Oasis007:




UAE?..... LMFAO

They are doing worse than homosexuality in UAE, especially Dubai and Sharjah. Forget UAE bro. They only care about making Money from Tourists not Shariah. Spend good time at Marina, JBR, JLT and your Eyes gonna open to reality in UAE.

I started by saying I am not judging anyone. I know that some Muslims engage in it but officially it is regarded as morally wrong in Islam right? That is what I mean.

Oasis007, let's back it up a little.

I have been insistently focus on the root cause of the issue and how to prevent another Deborah being killed by your people.

Deborah was accused of blasphemy. Nobody knows what the blasphemy was.
People who are condemning the death are saying she should have been tried on sharia court for blasphemy which is still the death penalty.

Now I ask, what is blasphemy and who determines what is blasphemy?
If I call Mohammed a child fvcker which is in fact true, am I blaspheming?? Do I deserve death for that.

Oasis007, I await your reply.

andrewbaba44:
Liverpool go still find way win this game

FC Brokelona.

donjazet1:
Oasis007, let's back it up a little.

I have been insistently focus on the root cause of the issue and how to prevent another Deborah being killed by your people.

Deborah was accused of blasphemy. Nobody knows what the blasphemy was.
People who are condemning the death are saying she should have been tried on sharia court for blasphemy which is still the death penalty.

Now I ask, what is blasphemy and who determines what is blasphemy?
If I call Mohammed a child fvcker which is in fact true, am I blaspheming?? Do I deserve death for that.

Oasis007, I await your reply.

I am neither Otem nor Atum. Ain't a Theologist either. You may need to visit North, so many Ulamas in the North and your Curiosity would be well taken care of.

You don't need to visit core North, coz they are unpredictable and may not take it lightly. At least Ilorin Ulamas are moderate and accommodating.

Make it a Project Topic. Do your research and publish it. Hopefully you gonna help making the World a better place for Everyone regardless of Religion and Race.

Help to heal the World.

Android22:
I started by saying I am not judging anyone. I know that some Muslims engage in it but officially it is regarded as morally wrong in Islam right? That is what I mean.

Yes.... its unislamic but what you Guys are preaching are already taking shape - Reform. Last year, Dubai Emirate unban consumption of Alcoholic Drinks. Guess you know its unislamic too?

Rixos Hotel at JBR has a big Banner of Sheikh Maktoum hoisted above main entrance, but what's going inside the Hotel eh? Jez try Lock, Stock and Barrel (Club) inside the Hotel..... Iroyin o to amojuba.

GloriousGbola:


This is the problem. This happened centuries ago. But Muslims today use it to justify marrying children. If marrying children was not a sadly conspicuous part of Islamic culture, particularly in backward countries no one would be shouting Muhammed was xxxx.


But right in Nigeria we have sitting governors (yerima) marrying 10 year olds and citing Prophet Muhammad

Christians have it lucky. They were not obsessed with proudly documenting everything for posterity. Las Las they will say, it was allegorical.

THIS! THIS!! THIS!!!

Oasis007:


I am neither Otem nor Atum. Ain't a Theologist either. You may need to visit North, so many Ulamas in the North and your Curiosity would be well taken care of.

You don't need to visit core North, coz they are unpredictable and may not take it lightly. At least Ilorin Ulamas are moderate and accommodating.

Make it a Project Topic. Do your research and publish it. Hopefully you gonna help making the World a better place for Everyone regardless of Religion and Race.

Help to heal the World.

In other words you don't have the answer to my question. Oya shift let me find a moslem here that has the answer to my question.

donjazet1:


In other words you don't have the answer to my question. Oya shift let me find a moslem here that has the answer to my question.

No wahala.... fire on Bruh.

airmark:


This is a booby trap, none of these guys disturbing here trying to defend a paedophile, wouldn't want to fall into.

Who in historical times are you referring to?

It will help us put it into the proper context...

patrickmuf:
Who in historical times are you referring to?

It will help us put it into the proper context...

As recorded, Muslims leader, Mohammed.

donjazet1:


My brother at the end of the day, I'm just frustrated with the situation of things.

I need more Muslims who are less radical like you to be able to bring your brothers in line.

Atiku withdrawing his condemnation and firing his social media team was a massive trigger for me. It laid bare the raw situation of things. The fact that someone who wants to govern a secular nation cannot condemn a murder we've witnessed in broad daylight just exhibited the story of Nigeria and told us all we needed to know about who owns the country.

The least I felt I can do is push the Muslims we have hear to take a stance. Take an open stance, and if you're not in support of the barbarism, face your brothers who are, and change their minds! Initiate a reform of Islam.

One love brother.

Atiku's move was purely political and nothing to do with his endorsement or not of the act...He realized from the responses that his condemnation of the act might have negative effect on his chances at the poll should he get the PDP ticket hence he deleted the post.

Several aspirants have looked the other way because for them, their political ambition is number one. To be honest, most politicians will only play to the gallery at this point.

donjazet1:


I've been asking them since to help me answer if it's blasphemy to call Mohammed a child fvcker. None can answer my question.

airmark:

ehe na. They say make I no use pedophile, say na criminal word. Make I use child fvcker na. No be so?

patrickmuf:
Atiku's move was purely political and nothing to do with his endorsement or not of the act...He realized from the responses that his condemnation of the act might have negative effect on his chances at the poll should he get the PDP ticket hence he deleted the post.

Several aspirants have looked the other way because for them, their political ambition is number one. To be honest, most politicians will only play to the gallery at this point.

I know this already.
I'm saying that this reflects that we are essentially owned by a whole lot of people who see nothing wrong with lynching an innocent girl. We share this country with barbaric animals like amoto.

airmark:


As recorded, Muslims leader, Mohammed.

Remember David and Uriah's wife?

patrickmuf:
Atiku's move was purely political and nothing to do with his endorsement or not of the act...He realized from the responses that his condemnation of the act might have negative effect on his chances at the poll should he get the PDP ticket hence he deleted the post.

Several aspirants have looked the other way because for them, their political ambition is number one. To be honest, most politicians will only play to the gallery at this point.

Do you know that if care is not taken, in future some people would opine that it was not a crime to kill and burn blasphemers in Sokoto, simply because the perpetrators were not arrested and convicted, despite the federal law frowning against it.

Setting bad precedence and keeping mute is what wrecked the society.

donjazet1:


I know this already.
I'm saying that this reflects that we are essentially owned by a whole lot of people who see nothing wrong with lynching an innocent girl. We share this country with barbaric animals like amoto.

Where is the statement from. Wike, Obi, Tinubu, Udom, Ayade, Fayemi etc? It's all political bro...

Please I do not subscribe to name calling. On one hand, you're trying to get someone to change his views on death penalty as a punishment for blasphemy and on the other you're attacking him with almost every post.

You can be more civil bro...

airmark:


Do you know that if care is not taken, in future some people would opine that it was not a crime to kill and burn blasphemers in Sokoto, simply because the perpetrators were not arrested and convicted.

Setting bad precedence and keeping mute is what wrecked the society.

Atiku's move was purely political that's why others have not bothered to make any statement...If you must be critical here, you'd acknowledge that 98% of our political leaders are guilty...I won't accept if want to tie it to his religion...

An atheist was imprisoned in the north for blasphemy. imprisoned for 25 years because of that. A Christian has just been burnt after being lynched to death for alleged blasphemy. both of these things happened in the same region of the country this year.

don't worry brothers. e go reach everybody

patrickmuf:
Remember David and Uriah's wife?

He got punished by God subsequently, wasn't he?

airmark:


He got punished by God subsequently, wasn't he?

Because it is bad (Taking someone's life). The argument here is that; was it wrong in those times for Mohammed to marry a child? Yes or No...If you can't prove it was wrong, then there's no basis to drag the argument further...

patrickmuf:
Atiku's move was purely political that's why others have not bothered to make any statement...If you must be critical here, you'd acknowledge that 98% of our political leaders are guilty...I won't accept if want to tie it to his religion...

He claimed his handler posted it without his knowledge i.e he never cared. So when he was informed, they were asked to delete it. So he never cared technically.

patrickmuf:
Because it is bad (Taking someone's life). The argument here is that; was it wrong in those times for Mohammed to marry a child? Yes or No...If you can't prove it was wrong, then there's no basis to drag the argument further...

Who else without power to kill like Mohammed, in Bukhari Hadith married a 9yr old or below? Even that Jew that he killed her husband and possessed, was 17.

Aisha was still playing with teddy bear, so she was still a child and i want another story like this in Sahih hadith.

airmark:


He claimed his handler posted it without his knowledge i.e he never cared. So when he was informed, they were asked to delete it. So he never cared technically.

No politicians cares for any thing else other than how to get to power in these times...

Trust me, if this thing happened in 2020, Wike would have led the tirade on the North...

airmark:


Who else without power to kill like Mohammed, in Bukhari Hadith married a 9yr old or below? Even that Jew that he killed her husband and possessed, was 17.

Aisha was still playing with teddy bear, so she was still a child and i want another story like this in Sahih hadith.

I have asked you to show me prove that marrying a 9yrs old girl was against the norms as at that time...If you do, the back and forth ends immediately...

airmark:


He claimed his handler posted it without his knowledge i.e he never cared. So when he was informed, they were asked to delete it. So he never cared technically.

U expect a politician to sacrifice his political ambition on the alter of morality ?

Was it not Tinubu a Southerner that was asking “ Where are the cows?” When Fulani herdsmen killed Per Fasoranti’s daughter ( a fellow southerner ) on the expressway ? He was not willing to call a spade a spade for political reasons . Politicians are always like that

patrickmuf:
No politicians cares for any thing else other than how to get to power in these times...

Trust me, if this thing happened in 2020, Wike would have led the tirade on the North...

I understand but at least Osinbajo condemned it and still went to the north days after, so nothing stopped Atiku from being human.

BlueRayDick:


U expect a politician to sacrifice his political ambition on the alter of morality ?

Was it not Tinubu a Southerner that was asking “ Where are the cows?” When Fulani herdsmen killed Per Fasoranti’s daughter ( a fellow southerner ) on the expressway ? He was not willing to call a spade a spade for political reasons . Politicians are always like that

His defence was ludicrous and that exposed him to be unbothered naturally.

airmark:


His defence was ludicrous and that exposed him to be unbothered naturally.

He said that to pacify his would be voters in the north that are majorly fanatics .

patrickmuf:
I have asked you to show me prove that marrying a 9yrs old girl was against the norms as at that time...If you do, the back and forth ends immediately...

The proof is that only a bully was recorded to have done it in Sahih hadith.

BlueRayDick:


He said that to pacify his would be voters in the north that are majorly fanatics .

Osinbajo, not a politician, right?