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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 11:20am On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
Lol.. e tire me oo.

The club is more interested in getting Tierney's back up than a Partey's back up. Na wa ooo grin
lokonja can do the job cry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 11:30am On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
Lol.. e tire me oo.

The club is more interested in getting Tierney's back up than a Partey's back up. Na wa ooo grin

lol. The club has not signed anyone yet now and I doubt Tierney's back up is their main priority. You know how this negotiation goes na... Getting agreement with the selling-club and personal terms with quality players takes time. Those easy players comes much quicker.

I think our priority has always been, CF 1st, that is why the 1st rumor was about signing Jesus and getting Nketiah to sign a new contract.

2nd priority is in the midfield (CM/DM), There have been continuous talk about getting Zinchenko and Tielemans both are to strengthen our midfield and we have also extended Elneny's contract.

I dont really think we will need to get Hicky or any other defender again if we get an utility player like Zinchenko (who can help both at the back and in the midfield), and with Saliba coming back.

We would only need to get another winger if Pepe leaves.

So basically, if we get Jesus/Nunez, Zinchenko and Tielemans, then we have little or no more business to do in the transfer market. I want us to keep the core of the present team and minimize all the multiple experiments Arteta was doing early last season.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 12:57pm On Jun 03, 2022
johnjunior39:


Next season again, we will find another reason to buy another defender again. Hickey is not enough lol.

Abeg make una rest biko
Tavares may go on loan. He needs to grow
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 12:57pm On Jun 03, 2022
iamoyindamola:

Lmao how is he partey backup
He is a midfielder and Partey is a midfielder undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 12:58pm On Jun 03, 2022
kodded:
a midfield combo of Tielemans, xhaka and odeggard is very very weak. Infact teams will be looking forward to play against such a weak midfield everyday
Are you sure?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 12:59pm On Jun 03, 2022
johnjunior39:



Defender, What Trusty is for what?
I didn't know much about Trusty, but I checked him up and saw we even signed him in Jan. He is on loan and may probably remain there till he grows up like Saliba. Well I don't know much of him and can't rate him. And for your information, he is a CB not FB.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:03pm On Jun 03, 2022
Spy360:

He is a midfielder and Partey is a midfielder undecided
You are right grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:05pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
My Priority signings

A quality CM and DM(23/24-26) —playing consistently in a top league

A very good quality Striker (24-26)

A quality winger (look for way to sell or loan Pepe)

Summary
2 Midfielders: CM and DM
A quality winger
A quality striker
This was what I posted now, I probably only added one LB because I want to replace Tavares. But you took it like I only wanted defenders.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:09pm On Jun 03, 2022
ObaIgwe1:


lol. The club has not signed anyone yet now and I doubt Tierney's back up is their main priority. You know how this negotiation goes na... Getting agreement with the selling-club and personal terms with quality players takes time. Those easy players comes much quicker.

I think our priority has always been, CF 1st, that is why the 1st rumor was about signing Jesus and getting Nketiah to sign a new contract.

2nd priority is in the midfield (CM/DM), There have been continuous talk about getting Zinchenko and Tielemans both are to strengthen our midfield and we have also extended Elneny's contract.

I dont really think we will need to get Hicky or any other defender again if we get an utility player like Zinchenko (who can help both at the back and in the midfield), and with Saliba coming back.

We would only need to get another winger if Pepe leaves.

So basically, if we get Jesus/Nunez, Zinchenko and Tielemans, then we have little or no more business to do in the transfer market. I want us to keep the core of the present team and minimize all the multiple experiments Arteta was doing early last season.
Exactly. Though if Pepe leaves we will need another winger and that's where Gnabry comes in. I don't trust Marquinhos to give Saka good competition.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:12pm On Jun 03, 2022
iamoyindamola:

You are right grin grin grin
Thanks

I know you like Bissouma but he is not Arsenal quality. He may not fit in well with Arteta's tactics. Arteta doesn't use a low block DM like Bissouma. He uses a CM or box to box midfielder.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 1:52pm On Jun 03, 2022
Spy360:

Are you sure?
there is no physical presence in that midfield.

That midfield will expose the defenders
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:49pm On Jun 03, 2022
kodded:
lokonja can do the job cry
Lol... grin grin

Hopefully, the guy bulks up and improves his game. If he can get opportunities at midtable team, it'll be better.

Person like Douglas Luiz suppose be back up to Partey not Lokonga
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:56pm On Jun 03, 2022
ObaIgwe1:


lol. The club has not signed anyone yet now and I doubt Tierney's back up is their main priority. You know how this negotiation goes na... Getting agreement with the selling-club and personal terms with quality players takes time. Those easy players comes much quicker.

I think our priority has always been, CF 1st, that is why the 1st rumor was about signing Jesus and getting Nketiah to sign a new contract.

2nd priority is in the midfield (CM/DM), There have been continuous talk about getting Zinchenko and Tielemans both are to strengthen our midfield and we have also extended Elneny's contract.

I dont really think we will need to get Hicky or any other defender again if we get an utility player like Zinchenko (who can help both at the back and in the midfield), and with Saliba coming back.

We would only need to get another winger if Pepe leaves.

So basically, if we get Jesus/Nunez, Zinchenko and Tielemans, then we have little or no more business to do in the transfer market. I want us to keep the core of the present team and minimize all the multiple experiments Arteta was doing early last season.
I agree with everything you put up there.

If we can get those 3, it'll be better. But realistically, I don't see us getting Zinchenko and Jesus same time from same club. Moreover, Zinchenko is a very very important squad member go Guardiola.

Make we dey watch sha
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 3:03pm On Jun 03, 2022
Spy360:

Thanks

I know you like Bissouma but he is not Arsenal quality. He may not fit in well with Arteta's tactics. Arteta doesn't use a low block DM like Bissouma. He uses a CM or box to box midfielder.
Lol.. this one you dey say "thanks"... It's funny you see that as sod agreeing with you instead of the sarcastical answer he meant grin


Who told you bissouma is a low block DM? In fact, do Brighton play low block?
Abi you think say every midtable teams na low block teams?
You even talking down on bissouma quality, lemme just assume you hardly watched him or Brighton
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 3:18pm On Jun 03, 2022
Spy360:

This was what I posted now, I probably only added one LB because I want to replace Tavares. But you took it like I only wanted defenders.
I didn't take it like that. My point is that defenders of any caliber isn't a priority signing again.

Also, what we posted was different

Yours was 1 DF, 1Mf and 2 attackers
Mine was 2 Midfielders (DM and CM), 2 attackers.

You're downplaying Partey's role again and the worst part is that you're thinking Tielemans can play there just because he's a Midfielder.

We need quality in that Midfield and attack and this obsession about Tavarez not been good enough will be forgotten. Worst of it all is that Tavarez Is not even a first teamer. We've gotten an Lcb in Trusty (24yrs) and Rcb in Saliba (22yrs)/Holding as CB backups. We've got Cedric and Tavarez as fullback backups. Let's forget anything about defence abeg or else we'll keep on resetting it even till our 10th generation.

Midfield and attack is weak and needs to be settled, why are we worrying ourselves over 2nd choice fullback?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:25pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
Lol... grin grin

Hopefully, the guy bulks up and improves his game. If he can get opportunities at midtable team, it'll be better.

Person like Douglas Luiz suppose be back up to Partey not Lokonga
Tielemans will do the job grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 3:25pm On Jun 03, 2022
kodded:
there is no physical presence in that midfield.

That midfield will expose the defenders
Free expressway.

Imagine Odegaard and Tielemans who isn't good as a box to box you now what to mann them with Xhaka as a sitting 4.

Or maybe Tielemans and Xhaka as the base 2 in a 4231. Xhaka wey rash as a defensive wall and Tielemans wey no too good defensively like that? Lol.

Later when they start pumping us goals, we'll start hearing how Tavarez is a flop, Gabriel no better pass Luiz and how Ramsdale na just hype job.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 3:28pm On Jun 03, 2022
iamoyindamola:

Tielemans will do the job grin grin grin
no be only job, na Jobberman grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:31pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
no be only job, na Jobberman grin grin
Before lonkonga was partey replacement now is tielemans
Person way na ndidi they block and protect them is who we will put in the heart of midfield omo i like arsenal fans
Beating no they do anything grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 3:32pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
I agree with everything you put up there.

If we can get those 3, it'll be better. But realistically, I don't see us getting Zinchenko and Jesus same time from same club. Moreover, Zinchenko is a very very important squad member go Guardiola.

Make we dey watch sha

IMO, City get them qualities in excess and are still in the market for more. Their reserve is stronger than many teams' 1st eleven. They will not miss Zinchenko and Jesus if they leave. I think it is 'personal lifetime ambition' of Pep to win CL with City grin ... Also the easiest place for Arteta to do business will be City for now... Because of the personal relationship between him and Pep. Arteta will not even make a move if Pep still considers a particular player his important squad member...I am sure the 1st person Arteta will ask about any City player is Pep. Except the rumors are just being carried by yeye press/Blogs as usual...so fingers crossed.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:39pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
Lol.. this one you dey say "thanks"... It's funny you see that as sod agreeing with you instead of the sarcastical answer he meant grin


Who told you bissouma is a low block DM? In fact, do Brighton play low block?
Abi you think say every midtable teams na low block teams?
You even talking down on bissouma quality, lemme just assume you hardly watched him or Brighton
Lol

It's also funny you didn't notice I was being sarcastic too hence the

Anyways, I don't think Bissouma will be great for us because he won't fit into the style. The style is for the CM to be a ball carrier, passer, distributor and attack initiator just as Partey and Elneny. Bissouma is more like a defense minded midfielder whose game is mainly to break attacks.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 3:41pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
Free expressway.

Imagine Odegaard and Tielemans who isn't good as a box to box you now what to mann them with Xhaka as a sitting 4.

Or maybe Tielemans and Xhaka as the base 2 in a 4231. Xhaka wey rash as a defensive wall and Tielemans wey no too good defensively like that? Lol.

Later when they start pumping us goals, we'll start hearing how Tavarez is a flop, Gabriel no better pass Luiz and how Ramsdale na just hype job.

the pumping no be for here o.

Imagine this Liverpool team playing against that midfield.
E go be like knife wey pass through butter without any resistance.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:50pm On Jun 03, 2022
kodded:


the pumping no be for here o.

Imagine this Liverpool team playing against that midfield.
E go be like knife wey pass through butter without any resistance.
Make e happen fess grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:53pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
I didn't take it like that. My point is that defenders of any caliber isn't a priority signing again.

Also, what we posted was different

Yours was 1 DF, 1Mf and 2 attackers
Mine was 2 Midfielders (DM and CM), 2 attackers.

You're downplaying Partey's role again and the worst part is that you're thinking Tielemans can play there just because he's a Midfielder.

We need quality in that Midfield and attack and this obsession about Tavarez not been good enough will be forgotten. Worst of it all is that Tavarez Is not even a first teamer. We've gotten an Lcb in Trusty (24yrs) and Rcb in Saliba (22yrs)/Holding as CB backups. We've got Cedric and Tavarez as fullback backups. Let's forget anything about defence abeg or else we'll keep on resetting it even till our 10th generation.

Midfield and attack is weak and needs to be settled, why are we worrying ourselves over 2nd choice fullback?


I will take it that you didn't notice the defender I mentioned was Zinchenko who is actually a midfielder.

Besides, there is a reason the club is going for a new LB (Zinchenko or Hickey), and that's because the manager feels he can not stand having Tavares backing up Tierney next season knowing how T easily gets injured. So your opinion here doesn't count.

As for Tielemans, he isn't even my first choice. I prefer Neves. But he seems the most likely Arteta will sign and so I just have to accept the decision. However, I prefer him to your Bissouma because he fits in better in that Partey role.

By the way, what role do you think Partey plays? Because he is bulky and strong you feel he is more defensive because that's where most of you are looking at. Partey is in that team more for his attacking abilities than defending.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 3:54pm On Jun 03, 2022
iamoyindamola:

Before lonkonga was partey replacement now is tielemans
Person way na ndidi they block and protect them is who we will put in the heart of midfield omo i like arsenal fans
Beating no they do anything grin grin grin

lol I really dont't think Tielemans is Partey's replacement. The Midfield players we are getting are just to strengthen our team and provide more options, not to replace Partey. I don't even know why we are talking about Partey's replacement when the guy is not leaving us any time soon. Maybe the phrase should be "Partey's backup" in the event of Partey's getting injured again, in that case we would just have to pray for less injury and make use of the options we have.

Let's be honest with ourselves here, there are few players worldwide that can play Partey's position better than him, and if we must go for them, we should be budgeting serious money here. Like Roland17 often says, Partey is one player that can easily walk into any 1st 11 of any team and get a permanent place. We are blessed to have him and I doubt anyone is looking for his replacement at this time. We all saw how weaker we became and how clean sheet suddenly disappeared when he got injured last time. I will vote for him as the Captain of that team.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 3:55pm On Jun 03, 2022
iamoyindamola:

Make e happen fess grin grin grin
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 4:14pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
This club does not surprise me anymore.
I still dey wait for our moves for transfer market. Moreover Trusty is a Left footed CB so we got that covered

We don't need another defender(in any form) but trust our club to start getting us defenders again
It is about intent. Arteta wanted 2 rightfooted CBs and 2 left-footed CBs. Mari's departure created the need for another left-footed CB. Arteta wan copy Pep... Dias,Laporte,Stone,Ake...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 4:18pm On Jun 03, 2022
Roland17:


I would rather we get 2 midfielders instead of 2 defenders. If we get Hicky, that means we have 3 LBs (Tierney/ Tavarez/ Hicky), what do we need 3 LBs for? not adding Cedric sef who can play LB..We have invested/ wasted a lot of money on defenders over the last 3 seasons. That midfield needs quality and depth which is what we lack. Our priority should be getting 2 quality midfielders and a very good striker.

For those of you who don't know, Hicky is nothing but a mini Tierney but worse on the defensive end. I watched him severally this past season when my Milan side played Bologna and he did not impress me to be honest and that is why I have not discussed him because I don't understand why we are going for him. More so, while he is a LB who can also play RB, Hickey played as a LWB in a 3-man defense which is different from what we do.
Realistically speaking..we don't have a reliable LB bro. Cedric sef should be preparing to move. I will take Norton ahead of Cedric in that RB sef
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:18pm On Jun 03, 2022
ObaIgwe1:


lol I really dont't think Tielemans is Partey's replacement. The Midfield players we are getting are just to strengthen our team and provide more options, not to replace Partey. I don't even know why we are talking about Partey's replacement when the guy is not leaving us any time soon. Maybe the phrase should be "Partey's backup" in the event of Partey's getting injured again, in that case we would just have to pray for less injury and make use of the options we have.

Let's be honest with ourselves here, there are few players worldwide that can play Partey's position better than him, and if we must go for them, we should be budgeting serious money here. Like Roland17 often says, Partey is one player that can easily walk into any 1st 11 of any team and get a permanent place. We are blessed to have him and I doubt anyone is looking for his replacement at this time. We all saw how weaker we became and how clean sheet suddenly disappeared when he got injured last time. I will vote for him as the Captain of that team.
The thing is that we are looking for possibilities in case Partey suffers those unfortunate injuries. But basically, it should be about someone who will partner him as I don't want Xhaka claiming a first team shirt next season.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:19pm On Jun 03, 2022
mostob:
Realistically speaking..we don't have a reliable LB bro. Cedric sef should be preparing to move. I will take Norton ahead of Cedric in that RB sef
kiss

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 4:22pm On Jun 03, 2022
Jodera:
I agree with everything you put up there.

If we can get those 3, it'll be better. But realistically, I don't see us getting Zinchenko and Jesus same time from same club. Moreover, Zinchenko is a very very important squad member go Guardiola.

Make we dey watch sha
Man city about to sign Cucurella. Zinchenko may likely leave City
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 4:23pm On Jun 03, 2022
Spy360:

Thanks

I know you like Bissouma but he is not Arsenal quality. He may not fit in well with Arteta's tactics. Arteta doesn't use a low block DM like Bissouma. He uses a CM or box to box midfielder.
You say
The same Bissouma?

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