NinjaXmetahuman:
This is Moses stuff though.

Most Christians don't do Moses or it's laws anymore. That's why they don't kill to atone for sins.

I think that's why they were able to evolve better than the moon worshipping barbarians.

I know this history very well, it was the Age of Enlightenment then led to the world we see today and religion played no part


How can a religion that spent centuries teaching its followers that up was heaven, conceptualize space

Ellexy:
For CHRISTIANS the Bible is the Highest authority has the final say in all matters. The same Bible says any Spirit that denies the Diety of Jesus is not of the God. On this hill I stand.

Coming back to this. Judaism also reject the Deity of Jesus and the trinity so going by your logic Christianity and Judaism don't worship the same Abrahamic God right.

The man they are defending

Havertz10:
I know this history very well, it was the Age of Enlightenment then led to the world we see today and religion played no part


How can a religion that spent centuries teaching its followers that up was heaven, conceptualize space

Load of absolute nonsense again. You are really bad at this atheist more like antichristian thing my man. LOL

Capaldi:

When you are done with all these your nonsense and are ready to provide your so called verses/passages then mention me.

Christians and Muslims don't worship the same god.

Christians worship Jehovah/Yahweh, an entity native to Israel who claims the title God in the Bible.

Muslims worship Allah, an entity native to Arabia who claims the title God in Qur'an.

Each of these deities is different, with distinct histories. Only those that don't know the history of Yahweh and Allah say they're the same.

According to the Bible, Yahweh gave birth to Jesus Christ. But according to Qur'an, Allah gave birth to no one, which is one of his most important attributes.

Saying Muslims and Christians worship the same God is tantamount to stating Israel's Herzog is the same as the Saudi Arabia's King Salman, but both are different individuals being the leaders of the two Asian countries respectively.

In history, thousands of gods have been worshipped by humans, including Atum, El (or Elohim), Baal, Ra, Allah, Olorun, Jehovah, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Mithras, Chukwu, Sin, and many others.

Each of these gods has all claimed the title of God at one point or the other in history. Thus, it's incorrect historically and etymologically to say Allah is the same as Jehovah.

Most Christians pray to the pagan god El or Elohim thinking they're praying to Jehovah. But both are distinct entities with different histories.

I just laugh whenever I see all these pastors shouting El-Shaddai. They don't know El or Elohim was an adversary of Jehovah.

But the clever writers of the Bible plagiarized the writings of god El, importing concepts like hell into Christianity, and also copied the religious texts of Mithras and those of the ancient Egyptians.

Hundreds of years later, Muhammad also plagiarized the Bible, especially the Jewish writings, to get Qur'an.

Also, before Jesus Christ, the fictitious character designed by Rome to dominate other nations, there had been many Kristas that claimed to be the savior of their people.

Most religious people don't carry out objective research of the history of the god they worship. But it's very important.

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Android22:
Load of absolute nonsense again. You are really bad at this atheist thing my man. LOL

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Counter him with facts, and leave empty talk aside .

If you know you have nothing reasonable to say, you step aside.

ShadowWalker00:
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Counter him with facts, and leave empty talk aside .

If you know you have nothing reasonable to say, you step aside.

I can make the same argument to you but you are a terrorist apologist obviously so I won't be wasting my precious time on you any further.

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Android22:
I can make the same argument to you but you are a terrorist apologist obviously so I won't be wasting my precious time on you any further.

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Foolish empty talk .

Like I want a Boko Haramist to agree with me.

A001:

Christians and Muslims don't worship the same god.

Christians worship Jehovah/Yahweh, an entity native to Israel who claims the title God in the Bible.

Muslims worship Allah, an entity native to Arabia who claims the title God in Qur'an.

Each of these deities is different, with distinct histories. Only those that don't know the history of Yahweh and Allah say they're the same.

According to the Bible, Yahweh gave birth to Jesus Christ. But according to Qur'an, Allah gave birth to no one, which is one of his most important attributes.

Saying Muslims and Christians worship the same God is tantamount to stating Israel's Herzog is the same as the Saudi Arabia's King Salman, but both are different individuals being the leaders of the two Asian countries respectively.

In history, thousands of gods have been worshipped by humans, including Atum, El (or Elohim), Baal, Ra, Allah, Olorun, Jehovah, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Mithras, Chukwu, and many others.

Each of these gods has all claimed the title of God at one point or the other in history. Thus, it's incorrect historically and etymologically to say Allah is the same as Jehovah.

Most Christians pray to the pagan god El or Elohim thinking they're praying to Jehovah. But both are distinct entities with different histories.

I just laugh whenever I see all these pastors shouting El-Shaddai. They don't know El or Elohim was an adversary of Jehovah.

But the clever writers of the Bible plagiarized the writings of god El, importing concepts like hell into Christianity, and also copied the religious texts of Mithras and those of the ancient Egyptians.

Hundreds of years later, Muhammad also plagiarized the Bible, especially the Jewish writings, to get Qur'an.

Also, before Jesus Christ, the fictitious character designed by Rome to dominate other nations, there had been many Kristas that claimed to be the savior of their people.

Most religious people don't carry out objective research of the history of the god they worship. But it's very important.

Bro all what you have typed are religious conspiracies so I don't know where to start from. First of all the conspiracy that Jesus was a fictional character has been rejected by all scholars of antiquity. Don't be fooled by Joseph Atwill delusion that Jesus was a Roman construct.

ShadowWalker00:
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Counter him with facts, and leave empty talk aside .

If you know you have nothing reasonable to say, you step aside.

I was laughing when he was telling someone to admit being ignorant over something before he bring his point.

Person wey get point no dey demand for anything, e go drop am counter you or ignore totally.

Of course, Miriam is Mary only that one is Moses' sister and the other is Jesus's mother but you know, factual intellectuals and what not.

Age of Enlightenment is 17th to 18th century. There was therefore no Christianity prior to that time.

Leyqute:
Chic2pimp congratulations ooooo.

When was chic2pimp last seen on this board?

The league ain't over though but fingers crossed for Tomori and Giroud.

Not to mention Ibra winning league at 40. The only nigga that will go down a legend at Inter, Milan and Juve.

A001:

Christians and Muslims don't worship the same god.

Christians worship Jehovah/Yahweh, an entity native to Israel who claims the title God in the Bible.

Muslims worship Allah, an entity native to Arabia who claims the title God in Qur'an.

Each of these deities is different, with distinct histories. Only those that don't know the history of Yahweh and Allah say they're the same.

According to the Bible, Yahweh gave birth to Jesus Christ. But according to Qur'an, Allah gave birth to no one, which is one of his most important attributes.

Saying Muslims and Christians worship the same God is tantamount to stating Israel's Herzog is the same as the Saudi Arabia's King Salman, but both are different individuals being the leaders of the two Asian countries respectively.

In history, thousands of gods have been worshipped by humans, including Atum, El (or Elohim), Baal, Ra, Allah, Olorun, Jehovah, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Mithras, Chukwu, Sin, and many others.

Each of these gods has all claimed the title of God at one point or the other in history. Thus, it's incorrect historically and etymologically to say Allah is the same as Jehovah.

Most Christians pray to the pagan god El or Elohim thinking they're praying to Jehovah. But both are distinct entities with different histories.

I just laugh whenever I see all these pastors shouting El-Shaddai. They don't know El or Elohim was an adversary of Jehovah.

But the clever writers of the Bible plagiarized the writings of god El, importing concepts like hell into Christianity, and also copied the religious texts of Mithras and those of the ancient Egyptians.

Hundreds of years later, Muhammad also plagiarized the Bible, especially the Jewish writings, to get Qur'an.

Also, before Jesus Christ, the fictitious character designed by Rome to dominate other nations, there had been many Kristas that claimed to be the savior of their people.

Most religious people don't carry out objective research of the history of the god they worship. But it's very important.

For a start what do Arab Christians call "God"?

Jesus was a fictional character but the greatest Jewish historian, Josephus said he not only was real but that even a staunch Jew like himself struggles to refer to him as just a man. But people on Nairaland know more than Josephus.

Amoto94:
For a start what do Arab Christians call "God"?

Arab christians call "God" Allah.

A Mancity player is named Jesus. He must be the God Christians believe in.

Capaldi:

Bro all what you have typed are religious conspiracies so I don't know where to start from. First of all the conspiracy that Jesus was a fictional character has been rejected by all scholars of antiquity.

Lols. It's a religious conspiracy to say Jehovah isn't the same entity as Allah?

It shows you don't know much about Jehovah, the God of the Bible, and Allah, the God of the Qur'an.

Well, I'm not surprised; most Christians I know don't know a lot about the Bible.

It's a historical fact that each of Allah, Jehovah, and El (or Elohim or El-Shaddai) has claimed the title of God Almighty in their religious text.

El had reigned before your religion was created.

You're merely reacting to my post emotionally. But anyone that researches the history of your religion will easily discover that Jesus Christ isn't a real person.

He's just an idea based on a real human that had lived in the past (extinct) world.

Capaldi:

Arab christians call "God" Allah.

Don't help him out. There were/are Jews and Christians in Yemen and "Yathrib"/"Madeenah" before the Prophet and they speak Arabic.

Amoto94:

For a start what do Arab Christians call "God"?

They call God Allah. Yoruba Christians call God Olohun, which they erroneously regard as Yahweh as well.

That doesn't make Allah to be the same as Yahweh and to be the same as Olohun.

But each of Allah, Jehovah, and Olohun has claimed the title of God Almighty as I said above.

Olohun, native to Yorubaland, gave birth to Obatala and Odua as his children, with Orunmila his companion.

Yahweh, native to Israel, gave birth to Jesus, while Allah, native to Arabia, gave birth to no one.

These are different entities, with each claiming to be God Almighty.

Android22:
A Mancity player is named Jesus. He must be the God Christians believe in.

Eruditor you are smart but on Fraudiola's matter, you fvcked up and you can never raise your hands when people that never fvcked up are called. Those hands are actually gone.

A001:

Lols. It's a religious conspiracy to say Jehovah isn't the same entity as Allah?

It shows you don't know much about Jehovah, the God of the Bible, and Allah, the God of the Qur'an.

Well, I'm not surprised; most Christians I know don't know a lot about the Bible.

It's a historical fact that each of Allah, Jehovah, and El (or Elohim or El-Shaddai) has claimed the title of God Almighty in their religious text.

El had reigned before your religion was created.

You're merely reacting to my post emotionally. But anyone that researches the history of your religion will easily discover that Jesus Christ isn't a real person.

He's just an idea based on a real human that had lived in the past (extinct) world.

You don't know my religion so stop all those crap. Both Judaism, Christianity and Muslim worship the same Abrahamic God. Allah is just the Arabic word for "the God". Allah, Jehovah,Yaweh etc are used to refer to the same God in different languages. Jesus Christ has been proven by various theologist and historian to be an actual person that existed so stop believing Joseph Atwill delusion that He was a fictional character created by the Romans.

Havertz10:
they tried to rewrite history, amusing part is as usual they contradict themselves, how can an all knowing, all seeing, omnipresent being, make mistakes and change his ways

Enough that generations of logic are no longer valid

Bible is very contradicting.

Like, annoyingly contradicting, there’s a verse that even said you need to be a fool to understand the Bible, that you don’t need to be reasonable with thinking to understand the Bible. E get as them take put am.

The verse was making it clear that religion and common sense don’t work together.

I’ve decided to apply 50% religion and 50% common sense, that’s why I’ll proudly say anyday that I’m a Christian who don’t fully believe in Bible. I don’t care if there’s a name for such kind of people, but I’ll gladly be the first if there’s not.

popizaino:



Ironically, the only coach that I think over achieve with his squad is this same Tuchel and that's unto last season, any manager that's starts a season with a team and has the opportunity of playing pre-season with the club should be responsible for whatever outcome.

This assumes that Chelsea managers get the opportunity to mould the team to their spec which is far from fact in the Roman era. The only manager who had such carte-blanche was Mourinho in 2004 and Roman still wrecked that teams dominance with the forced introduction of Shevchenko that made Jose change shape to 4-4-2 diamond to accomodate Sheva and chased our wingers like Robben away

Amoto94:
Ibime, Popizaino, Donjazet, Roland17, Raumdeuter, Afrodoc, Blueraydick, Airmark, Unlimited22 read this.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1164036820998720&id=100021772396215&m_entstream_source=timeline

Didn't you read the genesis of what happened from the screenshots I shared earlier. Or did you skip it.

All the answers the sanusi guy needs is there

donstan18:

Bible is very contradicting.

Like, annoyingly contradicting, there’s a verse that even said you need to be a fool to understand the Bible, that you don’t need to be reasonable with thinking to understand the Bible. E get as them take put am.

The verse was making it clear that religion and common sense don’t work together.

I’ve decided to apply 50% religion and 50% common sense, that’s why I’ll proudly say anyday that I’m a Christian who don’t fully believe in Bible. I don’t care if there’s a name for such kind of people, but I’ll gladly be the first if there’s not.

low budget atheist

Havertz10:
low budget atheist

I sincerely don’t like atheists, lol.

I see them as confused people who take advantage of non-violent Christians to attack them. You’ll hardly see them attacking or countering Islamic beliefs, always Christians.

That’s why I don’t rate anyone that claims to be an atheist.

Capaldi:

You don't know my religion so stop all those crap. Both Judaism, Christianity and Muslim worship the same Abrahamic God. Allah is just the Arabic word for "the God". Allah, Jehovah,Yaweh etc are used to refer to the same God in different languages. Jesus Christ has been proven by various theologist and historian to be an actual person that existed so stop believing Joseph Atwill delusion that He was a fictional character created by the Romans.

I don't even know who Joseph Atwill is. I did my own research independently and extensively some years back and came to that conclusion.

If you say Yeshua was a real person, that's true according to my own findings. But if you say Jesus was a real person, I won't agree with you.

Jesus Christ is just an idea invented by Rome using the history of Yeshua, who was a giant man that existed in the homo erectus era.

Some Christians that don't know this fact tried to fast for forty days and forty nights (as a homo sapiens) like Jesus did in the Bible, which imperiled their health.

But they don't know that the Jesus himself is an idea (a word), which the clever writers of the Bible invented based on the history of a giant man (Yeshua) that lived in the old world, and his massive body could sustain the fast of forty days and forty nights.

Some of the miracles that Jesus supposedly did such as Yeshu's very loud voice, sharper sight and sharper hearing as a homo erectus were due to the natural abilities of the old human species. They were nothing supernatural or spiritual.

But others were illusions, tricks manipulating certain properties of nature.

If you follow research in archeology and paleontology, you can learn about the old (extinct) human species, especially homo erectus.