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Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Workch: 10:31am On May 02, 2022
Did you ever notice that miracles got smaller over time? First the god made the whole universe. Then it went down to parting the Red Sea. Then it went down to Jesus healing one blind man. Now we see nothing that can be proven. And it is because as time moved along, smart people and documentation, and eventually cameras stifled the unbelievable.

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by yuping(m): 10:50am On May 02, 2022
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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by otipoju(m): 11:15am On May 02, 2022
Workch:
Did you ever notice that miracles got smaller over time? First the god made the whole universe. Then it went down to parting the Red Sea. Then it went down to Jesus healing one blind man. Now we see nothing that can be proven. And it is because as time moved along, smart people and documentation, and eventually cameras stifled the unbelievable.

If God does not exist, why are you so obsessed with the idea?

Rest!!

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by cornelboy(f): 11:18am On May 02, 2022
Says an athiest lol.

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Workch: 11:18am On May 02, 2022
otipoju:


If God does not exist, why are you so obsessed with the idea?

Rest!!
If God doesn't exist why are majority bent on making all of us accept his existence.

Religion has to be killed, it's a virus

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 11:22am On May 02, 2022
cornelboy:
Says an athiest lol.

Says a believer lol
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by otipoju(m): 11:25am On May 02, 2022
Workch:
If God doesn't exist why are majority bent on making all of us accept his existence.

Religion has to be killed, it's a virus

I wish you good luck. Dont die a frustrated soul.
You dont believe in God, fine. Live and let live.

You are guilty of the same thing you accuse the Christian proselytes of.

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Workch: 11:38am On May 02, 2022
otipoju:


I wish you good luck. Dont die a frustrated soul.
You dont believe in God, fine. Live and let live.

You are guilty of the same thing you accuse the Christian proselytes of.
Lol, you are the peson dying in frustration and your imaginary friend won't save cheesy

When they can't provide evidence for their God, they start attacking you cheesy
Religion must die for Africa to be free. It's hindering our progress and the mantra started cheesy

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by otipoju(m): 11:51am On May 02, 2022
Workch:
Lol, you are the peson dying in frustration and your imaginary friend won't save cheesy

When they can't provide evidence for their God, they start attacking you cheesy
Religion must die for Africa to be free. It's hindering our progress and the mantra started cheesy

No wahala. I no get your time. You are an attention seeker . There is freedom of religion as an enshrined fundamental human right. You can choose to believe in anything. They are entitled to believe in God just the way you have a right not to believe in God.

Live and let live.

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:03pm On May 02, 2022
Workch:
Did you ever notice that miracles got smaller over time? First the god made the whole universe. Then it went down to parting the Red Sea. Then it went down to Jesus healing one blind man. Now we see nothing that can be proven. And it is because as time moved along, smart people and documentation, and eventually cameras stifled the unbelievable.

Simple! Because that's what God is supposed to do.

A king only needs to acts Once! After that, it is consequences that would follow.
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 12:04pm On May 02, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Simple! Because that's what God is supposed to do.

A king only needs to acts Once! After that, it is consequences that would follow.


Your god is one timer grin

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Workch: 12:46pm On May 02, 2022
otipoju:


No wahala. I no get your time. You are an attention seeker . There is freedom of religion as an enshrined fundamental human right. You can choose to believe in anything. They are ed entitled to it just the way you have a right not to believe.

Live and let live.
Why is it so difficult to just unbelieve unprovable shits?

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 1:40pm On May 02, 2022
A fool says in his heart that there is no God Psalm 14:1. So, brethren, I would like you not to be fooled.

It is God almighty who created the whole universe through his power Genesis 1:1.

My Dear, your writings show that you lack true experience in life.

You are still doubting the existence of God up to this moment of your life. May the devil be put to shame and may your soul be snatched out of hell fire now in Jesus name. Amen

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 1:42pm On May 02, 2022
emmanuelonwe:
A fool says in his heart that there is no God Psalm 14:1. So, brethren, I would like you not to be fooled.

It is God almighty who created the whole universe through his power Genesis 1:1.

My Dear, your writings show that you lack true experience in life.

You are still doubting the existence of God up to this moment of your life. May the devil be put to shame and may your soul be snatched out of hell fire now in Jesus name. Amen

A bigger fool says in his heart yahweh is God.

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by mii4u(f): 3:05pm On May 02, 2022
otipoju:


If God does not exist, why are you so obsessed with the idea?

Rest!!
Pls ask him again
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Workch: 9:12pm On May 02, 2022
emmanuelonwe:
A fool says in his heart that there is no God Psalm 14:1. So, brethren, I would like you not to be fooled.

It is God almighty who created the whole universe through his power Genesis 1:1.

My Dear, your writings show that you lack true experience in life.

You are still doubting the existence of God up to this moment of your life. May the devil be put to shame and may your soul be snatched out of hell fire now in Jesus name. Amen
a fool says in his heart that there's no invincible pink unicorn

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 11:41am On May 03, 2022
Maynman:


A bigger fool says in his heart yahweh is God.

Let me remind you that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom - Proverbs 9:10.

You posted a link talking about Israelites worshipping Yahweh alongside other gods. But the bible clearly teaches that God hates idolatory: "I am the Lord thy God worship no other god but me" - Exodus 20:3. Now, even though some of the Israelites sinned against God by worshipping other gods, it is not a pointer that the Israelite nation were at one time polytheistic.

It is wrong for atheists to try to subvert the truth about God in other to mislead those who will perish, confer 2 thessalonians 2:9-10. With the things happening in the world today, we need God more than ever did in the past.

We may not have every knowledge at a time concerning God but we should have as it is in the words of Anselm "faith seeking understanding".
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 12:21pm On May 03, 2022
emmanuelonwe:


Let me remind you that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom - Proverbs 9:10.

You posted a link talking about Israelites worshipping Yahweh alongside other God's. But the bible clearly teaches that God hates idolatory: "I am the Lord thy God worship no other god but me" - Exodus 20:3. Now, even though some of the Israelites sinned against God by worshipping other gods, it is not a pointer that the Israelite nation were at one time polytheistic.

It is wrong for etheists to try to subvert the truth about God in other to mislead people, no. With the things happening in the world today, we need God more than ever did in the past.

We may not have every knowledge at a time concerning God but we should have as it is in the words of Anselm "faith seeking understanding".


The Bible means collection of books, where did the Christians see those books from?
And hope you know ELOHIM is different from Yahweh?
Yahweh na small boy which some laymen were worshipping.
It’s you that is worshipping Yahweh(idol) instead of worshipping is father and mother, Elohim and asheerah.

And you don’t use faith to seek understanding, you use knowledge. You go school na? Na faith dem dey use teach you for school?

Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 12:28pm On May 03, 2022
Maynman:


The Bible means collection of books, where did the Christians see those books from?
And hope you know ELOHIM is different from Yahweh?
Yahweh na small boy which some laymen were worshipping.
It’s you that is worshipping Yahweh instead of worshipping is father and mother, Elohim and asheerah.

And you don’t use faith to seek understanding, you use knowledge. You go school na? Na faith dem dey use teach you for school?

How can you seek to understand when your mind is closed against the truth. It means you have already drawn conclusion. untill you humble yourself and have faith the things about God will remain elusive to you.
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 12:30pm On May 03, 2022
emmanuelonwe:


How can you seek to understand when your mind is closed against the truth. It means you have already drawn conclusion. untill you humble yourself and have faith the things about God will remain elusive to you.

The same thing can be said about you.
Instead of you to open your mind and search for truth, you’ve been indoctrinated by your shepherd.

If you read history well, you’ll know the god Israelites worshipped and it’s not Yahweh. It’s EL.
Where did Yahweh come from?

Your Yahweh better remain elusive to Me, or else I’ll spank him and report him to his mother, asheerah.
Think for yourself and cut off the chains of religion, sheep. grin

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Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 12:35pm On May 03, 2022
Maynman:


The same thing can be said about you.
Instead of you to open your mind and search for truth, you’ve been indoctrinated by your shepherd.

If you read history well, you’ll know the god Israelites worshipped and it’s not Yahweh. It’s EL.
Where did Yahweh come from?

Your Yahweh better remain elusive to Me, or else I’ll spank him and report him to his mother, asheerah.
Think for yourself and cut off the chains of religion, sheep. grin


Let me ask: where will you spend your eternity?
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 12:36pm On May 03, 2022
Maynman:


The same thing can be said about you.
Instead of you to open your mind and search for truth, you’ve been indoctrinated by your shepherd.

If you read history well, you’ll know the god Israelites worshipped and it’s not Yahweh. It’s EL.
Where did Yahweh come from?

Your Yahweh better remain elusive to Me, or else I’ll spank him and report him to his mother, asheerah.
Think for yourself and cut off the chains of religion, sheep. grin


Let me ask: where will you spend your eternity?
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 12:40pm On May 03, 2022
emmanuelonwe:



Let me ask: where will you spend your eternity?

I don’t know, and that does not mean I should accept any answer without investigating.
Your Yahweh is the last thing that’s gonna happen I asssure you.
If you are talking about El. El from elohim and EL from Eledumare, then you are on almost on point.
But that Yahweh I swear on Yahweh na small boy grin
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 12:58pm On May 03, 2022
Maynman:


I don’t know, and that does not mean I should accept any answer without investigating.
Your Yahweh is the last thing that’s gonna happen I asssure you.
If you are talking about El. El from elohim and EL from Eledumare, then you are on almost on point.
But that Yahweh I swear on Yahweh na small boy grin

You are still running around God without wishing to encounter him. Elohim, elshadai, El elyion etc are all ascribed to God based on his several manifestations of majesty, strength, power etc. This is not of primal concern or importance here.

What I mean is that the necessary thing is that you believe in Jesus Christ the only son of God in other to have salvation. I too was a fool, a very big one indeed before God helped me out and made me good by the power of his spirit.

There is trouble, no human being can be comfortable in hell. People doubt it's existence because they haven't seen or experienced it, and so they take everything as a joke. Does God have time for jokes? No. He has stated in his word how everything will be and so it is.

I pray that you are saved.
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 1:01pm On May 03, 2022
emmanuelonwe:


You are still running around God without wishing to encounter him. Elohim, elshadai, El elyion etc are all ascribed to God based on his several manifestations of majesty, strength, power etc. This is not of primal concern or importance here.

What I mean is that the necessary thing is that you believe in Jesus Christ the only son of God in other to have salvation. I too was a fool, a very big on indeed before God helped me out and made me good by the power of his spirit.

There is trouble, no human being can be comfortable in hell. People doubt it's existence because they haven't seen or experienced it, and so they take everything as a joke. Does God have time for jokes? No. He has stated in his word how everything will be and so it is.

I pray that you are saved.
Elohim and shaddi they are still under EL the grand god.

And where did they say Elohim is the same as Yahweh? Surely not in the Bible.

Jesus Christ? That Greek white boy?
How can a Jew be bearing “Jesus Christ “ grin

From the picture I posted you can see that the most high (Elohim) is the one sharing inheritance among his children which Yahweh is among

Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 1:09pm On May 03, 2022
Maynman:


And where did they say Elohim is the same as Yahweh? Who told you?

Jesus Christ? That Greek white boy?

Let me correct you on saying that Jesus is Greek, no, Jesus Christ is of Jewish origin as you should know. And I sense you doubt his incarnation by the power of the Holy spirit being possibly influenced by the writings of Moses maimonides and other atheist.

You need Jesus. He is calling now. He wants to be of help to you.
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 1:15pm On May 03, 2022
emmanuelonwe:


Let me correct you on saying that Jesus is Greek, no, Jesus Christ is of Jewish origin as you should know. And I sense you doubt his incarnation by the power of the Holy spirit being possibly influenced by the writings of Moses maimonides and other atheist.

You need Jesus. He is calling now. He wants to be of help to you.

There’s nothing like “Jesus Christ” in Hebrew language.
What’s Jesus is Hebrew?
What’s Joshua in Hebrew?
Any difference

You can see the most high sharing portions to Yahweh.
What does God translate to in Hebrew?
Where did Yahweh come from?

Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 3:39pm On May 03, 2022
Maynman:

Elohim and shaddi they are still under EL the grand god.

And where did they say Elohim is the same as Yahweh? Surely not in the Bible.

Jesus Christ? That Greek white boy?
How can a Jew be bearing “Jesus Christ “ grin

From the picture I posted you can see that the most high (Elohim) is the one sharing inheritance among his children which Yahweh is among


YAHWEH IS THE MOST HIGH GOD.

"That they may know that you alone whose name is YAHWEH is the most high over all the earth" - Psalm 83:18.

Acts 17:26 also reads: "he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitations".

You want to me to show you where it is written in the bible that YAHWEH is elohim.

You talked about El sharing lands and boundaries and giving Israel to Yahweh. That's not true. The very El you talk about is Yahweh. He is the one who shares the boundaries. Show me in the bible where it is written that YAHWEH is a subordinate of El.

In the same Deuteronomy you quoted, Israel's holy God states that he is the most high God. If you say that Yahweh is the God of Israel, you at once also say that he is El most high or "elyon"

So, What is El in the first place? El is a generic name for God, it is not specific to any deity. but here we define the qualities of El that we talk about, namely that Yahweh is elohim, elshadai, elyon etc.

Now, concerning Deuteronomy 32:9 that you quoted, Yahweh, the God of Israel states that he is the very God the most high (elyon) and that besides him there is no other.

Deuteronomy 32:39-40, hear him: "see now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal. Neither is there any that can deliver out of my hands. For I lift up my hand and say I live for ever".

Like I said before, there is need to do away with atheism and set aside the childish tools which the devil employs to decieve them and the world.

Let us embrace our Lord Jesus Christ the one who leads us to the father

Neither is there salvation in any other : for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved - Acts 4:12.
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 3:44pm On May 03, 2022
emmanuelonwe:



YAHWEH IS THE MOST HIGH GOD.

"That they may know that you alone whose name is YAHWEH is the most high over all the earth" - Psalm 83:18.

Acts 17:26 also reads: "he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitations".

You want to me to show you where it is written in the bible that YAHWEH is elohim.

You talked about El sharing lands and boundaries and giving Israel to Yahweh. That's not true. The very El you talk about is Yahweh. He is the one who shares the boundaries. Show me in the bible where it is written that YAHWEH is a subordinate of El.

In the same Deuteronomy you quoted, Israel's holy God states that he is the most high God. If you say that Yahweh is the God of Israel, you at once also say that he is El most high or "elyon"

So, What is El in the first place? El is a generic name for God, it is not specific to any deity. but here we define the qualities of El that we talk about, namely that Yahweh is elohim, elshadai, elyon etc.

Now, concerning Deuteronomy 32:9 that you quoted, Yahweh, the God of Israel states that he is the very God the most high (elyon) and that besides him there is no other.

Deuteronomy 32:39-40, hear him: "see now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal. Neither is there any that can deliver out of my hands. For I lift up my hand and say I live for ever".

Like I said before, there is need to do away with atheism and set aside the childish tools which the devil employs to decieve them and the world.

Let us embrace our Lord Jesus Christ the one who leads us to the father

Neither is there salvation in any other : for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved - Acts 4:12.

Bro read Deuteronomy 32:8-9
And check history, it’s even from a Jehovah witness website, what a coincidence.
Deuteronomy 32:39-40. Yahweh hasn’t introduce himself yet, it was during the exodus that Yahweh introduce himself.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5110515182338048/most-high-allocated-yahweh-jacob?page=2

Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 4:01pm On May 03, 2022
Maynman:


Bro read Deuteronomy 32:8-9
And check history, it’s even from a Jehovah witness website, what a coincidence.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5110515182338048/most-high-allocated-yahweh-jacob?page=2


Did I say that there is no sharing of boundaries what? I said that the sharing was done by Yahweh our God.

God chose Israel as a special race not some other God giving them to him. Like I said it is not possible to see where another God gave Israel to Yahweh. Let me ilustrate.

You have three children and you have special love for one for some reason , so you decided to take special care for him, that does not mean that the rest are not your children. They may suffer abandonment.

Remember that this sharing is an alienation of other nations by God on the basis of sin. If you say that some other God did the sharing, when was that. Don't you know that Israel was a young nation comparing to others such as Egypt, When there was no Israel did the other nations not have gods? Of course they did, but the gods they had were devils, like shango, ogun, osun etc.
Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by Maynman: 4:02pm On May 03, 2022
emmanuelonwe:



Did I say that there is no sharing of boundaries what? I said that the sharing was done by Yahweh our God.

God chose Israel as a special race not some other God giving them to him. Like I said it is not possible to see where another God gave Israel to Yahweh. Let me ilustrate.

You have three children and you have special love for one for some reason , so you decided to take special care for him, that does not mean that the rest are not your children. They may suffer abandonment.

Remember that this sharing is an alienation of other nations by God on the basis of sin. If you say that some other God did the sharing, when was that. Don't you know that Israel was a young nation comparing to others such as Egypt, When there was no Israel did the other nations not have gods? Of course they did, but the gods they had were devils, like shango, ogun, osun etc.


God translated to Hebrew means elohim. This Elohim shared isreal potion to Yahweh.. the warrrior.
Elohim has a wife, asheerah.

Re: Biblical Miracles Are Fraud. by emmanuelonwe: 4:22pm On May 03, 2022
Maynman:


God translated to Hebrew means elohim. He shared isreal potion to Yahweh.. the warrrior.
Elohim has a wife, asheerah.

The worship of asherah was clearly forbidden in Deuteronomy 16:21

How can God forbid something and at the same time accept it. Its contrary to knowledge.

People will deceive others with scientific discoveries, if we find ashera temple in Israel, does that mean its acceptable to God?

The people that worshipped asherah were rejected by God. God is holly.

May his name be praised for ever and ever. Amen.

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