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Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:48am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19: Now you've shown your true colour so all the followers of this thread can see that you've noticed how stupid you are to have jumped into conclusion without making a thorough research on the accusation enemies of truth are saying about God's organization. Shame on you! When i say i worked with the intelligence most of you felt it's a joke. No wahala, i've opened your eyes today to see what you didn't check carefully before getting carried away with false accusations! Paul said: "Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine" So next time do your findings thoroughly before following the crowd to do evil! Exodus 23:1-2 I'm still very much around if you have anything disturbing you further about God's organization JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. May you have PEACE! 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:06am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19: OK let me give you the benefit of doubt and TEACH you perhaps you still have a conscience that's working in you! For first of all, I hear that when you come together in a congregation, divisions exist among you; and to an extent I believe it. For there will certainly also be sects among you, so that those of you who are approved may also become evident. Paul is using the highlighted in red to remind the first century Christians what Jesus once taught them by the use of illustration when he said: "The Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field. While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left. Matt 13:24-25 If you're a farmer you will know that when you plant a crop in your farm it will be the same kind of seed but when weeds start to grow it will be different kind. So Jesus already taught what Paul is saying here that the different sects are Satan's agents not Christians! Matt 13:38 Note Paul's wise choice of words, he said "among YOU" instead of saying "among US" which means the differences is not of God but of the devil. That's why he admonished the first century Christians to stop associating with such individuals because they belong to Satan not Christ. Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11 Do you still have further questions? 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Mikee19(m): 8:06am On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Abeg no be fight na! We have always disagreed without going down to insults. We will again do so. Cheers |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:11am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19:Stupidity is not an insult my guy, just prove that you've not been stupid by pasting on this thread any publication of JWs where a specific date has been mentioned in line with the common accusation that this group prophesied the end of the world with dates. Thank you! 1 Like
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Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:19am On Jun 04, 2022 |
We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! No weapon formed against our faith will have any success and any tongue that rises against us will be silenced, that's the heritage of God's people and as for our righteousness don't let it bother you because it's from our God JEHOVAH! Isaiah 54:17 MaxInDHouse: Do have a lovely weekend! 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Mikee19(m): 9:29am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Again, the dates are given in the publications listed on the site, and I've seen them myself! The phone and the browser I'm currently using make it impossible for me to do so at this time, but I am mighty surprised that despite it being given on the site you still ask that it be posted here! Anyways, I'm usually more concerned with proving from scripture what's right and wrong, which is why i referred to someone else who has put in the work. I don't concern myself with such things as those. It will never be my priority, ever! It is a simple matter to show that current doctrine of JWs are very false. I've done this and would do this again. This I concern myself with, rather than looking thru publications for failed prophecies. I refer to them so that those that need them can put in the work also, and take them from there MaxInDHouse: 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Image123(m): 9:34am On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You are suffering from inferiority complex, you hypocrite. Are you not aware that other denominations have their prophets, Bishops or Overseers that all members and teachers in that denomination agree to what he says on doctrine? i guess your ignorance stems from being a former muslin and never going to any of these other denominations but swallowing what your lying elders tell you about them hook, line and sinker. There's nothing to learn about disagreements, you are the one just learning it after i pointed them out to you. You initially said there was never any disagreement and can never be a disagreement in church. i showed you how there were several disagreements settled in the Bible. Like i advised, come out of the hole you're in and see that every established denomination have leaders/elders or whatever name they call themselves. 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Image123(m): 9:35am On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: It's a compliment na, not an insult. Irredeemable Hypocrite. 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:51am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19: STORY! STORY!! STORY!!! Do you know what it means to be an agent of the military intelligence? We don't give stupid reports rather we take our time to find out the truth as in exactly what really happened not just following what people say. So if you can't present any publication of JWs where a specific date predicting the end of the world is mentioned then don't be offended when you're described as "STUPID" because you won't appreciate your own child who comes home to give you an incriminating false report based on here say! Exod 23:1-2 compare to 1Thess 5:21
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Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:04am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Image123: Keep deceiving yourself! So how come only JWs are known for a unique teaching? Why having different denominations if you're all teaching what is true? Do you think truth has contradicting versions? Well Paul said God never called Jehovah's Witnesses into confusion {1Corin 14:33} if you people truly work for the same God there should not have been any contradictions {1Corin 1:10} but because you all know that there's no uniqueness in your teachings you're all eyeing the one and only organization having a unique teaching that's recognizable globally {Matt 5:14-16} and instead of giving praise to the true God who has prefected such uniqueness you're speaking abusively of God's organization! 1Peter 3:16; 4:4 Please open up the scriptures and back up your faith, prove that you're not idolaters who just choose any form of worship that soothes them out of various forms! Matt 7:13-14 |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:07am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Image123: STUPIDITY is helping liars to spread wrong accusation but when asked for evidence you start blabbing. Exod 23:1-2 That's exactly what Mikee19 is doing right now. All he needs to do is just paste one publication of JWs where a specific date was mentioned regarding the end of the world. Ló bá tán! 1Thess 5:21 |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Mikee19(m): 10:08am On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: This sir, is VERY FALSE. You know that verses and chapters weren't in Paul's letters right? it was just one long thing written to his audience NKJV 1Co 11:2: "² Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you." He was praising them for keeping the traditions as delivered unto them! He then called them "brethren"! These are UNDOUBTEDLY Christians! No doubt at all! Notice he used "you" and not "we" when talking to them, and yet they were no doubt believers... Now few verses down, same audience, same letter, same people, same BRETHREN (notice also that Paul didn't put verses in, translators did that, meaning he was yet talking to the very same people!) NKJV 1Co 11:17: "¹⁷ Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse." He, talking to these same Christians, although he said he'll praise them for keeping other instructions he passed unto them, said he WILL NOT praise them this time around! Doesn't mean the audience has changed to unbelievers, just that the same people, SAME BELIEVERS, who were obedient to certain truths were not obedient this time around! They remain the same believers, even tho he said "You" again in referring to them! This is merely a matter of consistency, where he was using "You" to refer to believers, he cannot suddenly use "we"! Notice also be said "You come together"... So what happens when these believers who were obedient to other truths elsewhere but disobedient to these particular ones come together as he's said? NKJV 1Co 11:18-19: "¹⁸ For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. ¹⁹ For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you." Again, these are BELIEVERS coming together as the context has shown! The same audience in verse 1 is the same audience in verse 17 and the same audience in these verses! You sir are wrong. Paul identifies them as BELIEVERS who were obedient to certain truths but stumbled in others! "You" or "we" is of no consequence, just for consistency, they remain believers regardless. When THESE BELIEVERS/BRETHREN come together there are divisions! When you use parables, use them carefully. You cannot ignore the original context first of all, before bringing a parable from somewhere else. 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Image123(m): 10:15am On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: What you describe is called lying, not stupidity. Stupidity is being stupid. Stupid is : slow of mind : OBTUSE b: given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless manner c: lacking intelligence or reason That is an insult and a sin, but of course you don't care. All you care about is selling magazines and endless arguments. |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:21am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19: My guy Paul was addressing a congregation which he himself formed through his missionary journey so it supposed to be a Christian congregation. However there were Satan's agents which the devil sow in their midst just as Jesus Christ said in his parable {Matthew 13:24-30} such ones are responsible for the different sects having contradicting teachings not those who are keeping the tradition of subjecting only to the teachings of the Governing Body (Apostles and elders in Jerusalem) Act 2:42 You asked me why quoting Jesus' word about oneness in thought {John 17:22} so if you don't want the truth no wahala but know today that God has heard the fervent prayer of His only begotten Son that's why Jehovah's Witnesses perfectly reflect what Jesus prayed for {1Corin 1:10; Ephe 4:3} while others are divided as in SCATTERED in their so called faith! Luke 11:23 |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:29am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Image123: You goofed big time! I believe Mikee19 is being stupid and not lying that's why i gave him a benefit of doubt, if he is lying intentionally then why wasting my precious time with a malicious liar? So i believe he was stupid to have believed the rumors instead of ascertaining if any specific date has been mentioned ever in the publications of JWs regarding the end of the world. I know he's really ashamed of himself right now because he can never find any publication of JWs where a specific date was mentioned. That's the first thing i researched when i first heard people accusing this wonderful group as false prophecies. Whatever makes the JWs false prophets equally makes John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth false prophets as well because they both declared the end some 2,000 years ago and up till now wickedness has continue to exist. So why do i believe John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and JWs today? Because they never mentioned a specific date and failed!
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Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Mikee19(m): 11:07am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Let me ask you a simple, practical question. Your GB are uninspired. They can make serious blunders. You know this is possible. Let's say they are wrong on trinity, how can you tell? Let's say they are wrong on hell how can you tell? Let's say they are wrong about going to heaven, how can you tell? Let's make this very very practical now. Don't tell because you can see fruits; with all these fruits they have been making errors all the same. So, in a very practical manner, how? Note that you've just indicated you MUST follow them notwithstanding. So if you're following them into error, no way to tell? MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:53am On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19: My friend, please calm down and go straight to your question. Inspiration doesn't mean the inspired person is perfect God chooses to inspire people due to their humility and readiness to admit their blunders not because they are perfect. So even though they are inspired they can still commit serious blunders {Roma 7:15-25} all what they needed is a Christian brother upon whom the spirit works to call them back to the path of righteousness! Galat 2:11-14 The phrase you keep repeating "let's say" connotes assumptions so try to be specific what question exactly do have in mind? |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Image123(m): 12:21pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: i am not interested in what you are both arguing about. You said calling someone stupid is not an insult, which i objected. Unfortunately, you can't see something that plain so you will rather argue aimlessly as usual. Here's what you said below. STUPIDITY is helping liars to spread wrong accusation but when asked for evidence you start blabbing. Exod 23:1-2 Helping to spread wrong accusation or information is under the lie family, call it deception or calumny but it's not stupidity which is simply an insult. 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Mikee19(m): 12:34pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: By this admission, you have NO WAY of knowing whenever you interpret scripture wrongly on your own! You must depend upon external help. This is sad. You are right now deceived and have no way to know since you have no choice but to agree with whatever you're taught in your organization even if it be false. I certainly don't envy you at all! Only the grace of God can therefore help you as you are powerless in yourself to judge whether what you're taught is accurate or not, you must swallow it that way. This has just confirmed why it is you must always give answers from your books as the final word. Wow! Quite sad MaxInDHouse: I actually used "let's say" because I didn't want to come off as rude. They are wrong in truth. But you would never see it no matter what anybody says with what you've said, being helpless and dependent on your organization which is also in the wrong. No hope but God's grace. It won't matter what anybody says from scripture. All that matters is what your organization says, the interpretation they give. You are no more an individual with a mind of your own to judge things for yourself, but are utterly dependent on your GB or some external person the "spirit works on" to test things for you. "Test all things and hold on to what is true" doesn't really apply to you, cos in truth you have no ability to test on your own, and must accept what you're told as the standard and fact. Anyone who tries to reason with you therefore wastes his time. At this point, it's only God... So for now, have a lovely day! 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Courz: 12:55pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19: Guy, didn't you loose a couple of brain cells conversing with that JW Robot? He is an AI programme. JWs have been thoroughly brainwashed by Watchtower. The Brainwashing was not just a physical one but a spiritual one as well. The organisation is a Freemason organisation that dabbles in spiritism. You need to understand that fellow can't be reasoned with. Watchtower has sacrificed the Brains of JWs to Lucifer. The Bible talked about the JWs Spiritual Blindness. The Holy Spirit is not working with Watchtower. They admitted that. Don't expect JWs to have the Spiritual understanding of the Scriptures. This is why a lot of your words are flying over his head. 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:15pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
Image123: STUPIDITY simply connotes blunder committing but LYING means deliberate acts. So to me STUPID is description of the person's state of mind but LIE connotes intentional evil act! |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:33pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19: You don't need to argue continuously if you have good intentions {1Timo 6:4} all what you should do is present your points plainly and leave your audience to use their intellect. Jesus has answered you long time ago: “Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matt 7:15-18 All humans are imperfect meaning prone to errors so how do we recognize true servants of God in the midst of Satan's agents? Jesus clearly stated that their produce will help because true servants of God will have the backing of God's Holy Spirit so they will produce fine fruit but Satan's agents can't do the same because it's the attributes of flesh that will always reflect in the gathering of imperfect humans without the backing of God's Holy Spirit. That's why Apostle Paul clearly stated the works of FLESH {Gala 5 19-21} and the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit {Gala 5:22-23} note that it's within the gathering of imperfect humans that both attributes will reflect but while the spirit of God permeating the gathering of God's imperfect worshipers and making use of them to do God's will, the gathering without God's spirit only produces what ordinary imperfect humans can reflect. So instead of giving yourself needless headache with doubt, just go straight to their produce!
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Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:45pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
Courz: We are the one and only true Christian group so like our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus most people will say exactly what Jesus' contemporaries thought and said about him: “He has a demon and is out of his mind. Why do you listen to him?” John 10:20 Even his own relatives (mother and brothers) said: “He has gone out of his mind.” Mark 3:21 But Jesus has prepared our minds fully ahead of you faithless people {Matthew 10:25} wisdom is justified by her children! Luke 7:35 So you're entitled to your PERSONAL opinion Sir! 1Corin 2:14 |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Courz: 1:53pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Why didn't Watchtower inform you JWs that the so called anointed ones are freemasons as shown in the video below? Why did the freemasons in this video admit that jehovah is Lucifer and that you JWs don't know that but only they know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:05pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
Courz: I thought you said this: Courz: So if you already know all these then why bother asking further questions? Matt7:6
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Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Courz: 2:07pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Why didn't Watchtower inform you JWs that the so called anointed ones are freemasons as shown in the video below? Why did the freemasons in this video admit that jehovah is Lucifer and that you JWs don't know that but only they know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:10pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
Courz: Psalms 83:18 How i wish Mikee19 is reading this now so that he can see how programming really works! |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Mikee19(m): 2:11pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Now this is the one place, in everything you've said, that I agree with. I'll call it a day here, but I will be sure to reference this post when the appropriate time comes. I just didn't know it's next to impossible to get you to see my point and only realized this by virtue of these remarks, but I will certainly lay it out (while referencing these) at the right time. The audience will see them. I can only pray that you do too. Cheers |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Courz: 2:11pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Why didn't Watchtower inform you JWs that the so called anointed ones are freemasons as shown in the video below? Why did the freemasons in this video admit that jehovah is Lucifer and that you JWs don't know that but only they know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA 1 Like |
Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:17pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
Mikee19: You can only make sense to me if you present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses, anything short of that please don't waste your time arguing because i have made my stand clear to you: "there is only one true God JEHOVAH and one Christ Jesus, Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only organization practicing pure worship today" So do have a wonderful weekend my friend!
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Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:18pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
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Re: Can God Reconcile With Devil by Courz: 2:23pm On Jun 04, 2022 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=113465673][/quote] Why has Door to Door Preaching become a threat to Watchtower that it was excluded in the latest announcement which was confirmed from the below expose' from a Circuit Overseer?
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