philip0906:

Firstly, Afghanistan is an independent country with their own laws. We do NOT share the same identity with them. In Nigeria, the North is a subset of the whole i.e Nigeria. And we share the same identity as NIGERIANS where everyone is/should be subject to the laws at the centre. Nigeria is a secular state and NOT an islamic state. So those are 2 different things.

If I should have to be mindful of how I live in the North because they're a law to themselves, why should I then be claiming Nigerian? Isn't it best we go our separate ways since clearly, we are very different? They would destroy brewery businesses owned by Nigerians in the North while they collect tax from brewery businesses in the South but we're "one Nigeria"?

this is another whole lot of argument all together

seankafor:
leave sentiments alone

SHe was surrounded by Muslims, it's not what is right and what is wrong
It's about applying knowledge and wisdom.

I wouldn't dare that if it was me, unless I didn't like my life.

Baba please tell me exactly how she was disrespectful and and inciting violence? All you are doing is acknowledging that you are a coward who is scared of standing up for himself when things gets hot.

afrodoc2:




Thank you. But it was a question not a joke. A question you didn’t answer by the way. If people don’t bridle their tongues is it right for them to be killed?

And should the same punishment be imposed on muslims when they don’t bridle their tongues about other religions?

The focus here indeed is religious intolerance like you have alluded to, not on the part of the poor girl that was burnt but her school mates that murdered her.

That should be your focus not unbridled tongues. And you should be intelligent enough to know this. Anything short of this and you are nothing but a terrorist apologist in sheep’s clothing.

There's a judicial procedure to determine what measure of punishment is appropriate should the person be tried and found guilty, let the court handle it.
Muslims arent allowed to insult the deities of other faiths but we are rather encouraged to debate with knowledge and wisdom or shun debate entirely when it's not possible to have a civic debate. A Muslim is not even allowed to live in a place hostile to his beliefs except if he's weak and unable to migrate then he should bare whatever comes his way with patience till his condition becomes better.
We should learn to separate the general from the specific my position and that of Muslims is, blasphemy is wrong and punishable but as for what happened in the case of Deborah we condemned it totally and the perpetrators dont represent Islam and appropriate punishment will be dished out to them by the authorities. Also, I am not qualified to say whether the murdered girl committed blasphemy or not and those who lynched her aren't qualified as well they did so out of overzealousness.
Tolerance goes both ways and in Nigeria we are very intolerant some do it in an obvious manner and some do it subtly. Even on this thread people have uploaded family pictures of another user, insulted wives and children of members and labeled someone as abortion doctor; it got so bad that a user had to bring his wads of cash and threats before the other user fled away. We should learn how not to insult people's sensibilities and engage more in more productive discussion.

50d33q:
This is someone I called terrorists apologist and he claimed I defame his character
He openly supported release of remorseful terrorists to the society I honestly don't expect much from him.
I knew he wasn't against the killing but the manner the killing went that's why he kept calling them irate mobs because he believed they took the law in their hands instead of taking her to Sharia court.
I also heard Sharia court is wait and get, judgement must be passed same day.
North is the problem here, it harbour educated terrorists like this guy here and they are the one controlling the non educated ones(almajiris) which are the majority

I must say, you really seem to be the only bright hope we have here.
You too are a moslem but you've been explicit in your condemnation of this killing and the motive behind this. You have voiced out how it's unreasonable to kill for Mohammed.

I want to know, how is your stance soo different from the rest of the vast majority of other moslems in the country. And do you think other moslems will view you as a good moslem or a fake moslem? I don't know if you understand my question?

seankafor:
this is another whole lot of argument all together

Lol...it can't be. That girl didn't insult their prophet or allah. She was killed by blood thirsty islamists who kill for the slightest of reasons. How much careful can one be when around them?

Look at all the religious crisis in the North, many christians have been killed for NOTHING. A cartoonist in Denmark draws their prophet, they kill over 100 christians in the North who have no idea, no knowledge or links with the Dannish cartoonist.

How much careful can one be? Their religion is a blood thirsty one and they will kill you for NOTHING.

Amoto94:
There's a judicial procedure to determine what measure of punishment is appropriate should the person be tried and found guilty, let the court handle it.
Muslims arent allowed to insult the deities of other faiths but we are rather encouraged to debate with knowledge and wisdom or shun debate entirely when it's not possible to have a civic debate. A Muslim is not even allowed to live in a place hostile to his beliefs except if he's weak and unable to migrate then he should bare whatever comes his way with patience till his condition becomes better.
We should learn to separate the general from the specific my position and that of Muslims is, blasphemy is wrong and punishable but as for what happened in the case of Deborah we

Why should a Mortal determine what is disrespectful to a God? Why should a Mortal give out punishment on behalf of a God? Why not let God deal with the blasphemer himself ?

Unlimited22:
Happy birthday to me

Happy birthday bossman. Age gracefully.

Maybe Charles (your crush, my girl; levels ) and the ladies can give you something to celebrate tonight.

donjazet:


Like damn!!! I will not lie to to you, that post infuriated the hell out of me because I expected much better from Jude. He's usually one that seems intelligible on a host of issues, so for him to choose this particular moment to blame the victim speaks of someone with a very black heart and devoid of empathy not to talk of fear of the future of this country.

Like let's review what has just unfolded before our eyes.
A girl rebukes her classmates from using the class group wrongly and makes a very irrelevant remark about the prophet. This innocent innocuous rebuke triggers an unwarranted fury that inexplicably leads to people killing her and jubilating over killing her.

The follow up to this is even worse than what has just occurred. The fact that prominent northern leadership cannot come out and boldly condemn the action and that a while presidential candidate withdraws his condemnation shows just how perverse the entire mentality of the average citizen there is and then Jude who is suppose to see just how terrifying this is , decides this is the best time to conflate this with whatever agenda he has against christians. What kind of sheer stupidity is that??

The big question is, what was even the cause of the rebuke? That's the issue most Nigerians are even oblivious to.
Imagine you threatening me to revoke my statement and God in a general WhatsApp group yet you publish yours.
Then when you're rebuked, you turn around and say I'm blaspheming. Isn't that madness??

Jodera:
The big question is, what was even the cause of the rebuke? That's the issue most Nigerians are even oblivious to.
Imagine you threatening to revoke my statement and God in a general WhatsApp group yet you publish yours.
Then when you're rebuked, you turn around and say I'm blaspheming. Isn't that madness??

Now this is the question begging for answers, and the answer is our disregard for rules and regulations in this part of the world. This is why I always call for moderation in religious evangelism, without government intervention people will do as they wish at the detriment of the said faith they profess. In some countries you don't disturb the public with your practice but in Nigeria we will block roads, turn on the volume of loudspeakers even in the dead of the night disturbing public peace.

Godx:

Baba please tell me exactly how she was disrespectful and and inciting violence? All you are doing is acknowledging that you are a coward who is scared of standing up for himself when things gets hot.

cowards they say die many times before their death..
While hitmen like you who thinks they re immortal gets slaughtered like goats

Jodera:
The big question is, what was even the cause of the rebuke? That's the issue most Nigerians are even oblivious to.
Imagine you threatening me to revoke my statement and God in a general WhatsApp group yet you publish yours.
Then when you're rebuked, you turn around and say I'm blaspheming. Isn't that madness??

Like?? It's not as if this girl actually went all activist or anything on them about religion? She just cautioned them to stop diverting the class group from it's aim.

I mean, look around all the christian pages on nairaland, you see people like me calling christians all kinds of name like sheeple and deluded folks and what not and no matter how offended or aggravated they are, the highest they would do is tell you that they will pray for you to eventually "see the light" and that God will be the one to forgive you.

I Know how many christian folks we've condescended here and how non violent they always are. For him to try to conflate the utter radicalization of moslems with the christians here is very ridiculous. It's foolishness in it's extreme.

seankafor:
cowards they say die many times before their death..

Fear is what kills a man, as long as a man is dictated into submission by Fear, that man is a coward. Seankafor you are a big coward.

Amoto94:

Now this is the question begging for answers, and the answer is our disregard for rules and regulations in this part of the world. This is why I always call for moderation in religious evangelism, without government intervention people will do as they wish at the detriment of the said faith they profess. In some countries you don't disturb the public with your practice but in Nigeria we will block roads, turn on the volume of loudspeakers even in the dead of the night disturbing public peace.

Lol,
It seems you didn't read the screenshots I posted a page ago.

Who disregarded the rules and regulations? The girl or her Muslims coursemates?

I want to hear your honest opinion on this please

Godx:

Fear is what kills a man, as long as a man is dictated into submission by Fear, that man is a coward. Seankafor you are a big coward.

knowing when to quit a fight you re disadvantaged is wisdom.

You see you re outnumbered, disadvantaged, minority.. yet you go ahead to dig your grave In the name of bravely is foolish
He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day
You re foolish for calling me a coward

Jodera:
Lol,
It seems you didn't read the screenshot I posted a page ago.

Who disregarded the rules and regulations? The girl or her Muslims couesemates?

I want to hear your honest opinion on this please

Of course the Muslims and maybe before then people of other faith(s) might have been doing likewise, it's very common for Nigerians to violate rules and regulations.

Godx:

Fear is what kills a man, as long as a man is dictated into submission by Fear, that man is a coward. Seankafor you are a big coward.

Una Don start again...

Bros lockup.

You no fit go North go misyarn about their religion.

Leave all those coward talks.

donstan18:

Una Don start again...

Bros lockup.

You no fit go North go misyarn about their religion.

Leave all those coward talks.

he thinks he is a God.. a foolish one for that matter, that doesn't know when to be brave and when to use his head

“Fear is what kills a man”

Jodera:
The big question is, what was even the cause of the rebuke? That's the issue most Nigerians are even oblivious to.
Imagine you threatening me to revoke my statement and God in a general WhatsApp group yet you publish yours.
Then when you're rebuked, you turn around and say I'm blaspheming. Isn't that madness??

Some people are hypocritical Sha, they only know how to talk from 2 sides of their mouth...In my Uni days, I had a close friend who was a Moslem who always used Jesus an an exclamation, we just stroke him for not calling Mohammed instead and move on but if I were to do the same thing in the North some silly ruffians would attack me for so called blasphemy...This is not even being a terrorist apologist, you're a hardcore terrorist, it's no wonder that the Boko Haram insurgency is still going strong if this is the mindset of the average Moslem Northerner...I said what i said

Amoto94:
Of course the Muslims and maybe before then people of other faith(s) might have been doing likewise, it's very common for Nigerians to violate rules and regulations.

Lol, see how you sneaked in the bolded

So you think she would specifically say her Muslim colleagues are turning the WhatsApp group into religious group and posting only Islamic posts if other faiths are doing likewise? You think she'll highly rebuke them in that manner if they're not the only one doing that?

Na wa oo Amoto..
Fear God na!!

Amoto94:

We have argued about this marriage issue over and over and my stance on this is known to you, why bring it up this time around? There was this companion whose age difference between him and his son is mere 13years here you have your answer.

I'm sorry I have forgotten and I still don't understand your answer and position on this.
Is it blasphemy or not, please clarify.

seankafor:
he thinks he is a God.. a foolish one for that matter, that doesn't know when to be brave and when to use his head

There’s no time to be brave in the midst of extremists and fanatics.

afrodoc2:




Thank you. But it was a question not a joke. A question you didn’t answer by the way. If people don’t bridle their tongues is it right for them to be killed?

And should the same punishment be imposed on muslims when they don’t bridle their tongues about other religions?

The focus here indeed is religious intolerance like you have alluded to, not on the part of the poor girl that was burnt but her school mates that murdered her.

That should be your focus not unbridled tongues. And you should be intelligent enough to know this. Anything short of this and you are nothing but a terrorist apologist in sheep’s clothing.

That guy is a disgrace to Muslims
How did someone with such mindset find his way here

donjazet:


Like?? It's not as if this girl actually went all activist or anything on them about religion? She just cautioned them to stop diverting the class group from it's aim.

I mean, look around all the christian pages on nairaland, you see people like me calling christians all kinds of name like sheeple and deluded folks and what not and no matter how offended or aggravated they are, the highest they would do is tell you that they will pray for you to eventually "see the light" and that God will be the one to forgive you.

I Know how many christian folks we've condescended here and how non violent they always are. For him to try to conflate the utter radicalization of moslems with the christians here is very ridiculous. It's foolishness in it's extreme.

That isn't even the big issue sef

The big issue is threatening someone for saying her God helped her in passing her exam. Is that not madness?

To be honest eh, I'm still looking for any blasphemous talk from her that made the girl to even deserve a slap how much more her death.

seankafor:
[s] knowing when to quit a fight you re disadvantaged is wisdom.

You see you re outnumbered, disadvantaged, minority.. yet you go ahead to dig your grave In the name of bravely is foolish
He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day
You re foolish for calling me a coward [/s]

Stop making excuses for your cowardice.

donstan18:

[s] Una Don start again...

Bros lockup.

You no fit go North go misyarn about their religion.

Leave all those coward talks [/s] .

Please shut up. Deborah refused to beg and apologize when she knew she did nothing wrong. She was not a coward like you and seankafor.

Godx:
[s]
Please shut up. Deborah refused to beg and apologize when she knew she did nothing. She was not a coward like you and seankafor. [/s]

Online aspire to Magwaya.

Claim all you want, fact remains you can’t misyarn about Islam when you’re in their midst.

Joezinho:
Sack tuchel!!!

Tuchel out!!!

Who wan replace am?

"..This one good, this one good na em mad man take dey gather plenty load.."

Mauricio Pochettino

donstan18:

[s] Online aspire to Magwaya.

Claim all you want, fact remains you can’t misyarn about Islam when you’re in their midst. [/s]

The people who have done it must be from Jupiter. Cowards always thinks everyone is like them.

Ibime:


He did well from halftime on. He's a tournament player, only good for sitting back, not robust enough to provide consistency for a team on the front-foot looking to win every game. The criticism still stands. Thiago outpassed him 2 to 1 and Hendo outpassed him handsomely.

Ibime, it will not kill you to open your mouth and give this man his dues. He's much better than any DM out there. Swallow this your agenda and give the man his dues.