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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:55pm On May 23, 2022
"It is very important, the choice. Morata, for sure, is our first choice," said the 47-year-old head coach, who signed an improved contract with Chelsea this week.

"He is a good player, the right prospect for Chelsea and hopes to show his value with us.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:58pm On May 23, 2022
raumdeuter:
"It is very important, the choice. Morata, for sure, is our first choice," said the 47-year-old head coach, who signed an improved contract with Chelsea this week.

"He is a good player, the right prospect for Chelsea and hopes to show his value with us.

Be objective, is Conte a bad manager?

Leave bant aside, Conte and Pep, who do you feel has what it takes to build and make any team fearless without much spending?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:00am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Be objective, is Conte a bad manager?

Leave bant aside, Conte and Pep, who do you feel has what it takes to build and make any team fearless without much spending?

How can any sane person put Cuntay and Pep in the same sentence? And you say bant aside. What else beside bant will make you put Cuntay into any comparison that involves Pep?

This Cuntay has never played a CL semi despite coaching Chelsea Juventus and Inter

Shoe get size Cuntay dey the same level with them Arteta, Moyes, Ranieri and Brendan Rodgers

There is no objective person that will not mention Pep Guardiola when discussing the greatest coaches of all time, Only a lunatic will put Cuntay in the discussion of greatest coaches of all time

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:03am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


Debunk which lie that Cuntay himself said he wanted Morata?

"I like his [Morata's] technique. Physically he is a good player and for sure I need to work with him to ask him what I want from his job in the game. Morata is a good finisher, he showed this in the past.

"I think he made a good step (over the last three years) and now he is one of the best strikers in Europe.

"He has great potential, he can improve a lot and last season didn't play a lot of games and scored 20 goals.

"I wanted him when I was at Juventus before I left, in that period he was very young but now with experience at Juventus and Real Madrid, he is ready to come to Chelsea and to play as striker for us."

Stop making noise. Wanting a young player at £20m to be a sub player for Juventus is an entirely different prospect to choosing your lead striker at Chelsea. Just like I can want Broja as sub striker for Chelsea, doesn't mean I will carry him to lead my line if I'm made Madrid manager.

Everything Conte said is normal encouragement that every manager gives his players. You don't expect him to come and start downing his players and killing their confidence. He has said what he wanted definitively and that's the end of story.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:09am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


How can any sane person put Cuntay and Pep in the same sentence? And you say bant aside. What else beside bant will make you put Cuntay into any comparison that involves Pep?

This Cuntay has never played a CL semi despite coaching Chelsea Juventus and Inter

Shoe get size Cuntay dey the same level with them Arteta, Moyes, Ranieri and Brendan Rodgers

There is no objective person that will not mention Pep Guardiola when discussing the greatest coaches of all time, Only a lunatic will put Cuntay in the discussion of greatest coaches of all time
Never compared the both, a condition and specific metric was attached to the question.

Do you think Pep can do with Spurs what Conte did? Honest question...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:10am On May 24, 2022
Ibime:


Stop making noise. Wanting a young player at £20m to be a sub player for Juventus is an entirely different prospect to choosing your lead striker at Chelsea. Just like I can want Broja as sub striker for Chelsea, doesn't mean I will carry him to lead my line if I'm made Madrid manager.

Everything Conte said is normal encouragement that every manager gives his players. You don't expect him to come and start downing his players and killing their confidence. He has said what he wanted definitively and that's the end of story.

The below was written before Cuntay even resumed at Chelsea and 1yr later he signed Morata. Was this also to encourage a player who was not in his team

The future of Álvaro Morata could be resolved this week. Or, at least, that’s what Antonio Conte would like. The next Chelsea manager, who will leave his post as Italy’s head coach after Euro 2016, has urged his new club to capture the young Spanish international’s signature before Spain kick off their Euro campaign against Czech Republic on Monday 13 June.

According to The Guardian, Conte – who was interested in signing the ex-Real Madrid man for Juventus before starting his tenure at the Azzuri – wants Chelsea to contract Morata directly from Juve before Real Madrid get chance to execute their buy-back option over the striker.

https://en.as.com/en/2016/06/07/soccer/1465295381_864840.html
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:11am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Never compared the both, a condition and specific metric was attached to the question.

Do you think Pep can do with Spurs what Conte did? Honest question...

What has Cuntay done with Spurs that Poch did not do more than? Where is that Poch now? How many CL has he won with Messi Neymar and Mbappe

This same Cuntay was given over a quarter of a billion in new player purchase in 1 season and finished 5th

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:15am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


Debunk which lie that Cuntay himself said he wanted Morata?

"I like his [Morata's] technique. Physically he is a good player and for sure I need to work with him to ask him what I want from his job in the game. Morata is a good finisher, he showed this in the past.

"I think he made a good step (over the last three years) and now he is one of the best strikers in Europe.

"He has great potential, he can improve a lot and last season didn't play a lot of games and scored 20 goals.

"I wanted him when I was at Juventus before I left, in that period he was very young but now with experience at Juventus and Real Madrid, he is ready to come to Chelsea and to play as striker for us."

He never stated that he was the one that initiated the move to sign him at Chelsea.

Emenalo even accepted that Conte was disappointed and had no choice than to move on. He knew the rigours of Epl, reason for the disappointment.

" Asked about Conte's disappointment in Chelsea's failure to sign top target Romelu Lukaku, eventually losing out to rivals Manchester United, Emenalo added: “As everybody knows in every walk of life, you develop an idea and you have a policy in mind and you have an intent, and if it doesn’t go the way you want, there is some level of disappointment."

Sensible people would ask why Emenalo said the emboldened below:

There are no ill feelings now, I think he’s moved on from that and he’s just focused on trying to get through what is a tough schedule and to try and find some rhythm with the team again.”

Were there ill feelings before? What did Conte move on from?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:17am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


What has Cuntay done with Spurs that Poch did not do more than? Where is that Poch now? How many CL has he won with Messi Neymar and Mbappe

This same Cuntay was given over a quarter of a billion in new player purchase in 1 season and finished 5th
There was a reason I asked for your objectivity earlier, but for obvious reasons, you don’t want to toll that route to avoid getting choked.

Pep is rated ahead of Conte, no doubt. But you’ll be telling yourself a big lie if you think Conte isn’t a good manager, a manager who can do the doubted with any team. A risk and gamble we know Pep can’t attempt. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:22am On May 24, 2022
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:23am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


The below was written before Cuntay even resumed at Chelsea and 1yr later he signed Morata. Was this also to encourage a player who was not in his team



This is just assumption and Conte subsequently regretted not getting Lukaku and VVD. Having played a season in Epl and knew the rigours, a spineless Morata could not have solved his problem, that's why he nearly resigned but for the clause in his contract that came with heavy fine.

Bring any Conte's comment confirming he initiated the Morata deal at Chelsea.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:25am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


The below was written before Cuntay even resumed at Chelsea and 1yr later he signed Morata. Was this also to encourage a player who was not in his team



Morata was £25m then and Costa was Chelsea number one striker so leave all the backup yarns. And guess what, Chelsea ended up paying £33m for Batsuayi instead as backup

Like saying Flick asked Bayern to sign Choupo Moting so Choupo-Moting must be his ideal striker

Opata yarns
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:29am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Lol. Aside Mou and Carlo, no manager should be the reason to slander Pep. cheesy


grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:33am On May 24, 2022
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:43am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Do you think Pep can do with Spurs what Conte did? Honest question...

I know Pep can never do what Conte did at Chelsea because he asked Roman for 10 new players to be competitive

If Pep managed Chelsea, we would be hearing now how Chalobah ended up in Watford, Baba Rahman in Reading, Moses in Spartak Moscow, Ivanovic in West Brom, Cahill in Crystal Palace, Batsuayi in Turkey and how Pedro was chased from Roma. . . .just like we hear about Clichy, Zabaleta and Sagna

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:48am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

There was a reason I asked for your objectivity earlier, but for obvious reasons, you don’t want to toll that route to avoid getting choked.

Pep is rated ahead of Conte, no doubt. But you’ll be telling yourself a big lie if you think Conte isn’t a good manager, a manager who can do the doubted with any team. A risk and gamble we know Pep can’t attempt. cheesy

Conte has been given money before and it ended in premium tears. He finished 5th

Anyone can be a good manager, Arteta is also a good manager he took Arsenal from 20th to 5th. Lampard is also a good manager he saved Everton from relegation

Good get size

All those coaches who hide under "If only I had this and that" They gave Cuntay money he flopped, Poch was given a star studded squad with Messi what did he do?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:52am On May 24, 2022
airmark:


This is just assumption and Conte subsequently regretted not getting Lukaku and VVD. Having played a season in Epl and knew the rigours, a spineless Morata could not have solved his problem, that's why he nearly resigned but for the clause in his contract that came with heavy fine.

Bring any Conte's comment confirming he initiated the Morata deal at Chelsea.

"I think he made a good step (over the last three years) and now he is one of the best strikers in Europe.

"He has great potential, he can improve a lot and last season didn't play a lot of games and scored 20 goals.

"I wanted him when I was at Juventus before I left, in that period he was very young but now with experience at Juventus and Real Madrid, he is ready to come to Chelsea and to play as striker for us."
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:55am On May 24, 2022
Ibime:


I know Pep can never do what Conte did at Chelsea because he asked Roman for 10 new players to be competitive

If Pep managed Chelsea, we would be hearing now how Chalobah ended up in Watford, Baba Rahman in Reading, Moses in Spartak Moscow, Ivanovic in West Brom, Cahill in Crystal Palace, Batsuayi in Turkey and how Pedro was chased from Roma. . . .just like we hear about Clichy, Zabaleta and Sagna
Raumd knows this, but he’ll keep dodging and deflecting.

While I acknowledge the fact that Pep is a world class manager, you’ll only, only and only be telling yourself a lie If you think Conte isn’t, aside Mou, one of the best 3 managers in the world when it comes to delivering with risky jobs.

Pep even said it himself that he would have been sacked in Chelsea if he had performed like he did in his ManCity debut season.

Imagine requesting for new 10 players. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 12:56am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


Conte has been given money before and it ended in premium tears. He finished 5th

Anyone can be a good manager, Arteta is also a good manager he took Arsenal from 20th to 5th. Lampard is also a good manager he saved Everton from relegation

Good get size
Lol. Conte never went trophyless with Chelsea, did he? Maybe I’ve forgotten
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:57am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Raumd knows this, but he’ll keep dodging and deflecting.

While I acknowledge the fact that Pep is a world class manager, you’ll only, only and only be telling yourself a lie If you think Conte isn’t, aside Mou, one of the best 3 managers in the world when it comes to delivering with risky jobs.

Pep even said it himself that he would have been sacked in Chelsea if he had performed like he did in his ManCity debut season.

Imagine requesting for new 10 players. grin

What gibberish is this? Delivering with risky jobs? Why not Allardyce or Moyes?

They gave Cuntay money at Chelsea 300M spent in 1 season he landed them in 5th position where he was surrendering before kickoff
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:57am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Lol. Conte never went trophyless with Chelsea, did he? Maybe I’ve forgotten

He finished 5th. Spending 300M a season to finish 5th in the league
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:00am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


What gibberish is this? Delivering with risky jobs? Why not Allardyce or Moyes?

They gave Cuntay money at Chelsea 300M spent in 1 season he landed them in 5th position where he was surrendering before kickoff
Why do you think Pep said he would have been sacked in Chelsea?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:01am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


He finished 5th. Spending 300M a season to finish 5th in the league
I think he’s the only manager in EPL not to go trophyless in his first two full seasons.

Any other manager? cheesy

I’m trying to remember....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:01am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Why do you think Pep said he would have been sacked in Chelsea?

Did he say that? Why would he be sacked? Maybe if he finished 5th like Cuntay he would be sacked

Anyone who spent 300M and finish 5th deserves more than sack
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:02am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

I think he’s the only manager in EPL not to go trophyless in his first two full seasons.

Any other manager? cheesy

I’m trying to remember....

He's the first manager to spend 300M to finish top 5

Do you remember another one cos I have been trying to since

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:02am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


He's the first manager to spend 300M to finish top 5

Do you remember another one cos I have been trying to since
Ole.... cheesy grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:03am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


Did he say that? Why would he be sacked? Maybe if he finished 5th like Cuntay he would be sacked

Anyone who spent 300M and finish 5th deserves more than sack
I stand to be corrected, did Pep say that or not..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:03am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Ole.... cheesy grin


You are now mentioning those in the same category with Cuntay, Don't forget Lampfraud too

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:05am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

I stand to be corrected, did Pep say that or not..

I don't know but anyone who spent 300M to finish 5th deserves sack don't you think so?

What do you think should happen to a coach that finish last in a CL group of
Madrid Mochengladbach and Shaktar Donetsk

or a coach who crash out of CL group stage to Galatasaray
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:07am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


You are now mentioning those in the same category with Cuntay, Don't forget Lampfraud too
I’ve answered yours, but you don’t want to answer mine.

Why?

You’re now cheating.... grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:10am On May 24, 2022
raumdeuter:


I don't know but anyone who spent 300M to finish 5th deserves sack don't you think so?

What do you think should happen to a coach that finish last in a CL group of
Madrid Mochengladbach and Shaktar Donetsk

or a coach who crash out of CL group stage to Galatasaray
Made Juve strong, left and Juve dominated, came back and snatched the league from them while making European finals.

Broke record of not going trophyless In his first 2 EPL seasons, something I doubt any manager has done aside Mou 2004/05/06... cheesy

Now picked Spurs from 9th and qualified for UCL.

Relax, Conte is a quality manager.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:10am On May 24, 2022
donstan18:

Made Juve strong, left and Juve dominated, came back and snatched the league from them while making European finals.

Broke record of not going trophyless In his first 2 EPL seasons, something I doubt any manager has done aside Mou 2004/05/06... cheesy

Now picked Spurs from 9th and qualified for UCL.

Relax, Conte is a quality manager.

What do you think should happen to a coach that finish last in a CL group of
Madrid Mochengladbach and Shaktar Donetsk

or a coach who crash out of CL group stage to Galatasaray

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