Steep:
you are an heretics.

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


Are.these not gentiles who were washed/redeemed in the blood of Jesus?

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Paul's charged the elders of the church.
The church consists of both Jews and gentiles,
It is the whole church that was purchased by the blood of Jesus.

Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:


1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

To the saints in Ephesus not only jews but gentiles too.

Again Paul speaking to the Corinthians both jews and gentiles.
They were all bought or redeemed by the blood of Jesus.
1 Corinthians 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Repentance and remission of sins to be preached to all nations

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

The righteousness of God upon all who believes both jews and gentiles.

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

The is the propitiation for sins.
Proportion means to appease or redeem from God's wrath.

Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.


I just post this so you don't miss lead the ignorant.

None of what you quoted here counter any of what I have so far as I am not certain why you are quick to accuse me of heresy when you are not being coherent in this at all.

Kobojunkie:
Did you bother reading the passage you quoted at all? There is no mention of only those "bought by Him" aka the redeemed as it was in the passage from revelation so did you simply do a search for a mention of all people's, nations ... only to assume that would suffice to be claimed the same?

Look, here's what Jesus Christ Himself told you as far as redemption/salvation for you.
Redemption/Salvation comes at the end, not in-between nor even at the beginning for you. The passage above tells you that only those who belong to the Kingdom of God that stand faithful until their very end will be saved aka enter into Heaven. Those who fall on the way side will not make it in. Does that sound anything like your "bought(past tense) by Him" idea? .

Both the book of Revelation and Daniel were speaking about judgement at the end times.
Both spoke about the redeemed coming from all languages, nationalities

But like I said, only you understand yourself and your reasoning

AntiChristian:


Jesus attended a wedding in Cana where he did his first miracle according to the Bible.
Did he gave them your advice above prior to the wedding?

Jesus does not poke-nose in every affairs of men like someone who advises his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine. The list is endless as only Allah and his apostle know of such nonsensical things.

If you think I lie about this, ask me for evidences!

TenQ:

Jesus does not poke-nose in every affairs of men like someone who advises his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine. The list is endless as only Allah and his apostle know of such nonsensical things.

Christianity was not Jesus's creation! We know it was created far later. What does the New testament narrate? The first 4 books gives the biography of Jesus while the others were mostly letters! And this is what you call scriptures!

This nonsense you typed above are inspired to you by the Holy Spirit too right? You write nonsense and claim you are in spirit? Spirit or devil?

If you think I lie about this, ask me for evidences!

If you have any evidence you should have included it before.

Jesus attended a wedding but gave no advice except to give them wine!
But you are here saying what Jesus never said!

TenQ:

Both the book of Revelation and Daniel were speaking about judgement at the end times.
Both spoke about the redeemed coming from all languages, nationalities

But like I said, only you understand yourself and your reasoning

Actually, the passage you quoted from Daniel may have been referencing the judgement but I don't believe the one you quoted from Revelations was in fact speaking of The judgement to come but instead referencing the events to take place before judgement which is dealt with is later chapters of Revelations , just after the so-called rapture.

You only need to pay close attention when reading through John's book if dreams to realize it is a linear record of events, not random.

TenQ:

Jesus does not poke-nose in every affairs of men like someone who advises his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine. The list is endless as only Allah and his apostle know of such nonsensical things.

If you think I lie about this, ask me for evidences!

Jesus Christ told you your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God, verifying God's statement from the beginning, declaring that your decisions are far as your marriage is all your own and regardless of what you chose in your partner, it doesn't impact your stance with Him.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ told you your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God, verifying God's statement from the beginning, declaring that your decisions are far as your marriage is all your own and regardless of what you chose in your partner, it doesn't impact your stance with Him.

Did Jesus advise his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine?

Kobojunkie:
Actually, the passage you quoted from Daniel may have been referencing the judgement but I don't believe the one you quoted from Revelations was in fact speaking of The judgement to come but instead referencing the events to take place before judgement which is dealt with is later chapters of Revelations , just after the so-called rapture.

You only need to pay close attention when reading through John's book if dreams to realize it is a linear record of events, not random.

Both scriptures indeed spoke about judgement.
Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll
and to open its seals,
because you were slain,
and with your blood you purchased for God
persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
and they will reign[b] on the earth.”

These will reign on the earth is an event to happen in future, meaning that UNTIL ALL the elect have been harvested from every tribe, language and nation before they reign on earth!

AntiChristian:

Christianity was not Jesus's creation! We know it was created far later. What does the New testament narrate? The first 4 books gives the biography of Jesus while the others were mostly letters! And this is what you call scriptures!

This nonsense you typed above are inspired to you by the Holy Spirit too right? You write nonsense and claim you are in spirit? Spirit or devil?



If you have any evidence you should have included it before.

Jesus attended a wedding but gave no advice except to give them wine!
But you are here saying what Jesus never said!

Jesus did NOT come to establish any religion. He came to establish a relationship between man and God whereby a man becomes a CHILD of GOD!

John 1:11-12
11He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God — 13 children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God

By which spirit did mohammed inspired that his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine.

Was it one of the session when satan entered Mohammed and he began to recite the satanic verses as part of the Quran thinking that it was Jubril?

TenQ:

Did Jesus advise his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine?

All what you have written above have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God. So I am not certain why you even think to associate Jesus Christ with any of it.

TenQ:

Both scriptures indeed spoke about judgement.
Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll
and to open its seals,
because you were slain,
and with your blood you purchased for God
persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
and they will reign[b] on the earth.”

These will reign on the earth is an event to happen in future, meaning that UNTIL ALL the elect have been harvested from every tribe, language and nation before they reign on earth!

Those who are to reign on Earth are those of Jewish descent who God promised a forever in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.

Jesus Christ's promise as given His followers is eternity in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this here world - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

Kobojunkie:
Those who are to reign on Earth are those of Jewish descent who God promised a forever in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.

Jesus Christ's promise as given His followers is eternity in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this here world - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

And the Jews are
every tribe and
every language and
every people and
every nation.

Check your comprehension sir

Kobojunkie:
All what you have written above have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God. So I am not certain why you even think to associate Jesus Christ with any of it.

Of course, it has nothing to do with Jesus AND it has everything to do with Mohammed
Mohammed advised his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine?

But you jumped into it as I was responding to a Moslem


I said that Jesus did not poke-nose into every affairs of men unlike Mohammed who advised dipping flies in drinks and drinking carmels uring...and you responded with

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ told you your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God, verifying God's statement from the beginning, declaring that your decisions are far as your marriage is all your own and regardless of what you chose in your partner, it doesn't impact your stance with Him.

TenQ:

Jesus did NOT come to establish any religion. He came to establish a relationship between man and God whereby a man becomes a CHILD of GOD!

John 1:11-12
11He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God — 13 children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God

We know he didn't! Someone impersonated him to establish Christianity. Thanks for admitting sha!

By which spirit did mohammed inspired that his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine.

Was it one of the session when satan entered Mohammed and he began to recite the satanic verses as part of the Quran thinking that it was Jubril?
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The same Angel Gabriel you call Satan is the same that visited Jesus in the Hausa/Arabic Bible as Jubril. Bunch of Hypocrites!

No one wants to become sons of God that sleeps with daughters of men impregnating them.

TenQ:

And the Jews are
every tribe and
every language and
every people and
every nation.

Check your comprehension sir

Again, ...The entire book of Revelations is based on what is a dream/vision of what is to come, is it not?

So, yes, it is indeed possible that John was too, even in that excerpt, focused in on just the jews.

TenQ:

Of course, it has nothing to do with Jesus AND it has everything to do with Mohammed
Mohammed advised his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine?

But you jumped into it as I was responding to a Moslem
I said that Jesus did not poke-nose into every affairs of men unlike Mohammed who advised dipping flies in drinks and drinking carmels uring...and you responded with

My comment was in regards to Jesus Christ and marriages - what God decreed in the beginning rendered Marriage an unholy union I.e. not of God and His Kingdom. So the term "Holy matrimony" is nothing but a lie!

Kobojunkie:
My comment was in regards to Jesus Christ and marriages - what God decreed in the beginning rendered Marriage an unholy union I.e. not of God and His Kingdom. So the term "Holy matrimony" is nothing but a lie!

But I was responding to a Muslim not you before you just jumped into another mans poo

TenQ:

But I was responding to a Muslim not you before you just jumped into another mans poo

So you were attempting to preach something different from that which Jesus Christ taught on the issue or what?,

Kobojunkie:
Again, ...The entire book of Revelations is based on what is a dream/vision of what is to come, is it not?

So, yes, it is indeed possible that John was too, even in that excerpt, focused in on just the jews.

Jews could NEVER be referred to as every people

TenQ:

Jews could NEVER be referred to as every people

They were referred to, by the same John, in conjunction with the world (the sins of the world) in John 1 vs 29, so why not?

AntiChristian:
We know he didn't! Someone impersonated him to establish Christianity. Thanks for admitting sha!

By which spirit did mohammed inspired that his followers to dip flies into their drinks (for in the wings is healing) or the one who gave instructions about breastfeeding adult men or the prophet who prescribes Carmel urine as medicine.

Was it one of the session when satan entered Mohammed and he began to recite the satanic verses as part of the Quran thinking that it was Jubril?


The same Angel Gabriel you call Satan is the same that visited Jesus in the Hausa/Arabic Bible as Jubril. Bunch of Hypocrites!

No one wants to become sons of God that sleeps with daughters of men impregnating them.

Unfortunately, it was Allah that was blowing into the underside of Mary!

Hausa bible has become your standard of IDENTITIES?
Isa in Hausa bible is different from Isa in the Quran == Isa in the Hausa bible died on the cross, Isa in the quran did not die
Angel Gabriel in the Hausa bible is different from Jubril of the Quran == Angel Gabriel always introduced himself to people in the bible, where did Jubril introduce himself to Mohammed
Allah in Hausa bible is different from Allah in the Quran == Allah in the bible is a Father, Allah in the Quran is a Slave Owner

They are not the same my freiend

We know that the imposture came in 600 years after these identities were first mentioned.

Kobojunkie:
They were referred to, by the same John, in conjunction with the world (the sins of the world) in John 1 vs 29, so why not?

Just find one verse where the Jews were referred to as every people in the bible.
Otherwise, you hold a false doctrine
QED!

TenQ:

Unfortunately, it was Allah that was blowing into the underside of Mary!

Hausa bible has become your standard of IDENTITIES?
Isa in Hausa bible is different from Isa in the Quran == Isa in the Hausa bible died on the cross, Isa in the quran did not die
Angel Gabriel in the Hausa bible is different from Jubril of the Quran == Angel Gabriel always introduced himself to people in the bible, where did Jubril introduce himself to Mohammed
Allah in Hausa bible is different from Allah in the Quran == Allah in the bible is a Father, Allah in the Quran is a Slave Owner

They are not the same my freiend

We know that the imposture came in 600 years after these identities were first mentioned.

No wonder your Jesus died saying it is finished!

Your brain don finish!

Kobojunkie:
So you were attempting to preach something different from that which Jesus Christ taught on the issue or what?,

A muslim said:
Did Jesus give the practical advice on Marriage in the marriage at Cana?
I told him Jesus does not poke-noise into every affairs of Men like his prophet

Then you jumped in uninvited!

Did Jesus teach Christian not to embezzle government money?
Did Jesus teach Christian husband to love their wives?
Did Jesus teach Children to honour and obey their parents?

Where then do you get your standard of behaviour in these respects?

TenQ:

Just find one verse where the Jews were referred to as every people in the bible.
Otherwise, you hold a false doctrine
QED!

I made a error there in my previous comment. It was not the same John but John the Baptist who made that statement.

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Unless you believe what is written is false, I suggest you instead to open your eyes to comprehending what is infact written to you as is written.

TenQ:

A muslim said:
Did Jesus give the practical advice on Marriage in the marriage at Cana?
I told him Jesus does not poke-noise into every affairs of Men like his prophet

Then you jumped in uninvited!

Did Jesus teach Christian not to embezzle government money?
Did Jesus teach Christian husband to love their wives?
Did Jesus teach Children to honour and obey their parents?

Where then do you get your standard of behaviour in these respects?

Jesus Christ gave us laws to live every moments of our lives by and it is those about 100 laws that dictate our behavior as His followers towards others.

▪︎Jesus Christ didn't teach husbands to love their wives. Instead He taught His followers to love one another and do to others as they would like for others to do to them.

▪︎Jesus Christ didn't need to teach His followers not to embezzle money from Government but He certainly instructed them to give to Caesar what is Caesar's ....".

▪︎Jesus Christ didn't teach children to honor their father and mother, instead He taught us all to love Him more than we love father, mother, sister, brother, wife, children, husband etc. . Those who love Him are those who live their lives in continuous submission to and obedience of His teachings(and commandments).

Jesus Christ is the standard as far as behavior in every moment of the lives of His followers. Essentially He is God over their very existence in that way.

Kobojunkie:
I made a error their in my previous comment. It was not the same John but John the Baptist who made that statement.

It doesnt change anything:
Just find one verse where the Jews were referred to as every people in the bible.
Otherwise, you hold a false doctrine
QED!

TenQ:

It doesnt change anything:
Just find one verse where the Jews were referred to as every people in the bible.
Otherwise, you hold a false doctrine
QED!

Again, the verse in question from John's book of Revelation is the verse in question.

Kobojunkie:
Again, the verse in question from John's book of Revelation is the verse in question.

No problem, as it doesnt change anything:

Just find one verse where the Jews were referred to as every people in the bible.
Otherwise, you hold a false doctrine
QED!

AntiChristian:


No wonder your Jesus died saying it is finished!

Your brain don finish!

...When alfa Antichristian becomes cornered!

TenQ:

No problem, as it doesnt change anything:

Just find one verse where the Jews were referred to as every people in the bible.
Otherwise, you hold a false doctrine
QED!

We already went through all of this in previous comments. That you refuse to accept what is written as is, is not a fault of mine.

Kobojunkie:
I made a error there in my previous comment. It was not the same John but John the Baptist who made that statement.

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Unless you believe what is written is false, I suggest you instead to open your eyes to comprehending what is infact written to you as is written.

You are not getting my point irrespective of whether John or John the Baptist said antthin doesnt matter.

I just need an information from you:
Just find one verse where the Jews were referred to as every people in the bible.
Otherwise, you hold a false doctrine
QED!

Based on
Rev 5:9-10
9 And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll
and to open its seals,
because you were slain,
and with your blood you purchased for God
persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
and they will reign on the earth.”