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Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by cule7(m): 4:55am On May 10, 2022
The Kiev troops defending Mariupol couldn’t fire a single US-made missile, the captured officer claims

The US-made Javelin anti-tank systems have been praised for their effectiveness by Washington officials and have been turned by Western Media into a symbol of Ukraine’s resistance in the conflict with Russia. But a commander of the Ukrainian marines, who ended up being captured during the fighting for Mariupol, has revealed to RT that the hardware doesn't really live up to the claims

The Javelins didn’t prove useful, especially in urban warfare,” Colonel Vladimir Baranyuk, the commander of Ukraine’s 36th Naval Infantry Brigade, said.

“We couldn't even launch one. I think it's completely useless in an urban environment, as something always gets in the way,” he explained.

Baranyuk's unit was also armed with Next-generation Light Anti-tank Weapons (NLAWs), supplied by Britain, but these also had their flaws, according to the officer.

“As for the NLAW missile launchers, well, we used them more often than the Javelins, but it has its own issue with the battery draining in cold conditions, making it impossible to launch,” he said.

Shoulder-fired Javelin missiles are equipped with infrared guidance and are said to be adopt a “top attack” trajectory to strike the roof of a tank, which is its most vulnerable part. Just like NLAWs, they're a “fire-and-forget” weapon, meaning that the missile guides itself to its target.

More than 5,000 Javelins have been supplied to Kiev by Washington. Republican Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri said last week that it accounted for a third of the US stockpile of those systems. London, for its part, has already armed the Ukrainian military with over 4,000 NLAWs and other anti-tank missiles.

“The Javelin… have proven to be very, very effective in this fight,” US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in April, referring to the conflict in Ukraine.

An image of Christianity’s Virgin Mother Mary with a Javelin has become an internet meme during the conflict, with US President Joe Biden boasting earlier this week of Ukrainian parents calling their newborn kids “Javelin or Javelina” in honor of the American system.

Baranyuk and his marines had been tasked with guarding the northern outskirts of Mariupol, a strategic port city in the southeast of Ukraine, from the advancing Russian forces.

The commander was captured during a failed attempt to flee the city, which he claims he attempted together with several loyal men after realizing that Kiev's promises to send help to his encircled troops were lies.

Mariupol has seen the heaviest fighting during the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and suffered immense destruction. The city is now almost entirely controlled by Russian forces, with the Azovstal steel plant - where Kiev servicemen and nationalist fighters of the notorious Azov Battalion are holed up, now being the last pocket of Ukrainian resistance.

Russia attacked its neighboring state following Ukraine's failure to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements, signed in 2014, and Moscow's eventual recognition of the Donbass republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. The German- and French-brokered Minsk Protocol was designed to give the breakaway regions special status within the Ukrainian state.

The Kremlin has since demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join NATO. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked and has denied claims it was planning to retake the two republics by force.

https://www.rt.com/news/555144-ukraine-javelin-nlaw-mariupol/
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Tonypens48(m): 5:04am On May 10, 2022
Surprising
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Painintheass221: 6:30am On May 10, 2022
Propaganda is evil
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by AllKnowing: 7:07am On May 10, 2022
I pray you succeed where I failed, OP. Nairaland doesn’t want to see another narrative of this invasion. Ukraine is winning. Ukraine has it all figured out.

I create topics and a mod deletes it. I protest, and the mod brings it back but dumps in a hidden pile. Well, not like he and I stand to gain anything personally from the invasion; we are Nigerians.

And Ukraine is winning!

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Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:46am On May 10, 2022
Lol
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Teazer4(m): 8:34am On May 10, 2022
AllKnowing:
I pray you succeed where I failed, OP. Nairaland doesn’t want to see another narrative of this invasion. Ukraine is winning. Ukraine has it all figured out.

I create topics and a mod deletes it. I protest, and the mod brings it back but dumps in a hidden pile. Well, not like he and I stand to gain anything personally from the invasion; we are Nigerians.

And Ukraine is winning!
Ukraine can only win in their dreams.

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Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Alamkir: 8:57am On May 10, 2022
Everything west is overhyped fancy looking pieces of shit....... Especially their weapons.
some bomb made by US, UK Are so beautiful to the point that u will be tempted to use it to design ur living room. But very useless during war

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Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Valkrie: 9:05am On May 10, 2022
Alamkir:
Everything west is overhyped fancy looking pieces of shit....... Especially their weapons.
some bomb made by US, UK Are so beautiful to the point that u will be tempted to use it to design ur living room. But very useless during war

With what then did they destroyed all the Russians tanks in Ukraine, I guess with catapult..?

Just pray your tank doesn't come face to face with a javelin welding solder..that day you would understand the true meaning of war...!!
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Opolopoopolonio: 9:08am On May 10, 2022
I don't expect a Russian website to praise a weapon that caused them huge losses on the battlefield. grin

Only pro-Putin luuunatics can take this serious. grin

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Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Nobody: 9:19am On May 10, 2022
Chai. The Op is not even ashamed to post this propaganda. If you are a tank commander, one thing you should always pray for is "May my enemies never have access to JAVALIN baby" If not, You are toasted.

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Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Igbofam: 9:43am On May 10, 2022
Whenever I read anything from Russian RT lying propaganda website it reminds me of AY show grin

It's just all sorts of comedy and irrationality cheesy

Makes me wonder at the number of brain cells in the heads of these Putin bots to believe their shit grin
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by VOICEofORIENTAL: 10:10am On May 10, 2022
cule7:
The Kiev troops defending Mariupol couldn’t fire a single US-made missile, the captured officer claims

The US-made Javelin anti-tank systems have been praised for their effectiveness by Washington officials and have been turned by Western Media into a symbol of Ukraine’s resistance in the conflict with Russia. But a commander of the Ukrainian marines, who ended up being captured during the fighting for Mariupol, has revealed to RT that the hardware doesn't really live up to the claims

The Javelins didn’t prove useful, especially in urban warfare,” Colonel Vladimir Baranyuk, the commander of Ukraine’s 36th Naval Infantry Brigade, said.

“We couldn't even launch one. I think it's completely useless in an urban environment, as something always gets in the way,” he explained.

Baranyuk's unit was also armed with Next-generation Light Anti-tank Weapons (NLAWs), supplied by Britain, but these also had their flaws, according to the officer.

“As for the NLAW missile launchers, well, we used them more often than the Javelins, but it has its own issue with the battery draining in cold conditions, making it impossible to launch,” he said.

Shoulder-fired Javelin missiles are equipped with infrared guidance and are said to be adopt a “top attack” trajectory to strike the roof of a tank, which is its most vulnerable part. Just like NLAWs, they're a “fire-and-forget” weapon, meaning that the missile guides itself to its target.

More than 5,000 Javelins have been supplied to Kiev by Washington. Republican Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri said last week that it accounted for a third of the US stockpile of those systems. London, for its part, has already armed the Ukrainian military with over 4,000 NLAWs and other anti-tank missiles.

“The Javelin… have proven to be very, very effective in this fight,” US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in April, referring to the conflict in Ukraine.

An image of Christianity’s Virgin Mother Mary with a Javelin has become an internet meme during the conflict, with US President Joe Biden boasting earlier this week of Ukrainian parents calling their newborn kids “Javelin or Javelina” in honor of the American system.

Baranyuk and his marines had been tasked with guarding the northern outskirts of Mariupol, a strategic port city in the southeast of Ukraine, from the advancing Russian forces.

The commander was captured during a failed attempt to flee the city, which he claims he attempted together with several loyal men after realizing that Kiev's promises to send help to his encircled troops were lies.

Mariupol has seen the heaviest fighting during the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and suffered immense destruction. The city is now almost entirely controlled by Russian forces, with the Azovstal steel plant - where Kiev servicemen and nationalist fighters of the notorious Azov Battalion are holed up, now being the last pocket of Ukrainian resistance.

Russia attacked its neighboring state following Ukraine's failure to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements, signed in 2014, and Moscow's eventual recognition of the Donbass republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. The German- and French-brokered Minsk Protocol was designed to give the breakaway regions special status within the Ukrainian state.

The Kremlin has since demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join NATO. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked and has denied claims it was planning to retake the two republics by force.

https://www.rt.com/news/555144-ukraine-javelin-nlaw-mariupol/
The worst propaganda news sites in Russia are: RT, SPUTNIK,RIA novosti,Lentu.ru. etc.. these media sites are heavily sponsored & censored by the government of Russia.

RT, the Russian times can never speak any thing good about the Americans.They are seriously angry that the US,is mobilizing the world against russia.The US javelin is really a torn in the flesh of the Russian soldiers.
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by cule7(m): 11:38am On May 10, 2022
Igbofam:
Whenever I read anything from Russian RT lying propaganda website it reminds me of AY show grin

It's just all sorts of comedy and irrationality cheesy

Makes me wonder at the number of brain cells in the heads of these Putin bots to believe their shit grin

But you certainly believe what CNN, Daily Mail, and others publish?

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Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:47am On May 10, 2022
Up Russia.

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Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Igbofam: 12:31pm On May 10, 2022
cule7:


But you certainly believe what CNN, Daily Mail, and others publish?

Yes because it makes tons more sense. How can anyone in this day and age of modern warfare push out such propaganda that a Javelin missile is useless and not effective grin

With added advantages like longer firing distance and laser targeting which enables the shoot and forget system and which also enables the impact trajectory of the missile to be adjusted automatically prior to impact to ensure maximum damage to any tank and then one werey in Russia who knows that their supporters are brainless enough to believe their trash would push this idiocy that the Javelin missile is useless grin

I am sure you also believe it as you also believe that a WWII era RPG is more effective than a Javelin of this century

No wonder Russian weaponry has been disgraced repeatedly during this war with Ukraine.

Javelins, NLAW and the rest has so dealt with them that they dedicated a whole editorial to try and demarket it grin

Javelins keep giving them PTSD cheesy
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by cule7(m): 12:32pm On May 10, 2022
Igbofam:


Yes because it makes tons more sense. How can anyone in this day and age of modern warfare push out such propaganda that a Javelin missile is useless and not effective grin

With added advantages like laser targeting which enables the shoot and forget system and which also enables the impact trajectory of the missile to be adjusted automatically prior to impact to ensure maximum damage to any tank and then one werey in Russia who knows that their supporters are brainless enough to believe their trash would push this idiocy that the Javelin missile is useless grin

I am sure you also believe it as you also believe that a WWII era RPG is more effective than a Javelin of this century

No wonder Russian weaponry has been disgraced repeatedly during this war with Ukraine.

Javelins, NLAW and the rest has so dealt with them that they dedicated a whole editorial to try and demarket it grin

Javelins keep giving them PTSD cheesy


How do you feel after typing this?
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by Igbofam: 12:36pm On May 10, 2022
cule7:



How do you feel after typing this?

How do you feel after believing that Rubbish PTSD inspired idiocy from the RT media? grin

Javelins with a kill rate of almost 95% is being demarketed by frustrated Russians as useless cheesy

AY show for real grin

Do you know what it means to have a kill rate of almost 95%? That is an almost perfect scorecard.

The laser guidance ensures it destroys virtually EVERY tank it hits.

It helps it hit the tank at it's most vulnerable spot ensuring destruction but you believe RT media... grin
Re: Captured Ukrainian Officer Labels American Javelins ‘useless’ by adebayo987: 12:39pm On May 10, 2022
This man sef... Just that the weapon didn't work at a given time and you were captured, you want to condemn the whole thing! Remove Javelin from Ukraine and you'll see floods of Russian tanks everywhere. He even disqualified himself when he said there's always an obstacle on its path which hinders them from firing and that it's delicate to be used in an urban area (as there must be obstacles).

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