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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kingBolton: 8:42pm On May 25, 2022
donjazet:


I fail to fall into the mindless hopelessness of our politics. I choose to believe that there is still a glimmer of hope. Enough can happen within a year to shift the balance of power in Nigeria.

It took only TWO YEARS after the formation of APC for them to take power from the PDP who people said was invincible. I independently campaigned vigorously for them then, I was ecstatic when they won, thinking there will be change, it didn't work out. Now we go again.
But APC then had structures, we had sitting governors in the formation of APC then, not to forget buhari with his cult like followership from the North.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Oasis007(m): 8:53pm On May 25, 2022
Unlimited22:
Check the average age of a typical Nigerian. The number of Nigerians with access to smartphones and the internet. The number with access to television and radio.

Then you'll understand that all this 'grassroots' and 'social media doesn't win' talks are simply euphemisms for moneybag politics, for the fact that a lot of people simply do not care about progress as long as they're well fed.

Every other talking point about voters is a fugazi. Those underrating the power of SM should please take a look at the Arab Spring and, closer to home, the Endsars protests.

grin

How did it end? Real Nigeria happened to it. We had great opportunity to form a youth Party. Real 3rd Force to retire the Oldies, but we fail to utilise it.

At a point, it seemed the dream will come to reality, until Falz and that hijabite Woman Posters started flying on Twitter as President and Vice President.

Rinu also was being promoted as possibly Senate President..... LMFAO. How on Earth Falz is considered ready to lead a Country as Nigeria? With what Experience or Knowledge?

Davido quickly joined the Train, to perhaps become Chief of Staff or Speaker.... LMFAO.

Let's be realistic..... we are not ready to change this Country for better. FG banned Twitter for months and nothing happens. We can't weaponize it again to fight for any fuckin right..... that's the clear Message.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 8:54pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


When Peter Obi heard the dollar amount delegates were asking for he gave himself brain

If you dey near Abuja this weekend your life don better. Most likely na $200k per delegate go settle this matter

Baba don see how delegates dey chop money clean mouth grin

Make Pandora money no go finish cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 8:55pm On May 25, 2022
Oasis007:


grin

How did it end? Real Nigeria happened to it. We had great opportunity to form a youth Party. Real 3rd Force to retire the Oldies, but we fail to utilise it.

At a point, it seemed the dream will come to reality, until Falz and that hijabite Woman Posters started flying on Twitter as President and Vice President.

Rinu also was being promoted as possibly Senate President..... LMFAO. How on Earth Falz is considered ready to lead a Country as Nigeria? With what Experience or Knowledge?

Davido quickly joined the Train, to perhaps become Chief of Staff or Speaker.... LMFAO.

Let's be realistic..... we are not ready to change this Country for better. FG banned Twitter for months and nothing happens. We can't weaponize it again to fight for any fuckin right..... that's the clear Message.
I no get energy to begin tackle the inconsistencies wey dey here.


But I love how you singled this out of everything I wrote and still missed my point.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Oasis007(m): 8:56pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


When Peter Obi heard the dollar amount delegates were asking for he gave himself brain

If you dey near Abuja this weekend your life don better. Most likely na $200k per delegate go settle this matter

cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Oasis007(m): 8:58pm On May 25, 2022
Unlimited22:

I no get energy to begin tackle the inconsistencies wey dey here.


But I love how you singled this out of everything I wrote and still missed my point.

grin

No Qualms..... me sef no get energy. Sorry for missing your point though, it pains me small sha.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 8:58pm On May 25, 2022
donjazet:


Seriously what the hell is wrong with you guys?? Like what the hell is REALLY wrong with you guys??

It is a known fact that across all social media platforms, Peter obi has the most organic (non-paid) supporters. The majority of youths support him.

Do you know why? IDEALISM! Every single person knows that Peter obi did not have the ground game for this national ticket, because he is not one to steal public funds and use as the rest are doing.
What his supporters aimed to do was recreate the national awareness across all platforms, from Whatsapp status to Twitter to Facebook, Instagram etc.. just as exactly was done during the endsars protest.

An organic movement that transforms from the digital space to our reality. You could see me as one individual urging us to go and register to get our PVC.

Peter obi is not a saint but he was certainly the best of the rest. An experienced leader, astute in communication, well rounded in leadership, economically astute and most importantly possessed the frugality desperately needed right now for government officials. Someone that has been in the system but NOT in the system.

CANT YOU SEE? Just look at us, casually laughing away our future, making jest of how our politicians are looting and spreading our common wealth amongst themselves. See us laughing over politicians sharing 5 million naira per head, money we know, they will aim to recoup when they win and that CYCLE OF ENDEMIC CORRUPTION CONTINUES.

We need something to give us hope, we can't just give in to the despair and hopelessness of our country not getting better.

Who knows, if we rally very well, we might just come together and vote en masse for that strong third party and fade away these 2 evil parties. It seems like a pipe dream but we the youths have the numbers to do that. Less than 15 percent of the population voted in the last election. Let's bump that number up to 45% and see the magic that happens.

Donj is in pains

What I just want to say is, if you think any nonsense third force party will take over power then you've not been following Naija politics

Majority of those championing the cause on social media don't vote. On election day, they will be here and on twitter from the comfort of their bedroom doing like for A and share for B

The real people who vote only know two parties. APC or PDP, any other is a waste of time

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:01pm On May 25, 2022
Unlimited22:

I no get energy to begin tackle the inconsistencies wey dey here.


But I love how you singled this out of everything I wrote and still missed my point.

It's almost as if they are celebrating the status quo. Like they are very much okay with the current ruling class and cannot dare to see beyond this. It's mind boggling indeed.

I don't want to think anybody here really supports Tinubu or Atiku or wike. These are all confirmed thieves. National looters, corrupt entities. People who will only continue to work for the elite and corrupt class in the country.
We are still at that stage where we can hope for the very best. Not continue to stick up for this corrupt lot.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:03pm On May 25, 2022
donjazet:


It's almost as if they are celebrating the status quo. Like they are very much okay with the current ruling class and cannot dare to see beyond this. It's mind boggling indeed.

I don't want to think anybody here really supports Tinubu or Atiku or wike. These are all confirmed thieves. National looters, corrupt entities. People who will only continue to work for the elite and corrupt class in the country.
We are still at that stage where we can hope for the very best. Not continue to stick up for this corrupt lot.

I don't think it's too late.

Peter Obi should form a new party and let us all vote him. I would personally vote him and show you proof.

Let's see if he would win that way, since other parties and their structures are corrupt
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:06pm On May 25, 2022
Donjazet do you want to face reality of be idealistic?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:07pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


Donj is in pains

What I just want to say is, if you think any nonsense third force party will take over power then you've not been following Naija politics

Majority of those championing the cause on social media don't vote On election day, they will be here and on twitter from the comfort of their bedroom doing like for A and share for B

The real people who vote only know two parties. APC or PDP, any other is a waste of time


That's why we're trying to change that.
Nigeria is in this situation because our democracy is still relatively new. Many of our parents are apathetic to voting because they grew up with military dictatorships so they couldn't teach their Children what they didn't know or do.

But we can change that!! Many of our parents now are on WhatsApp or at least listen to the news and the news reports what goes on online.

We the youths need to organize strongly.
I marched for peter obi last week Saturday and it was a thrilling experience. Nobody paid me or anyone there. We just saw the places we were to meet up on Twitter and we were not too much but it was nice making new friends who were passionate about the direction of Nigeria.

LET US GET INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. I have my PVC ready, do you??
You that is social media savvy, have you registered to vote?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:07pm On May 25, 2022
Unlimited22:
Check the average age of a typical Nigerian. The number of Nigerians with access to smartphones and the internet. The number with access to television and radio.

Then you'll understand that all this 'grassroots' and 'social media doesn't win' talks are simply euphemisms for moneybag politics, for the fact that a lot of people simply do not care about progress as long as they're well fed

Every other talking point about voters is a fugazi. Those underrating the power of SM should please take a look at the Arab Spring and, closer to home, the Endsars protests.

lol

This is written like who assumes majority of people in States like Jigawa, Kebbi, Gombe etc actually have access to Twitter, nairaland etc and form their political opinions from those platforms .

I can bet u that if a state like Zamfara has 3 million eligible voters , less than 30% of them are on any of the aforementioned platforms reading political debates and arguments to shape their electoral decisions . Some local governments do not even have electricity even here in the southwest . You need to go to places like Ijebu waterside in Ogun state , go to some innermost part of Oyo state ( I’m sure almost all states have places like this) …/ You will understand that not having a political structure built and nurtured over time will continue to cost people like obi and other third force advocates.

You may not agree for the purpose of this discussion but it is what it is .

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 9:08pm On May 25, 2022
donjazet:


It's almost as if they are celebrating the status quo. Like they are very much okay with the current ruling class and cannot dare to see beyond this. It's mind boggling indeed.

I don't want to think anybody here really supports Tinubu or Atiku or wike. These are all confirmed thieves. National looters, corrupt entities. People who will only continue to work for the elite and corrupt class in the country.
We are still at that stage where we can hope for the very best. Not continue to stick up for this corrupt lot.

I support Wike wholeheartedly. I'm tired of the insecurity in the nation, I'm tired of of killings everyday. The only person who has the most capacity to solve insecurity is Wike.

He is fearless, ruthless and does not mind if he steps on toes to do it. If he steals money while at it, so be it.

I'll be at peace with the fact that farmers can now go to their farmland in the North and Hausas can walk freely in the East without fear of being killed

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 9:09pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


I support Wike wholeheartedly. I'm tired of the insecurity in the nation, I'm tired of of killings everyday. The only person who has the most capacity to solve insecurity is Wike.

He is fearless, ruthless and does not mind if he steps on toes to do it. If he steals money while at it, so be it.

I'll be at peace with the fact that farmers can now go to their farmland in the North and Hausas can now walk freely in the East without fear of being killed
Do you live in Rivers State?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:12pm On May 25, 2022
It we want to talk plenty things and not face the reality on ground, lets continue to deceive ourselves and think twiteratti matters

I think Obi made an irrational decision to leave PDP because that might be the end of his dream to become anything in Nigerian politics

He left APGA, left PDP where will he go next? He doesnt have the money of Tinubu or Atiku to buy himself into a major party

And take note this is a 2 party system. America with over 300yrs democracy has not been able to do anything about this 2 party politics for centuries

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:12pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:
Donjazet do you want to face reality of be idealistic?

I want to transform my idealism into realism.
I don't "fan" people as such. I don't revere Peter obi but I know that he's the best among the rest. He is not as crooked as the rest, not as shameless in theft as the rest, an astute communicator and economy brainaic. I prefer him to the rest and I would put effort towards that. I am ready to even donate when the time came because I know he's not the looting type and I wish him not to be.

That's working ideals into reality.


Now I ask you dayo, who is your preferred candidate and why?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EmmanuelScott1(m): 9:12pm On May 25, 2022
Time to Vote for candidate of your choice not party, PDP and APC re the same and their delegates will Recycle the same corrupt men for us.

PO cool cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:15pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


When Peter Obi heard the dollar amount delegates were asking for he gave himself brain

If you dey near Abuja this weekend your life don better. Most likely na $200k per delegate go settle this matter

Hahahaha. Obi know say him money no long like that. Delegate settlement no go pass $12k, but dem go collect some $ks from like 5 or 6 candidate plus small change from the small boys like Pius Anyim etc. Delegates plenty to settle.

Atiku and Wike go reach $8k-$12k

Saraki go reach $8k if he has a chance, if not he go drop out at $5k

Everybody else will drop out at $1k to $3k, then the small boys will drop like $500 to mark register. Udom suppose hit $3k before realising his chances are slim.

If Kwankwaso still dey, he would be sure to hit $3k like last time

Delegates go collect like $30k total.

Saraki has a chance cos he's got friends among the main power players in most states and they instruct their delegates how to vote regardless of the egunje on offer. Saraki has no enemies in PDP while Wike has plenty, but the states Wike wins, he will collect all the delegates, while Saraki will collect a portion from every state except Rivers, Katsina and AkwaIbom. Atiku is lazy but has money to buy the whole ticket. Saraki is actually politicking well, collecting small favour from almost every state and big numbers from Kano. Also Saraki is used to working with the whole country as former speaker.

I still favour Atiku slightly but Wike and Saraki have a very good chance. As the night progress sha, the winner will be clear.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kingBolton: 9:15pm On May 25, 2022
Android22:
Of course, that was his point. To show his political weight so that whoever becomes the main presidential candidate, *coughs* Atiku *coughs* will select him as the VP.
Exactly..
And I think this his current move takes him further away from the presidency. Which party can win the presidency for him that he can join now?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 9:15pm On May 25, 2022
Unlimited22:

Do you live in Rivers State?

Yes, why?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:17pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


I support Wike wholeheartedly. I'm tired of the insecurity in the nation, I'm tired of of killings everyday. The only person who has the most capacity to solve insecurity is Wike.

He is fearless, ruthless and does not mind if he steps on toes to do it. If he steals money while at it, so be it.

I'll be at peace with the fact that farmers can now go to their farmland in the North and Hausas can walk freely in the East without fear of being killed

Security?? Surely you didn't say that. grin

Rivers state that has the highest number of cultists in Nigeria? Rivers state where for 2 years, it's citizens put themselves on lockdown from night time because of area boys?

Rivera state that has the highest number of politicians killed by their rivals?

Wike would be worse than anybody because the worst kind of leader you can have is one who has no fear of even his subjects. He will be a tyrant worse than abacha. Just look at how he has converted rivers state Treasury to his personal wallet. The highest payed state in Nigeria.

Wike is a terrible Human being and leader.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:18pm On May 25, 2022
donjazet:


I want to transform my idealism into realism.
I don't "fan" people as such. I don't revere Peter obi but I know that he's the best among the rest. He is not as crooked as the rest, not as shameless in theft as the rest, an astute communicator and economy brainaic. I prefer him to the rest and I would put effort towards that. I am ready to even donate when the time came because I know he's not the looting type and I wish him not to be.

That's working ideals into reality.


Now I ask you dayo, who is your preferred candidate and why?

No matter how brainy you are we practically copied the American system which only allows 2 party to thrive. How will you achieve this

I have a personal friend who relocated from America to Nigeria around 2007. He has been active in Nigerian politics for the past 10yrs and he never get any post
And like 2hrs ago when the news of Peter Obi broke out he sent a message to me that shows that all we do online is a waste of time

For you to win any election in Nigeria you have to be physically present for 4yrs before elections and spending heavily on a daily basis to have a chance

I have few friends who have tried House of Rep before and we know how it ended.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 9:21pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


Yes, why?
It's a bit difficult to believe that you live here chief, especially when you talk about insecurity and Wike.


Do you have any parent or family member who's retired from Rivers state Civil service since 2015?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:24pm On May 25, 2022
Ibime:


Hahahaha. Obi know say him money no long like that. Delegate settlement no go pass $12k, but dem go collect some $ks from like 5 or 6 candidate plus small change from the small boys like Pius Anyim etc. Delegates plenty to settle.

Atiku and Wike go reach $8k-$12k

Saraki go reach $8k if he has a chance, if not he go drop out at $5k

Everybody else will drop out at $1k to $3k, then the small boys will drop like $500 to mark register

If Kwankwaso still dey, he is sure to hit $3k like last time

Delegates go collect like $30k total.

Saraki has a chance cos he's got friends among the main power players in many states and they instruct their delegates how to vote regardless of the egunje on offer. Saraki has no enemies in PDP while Wike has plenty. Atiku is lazy but has money to buy the whole ticket. Saraki is actually politicking well, collecting small favour from almost every state and big numbers from Kano

I still favour Atiku slightly but Wike and Saraki have a very good chance. As the night progress sha, the winner will be clear.

There was one video circulating on SM in Hausa about how they were sharing money in bags for PDP delagtes in a Northern state. The video was in Hausa and that was for either HOR or Assembly delegate o. If you see the size of the money in that bag


In 2015 we heard Atiku was sharing $5k and Tinubu bitchslapped him with $7k per delegate to get Buhari the ticket
In 2019, we heard that Atiku $10K per delegate was what won the ticket when dem Saraki were doing $5k each

This is 2023 with Putin inflation, rising prices and now theyve reduced the number of delegates so a delegate vote of 2023 is like 2.5 of 2019

Also 2019 was a long shot at removing a very popular brand like Buhari, 2023 is a more realistic chance of actually becoming president. This is the last hurrah for people like Atiku and Tinubu. They will probably be too old for 2027

If you are a delegate and anyone offer you less than $20K return am. Sir Larride will double it.

Have you seen Atiku travelling round the states like Tinubu, Osinbajo, Wike etc? Baba has been at this game for over 30yrs contesting for presidency

He knows all the moise on twitter na dollar go solve am

I heard dollar in Black market on Monday went up to N620

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 9:24pm On May 25, 2022
kingBolton:

Exactly..
And I think this his current move takes him further away from the presidency. Which party can win the presidency for him that he can join now?

APC as VP? Who knows?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:28pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


APC? Who knows?

Obi don mess up with that decision to leave PDP. Unless he has money to spend and win their favor back like Atiku or political goodwill like Saraki or grassroot like Kwankwanso

That is likely the end of his ambition to become President or VP

No one will trust someone who dumps parties easily like he did to APGA and PDP

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:29pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


No matter how brainy you are we practically copied the American system which only allows 2 party to thrive. How will you achieve this

I have a personal friend who relocated from America to Nigeria around 2007. He has been active in Nigerian politics for the past 10yrs and he never get any post
And like 2hrs ago when the news of Peter Obi broke out he sent a message to me that shows that all we do online is a waste of time

For you to win any election in Nigeria you have to be physically present for 4hrs before elections and spending heavily on a daily basis to have a chance

I have few friends who have tried House of Rep before and we know how it ended.



Do you mean 4years ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:29pm On May 25, 2022
popizaino:



Do you mean 4years ?


4yrs I mean
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:30pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


No matter how brainy you are we practically copied the American system which only allows 2 party to thrive. How will you achieve this

This is obviously not true. Before 2013? Was it a 2 party system?? Off my head I know about 6 parties that were strong regionally.
Only PDP was the behemoth. ACN-4 governors APGA 2 governors, labor party 3 governors, oshomole, mimiko of Ondo, CPC 3 governors, nasarawa and some, ANPP 1 governor.


Now today we still have some small regional parties with strong sponsors, senators and reps; APGA, ypp, nnpp, etc. .what's to say we don't emulate France, Brazil or india that also uses presidential system and has multiple strong parties?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:31pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


In 2015 we heard Atiku was sharing $5k and Tinubu bitchslapped him with $7k per delegate to get Buhari the ticket
In 2019, we heard that Atiku $10K per delegate was what won the ticket when dem Saraki were doing $5k each

This is 2023 with Putin inflation, rising prices and now theyve reduced the number of delegates so a delegate vote of 2023 is like 2.5 of 2019

Also 2019 was a long shot at removing a very popular brand like Buhari, 2023 is a more realistic chance of actually becoming president

If you are a delegate and anyone offer you less than $20K return am. Sir Larride will double it


Hahahaha.

Dem done reduce delegate numbers?

Na him be say bonanza don set.

Atiku hit $9k last time. If delegate numbers done half, $30k from the big boys is not out the question.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by plat0: 9:32pm On May 25, 2022
Unlimited22:

It's a bit difficult to believe that you live here chief, especially when you talk about insecurity and Wike.


Do you have any parent or family member who's retired from Rivers state Civil service since 2015?
Port Harcourt is relatively peaceful and nobody is perfect, even the peter obi that seems to be gen z's choice is not perfect, he has some skeletons in his cupboard.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:32pm On May 25, 2022
popizaino:



Do you mean 4years ?

I have a family member who spent heavily trying to win HOR ticket. He practically closed his thriving business and moved to the state to mobilize.

EVeryday for 2yrs na heavy spending for the boys every corner na billing. even the govt of the state supported him until like 2months to election everything changed

He became desperate started borrowing, using his assets as collateral. Dem chop everything clean mouth. He lost badly couldnt even get party ticket

His family crumbled and he became broke

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