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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 11:49am On May 13, 2022
pocohantas:

K. Continue burning people.
kk.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 11:50am On May 13, 2022
Godx:
The idea of blasphemy being a crime is actually nonsense.
is it tho? Laws and regulations are guidelines based on the sentiment of the people

If an aggregate proportion think that it’s wrong for their imaginary god to be insulted then it’s illegal

while it’s barbaric, it’s the reality of the situation
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:50am On May 13, 2022
Joezinho:
Seu.n alleges to be an atheist but he acts like a Jihadist doing everything to enforce islamization..

Christians must swear an oath before commenting on an Islamic thread but Muslims are free to run amok on other religious thread, especially the Christians own..

I wonder what the fvck is the rationale behind this stupid shiit.. Dude must be a sick wacko...
There’s a reason most of these low budget atheists no dey do their nonsense near Muslims. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 11:51am On May 13, 2022
Now this is what I was saying .

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:51am On May 13, 2022
Joezinho:


Not sugarcoating it. Read your Bible to understand. Abi you be pagan?
I no even know where I dey.

Na to dey talk truth i sabi.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Joezinho: 11:51am On May 13, 2022
donstan18:
Unrelated:

But we Nigerians actually support jungle justice when it suits our agenda.

Burn a rapist and watch Nigerian ladies support it.

Burn a false rape accuser and watch man support it, while ladies will lowkey condemn it.

Burn an aboki in Igbo land who was caught stealing and watch Igbos support it, while Hausas condemned it.

Burn someone for blasphemy in the north and watch the igbos comdemn it while the Hausa support it.

If your relative get caught for robbery even after shooting the victim, you’ll want the police to take care of it and not jungle justice.

But if your relative gets shot by a thief, you’ll so much prefer jungle justice and not police.

We can pretend to be civil online, but the truth remains that WE ALL support jungle justice.

The same UGM/ESN apologists that have been supporting and hailing the killings/maimings of their fellow Igbos in the East are now condemning the religious fanactics in the North that killed Deborah when they are not different at all from them.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:52am On May 13, 2022
popizaino:



This is not up for debate abeg, power pass money in this life.

Like I said, maybe in other countries. I never travel go Obodo Oyibo before.

But you see this country? My brother, choose money.

I say this because I have experienced it many times. Money dey buy power for this country

To each, his own
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:53am On May 13, 2022
Joezinho:


The same UGM/ESN apologists that have been supporting and hailing the killings/maimings of their fellow Igbos in the East are now condemning the religious fanactics in the North that killed Deborah when they are not different at all from them.
grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin

Same thing I was saying, we all support jungle justice depending on the agenda.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Joezinho: 11:53am On May 13, 2022
donstan18:

There’s a reason most of these low budget atheists no dey do their nonsense near Muslims. cheesy

He say na low budget atheists. cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:55am On May 13, 2022
Joezinho:


He say na low budget atheists. cheesy cheesy
Atheist wey no fit go sokoto thick village argue the existence of Allah no be original atheist.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 11:55am On May 13, 2022
Havertz10:
is it tho? Laws and regulations are guidelines based on the sentiment of the people

If an aggregate proportion think that it’s wrong for their imaginary god to be insulted then it’s illegal

while it’s barbaric, it’s the reality of the situation
They are barbaric and should be abolished.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:59am On May 13, 2022
BlueRayDick:
My two cents on the power vs money :

Money and power both have their use ; but if government wants to drown any businessman , it’s quite easy.

Just one government policy can ruin a company /all Investments of business. Don’t get carried away with the thoughts that Businessmen like Dangote are that powerful and more influential than some politicians in power.

Remember how FG closed down the boarder and some businessmen who bring in goods through Benin republic has their perishable items dmsestoyed after the border closure lasted too long. I remember a man calling on Nigeria info radio station he narrated how his goods has been stuck at the port and his creditors have been waiting for him to sell those items and pay back the bank both principal and loan.

As regards Dangote, most people don’t know that a lot of banks are responsible for advancing him facility to him for that purpose. By privilege I saw one document showing a consortium banks listed and the amount of facility they offered our guy who has been using it to build the refinery .

Do u know that Government thru CBN can 4ck Dangote up with those banks ? They have ways of doing these shiiits. Naija is a jungle ; there’s a reason Dangote have both Buhari and Jonathan in the run off to 2015 elections. Baba placed a gamble on both candidates and it was a win win for him


Cc. izzou
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay1: 12:00pm On May 13, 2022
donstan18:

Lol. Leave them nh.

Make Dangote or other billionaires criticize the government publicly if e sure them. cheesy

Tbf, billionaires both home and abroad don't criticize politicians or dabble into political discuss publicly. They do their talking behind the scenes.

The first billionaire that will be doing so in recent years is probably only Elon Musk
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 12:01pm On May 13, 2022
The concept of jungle justice isn’t new and it isn’t an African thing, people have been practicing such systems for decades

Fact remains that it’s very prevalent in poor societies, where people are destitute and frustrated enough to engage in such barbaric practices

It’s wickedness, that’s the truth, we talked about accident and why people just start burning the car owner and the car

They know that it isn’t just but they need to take out their frustrations on someone or something and you that committed a crime in their presence particularly if you are privileged have given them an excuse to satisfy those cravings

Has nothing to do with police, there are 200m Nigerians, police aren’t even up to 1m how can they police the activities of 200m? It’s not even feasible to expect them to be the ones to curb such practices, make like better for your people and they will act more civilized
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:01pm On May 13, 2022
timay1:

Tbf, billionaires both home and abroad don't criticize politicians or dabble into political discuss publicly. They do their talking behind the scenes.

The first billionaire that will be doing so in recent years is probably only Elon Musk
Do you know why?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 12:02pm On May 13, 2022
donstan18:

There’s a reason most of these low budget atheists no dey do their nonsense near Muslims. cheesy
funny enough, you are an apt example of a low budget atheist, you think that the Bible is bullshit and still believe in god

Muslims aren’t invasive and they aren’t hypocritical, they are like wild animals, respect their habitat and they will let you be, but Christians are contradictory and hypocrites that’s why they are mostly criticized

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Joezinho: 12:03pm On May 13, 2022
donstan18:

grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin

Same thing I was saying, we all support jungle justice depending on the agenda.

In naija, people are not aware that the law only permits them to arrest people that break the law, but do not have the right to prosecute.. Nobody send at all. The general populace holds a narrow belief that justice can be bought. And it's true.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 12:05pm On May 13, 2022
BlueRayDick:
Now this is what I was saying .

This has to be the most foolish thing Reno has ever said..

How did we really get to this point where everyone has now defaulted to whataboutism

How are we missing the main point??
This was one of the most senseless killing I've ever seen in my life. It's not as if the girl actually insulted the prophet. Since when does one simple sentence qualify one to be burnt to crisps??

Why are we now bringing in ipob, UGM or even jungle justice for theft into this??
These have no bearing right now because I'm sure that if anyone posted a video of jungle justice for theft on this page, it will be unanimously condemned by all, no one believes citizens should have the right to kill another person, everyone here will say it's best left to the law to handle and will wish for a much better judicial system than we have now.

But just look at the reaction of the moslems to the killing, they are actually largely in support of it, to the extent that a presidential candidate has to actually withdraw his condemnation of the barbarism.

So please tell me why we're deviating from this issue to engage in senseless whataboutism?

The issue here is that we have fellow citizens who believe that it's okay to kill someone because she told off her fellow students from using the WhatsApp group as a religious ground. shocked shocked shocked

Please lets stop falling for these diversions. When we see jungle justice for theft happening, we'll focus on that one and condemn it too but that's not what were talking about right now.
Whataboutism serves to deflect from the conversation on ground.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:05pm On May 13, 2022
timay1:


Tbf, billionaires both home and abroad don't criticize politicians or dabble into political discuss publicly. They do their talking behind the scenes.

Leave that nigga. He expects someone like Dangote that has direct contact to the President and various Governors to go Public when he has a problem. He doesn't know anything.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 12:06pm On May 13, 2022
Godx:

They are barbaric and should be abolished.
how can you abolish the sacred opinion of a significant majority, a presidential candidate deleted his tweet condemning it

Even the president or his team haven’t made a statement
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 12:07pm On May 13, 2022
popizaino:


Why?
kindly long, will post later and tag you
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 12:08pm On May 13, 2022
Havertz10:
how can you abolish the sacred opinion of a significant majority, a presidential candidate deleted his tweet condemning it

Even the president or his team haven’t made a statement
Same way other barbaric laws in history were abolished .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay1: 12:08pm On May 13, 2022
donstan18:

Do you know why?

Yes.

Those billionaires mostly buy out both sides of the political divide. Whichever side wins, they end up doing their bidding, with the billionaire making little compromises depending on which side of the political divide won.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:09pm On May 13, 2022
Havertz10:
funny enough, you are an apt example of a low budget atheist, you think that the Bible is bullshit and still believe in god

Muslims aren’t invasive and they aren’t hypocritical, they are like wild animals, respect their habitat and they will let you be, but Christians are contradictory and hypocrites that’s why they are the mostly criticized
The guilty are afraid. smiley


I’ll say it again, low budget atheists no dey do their nonesense near Muslims.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 12:12pm On May 13, 2022
GloriousGbola:


The problem is that all adherents cherry pick as required. There is a whole old testament which people refence when it is time for polygamy, violence, misogyny etc.

And for the new testament, the phrase I come not to bring peace but a sword was used to mobilise during the crusades.

As I pointed out earlier, I know that both religious books approved of violence but the fact is that most christians try to emulate Christ and moslems try to emulate Mohammed. Hence it's significant to point out the differences in moral standards of both.

Christians are less violent partly because Jesus Christ was never violent.

Moslems are more violent because their prophet espoused violence. He killed a lot of people during his lifetime in religious conquests.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 12:13pm On May 13, 2022
Joezinho:
Seu.n alleges to be an atheist but he acts like a Jihadist doing everything to enforce islamization..

Christians must swear an oath before commenting on an Islamic thread but Muslims are free to run amok on other religious thread, especially the Christians own..

I wonder what the fvck is the rationale behind this stupid shiit.. Dude must be a sick wacko...
nah he is smart, if he allowed Christians with their invasive tendencies to freely enter that space

Nairaland will be uninhabitable for Muslims, there will be religious wars of words and most Muslims will exit this platform, there are at least 20 Christians for each Muslim and i’m only guessing i’m sure that it’s much more than that self

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:13pm On May 13, 2022
Joezinho:


In naija, people are not aware that the law only permits them to arrest people that break the law, but do not have the right to prosecute.. Nobody send at all. The general populace holds a narrow belief that justice can be bought. And it's true.
Which is the truth.

Incidents as such is very difficult to hold an opinion without sentiment.

Jungle justice is most times, the only way the poor get their justice.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:16pm On May 13, 2022
timay1:


Yes.

Those billionaires mostly buy out both sides of the political divide. Whichever side wins, they end up doing their bidding, with the billionaire making little compromises depending on which side of the political divide won.
But can’t you see we’re saying the same thing?

They need these politicians on their side, which is the point i’m trying to make. More reason they can’t publicly criticize them.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 12:16pm On May 13, 2022
donjazet:


This has to be the most foolish thing Reno has ever said..

How did we really get to this point where everyone has now defaulted to whataboutism

How are we missing the main point??
This was one of the most senseless killing I've ever seen in my life. It's not as if the girl actually insulted the prophet. Since when does one simple sentence qualify one to be burnt to crisps??

Why are we now bringing in ipob, UGM or even jungle justice for theft into this??
These have no bearing right now because I'm sure that if anyone posted a video of jungle justice for theft on this page, it will be unanimously condemned by all, no one believes citizens should have the right to kill another person, everyone here will say it's best left to the law to handle and will wish for a much better judicial system than we have now.

But just look at the reaction of the moslems to the killing, they are actually largely in support of it, to the extent that a presidential candidate has to actually withdraw his condemnation of the barbarism.

So please tell me why we're deviating from this issue to engage in senseless whataboutism?

The issue here is that we have fellow citizens who believe that it's okay to kill someone because she told off her fellow students from using the WhatsApp group as a religious ground. shocked shocked shocked

Please lets stop falling for these diversions. When we see jungle justice for theft happening, we'll focus on that one and condemn it too but that's not what were talking about right now.
Whataboutism serves to deflect from the conversation on ground.

U can’t be in ur house and decide what is blasphemy or not. It is the law court that can do that after listening to the argument of lawyers of all the parties in the case. I do not understand Hausa to have known exactly what the girl said or not; neither do I know the young ladies’ beef with those other guys before the unfortunate incident.

Like I said earlier , they should’ve handed her to law enforcement agents if they feel she has committed the crime of blasphemy.

But one thing is sure, the jungle justice they carried out by taking laws into their hands is what people have been doing down south setting ablaze suspected kidnappers, ritualists etc without having a recourse to the law enforcement agents.

We need to agree jungle justice as a nation as a whole , not telling northerners to refrain from such dastardly act and neglecting the ones being down by our brothers here

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 12:17pm On May 13, 2022
popizaino:

Cc.

Poppy, I no dey live on assumptions and imaginations. I stick with reality

Money will buy power again and again in this country

For 15k a week (I think), I can have an armed policeman as an escort. So with 75k, I have 5 armed policemen following me about.

I just need to budget 300k a month, and these men will open and close doors for me, even violate traffic laws. And you are saying I should chase power?

Didn't you see how Abba Kyari was addressing Hushpuppy?

Just go out and see what Money commands. Forget all these assumptions of criticizing government and all that.

Go to ministries, government parastatals and see what privileges people with money have.

I would choose Money 1000 billion times over power in this country.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 12:17pm On May 13, 2022
Amoto94, I saw your earlier response to my posts and I acknowledge your response but you didn't actually answer the question I asked. You can understand my curiosity on your stance seeing as many of your fellow moslems are actually in full support of these killings.
Please can you answer these?

donjazet:
Amoto94, please I need your attention here. Can you please confirm if this part of Hadith is indeed true?
Did the prophet Mohammed approve of a son killing his own own mother because of blasphemy of his name??

Do you think present day Moslems take inspiration from hadiths like these?? Please I come in peace, I bear no ill will.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by GloriousGbola: 12:18pm On May 13, 2022
donjazet:


As I pointed out earlier, I know that both religious books approved of violence but the fact is that most christians try to emulate Christ and moslems try to emulate Mohammed. Hence it's significant to point out the differences in moral standards of both.

Christians are less violent partly because Jesus Christ was never violent.

Moslems are more violent because their prophet espoused violence. He killed a lot of people during his lifetime in religious conquests.


400+ years of history says otherwise

Spanish inquisition off the top of my tongue.
Salem witch trials
Precursors for colonization


And I laugh when I hear Christians try to emulate Jesus, who died a bachelor. How many Christian makes are celibate and hanging out with 12 dudes wink

I think we know how all that priest celibacy has been going.

Christianity has grown out of violence or maybe it is tempered by secularism.

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