1521176844585914369?t=scrupou57FCFJ-G5_LawTA&s=19

chrisooblog:
You can not compare foreign born players struggle to Nigerian born players. For instance 7-9 years ago Osimhen was selling pure water in traffic, could barely afford football boots for training. While Abraham's struggle was just how to make it in the academy, worries about training kits or where his next meal will come from didn't cross his mind.

TheGoodJoe:


My take is Iheanacho should have stayed. Iheanacho should have battled whoever led that attack.

I still wish today Iheanacho stayed. He was a real gift to our club.

Either way, he still needs to keep pushing. He has really come of age this season. I hope he made the right choices.

Even Gabriel Jesus who Guardiola prefered did not find it easy in the club.

daveP:



Notice that the guy is addressing the crapPy creativity in the Juve team. Osimhen is having such problem. But we rather want to roast and turn him to burnt offering than address the main issues. Let's call a spade a spade abeg.


Im not a big fan of the hype he gets but Juve and Napoli are abysmal when it comes to creativity.


Its on here that many praised Vlah for working with the teammates and used it to spite Victor. Well well, He's faced with the same issue Vic is having. Funny thing is we know who is more technical between the two, but reality is reality.

TheGoodJoe:


Please, Vlahovic's tactical acumen was used as a point of reference of where Osimhen can improve, and not to spite him.

Actually, Osimhen has showed impressive improvements in his movements and reading of spaces.

daveP:


We GWG fans won't have liked that.


We complained that he needs playing time and should move. He did eventually. Now he's overstaying at Leicester

Thing is we can't say if Pep liked his style. We can't just base it on chance that he'd have seen Game time in that position especially as Pep had a money chest he can use anyday. No guarantee for playing time.

TheGoodJoe:


How do you equate having an opportunity to no struggle? Opportunity is a means or support system to help you surmount your struggles.

We have less opportunities here. It is as simple as that.

TheGoodJoe:


I think this is the point you are trying to make. While one is looking for money to buy boots to train and time to train. An equally motivated kid in England has more than enough boots. That is the least of his worries.

19-year-old Chelsea prospect, Ola Aina donates all his old football boots and kits to teams in Nigeria

This was how Aina won my heart.

daveP:
Unless you didn't see it. Both happened on here. It was more than a point of reference.


Seeing the Tammy debate currently, months from now, i hope its not merely called a POR.

TheGoodJoe:
This screenshot from a website on Vlahovic explains in a nutshell what is missing from Osimhen's game.


https://cultofcalcio.com/player-analysis-dusan-vlahovic-fiorentinas-strike-sensation/

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Osimhen does tactically well when his team is not with the ball. I think that was what drew Amunike to him. However, he needs to apply the same ideology when his side is with the ball.

Keep opening for passes. When a team mate is with the ball, open for him to find an easy pass. Instead of running and attacking defenders.

Defenders today are so good at marking that trying to attack in where they are covering makes it difficult to score.

chrisooblog:
I had Aina in mind when I mentioned the football boots part. Imagine oh an academy kid has access to tons of kits, boots yakpa why won't he have piece of mind to do well?

do4luv14:



what's your definition of opportunity