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What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by MangekyoAlt: 5:05pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
What The West (Still) Gets Wrong About Putin (June 1st) By Tatiana Stanovaya, a nonresident scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/06/01/putin-war-ukraine-west-misconceptions/
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Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by MangekyoAlt: 5:07pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
I don't exactly agree with ALL her points, but a good read nonetheless... No doubt Cc; Drenimarcus Uprightness100 Svlla basilico Seun Mynd44 Lalasticlacla Alamkir 1 Like |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by God1000(m): 5:09pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
This war has so far achieved the opposite of what he wants It has become a serious entanglement for him, I don't pity him because he orchestrated everything to boost his useless ego. Meanwhile you guys should stop quoting me |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by MangekyoAlt: 5:10pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
God1000:With the way you commented so fast I doubt if you even read more than 3 lines. Where was it stated in the article that he has achieved exactly what he hoped to at the start of the invasion? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by Hashabiah: 5:13pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
Hmmm...true talk. |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by seunny4lif(m): 5:15pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
God1000:What are you talking about unless you are talking about Finland and Sweden membership to NATO. Ukraine have lost 20% of its land which the size of England and Wales combined and Ukraine can’t even use the port for now that even UN have to beg Russia to allow Ukraine to export. If the war have achieved opposites then why are EU leaders France and Germany calling Russia leaders phones not the other way around. Why are USA defence ministries calling Russia phone numbers. Even Sky and many UK news, are now talking about negotiating with Russia to end the war as Ukraine troops are losing since Russia have now change the war of the game Oil is over $110 per barrel, this war have opened many countries eyes. The Gulf nations don’t join sanctions, because they are happily making billions of dollars right now. Russia foreign minister was invited by Gulf nations. Japan that initially sanctioned Russia by banned all Russians citizens just reversed it yesterday and also refused to pulled of Russia gas deal. Russia owned MIR card is now be accepted in Turkey the first ever. My own is when will Africa leaders wake up? When? We have all the stuff to make our continent great. This war shows that made your own stuff and never ever put your truth in other people stuff 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by Drenimarcus(m): 5:43pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
Lmao, what is she smoking? Russia has gained tremendously with this SMO. I speak to Russians daily. It was at first difficult as they had to navigate through the sanctions imposed on them, but Russia was prepared! Things has stabilized in Russia, in fact most of Russians who left are now returning. It is why Putin stated that the government should start paying large families who have 2-4 kids. The Victory Day alone should be an eye opener for anyone who has God-given sense to know that Russia will never capitulate. SMO is going nicely, Only 2 cities left for the fall of Donbas with one 80% captured. The EU is at odds with the U.S., Britain and its neighbors. The countries cannot agree on the extent of the threat posed by Russia and Ukraine's chances of winning. It is the West capitulating because they never expected Russia to withstand all the sanctions imposed on it. Russia has 10k plus sanctions imposed and is still standing. That tells it all. I have said it before the start of this SMO and saying it again. The world will split into 2 parts: small countries will run to China and Russia for economic and military support. It is already happening. Multi-polar world is here!!! Maa go listen to Viktor Tsoi. They had better go on their knees and beg Mother Russia to send grain and unblock ports or well hunger will kill the west 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by MangekyoAlt: 6:03pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
Drenimarcus: I cannot even stay one minute on reddit anymore. Because most of the subs I'm on, whenever the Russia's advances in ukraine are being brought up, they say it's just small advances in eastern Europe (on small villages and towns). Meanwhile, read this article. It revealed through a detailed map the size of area russia has currently taken from Ukraine. I mean land masses bigger than the size of the UK and Italy. I saw a page on this frontpage citing some illterates saying the EU banned 90% of oil they receive from Russia, and that the ban would hurt putin more than those who imposed it. (I'll link that thread later). The Russian govt has said redirecting their oil, if banned by any customer, to others and finding other customers wouldn't be difficult. But that isn't even the point in trying to make. The point is, what western media's peddled for gullible people to believe is the exact opposite of actual reality. The EU said they would be banning Russian Imports of oil through LNG and tankers , not pipelines. Meanwhile please take a look at the picture I attached. Apparently 2/3 of EU import of Russian Oil is through pipelines. This is obvious to everyone. Well how is that, they are reporting that 90% of Russian Oil Imports have been banned, when they clearly didn't even ban pipeline which is the medium which they use to receive more than 80% of the said oil? To me, this exposes that they just give out inaccurate publishments of their actions against Russia, probably to save face. Meanwhile, back to the topic I made, I don't exactly agree with all the points this woman made. But as a western scholar who is obviously a pro western, she went as far as to debunk the ongoing trend in the west is that Russia or rather, Putin as she puts it, has failed woefully when in reality, in the Kremlin they could be seeing the operation as an ongoing success since Ukraine is being rendered useless ATM 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by Drenimarcus(m): 6:33pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt: Reddit, Twitter and Quora are all liberal apps. I am very active on Reddit but i dont go to read the news and it is pointless arguing with ignorant folks who will never yield to reasoning. They know Donbas is about to fall, hence you can see the MSM slowly changing their tune. Their sanctions are worthless because it holds no water, Russia is chesting them all. All their theatrics is just for show. They are trying so hard to show they are in control. They know this is killing their economies but they dont care. Russia is winning and they know it. Best they can do is to put boots on ground and we all know that aint gonna happen. |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by oluobi(m): 7:45pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/02/russia-economic-war-ukraine-food-fuel-price-vladimir-putin?CMP=share_btn_tw Russia is winning the economic war - and Putin is no closer to withdrawing troops | Larry Elliott |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by Alamkir: 9:35pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
Most of her point we already know, but we will continue to school this children on NL who can't put the pieces together ....... Either way u calculate this war Russia is winning from all angle. Economically, proxicaly, militarily. Ukraine lost long time ago, even if the war stops now it will take them decades to recover. 3 Likes |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by Nancy1986: 10:25pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
Interview were done many Russian were asked how they see nato expansion towards Russia and all of them said they don't like it. This shows they want and love what putin is doing in Ukraine. Security of your nation is greater than any thing you can imagine. So Russia is on the right track of history. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by seunny4lif(m): 10:26pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
Zelensky admits Russia now holds one-fifth of Ukraine, the largest country entirely within Europe. What he didn't acknowledge is that Russia controls Ukraine's industrial heartland, 90% of its energy resources (including all of offshore oil), and its critical ports and shipping. And mind you the Russian army is advancing and taking territory without gas, tanks, planes, ships, generals, soldiers nor a president (died of cancer). If you know you know, make nobody ask me why. 3 Likes |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by DerrickzB: 10:53pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
Loooool!! Truth is I didn’t waste my time to read what she wrote, the sub-headings alone shows she is blinded by her western obligation!! Only a liberated mind would see the truth!! Donbas is falling already but the west is saying a different thing!! It’s well 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by OhMyG0d: 11:52pm On Jun 02, 2022 |
What a lot of these peeps failed to understand is that, Russians are different type of breed when it comes to war/battle. Once they set their goals, their spirit can not be broken. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What The West (still) Gets Wrong About Putin (june 1st) by Nancy1986: 2:14am On Jun 03, 2022 |
OhMyG0d:exactly. |
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