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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:07pm On May 15, 2022 |
NinjaXmetahuman:I know this history very well, it was the Age of Enlightenment then led to the world we see today and religion played no part How can a religion that spent centuries teaching its followers that up was heaven, conceptualize space 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:10pm On May 15, 2022 |
Ellexy:Coming back to this. Judaism also reject the Deity of Jesus and the trinity so going by your logic Christianity and Judaism don't worship the same Abrahamic God right. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 50d33q: 7:22pm On May 15, 2022 |
The man they are defending
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 7:22pm On May 15, 2022 |
Havertz10:Load of absolute nonsense again. You are really bad at this atheist more like antichristian thing my man. LOL |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 7:23pm On May 15, 2022 |
Capaldi:Christians and Muslims don't worship the same god. Christians worship Jehovah/Yahweh, an entity native to Israel who claims the title God in the Bible. Muslims worship Allah, an entity native to Arabia who claims the title God in Qur'an. Each of these deities is different, with distinct histories. Only those that don't know the history of Yahweh and Allah say they're the same. According to the Bible, Yahweh gave birth to Jesus Christ. But according to Qur'an, Allah gave birth to no one, which is one of his most important attributes. Saying Muslims and Christians worship the same God is tantamount to stating Israel's Herzog is the same as the Saudi Arabia's King Salman, but both are different individuals being the leaders of the two Asian countries respectively. In history, thousands of gods have been worshipped by humans, including Atum, El (or Elohim), Baal, Ra, Allah, Olorun, Jehovah, Zeus, Ahura Mazda, Mithras, Chukwu, Sin, and many others. Each of these gods has all claimed the title of God at one point or the other in history. Thus, it's incorrect historically and etymologically to say Allah is the same as Jehovah. Most Christians pray to the pagan god El or Elohim thinking they're praying to Jehovah. But both are distinct entities with different histories. I just laugh whenever I see all these pastors shouting El-Shaddai. They don't know El or Elohim was an adversary of Jehovah. But the clever writers of the Bible plagiarized the writings of god El, importing concepts like hell into Christianity, and also copied the religious texts of Mithras and those of the ancient Egyptians. Hundreds of years later, Muhammad also plagiarized the Bible, especially the Jewish writings, to get Qur'an. Also, before Jesus Christ, the fictitious character designed by Rome to dominate other nations, there had been many Kristas that claimed to be the savior of their people. Most religious people don't carry out objective research of the history of the god they worship. But it's very important. 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ShadowWalker00(m): 7:25pm On May 15, 2022 |
[s] Android22:[/s] Counter him with facts, and leave empty talk aside . If you know you have nothing reasonable to say, you step aside. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:31pm On May 15, 2022 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 7:32pm On May 15, 2022 |
ShadowWalker00:I can make the same argument to you but you are a terrorist apologist obviously so I won't be wasting my precious time on you any further. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ShadowWalker00(m): 7:35pm On May 15, 2022 |
[s] Android22:[/s] Foolish empty talk . 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 7:36pm On May 15, 2022 |
Like I want a Boko Haramist to agree with me. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:39pm On May 15, 2022 |
A001:Bro all what you have typed are religious conspiracies so I don't know where to start from. First of all the conspiracy that Jesus was a fictional character has been rejected by all scholars of antiquity. Don't be fooled by Joseph Atwill delusion that Jesus was a Roman construct. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:40pm On May 15, 2022 |
ShadowWalker00:I was laughing when he was telling someone to admit being ignorant over something before he bring his point. Person wey get point no dey demand for anything, e go drop am counter you or ignore totally. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 7:42pm On May 15, 2022 |
Of course, Miriam is Mary only that one is Moses' sister and the other is Jesus's mother but you know, factual intellectuals and what not. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 7:44pm On May 15, 2022 |
Age of Enlightenment is 17th to 18th century. There was therefore no Christianity prior to that time. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:44pm On May 15, 2022 |
Leyqute: When was chic2pimp last seen on this board? The league ain't over though but fingers crossed for Tomori and Giroud. Not to mention Ibra winning league at 40. The only nigga that will go down a legend at Inter, Milan and Juve. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 7:44pm On May 15, 2022 |
A001:For a start what do Arab Christians call "God"? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 7:46pm On May 15, 2022 |
Jesus was a fictional character but the greatest Jewish historian, Josephus said he not only was real but that even a staunch Jew like himself struggles to refer to him as just a man. But people on Nairaland know more than Josephus. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:46pm On May 15, 2022 |
Amoto94:Arab christians call "God" Allah. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 7:47pm On May 15, 2022 |
A Mancity player is named Jesus. He must be the God Christians believe in. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 7:49pm On May 15, 2022 |
Capaldi:Lols. It's a religious conspiracy to say Jehovah isn't the same entity as Allah? It shows you don't know much about Jehovah, the God of the Bible, and Allah, the God of the Qur'an. Well, I'm not surprised; most Christians I know don't know a lot about the Bible. It's a historical fact that each of Allah, Jehovah, and El (or Elohim or El-Shaddai) has claimed the title of God Almighty in their religious text. El had reigned before your religion was created. You're merely reacting to my post emotionally. But anyone that researches the history of your religion will easily discover that Jesus Christ isn't a real person. He's just an idea based on a real human that had lived in the past (extinct) world. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 7:53pm On May 15, 2022 |
Capaldi:Don't help him out. There were/are Jews and Christians in Yemen and "Yathrib"/"Madeenah" before the Prophet and they speak Arabic. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 7:56pm On May 15, 2022 |
Amoto94:They call God Allah. Yoruba Christians call God Olohun, which they erroneously regard as Yahweh as well. That doesn't make Allah to be the same as Yahweh and to be the same as Olohun. But each of Allah, Jehovah, and Olohun has claimed the title of God Almighty as I said above. Olohun, native to Yorubaland, gave birth to Obatala and Odua as his children, with Orunmila his companion. Yahweh, native to Israel, gave birth to Jesus, while Allah, native to Arabia, gave birth to no one. These are different entities, with each claiming to be God Almighty. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:57pm On May 15, 2022 |
Android22: Eruditor you are smart but on Fraudiola's matter, you fvcked up and you can never raise your hands when people that never fvcked up are called. Those hands are actually gone. 24 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:58pm On May 15, 2022 |
A001:You don't know my religion so stop all those crap. Both Judaism, Christianity and Muslim worship the same Abrahamic God. Allah is just the Arabic word for "the God". Allah, Jehovah,Yaweh etc are used to refer to the same God in different languages. Jesus Christ has been proven by various theologist and historian to be an actual person that existed so stop believing Joseph Atwill delusion that He was a fictional character created by the Romans. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:00pm On May 15, 2022 |
Havertz10:Bible is very contradicting. Like, annoyingly contradicting, there’s a verse that even said you need to be a fool to understand the Bible, that you don’t need to be reasonable with thinking to understand the Bible. E get as them take put am. The verse was making it clear that religion and common sense don’t work together. I’ve decided to apply 50% religion and 50% common sense, that’s why I’ll proudly say anyday that I’m a Christian who don’t fully believe in Bible. I don’t care if there’s a name for such kind of people, but I’ll gladly be the first if there’s not. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:01pm On May 15, 2022 |
popizaino: This assumes that Chelsea managers get the opportunity to mould the team to their spec which is far from fact in the Roman era. The only manager who had such carte-blanche was Mourinho in 2004 and Roman still wrecked that teams dominance with the forced introduction of Shevchenko that made Jose change shape to 4-4-2 diamond to accomodate Sheva and chased our wingers like Robben away 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android22: 8:03pm On May 15, 2022 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 8:04pm On May 15, 2022 |
Amoto94:Didn't you read the genesis of what happened from the screenshots I shared earlier. Or did you skip it. All the answers the sanusi guy needs is there |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 8:07pm On May 15, 2022 |
How I wish this matter can rest abeg. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:07pm On May 15, 2022 |
donstan18:low budget atheist |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:14pm On May 15, 2022 |
Havertz10:I sincerely don’t like atheists, lol. I see them as confused people who take advantage of non-violent Christians to attack them. You’ll hardly see them attacking or countering Islamic beliefs, always Christians. That’s why I don’t rate anyone that claims to be an atheist. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 8:15pm On May 15, 2022 |
Capaldi:I don't even know who Joseph Atwill is. I did my own research independently and extensively some years back and came to that conclusion. If you say Yeshua was a real person, that's true according to my own findings. But if you say Jesus was a real person, I won't agree with you. Jesus Christ is just an idea invented by Rome using the history of Yeshua, who was a giant man that existed in the homo erectus era. Some Christians that don't know this fact tried to fast for forty days and forty nights (as a homo sapiens) like Jesus did in the Bible, which imperiled their health. But they don't know that the Jesus himself is an idea (a word), which the clever writers of the Bible invented based on the history of a giant man (Yeshua) that lived in the old world, and his massive body could sustain the fast of forty days and forty nights. Some of the miracles that Jesus supposedly did such as Yeshu's very loud voice, sharper sight and sharper hearing as a homo erectus were due to the natural abilities of the old human species. They were nothing supernatural or spiritual. But others were illusions, tricks manipulating certain properties of nature. If you follow research in archeology and paleontology, you can learn about the old (extinct) human species, especially homo erectus. |
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