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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 9:32pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


Obi don mess up with that decision to leave PDP. Unless he has money to spend and win their favor back like Atiku or political goodwill like Saraki or grassroot like Kwankwanso

That is likely the end of his ambition to become President or VP

No one will trust someone who dumps parties easily like he did to APGA and PDP

If APC can accept someone like FFK and even rolled out the carpet for him to meet Buhari then they can take OBI.

Anyway, we will see how events unfold in the coming days.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Oasis007(m): 9:36pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


If APC can accept someone like FFK and even rolled out the carpet for him to meet Buhari then they can take OBI.

Anyway, we will see how events unfold in the coming days.

cheesy

FFK? Forget him. Buni is no more acting Chairman of APC. FFK that has no value in his home state, hence joins a Ward in Abuja?

If Obi wants to join APC today, he's definitely gonna be welcomed and celebrated. He has made himself a force among online Youths. And he's gonna be handy to win more than 5% in the East.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:38pm On May 25, 2022
donjazet:


This is obviously not true. Before 2013? Was it a 2 party system?? Off my head I know about 6 parties that were strong regionally.
Only PDP was the behemoth. ACN-4 governors APGA 2 governors, labor party 3 governors, oshomole, mimiko of Ondo, CPC 3 governors, nasarawa and some, ANPP 1 governor.


Now today we still have some small regional parties with strong sponsors, senators and reps; APGA, ypp, nnpp, etc. .what's to say we don't emulate France, Brazil or india that also uses presidential system and has multiple strong parties?

How many of these have a realistic chance of winning elections?

Do you know the history of all these or you are ust typing? I am in America and will tell you this

Those you listed in 2013 were still a fragment of the 2 party system

How did Labour have 3? Mimiko and Oshiomole contested and lost elections to PDP. Tinubu collapsed his ACN machinery to support them with the agreement that they will decamp to ACN after, The political machinery of ACN won them the appeal. Oshio joined APC< Mimiko reneged
What happened to oshiomole, he became part of the founders of APC and a party chariman
What happened to Mimiko? he did 8yrs as labor, immediately dumped the party for Zenith Party, he found that its a joke he is now back to PDP

All the CPC and ANPP collapsed themselves into APC while APGA split themselves into Obi(PDP) Rochas (APC)

What does this show? We have only 2 viable option.

Splitting ourselves into 6 parties actually favours the Behemoth as votes that should be consolidated would be split

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:38pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


Obi don mess up with that decision to leave PDP. Unless he has money to spend and win their favor back like Atiku or political goodwill like Saraki or grassroot like Kwankwanso

That is likely the end of his ambition to become President or VP

No one will trust someone who dumps parties easily like he did to APGA and PDP

He can still go back.

All our politicians no get shame
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:38pm On May 25, 2022
Delusion. cheesy

APGA, PDP and now NNP.

And you think he’s serious?

Man singlehandedly gave APC presidential victory with his decision.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 9:39pm On May 25, 2022
Unlimited22:

It's a bit difficult to believe that you live here chief, especially when you talk about insecurity and Wike.


Do you have any parent or family member who's retired from Rivers state Civil service since 2015?

When you have the time, go through this. It's a long read and will give you a good idea how things were back in the days

http://saharareporters.com/2010/08/31/denouement-soboma-george-part-1

I sleep with my two eyes closed, move around town without fear of being kidnapped. I'm not saying we don't have pockets of insecurity here and there but its not much.

Whether you agree or not, the truth is, miscreants masquerading as IPOB would have overrun the state were it not for WIKE

As for your second paragraph, you are digressing from my post which is about insecurity

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 9:41pm On May 25, 2022
Oasis007:


cheesy

FFK? Forget him. Buni is no more acting Chairman of APC. FFK that has no value in his home state, hence joins a Ward in Abuja?

If Obi wants to join APC today, he's definitely gonna be welcomed and celebrated. He has made himself a force among online Youths. And he's gonna be handy to win more than 5% in the East.

I think it's going to be smart play on the part of APC if they can field Obi as vice.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:42pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


If APC can accept someone like FFK and even rolled out the carpet for him to meet Buhari then they can take OBI.

Anyway, we will see how events unfold in the coming days.

What did they accept FFK back for? Just a cheer leader and internet troll

There are people who have been steady and withstood humiliation and stayed with the party in tribulations plus they have money waiting for ticket

What does Obi have to offer?

Why do you think Tinubu and Oshiomole no decamp despite all the rubishing wey dem eye see between 2017 and 2022?

The vulture is a patient bird

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Oasis007(m): 9:43pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


I think it's going to be smart play on the part of APC if they can field Obi as vice.


Vice to who?!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:44pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


I think it's going to be smart play on the part of APC if they can field Obi as vice.


As who's vice?

Tinubu
Osibanjo
Amaechi

E mean say dem wan dash Atiku or Wike Also rock naa

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:45pm On May 25, 2022
izzou:


He can still go back.

All our politicians no get shame

Its not about shame. What does he have to offer the APC that will make them hand presidential ticket to him

Atiku can change party tonight and get the presidential ticket because he has money to give, Same with Tinubu

What does Obi have to give beside English? even donjazet go help am pieces that grammar

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Itsrm(m): 9:48pm On May 25, 2022
izzou:


As who's vice?

Tinubu
Osibanjo
Amaechi

E mean say dem wan dash Atiku or Wike Also rock naa

As you know already, I am expecting WIKE to win the PDP ticket.

I'm thinking Obi will offer healthy competition to WIKE when it comes to SE and SS votes.

Cc Oasis007

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:52pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:
It we want to talk plenty things and not face the reality on ground, lets continue to deceive ourselves and think twiteratti matters

I think Obi made an irrational decision to leave PDP because that might be the end of his dream to become anything in Nigerian politics

He left APGA, left PDP where will he go next? He doesnt have the money of Tinubu or Atiku to buy himself into a major party

And take note this is a 2 party system. America with over 300yrs democracy has not been able to do anything about this 2 party politics for centuries



Baba should have stuck around for the hope of a ministerial position if PDP wins
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:52pm On May 25, 2022
Itsrm:


As you know already, I am expecting WIKE to win the PDP ticket.

I'm thinking Obi will offer healthy competition to WIKE when it comes to SE and SS votes.


The SE doesn't look like a place where block numbers would emerge because of Ekpa and his boys

APC would rather campaign heavily in the entire north and SW, then look to heavens for whatever that region brings
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:52pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


Its not about shame. What does he have to offer the APC that will make them hand presidential ticket to him

Atiku can change party tonight and get the presidential ticket because he has money to give, Same with Tinubu

What does Obi have to give beside English? even donjazet go help am pieces that grammar

The funny thing be say if he decides to join APC , in an instant he will lose the votes of people like DonJ who see him as the next best thing after jollof rice. The Twitter community will be disappointed and love will turn to hate sharperly.

Shey no be double wahala for dead body like this ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 9:56pm On May 25, 2022
Mourinho and Abraham congratulations. First coach to win champions league and europa league and conference league. He is a legend and not a fraud.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:56pm On May 25, 2022
Smalling has been fantastic for Roma.

Meanwhile, Father Abraham winking while down on the turf cheesy He's learning well cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:57pm On May 25, 2022
Ibime:
Baba should have stuck around for the hope of a ministerial position if PDP wins

Exactly politics is a long game like my elder bros Sir Larride said yesterday. Stick around make yourself relevant in your party and become a big figure in the party. If PDP wants to pick anyone in SW now, them fit consider Fayose because of that factor and that is the card Wike is using to stroke Atiku say he fled when they needed him but money speaks

Also you must be ready to spend heavily. My guy who was running for Rep alone spends almost 3m per week on "this request" that request from people in his constituency, When election reach dem go still ignore am. He told me someone sent him a SMS that he needs financial support to complete the roof of his house, Some need to pay WAEC fees for their kids etc

When one of the Northern governor was saying Tinubu sponsored him in the days of ACN and this is the time to repay him back. ACN days will be around 2011 (11yrs ago)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sniper04(m): 9:58pm On May 25, 2022
Up roma
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:58pm On May 25, 2022
izzou:


The SE doesn't look like a place where block numbers would emerge because of Ekpa and his boys

APC would rather campaign heavily in the entire north and SW, then look to heavens for whatever that region brings

Tinubu wey dey travel around every Northern state you don see an anywhere for SE? Actually have you seen any candidate for SE? Even na style dem go use avoid the place for proper campaign
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:58pm On May 25, 2022
Stop playing....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Joezinho: 9:59pm On May 25, 2022
''..Attack wins you games, Defense wins you titles.."
-- Sir Alex Ferguson the great...

Congrats to Jose Mario Santos Mourinho.. One goal is enough. Tuchel and Apari should learn from him. cheesy

The first to win the Champions League, the Europa League and the Conference League.

Smalling wins man of the match. God punish man utd board. Is Smalling not better than lindelof and the fridge?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 10:00pm On May 25, 2022
The last two teams that sacked him are yet to win a trophy.

Are you playing??

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ShadowWalker00(m): 10:00pm On May 25, 2022
donjazet:


Security?? Surely you didn't say that. grin

Rivers state that has the highest number of cultists in Nigeria? Rivers state where for 2 years, it's citizens put themselves on lockdown from night time because of area boys?

Rivera state that has the highest number of politicians killed by their rivals?

Wike would be worse than anybody because the worst kind of leader you can have is one who has no fear of even his subjects. He will be a tyrant worse than abacha. Just look at how he has converted rivers state Treasury to his personal wallet. The highest payed state in Nigeria.

Wike is a terrible Human being and leader.
Cheap talk cheesy cheesy.

Peter Obi is a saint, incorruptible, prudent abi nah let him go, and win the presidential election nah. cheesy cheesy

He still has Pandora case on his head let him solve it first.

Why attack Wike, is this not insecurity, and inferiority like this cause, anyways cheesy cheesy.

The new Nigerian law school campus at Rivers state is bigger than any project Obi commissioned in his tenure as Anambra governor.Obi can't beat that.

Save the tears for Saturday when Wike wins cheesy cheesy, no be prophesy nah spoiler wink.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:01pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


Tinubu wey dey travel around every Northern state you don see an anywhere for SE? Actually have you seen any candidate for SE? Even na style dem go use avoid the place for proper campaign

I am sure if he wins the ticket, he will campaign there.

But he knows that primary issues are different from presidential issues....(something Obi never understood)

Tinubu dey invest him time and money for place wey go pay am. No need for 1 million marches yet.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Odunharry(m): 10:02pm On May 25, 2022
Mourinho as usual..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 10:05pm On May 25, 2022
European finals?? Leave it for Mourinho.

5 in 5!!

With Porto, Roma, ManU and Inter.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:06pm On May 25, 2022
donstan18:

Someone here , i think Larride once said delegates choose loyalty and future gains over sharp money.

I think he was right.

It depends on the state and the political actors there.

For example, in a state like Oyo where APC is the opposition and with no clear political leader since Ajimobi died, the delegates will swing mostly to whoever can offer them the most package.

Compared to a state like Osun with an APC Governor, the delegates from there will mostly be the Governor loyal associates and they will be elected as delegates to do the bidding of the Governor and they will do so because they will need the Governor to further their own ambition also.

Delegate election is a brutal election. If you don’t have the structure, you will lose bigly.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 10:09pm On May 25, 2022
donstan18:
European finals?? Leave it for Mourinho.

5 in 5!!

With Porto, Roma, ManU and Inter.

The special one.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:09pm On May 25, 2022
Ibime:


Hahahaha. Obi know say him money no long like that. Delegate settlement no go pass $12k, but dem go collect some $ks from like 5 or 6 candidate plus small change from the small boys like Pius Anyim etc. Delegates plenty to settle.

Atiku and Wike go reach $8k-$12k

Saraki go reach $8k if he has a chance, if not he go drop out at $5k

Everybody else will drop out at $1k to $3k, then the small boys will drop like $500 to mark register. Udom suppose hit $3k before realising his chances are slim.

If Kwankwaso still dey, he would be sure to hit $3k like last time

Delegates go collect like $30k total.

Saraki has a chance cos he's got friends among the main power players in most states and they instruct their delegates how to vote regardless of the egunje on offer. Saraki has no enemies in PDP while Wike has plenty, but the states Wike wins, he will collect all the delegates, while Saraki will collect a portion from every state except Rivers, Katsina and AkwaIbom. Atiku is lazy but has money to buy the whole ticket. Saraki is actually politicking well, collecting small favour from almost every state and big numbers from Kano. Also Saraki is used to working with the whole country as former speaker.

I still favour Atiku slightly but Wike and Saraki have a very good chance. As the night progress sha, the winner will be clear.

Saraki cannot play in the same range like Atiku or Wike. He won’t waste his money.

Personally, I believe PDP ticket is Atiku to lose except all the other aspirant join hands together and support one of them else Atiku will flog them all.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:13pm On May 25, 2022
Ibime:



Hahahaha.

Dem done reduce delegate numbers?

Na him be say bonanza don set.

Atiku hit $9k last time. If delegate numbers done half, $30k from the big boys is not out the question.

In the new electoral act, the National Assembly excluded themselves and all statutory delegates from voting in the primaries. Buhari asked them to amend that section when he returned the bill to them but they didn’t. They wanted to stop political appointees from voting as delegates and in the process they disenfranchised themselves.

They noticed the calamity last week and quickly amended the act and sent it back to Buhari to assent. Baba has refused to assent it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:16pm On May 25, 2022
raumdeuter:


Exactly politics is a long game like my elder bros Sir Larride said yesterday. Stick around make yourself relevant in your party and become a big figure in the party. If PDP wants to pick anyone in SW now, them fit consider Fayose because of that factor and that is the card Wike is using to stroke Atiku say he fled when they needed him but money speaks

Also you must be ready to spend heavily. My guy who was running for Rep alone spends almost 3m per week on "this request" that request from people in his constituency, When election reach dem go still ignore am. He told me someone sent him a SMS that he needs financial support to complete the roof of his house, Some need to pay WAEC fees for their kids etc

When one of the Northern governor was saying Tinubu sponsored him in the days of ACN and this is the time to repay him back. ACN days will be around 2011 (11yrs ago)

Same thing with Delta ACN. Tinubu gave the party to Ovie Omo Agege and one other man like that. These guys still control the structure of APC delta till date.

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