Pearl1910:


A state government cannot shut down an App.
Only Federal govt can stop d app/website from working in Nigeria.
They don't have an office to go n shut down their activities, even if they did, they can still close and leave the App working.
U can't tell riders not to use Indriver, or arrest them for patronizing a company "operating illegally"
So the only stakeholder LASG can lay their hands on are the drivers.
Like Felicity said, if they haven't blocked someone on Bolt and Uber, I don't think will have drivers to keep d app working.
It's d drivers that are keeping the app working.

Indriver wey be say na inside one street for phase 1 dem beg me to register that year, it is funny how table turn.

Na them dey torment everybody like dis.

northbird:


Seems the beamlight is on Indrive now,

Tbh, Indrive is damaging the eco system for ehailing. Ridiculous rates, Haba, how do you give riders so much power to determine prices arbitrarily in a city like Lagos.? There should be a threshold. ( riders shouldn't go below , maximum 10% of the recommended fare).

How can you allow riders to delete recommended fares, then give drivers options to accept a marginal increase of ₦100.

The reason is not far fetched, they haven't paid anything to LASG, that's why, if they paid registration in millions to LASG, nobody will teach them on how to stop displaying stupid fares.

Though, there should be a proper channel through which LASG can achieve this, not through this agbero strategy, that aprroach is really lame (with all the pacesetter status of the state) if it's coming from LASG.

Someday on a good day... maybe I am the only one that is yet to see where Indriver is giving the rediculous price. Saturday was a failed evening for me cos I was trying to catch up. I picked a rider 2400 from Ogba to Magodo phase 2. When she mentioned Bolt was giving her 4k, my head ring. Normally 2400 is not bad, maybe the mad surge, so I start giving them high price, I didn't get one single trip. I got so mad on Sunday I have to do 22k on Indriver and putting that together is like doing 30k on Bolt with their 27% commission. My first trip to island on Monday was 6500 within 2hrs. Yea! Drivers can be problem on Indriver and mostly is the let me use it to reposition and I just want to leave the mainland guys. Las Las we should focus on our weekly net, not the means per say.

Pearl1910:


A state government cannot shut down an App.
Only Federal govt can stop d app/website from working in Nigeria.
They don't have an office to go n shut down their activities, even if they did, they can still close and leave the App working.
U can't tell riders not to use Indriver, or arrest them for patronizing a company "operating illegally"
So the only stakeholder LASG can lay their hands on are the drivers.
It's d drivers that are keeping the app working.

You are right about that, drivers sustain the life force of the app, I know LASG can't do much.

But come to think of it, LASG haven't rolled out those their LAGRIDE, are they taking a cue from Moove?

Felicity001:


You dey talk 2019/2020 wey dey backyard here? Most of them have been there since way back 2014/2015 with capital all tied down... That one no be business at all

This is the part I don't understand. Is it not better to sell the car at a loss and preserve the value of the money than leaving it there for years while the value keeps dropping daily

E.g. If I import a car in 2019 for 3m, I'm better off selling it for 2.8m in 2019 than selling it for 3.2m in 2022

northbird:


You are right about that, drivers sustain the life force of the app, I know LASG can't do much.

But come to think of it, LASG haven't rolled out those their LAGRIDE, are they taking a cue from Moove?

LagRide ke... I saw a woman driving the jeep to church one Sunday with her family. In my mind, I'm like they have share this cars already.

confusedworld17:


Can you please tell my friend who wants to join the biz, roughly how many hours a day and how many days a week he has to put in on the average to make 240k a month as income ? He wants to know if nah wetin he fit do or not.

Tell your friend to read this and put it at the back of his/her mind.

240k is not feasible on this e-hailing….

The only guaranteed money you can make if you’re a car owner is 90k a month week in week out.

Your car is the tools and must always stay healthy for every time your friend use it.

20-25k is guarantee every week (if your car didn’t give you a problem)

Tell him to forget whatever earnings anybody posted that’s just a e-money is not raw cash.

If your friend over stress that car, he might probably come and be begging for loans tell him let him understand the logics. Everything is different now.

confusedworld17:


Can you please tell my friend who wants to join the biz, roughly how many hours a day and how many days a week he has to put in on the average to make 240k a month as income ? He wants to know if nah wetin he fit do or not.

Boss you've been in this game before me, don't you think your friend and I should come for lecture.

Pearl1910:


Lolz...agreed but note that the price of that car will no longer b 1.1m in 8months. Before u balance with car bought and no loan on ur head again e fit reach 18months on d job. What's now d difference between u and someone that got a HP for 18-24months?

The difference is guarantee.
Only on HP is d ball in ur court. Owner cannot collect car, if u r paying his money.
On rentals owner can collect his car and give his brother or friend at anytime, even if u r paying more and doing repairs and maintainance for him.

I just see HP as a loan u have to and must pay back. But where will u see loan of 2m without them asking for heaven and Earth.

So if someone should buy corolla 2.8 million and give it to you at 3.5 to 4 million, you can use 2 years to pay back?

pope191:


LagRide ke... I saw a woman driving the jeep to church one Sunday with her family. In my mind, I'm like they have share this cars already.

Knew that's what they would do eventually? Share for political cronies.

There are no good roads in Lagos for those kind of cars.

Felicity001:
Nice post by ghost1994 n donforuntes48

I have said it and will keep saying it, since Indriver came onboard Bolt and Uber became a shadow of themselves.

Indriver is not the kind of competition needed in Nigeria ehailing system.

Mind you comrades, b4 indriver started charging and Uber/Bolt has been having a stiff competition about their price increase... Shebi it was N10/min at some point and Uber was N11/min and N65/km while Uber was N67/km but now its about 70+/km or thereabouts.

Remember when fuel was increased we and one of jpworld 's last comment on this thread was that the partial increment by Uber/Bolt commensarate the increase of pump price from N145 to N165 or thereabouts... I wonder if that guy is still in business now self... I'd really like to know but that's by the way tho.

So indriver is the killer to ehailing business and if Bolt and Uber don't find a strategy to take this guys off I'm afraid the business will die in a matter of years to come, because drivers who are the frontiers are not making any profit anymore it's only a matter of time b4 many drivers start realising this.

How do you expect Bolt/Uber to increase price when another app is ready to take that same trip for far less? Take for instance I was at lekki gardens axis yesterday and I was just looking at prices on Indriver...

Sangotedo to far Int'L Airport, Ayobo, Alagbado where picked for 4, 5k the highest offer I saw was 5.5k and these offers didn't last 5secs and never came back again unlike b4 you'll see them come up again if you don't getrit forget about it

Bolt and Uber as well contributed to indriver gaining ground because how in heaven sake would you block a driver who has completed over 2000 trips in less than 8months and all they can say is cancellation and rating... That's nonsense!!!

This left a lot of drivers with no other choice than jump ship because they've to make ends meet and it tied them to what they call freedom, no completion rate, no cancellation rate, no acceptance rate, nothing.

Even bolanle like better thing

What I think Uber/Bolt should start from to push indriver to the edge is for them to first change their policy of blocking drivers, then unblocked all drivers and give them a bumber bonus to come back onboard, then start introducing surge especially on Mondays, Fridays and week ends. Me I don't belong to the school of thought that it's absence of drivers that make up surge... These things can be manipulated.

Doing this will send a signal to indriver as well to increase their own price to stastoscope.

The most annoying one is the festive period, the other time I said out of about 9trips I completed in December period only 2 where surge and the surge was not even up to 1.9x but pearl1910 argued it's not possible. I just ignored...thank God he's a veteran in the job, can he compare his last December earnings to previous once? The margin will shock anyone.

Indriver is to blame not just the system because Uber/Bolt can't hike price just like that otherwise riders will dump their app and go to a cheaper one where they know even traffic won't change the price

I don't have much to say concerning this indriver of an app, all I know is, drivers should realize they have more power over this apps.

Drivers are the core reason they are still existing, if we all delete that useless app and riders don't see drivers on the app, riders will fall back to Bolt and Uber.

Its time we realize we control this market and without the drivers these apps are just useless.


Anyway, I personally don't accept ridiculous fare on the app, maybe the ridiculous fare pays the drivers that accepts it.

Felicity001:
Nice post by ghost1994 n donforuntes48

I have said it and will keep saying it, since Indriver came onboard Bolt and Uber became a shadow of themselves.

Indriver is not the kind of competition needed in Nigeria ehailing system.

Mind you comrades, b4 indriver started charging and Uber/Bolt has been having a stiff competition about their price increase... Shebi it was N10/min at some point and Uber was N11/min and N65/km while Uber was N67/km but now its about 70+/km or thereabouts.

Remember when fuel was increased we and one of jpworld 's last comment on this thread was that the partial increment by Uber/Bolt commensarate the increase of pump price from N145 to N165 or thereabouts... I wonder if that guy is still in business now self... I'd really like to know but that's by the way tho.

So indriver is the killer to ehailing business and if Bolt and Uber don't find a strategy to take this guys off I'm afraid the business will die in a matter of years to come, because drivers who are the frontiers are not making any profit anymore it's only a matter of time b4 many drivers start realising this.

How do you expect Bolt/Uber to increase price when another app is ready to take that same trip for far less? Take for instance I was at lekki gardens axis yesterday and I was just looking at prices on Indriver...

Sangotedo to far Int'L Airport, Ayobo, Alagbado where picked for 4, 5k the highest offer I saw was 5.5k and these offers didn't last 5secs and never came back again unlike b4 you'll see them come up again if you don't getrit forget about it

Bolt and Uber as well contributed to indriver gaining ground because how in heaven sake would you block a driver who has completed over 2000 trips in less than 8months and all they can say is cancellation and rating... That's nonsense!!!

This left a lot of drivers with no other choice than jump ship because they've to make ends meet and it tied them to what they call freedom, no completion rate, no cancellation rate, no acceptance rate, nothing.

Even bolanle like better thing

What I think Uber/Bolt should start from to push indriver to the edge is for them to first change their policy of blocking drivers, then unblocked all drivers and give them a bumber bonus to come back onboard, then start introducing surge especially on Mondays, Fridays and week ends. Me I don't belong to the school of thought that it's absence of drivers that make up surge... These things can be manipulated.

Doing this will send a signal to indriver as well to increase their own price to stastoscope.

The most annoying one is the festive period, the other time I said out of about 9trips I completed in December period only 2 where surge and the surge was not even up to 1.9x but pearl1910 argued it's not possible. I just ignored...thank God he's a veteran in the job, can he compare his last December earnings to previous once? The margin will shock anyone.

Indriver is to blame not just the system because Uber/Bolt can't hike price just like that otherwise riders will dump their app and go to a cheaper one where they know even traffic won't change the price

InDriver dropped their prices in order to undercut Bolt promo prices...only they cannot afford to offer promo to riders so their own promo comes out of the driver's pocket

Shebi they want freedom from cancellation rate and completion rate...there is price to pay for every freedom in this life

Some riders sef doesn't have conscience, check out this screenshot.

A trip that's not less than 4500 on bolt, you're offering 1300 for it.
Imagine that.

donfortune48:
2019 when I started Uber, dollar was #320.
2022 dollar is nor 610.

2019 drivers make an average of 10k after commission and fuel.
2022 drivers make an average of 10k after commission and fuel.

10k in 2019 is about 31_dollars.
10k in 2022 is about 16_dollars.

2019 corrola was around 1. 5m
2022 corrola is around 3m.

From all these, you can see the inflation is over 100%, while drivers earning has 0% increase.

If you like, keep listening to Pearl1910 and see Uber as your lifetime career, as your dream Job. Keep moving Lagos up and down as if your destiny is embedded in it, without having an exit plan.

Your eye go clear one day.

Educate yourself man. Go and check what happened to import duties first

73O9:


You are wrong with your assertion.

Keep your eyes open for signs while driving and you shall pay no one.
Your experience with driving in lagos will also determine how you pay.

Many of the drivers never had experience driving on lagos before taking up uber driving hence why a lot of you would say you must pay fines.

I haven't paid anyone since 2018 I have been driving on the platforms.

how have you been doing it. I am currently at akinpelu police station at bolade oshodi. Dem say I pass one way..no sign at all to signify that it is a one way road. The extortion in this driving thing is just crazy

northbird:


You are right about that, drivers sustain the life force of the app, I know LASG can't do much.

But come to think of it, LASG haven't rolled out those their LAGRIDE, are they taking a cue from Moove?

LagRide that I have seen big men and women driving to work and carrying children to school. They just shared that thing to senior civil servants, who will want to pay 9m for that car on HP?
Just like they shared Lagos homes, anything government is paddy paddy. And they will not even pay d money finish, next government will come and fashy d thing

kanuisagoat:


This is the part I don't understand. Is it not better to sell the car at a loss and preserve the value of the money than leaving it there for years while the value keeps dropping daily

E.g. If I import a car in 2019 for 3m, I'm better off selling it for 2.8m in 2019 than selling it for 3.2m in 2022

Lolz...and when u collect the loss money what will u use it and do?
To them that the only business they know, it's better for the car to be appreciating in current value in their lot than to sell at a loss. Na una they calculate inflation and cost if living. To an average business man that didn't go to school if his goods will not spoil in d store he is ready to live it their to appreciate before selling.
To him all na profit.

So to him if he bought a Corolla 1.5m in 2019 to sell 1.6 or 1.7m. isn't it better to leave it for 3yrs and have the car more than double it's value in 2022? Instead of selling at a loss let the car be there, it's not a perishable goods.

pope191:


LagRide ke... I saw a woman driving the jeep to church one Sunday with her family. In my mind, I'm like they have share this cars already.

Ohooo...u sef the see am abi

pope191:


So if someone should buy corolla 2.8 million and give it to you at 3.5 to 4 million, you can use 2 years to pay back?

Offcourse yes.
35k for 100weeks is 3.5m already.
That's chicken feed

pope191:


My and you on the same page? Pearl be careful! And you have started again, you are the one saying I am day dreaming now.

Well! I will never support HP, for me HP is if the owner of the car wants it to work for you, else unforeseen circumstances will frustrate the living hell out of the driver. Ghost1994 said something about getting a Honda civic 07 for 1.1m, hope I am right. I'll prefer a rental as long as I can save like 100k monthly, in 8 months I should b able to draft something good with loan of around 400k from friends and family to pick another start. That loan can be clear within the space of 3 months for a driver that knows what he or she is doing.

No wonder pearl called you a day dreamer no b me talk am o na Pearl so don't come for my throat if not my wheel spiner dey my hand oo

8 months on rental straight inside life? Have you forgotten you can't please human? Everybody in Nigeria are either going through one or two challenges partner might just wake up from the wrong side of the bed and ask you to drop his/her car, what then will happen to your savings? Add up or reduced??

How many people have 100k to borrow someone these days, let alone 400k? Guy if you have abeg come borrow me only 50k I need am badly abeg there's a 08 civic out for sell for just 500k with bad engine make I use buy the car

pope191:


Boss you've been in this game before me, don't you think your friend and I should come for lecture.

Well, I thought you should let whoever that is reading to know more about making that amount.
The reader could say “ah, that one Na moimoi “

northbird:


Knew that's what they would do eventually? Share for political cronies.

There are no good roads in Lagos for those kind of cars.

Well it's a plus plus tho... it is the gold suzuki tormenting all island now and those guys can drive rough for Africa.

Olayetan:




I don't have much to say concerning this indriver of an app, all I know is, drivers should realize they have more power over this apps.

Drivers are the core reason they are still existing, if we all delete that useless app and riders don't see drivers on the app, riders will fall back to Bolt and Uber.

Its time we realize we control this market and without the drivers these apps are just useless.


Anyway, I personally don't accept ridiculous fare on the app, maybe the ridiculous fare pays the drivers that accepts it.

I'll be so happy if drivers can follow your advice.

Duplik8t77:
how have you been doing it. I am currently at akinpelu police station at bolade oshodi. Dem say I pass one way..no sign at all to signify that it is a one way road. The extortion in this driving thing is just crazy

You should have made a video immediately you were arrested to prove that there was no one way signage there. The little things we overlook can make big differences

Pearl1910:


LagRide that I have seen big men and women driving to work and carrying children to school. They just shared that thing to senior civil servants, who will want to pay 9m for that car on HP?
Just like they shared Lagos homes, anything government is paddy paddy. And they will not even pay d money finish, next government will come and fashy d thing

Before you know it they will repaint the cars. The end. Next?

deedee44:

You should have made a video immediately you were arrested to prove that there was no one way signage there. The little things we overlook can make big differences

I will definitely put this to action next time. Thanks alot boss. I just started this work last week and I swear these guys are frustrating me. I don pay up to 20k to extortion. And most are not even my fault

Felicity001:


No wonder pearl called you a day dreamer no b me talk am o na Pearl so don't come for my throat if not my wheel spiner dey my hand oo

8 months on rental straight inside life? Have you forgotten you can't please human? Everybody in Nigeria are either going through one or two challenges partner might just wake up from the wrong side of the bed and ask you to drop his/her car, what then will happen to your savings? Add up or reduced??

How many people have 100k to borrow someone these days, let alone 400k? Guy if you have abeg come borrow me only 50k I need am badly abeg there's a 08 civic out for sell for just 500k with bad engine make I use buy the car

Bros how far the civic with bad engine... I have interest

Olayetan:
Some riders sef doesn't have conscience, check out this screenshot.

A trip that's not less than 4500 on bolt, you're offering 1300 for it.
Imagine that.

Bros this thing you see is glitch or the rider is stupid. On a normal good day from Opebi on indriver that trip is 4k. Remove 10% from 4k and 27% from 4500 naira, let us see the difference. I'll share few of the trips I have done these past days. How bad are the trips? Create a niche and formula that works for you and you will be fine. I no be pearl1910, I talk and do. Even the V.I end at 6500 as rider need to do another thing in Ikoyi, abeg what's the distance from Adeola Odeku to falomo? I don't go to Yaba below 2500 and it must be on a very free road less than 1 hr. We have done both apps before. When they were still fixing third mainland, I've done phase one to Surelere 2700 on Bolt with surge for 3 hours, I want to cry that day.

Pearl1910:


Ohooo...u sef the see am abi

I have seen couple, maybe the want to test drive it before putting it out

Ghost1994:


Tell your friend to read this and put it at the back of his/her mind.

240k is not feasible on this e-hailing….

The only guaranteed money you can make if you’re a car owner is 90k a month week in week out.

Your car is the tools and must always stay healthy for every time your friend use it.

20-25k is guarantee every week (if your car didn’t give you a problem)

Tell him to forget whatever earnings anybody posted that’s just a e-money is not raw cash.

If your friend over stress that car, he might probably come and be begging for loans tell him let him understand the logics. Everything is different now.

This is if he wants to give d car to a driver and collect rentals.

Pearl1910:


Offcourse yes.
35k for 100weeks is 3.5m already.
That's chicken feed

In 2 years what you will have is 3.360 and still need a month to cover 3.5. I don't understand your 100 weeks. But you and I know it will be hard to see anyone that will spend 3m on car to put it out for 3.5 so give and take the driver is looking at 26 months. Pearl 26 months of driving without default it is in the hand of the owner, if you meet the one waiting for you at the receiving end, you will understand better.

I recommend this my BROTHER @Halabizi boss he's a victim of a bad 9ja used car for hp he just forfeited over 500k remittance due to the condition of the car and some shady agreement. He is young and hard working and well-behaved , he introduced this hustle to me just painful his HP deal turned out this way but no time to regret shit we move on to the next thing as fast as possible Pls I recommend him for your peace of mind either rentals or HP

Donsaxxx:
Please who knows best Pontiac vibes model for Uber business. Is 2003 model ok? Is it ok to get a trusted driver who delivers daily or hire purchase is the best for the business. Thanks.

Felicity001:


No wonder pearl called you a day dreamer no b me talk am o na Pearl so don't come for my throat if not my wheel spiner dey my hand oo

8 months on rental straight inside life? Have you forgotten you can't please human? Everybody in Nigeria are either going through one or two challenges partner might just wake up from the wrong side of the bed and ask you to drop his/her car, what then will happen to your savings? Add up or reduced??

How many people have 100k to borrow someone these days, let alone 400k? Guy if you have abeg come borrow me only 50k I need am badly abeg there's a 08 civic out for sell for just 500k with bad engine make I use buy the car

You no be mechanic, you carry spinner dey waka with natural dread and come like good things like Benz. Who no know say this one good, that one good nah em they man get excess load continue! they no deh tell Steve wonder say rain they fall nah. We can only pray for mercy and turn around. In peace

So 8 months is not easy, but 24 months as pearls talk easy? Ask some guys on rental if they have not been able to pay 25k to their owners in 8 months without default. Let's experiment these things than just throwing words.

And about money, abeg how many weeks apc take raise 2.1 billion? I'll advice you change your circle or you start doing good, because it pays to be good. Not boosting, God has been faithful. I no say better human scare, but inside the bad ones, we still meet the good ones. I repeat again change your circle.

If the civic still have 1st body, good transmission, good underneath and suspension. Load the pix and get your money today.