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Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by haffaze777(m): 1:22pm On May 13, 2022 |
Atiku shouldn't have deleted the post,I don't support his ambition to rule Nigeria but I support his condemnation of such barbaric acts,and I know alot of Nigeria did same,by deleting that post he disappoint me and many nigeria.as for those stupid fanatics their end is near. |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by lagonovo: 1:30pm On May 13, 2022 |
Online people and hypocrisy. Your eyes gradually clearing up on reality. Atiku just faced our sad reality. Oya, let your Osinbajo talk now, let your imaginary difference maker Peter Obi talk, let your Tinubu talk, your Amaechi. Buhari, Jonathan, Obasanjo, Babangida? Life is easy when you are a nonexistent online character who can pretend to be anything with answers to every problem in Nigeria but actually a nonentity in real life. Not that easy when you are known. 3 Likes |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Emekaossai(m): 1:33pm On May 13, 2022 |
Lord Lugard will never rest in peace for joining us today |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by RussellRutherfo: 1:39pm On May 13, 2022 |
Braga90: Nonsense I guess I reference to your pedophile prophet Muhammad |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Mccullum: 1:40pm On May 13, 2022 |
FirstSon01: Internet can't forget your wishes, just know that. May God help Nigeria o |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by lagonovo: 1:41pm On May 13, 2022 |
We had a choice especially in 1957. We were just the North and the South then later the North, the East and the the West. The East led by Azikiwe opted to align with the North against the wish of the West, thinking the North was easy to control. While we blame Lugard, we can't run away from this fact on the choice we made even if we are the worst hypocrites on earth. Emekaossai: 2 Likes |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by RussellRutherfo: 1:44pm On May 13, 2022 |
rajiedreez: Let's see Quran 9:1-6: Notice that this is the final portion of the revelation Mohammed claimed to receive from his angel, Gabreel. It does not include the statement, “In the name of Allah, the merciful, the merciful.” It begins with the word “innocent” in the Arabic language. Allah and his messenger, Mohammed, are innocent concerning the killing of the idolaters, the Christians, and the Jews, especially with those whom Mohammed had made a previous covenant not to kill. 1 Allah and his messenger are innocent from the polytheists with whom you have a covenant. 2 So travel in the land four months, and know that you will not hinder Allah and that Allah will shame the infidels. 3 And the announcement from Allah and his messenger to the people on the bigger pilgrimage day: "That Allah and his messenger are innocent from the polytheists." So if you repent, so it will be better for you; but if you turn away, so know that you will not hinder Allah. And give the good news to those who became infidels, with a painful torment. 4 Except for the polytheists with whom you made a covenant, then they did not fail anything of you, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfill to them your covenant through their time. Surely Allah loves the fearer. Muslims are commanded to kill all polytheists who do not accept Islam. According to Muslim scholars, this verse abrogates 124 other verses throughout the entire Qur'an which indicate any compassion for Christians and Jews. Also, notice verse 6 is abrogated by verse 5. 5 So when the forbidden months are passed, [1] so kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them [as captives] and besiege them and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush; so if they repent [2] and perform the prayer and bring the legal alms, so leave their way free. Surely Allah is forgiving, merciful. 6 And if any one of the polytheists asks you for a shelter, so give to him a shelter until he hears the word of Allah, then let him reach his place of safety. This is because they are people who do not know. |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by AFONJAPIG(m): 1:56pm On May 13, 2022 |
FirstSon01:when u become the president, make me minister of health, I knw of a genetic virus that will only attack people of the North alone |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Nigra(f): 2:04pm On May 13, 2022 |
Atiku is a weakling...If Islam preaches about violence,they would be no peace whatsoever on earth...All those extremists are illiterates of what Allah preaches .. #Religion isn't violence # 1 Like |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by NaijaCars4sale: 2:22pm On May 13, 2022 |
What where you expecting in the first place. 1 Like |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Gwan2(m): 2:29pm On May 13, 2022 |
IME1: This is emotional, kudos…but unfortunately, emotions or evangelism won’t quell or stop this barbaric act, until it is met with equal or higher brutal force. The state of Isreal, and the Jewish population will have long been an extinct population that we read in our history books if they resorted to this kind of emotional writings or gospel evangelism. Ideology especially from fanatics is ingrained and part of their DNA code…for peace to reign, they have to be aware that you are a superior threat and very fierce with your reprisals. 2 Likes |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by rajiedreez: 3:06pm On May 13, 2022 |
RussellRutherfo: I thought you said you've read tafsir? If so, you'd have known the story behind this revelations and what the instructions meant. There were treaties signed by Muslims and people of other faiths during that period of time when fighting wars with each other. It's like a seize fire treaty that will enable all parties move freely amongst themselves and Allah is instructing Muslims to respected the condition of the treaty for the period its signed for. And even after the period anyone amongst the enemy that seeks refuge with the Muslims should be protected and not touched or armed i.e. Quran 9:6 it even states that the person does not need to be a Muslim before being protected provided he or she isn't involved in the ongoing war. You see, some revelation come to address a current and pressing issue and serves a purpose in a similar scenario afterwards. They aren't applicable in other instances apart from a similar instance to which it was revealed |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by RussellRutherfo: 3:09pm On May 13, 2022 |
rajiedreez: See Tafsir excuse. Is Tafsir which are commentaries by Islamic Scholars greater than Quran? Treaty ko! Treaty ni! Pathetic liars. |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by rajiedreez: 3:17pm On May 13, 2022 |
RussellRutherfo: You see, that's where you're getting it wrong. If a ordinary man reads the Bible and interprets it literally you'll say he needs the spirit to know the true meaning of the Bible. Tafsir aren't mere commentaries, they are explanations to the circumstances surrounding the revelation of the Quran. It's not a must you accept as I'll understand if you do not accept. But I'll never result to insulting you to explain my religion to you. |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by RussellRutherfo: 3:19pm On May 13, 2022 |
rajiedreez: Your Quran insults everyone of us that is not Muslims. We are called the "worst of creatures" by Allah |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Jazzman01: 3:21pm On May 13, 2022 |
FirstSon01: Unfortunately there is nothing anyone can do about it. Religion is a very powerful tool. The only way we can curb their excesses or at least limit it to their region is to break up Nigeria on Religious grounds. Those agitating for Nigeria to split on ethnic grounds have forgotten that Religion is another factor and even more powerful than ethnicity. 1 Like |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by rajiedreez: 3:35pm On May 13, 2022 |
RussellRutherfo: If I had quoted 2 kings 10:17 kill everyone as God promised Esther 3:6 killing all jews It'd seem as though I'm looking for loopholes So many Bible verses are controversial but there'll be one explanation or the other for it abi |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by rajiedreez: 3:38pm On May 13, 2022 |
RussellRutherfo: In case you don't know the Quran refers to Christians and Jews as people of the books. Meaning group of people with God's revealed scriptures |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by pelumi25: 3:38pm On May 13, 2022 |
May God have mercy on our nation Nigeria. |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by RussellRutherfo: 3:40pm On May 13, 2022 |
rajiedreez: I guess Allah is stupid. He wrote the Old Testament with his hands. Muhammad was a pretending mad man who was trying to deceive everyone. Hadith حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، قَالَ حَفِظْنَاهُ مِنْ عَمْرٍو عَنْ طَاوُسٍ، سَمِعْتُ أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " احْتَجَّ آدَمُ وَمُوسَى، فَقَالَ لَهُ مُوسَى يَا آدَمُ أَنْتَ أَبُونَا خَيَّبْتَنَا وَأَخْرَجْتَنَا مِنَ الْجَنَّةِ. قَالَ لَهُ آدَمُ يَا مُوسَى اصْطَفَاكَ اللَّهُ بِكَلاَمِهِ، وَخَطَّ لَكَ بِيَدِهِ، أَتَلُومُنِي عَلَى أَمْرٍ قَدَّرَ اللَّهُ عَلَىَّ قَبْلَ أَنْ يَخْلُقَنِي بِأَرْبَعِينَ سَنَةً. فَحَجَّ آدَمُ مُوسَى، فَحَجَّ آدَمُ مُوسَى " ثَلاَثًا. قَالَ سُفْيَانُ حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو الزِّنَادِ، عَنِ الأَعْرَجِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم مِثْلَهُ. Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses argued with each other. Moses said to Adam. 'O Adam! You are our father who disappointed us and turned us out of Paradise.' Then Adam said to him, 'O Moses[b]! Allah favored you with His talk (talked to you directly) and He wrote (the Torah) for you with His Own Hand[/b]. Do you blame me for action which Allah had written in my fate forty years before my creation?' So Adam confuted Moses, Adam confuted Moses," the Prophet (ﷺ) added, repeating the Statement three times. Sahih Sahih al-Bukhari, 6614 In-Book Reference: Book 82, Hadith 20 USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 8, Book 77, Hadith 611 (deprecated numbering scheme) |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by rajiedreez: 3:51pm On May 13, 2022 |
RussellRutherfo: Smile I'll try my best to explain things to you the best I know. Raining insults even at subordinate isn't part of me so I'll not insult you or your God. It's know by all Muslims any issue that the Quran clarify doesn't need any hadith to explain. Hadith are integral part of Islam but the ruling of the Quran ranks higher than any other Hadith. That's why I've always quoted the Quran to you. It's not right for a Muslim to demean a Jew or a Christian |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by IME1: 4:25pm On May 13, 2022 |
Gwan2: I kid you not Gwan I've always wondered what would happen or what the Holy Spirit would want me or you or others to do IF we ever face attack or threat. Jesus put back the ear of Marcus who Peter had removed with a sword. Jesus is the Prince of Peace. I believe our weapons are not canal but mighty through God. I've heard people fight evil with just speaking and declaring the Word of God and I long to be that kind of person. I believe we must exercise our faith in Jesus in all circumstances. May the Holy Spirit lead us a d God protect us from evil and evil situations in Jesus name, amen 1 Like |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Dagrace01(m): 4:48pm On May 13, 2022 |
Some people are still defending the actions of those that maimed and killed that poor girl.. Who bewitched Africa? Sokoto or no Sokoto, religion or no religion, what was don to that girl is outrightly inhumane. It gives me shivers that we coexist with those that think a god will authorize the death of someone for blasphemy. Any god that can't fight his own course is redundant and incapacitated. Thank GOD we still have reasonable people from Islam. If not, I would've have been so weary and scared of my next neighbor who shares the same ideology. Religion was shoved down our throat by foreign exploiters. It shouldn't take us down this route we're threading. Funniest thing is that this will go on and on and nothing would be done about it.. Unapologetically, I'm saying it with my full chest. Let's divide this country in the way of religion and doctrines. If you prefer sharia law go up north and live ur life there. If you favor the Nigerian constitution, come down south and enjoy ur life. There's no need tagging this country a secular state when a particular region or ideology thinks their belief supersedes the fundamental human rights. O bad gan now! #Thagrace #justicefordeborahsamuel 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Perfectbeing(m): 4:48pm On May 13, 2022 |
This is big proof that our votes count. If vote doesn't count, Atiku would never have deleted that post. He would have banked on the fact that the election will be rigged in the North and he wouldn't have deleted this post. He needs the vote of the Northerners so he had to save face and delete his post. So my people, go and get your voters card and come out of election day to vote. Your votes count |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by donbenie(m): 4:49pm On May 13, 2022 |
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Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by donbenie(m): 4:51pm On May 13, 2022 |
thebosstrevor1:Stupid is as stupid does.. |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by AbdulHakeem44(m): 4:51pm On May 13, 2022 |
Tissaia:Type more if it as long as it makes you happy. Happiness is free!!!!!!!!! |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by viktagorion: 5:22pm On May 13, 2022 |
You will never be President. Eleribu. |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Anndrew(m): 6:23pm On May 13, 2022 |
Amunaotutheory:condemn and kiss ur presidential ambition good bye...violent taketh it by force...Nigeria is a banana Republic |
Re: Atiku Disowns Post About Deborah Samuel by Anndrew(m): 6:34pm On May 13, 2022 |
Eriokanmi:Obj book..my "WATCH".. |
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