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To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 7:26pm On Jun 04, 2022
The Bible nowhere explicitly states that masturbation is a sin, but there is no question that the actions that usually lead to masturbation are sinful. Masturbation is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, inappropriate sexual stimulation,and/or pornography. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and pornography are forsaken and overcome, masturbation will become much less of an issue and temptation.

Many people struggle with guilt concerning masturbation, when, in reality, they would be far better off repenting of the sins that lead them to masturbate.

With that said, is masturbation itself a sin? While the Bible does not directly answer this question, there definitely are some biblical principles that can be applied to the issue:

(1) “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God” (1 Corinthians 10:31). If we cannot give God glory for something, we should not do it.

(2) “Everything that does not come from faith is sin” (Romans 14:23). If we are not fully convinced that an activity is honoring to God, it is a sin.

(3) “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore, honor God with your body” (1 Corinthians 6:19–20). Our bodies have been redeemed and belong to God.

(4) “The fruit of the Spirit is . . . self-control” (Galatians 5:22–23). Masturbation is almost always a sign of a lack of self-control.

These great truths should have a powerful impact on what we do with our bodies. In light of these principles, many conclude that masturbation is always sinful. Masturbation is a questionable activity, at best—whether it can glorify God; whether it can be done in absolute confidence that it is right; and whether it can honor God as the owner of our bodies.

If done with absolutely no lust, immoral thoughts, or pornography, with full assurance that it is good and right, with thanks given to God for the pleasure it brings (see 1 Corinthians 10:30), is it still a sin to masturbate? The most we can say is maybe not. However, we have serious doubts whether this scenario ever truly exists.

https://www.gotquestions.org/masturbation-sin.html

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Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Kobojunkie: 8:07pm On Jun 04, 2022
Acehart:
The Bible nowhere explicitly states that masturbation is a sin, but there is no question that the actions that usually lead to masturbation are sinful. Masturbation is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, inappropriate sexual stimulation,and/or pornography. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and pornography are forsaken and overcome, masturbation will become much less of an issue and temptation.

Many people struggle with guilt concerning masturbation, when, in reality, they would be far better off repenting of the sins that lead them to masturbate.

With that said, is masturbation itself a sin? While the Bible does not directly answer this question, there definitely are some biblical principles that can be applied to the issue:
Sin is direct disobedience of God's very commandment, as our transgressions are said to be against that declared in God's Law and not simply that taught up in the minds of men. undecided

In God's New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, the agreement God has made with individuals who accept His Truth in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 - Neither masturbation, nor sin, is listed as sin. Instead, what is sin is sexual lust, the sin of adultery- Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28. undecided

Those who focus on sex - fornication, etc., - and masturbation distract themselves from that which really is sin. Such focus is on the wrong things as far as God's Truth is concerned. undecided
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by MindHacker9009(m): 8:19pm On Jun 04, 2022
Masturbation is not a sin. It is a way out God has provided for men not to quickly jump into a bad marriage with a jezebel.

Masturbation allows a man to use he mind and not his rod to to reason when looking for a good woman to marry.

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Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Dtruthspeaker: 8:37pm On Jun 04, 2022
Acehart:
The Bible nowhere explicitly states that masturbation is a sin,

Same as the Bible does not expressly state "do not smoke" yet it is known it is prohibited.

John 3 already tells us that anything you do in dark, you already know that it should not be done, else you would have done it in the light and publicly.
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 8:41pm On Jun 04, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Same as the Bible does not expressly state "do not smoke" yet it is known it is prohibited.

John 3 already tells us that anything you do in dark, you already know that it should not be done, else you would have done it in the light and publicly.


Are all things done in the dark harmful?
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 8:43pm On Jun 04, 2022
MindHacker9009:
Masturbation is not a sin. It is a way out God has provided for men not to quickly jump into a bad marriage with a jezebel.

Masturbation allows a man to use he mind and not his rod to to reason when looking for a good woman to marry.

Is masturbation wrong in marriage especially if a spouse is far away for an extended period of time?

Cc: kobojunkie
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by MindHacker9009(m): 8:46pm On Jun 04, 2022
Acehart:


Is masturbation wrong in marriage especially if a spouse is far away for an extended period of time?

Masturbation is allowed in marriage too when there are situations like the one you mentioned
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 8:48pm On Jun 04, 2022
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Kobojunkie: 8:49pm On Jun 04, 2022
Acehart:
Is masturbation wrong in marriage especially if a spouse is far away for an extended period of time?
Again, sexual lust, not masturbation, is sin in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28. undecided

Regardless of a person's marital status - married, virgin, single, widowed etc., - if he/she lusts in his heart after another, he or she is guilty of the sin of adultery. undecided
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 8:50pm On Jun 04, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Again, sexual lust, not masturbation, is sin in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28. undecided

Regardless of a person's marital status, if he/she lusts in his heart after another, he or she is guilty of the sin of adultery. undecided

When a man lusts after his wife, is it a sin?
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Kobojunkie: 8:51pm On Jun 04, 2022
Acehart:
When a man lusts after his wife, is it a sin?
In marriage, a man and woman are considered one. undecided
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 8:53pm On Jun 04, 2022
Kobojunkie:
In marriage, a man and woman are considered one. undecided

I take this to mean that you affirm that masturbation in marriage is not sinful?
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Kobojunkie: 8:55pm On Jun 04, 2022
Acehart:
I take this to mean that you affirm that masturbation in marriage is not sinful?
Sexual lust, not masturbation, is sin in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28 undecided
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 8:57pm On Jun 04, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Sexual lust, not masturbation, is sin in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28 undecided

Please answer with a "yes" or "No": can a man sexually lust after his wife? Is this lust counted as sin against him?
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Kobojunkie: 9:05pm On Jun 04, 2022
Acehart:
Please answer with a "yes" or "No": can a man sexually lust after his wife? Is this lust counted as sin against him?
A man is one with the woman he is married I.e. she is referred to as wife, not woman. undecided

Matthew 5 vs 27 -28 speaks of lust after a woman, not wife. undecided
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Dtruthspeaker: 6:20am On Jun 05, 2022
Acehart:


Are all things done in the dark harmful?

We know that which is good and evil and The Law
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 7:31am On Jun 05, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


We know that which is good and evil and The Law

Uhm
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by AntiChristian: 7:38am On Jun 05, 2022
This topic no clear at all from the Bible. People need to complete it.

Masturbation, Gambling and Alcoholism are not sinful according to the Bible.

Too many front and back!
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by NNTR: 8:34am On Jun 05, 2022
NNTR:
If God has intended human beings not to masturbate, He would’ve made human beings' arms shorter, just like T-Rex aka Tyrannosaurus rex, one of the most ferocious predators to ever walk the Earth, arms were short like.

jesusjnr2020, you need biology lessons, if you really think, it is possible having sex with a demon in the spirit world.

There are many hypocritical Christians like you jesusjnr2020, who are trapped in marriages, indulging in sex without love, which essentially is nothing other than a complex form of masturbation.

I have no idea why jesusjnr2020, the OP isnt giving autoeroticism a chance, especially when masturbation, simply is sex, you're having with someone you love. It in fact, is self love.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.



Acehart:
The Bible nowhere explicitly states that masturbation is a sin, but there is no question that the actions that usually lead to masturbation are sinful. Masturbation is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, inappropriate sexual stimulation,and/or pornography. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and pornography are forsaken and overcome, masturbation will become much less of an issue and temptation.

Many people struggle with guilt concerning masturbation, when, in reality, they would be far better off repenting of the sins that lead them to masturbate.

With that said, is masturbation itself a sin? While the Bible does not directly answer this question, there definitely are some biblical principles that can be applied to the issue:

(1) “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God” (1 Corinthians 10:31). If we cannot give God glory for something, we should not do it.

(2) “Everything that does not come from faith is sin” (Romans 14:23). If we are not fully convinced that an activity is honoring to God, it is a sin.

(3) “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore, honor God with your body” (1 Corinthians 6:19–20). Our bodies have been redeemed and belong to God.

(4) “The fruit of the Spirit is . . . self-control” (Galatians 5:22–23). Masturbation is almost always a sign of a lack of self-control.

These great truths should have a powerful impact on what we do with our bodies. In light of these principles, many conclude that masturbation is always sinful. Masturbation is a questionable activity, at best—whether it can glorify God; whether it can be done in absolute confidence that it is right; and whether it can honor God as the owner of our bodies.

If done with absolutely no lust, immoral thoughts, or pornography, with full assurance that it is good and right, with thanks given to God for the pleasure it brings (see 1 Corinthians 10:30), is it still a sin to masturbate? The most we can say is maybe not. However, we have serious doubts whether this scenario ever truly exists.

https://www.gotquestions.org/masturbation-sin.html
Mark 12:31
'30Love the Lord your God with all your heart
and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’
31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
No other commandment is greater than these.” '


There are occasion where masturbation, can be normal sexual activity, and with that in mind, masturbation, then in itself, is not necessarily going to be a sin, just like that, especially if done with absolutely no lust, immoral thoughts, or no lusting after the objects, in supposedly, viewed pornography.

Masturbation, in fact, is sex, for one. Is self improvement, its self-love, its having sex with someone you love, you. One of probable sins, in this form of permissible masturbation, is the sin of, not doing the masturbation well, just as well as it will be sinful, not making love well with a partner.

Masturbation is secret pleasure. Masturbation is having pleasure without financial cost. Or who you want pay, for having it or giving it, when its something you can do yourself. There, also, is this good thing about masturbation, which is, you dont have to dress up, for it.

Do you know that, love is what makes sex be anything more than masturbation? You see, when having sex, even with an active partner, if love is not involved, then you essentially are simply and really just masturbating with the partner. Having sex without love, is just a complex form of masturbation.

Masturbation should not be viewed as forbidden or inappropriate, but as the key to success, in certain circumstances, it should not be seen as a shameful act, but rather as a self-positive experience. Through masturbation you discover what sets you off and what doesnt. Gives you the opportunity to learn how to love every inch of your body and yourself. This will breed self-confidence and will make a big impact in your lovemaking sex life. Masturbation is can be an ongoing love affair, we all can have with ourselves, throughout the duration of our lives.

Now, it will be sinful to masturbate in public, simply based on the premise that, doing something like that, in open view, for everyone to see, when its you alone, that's enjoying and benefiting from it, is a no-no.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 8:34am On Jun 05, 2022
AntiChristian:
This topic no clear at all from the Bible. People need to complete it.

Masturbation, Gambling and Alcoholism are not sinful according to the Bible.

Too many front and back!

In the exact spot Ibrahim told his son that God will provide for Himself a sacrifice (provide for Himself a son as sacrifice), that is the exact spot Jesus the Christ was crucified.
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by NNTR: 8:37am On Jun 05, 2022
AntiChristian:
This topic no clear at all from the Bible. People need to complete it.

Masturbation, Gambling and Alcoholism are not sinful according to the Bible.

Too many front and back!
You would or ought to know your body, and would know what's good for it and whats not beneficial to it. Last, last, if at all when indulging in permissible masturbation, then, moderation, is the warning watchword here.

It is evident in the bible, when, where, how and what about gambling and alcoholism are sinful

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by atheistconverta: 8:45am On Jun 05, 2022
What else would one expect from a homosexualist aka muttleylaff who also denies the glaring truth that homosexuality was not just a sin but an abominable sin before God?

Birds of the same demonic feather flock together so no surprises here.
NNTR:



Mark 12:31
'30Love the Lord your God with all your heart
and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’
31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
No other commandment is greater than these.” '


There are occasion where masturbation can normal sexual activity, and with that in mind, masturbation, then in itself, is not necessarily going to be a sin just like that, especially if done with absolutely no lust, immoral thoughts, or no lusting after the objects in supposedly viewed pornography.

Masturbation, in fact, is sex for one. Is self improvement, its self-love, its having sex with someone you love, you. One of probable sins, in this form of permissible masturbation, is the sin of, not doing the masturbation well, just as well as it will be sinful, not making love well with a partner.

Masturbation is secret pleasure. Masturbation is having pleasure without financially cost. Or who you want pay having it or giving it, when its something you can do yourself. There's this good thing about masturbation, which is, you dont have to dress up, for it.

Do you know that, love is what makes sex be anything more than masturbation? You see, when having sex, even with an active partner, if love is not involved, then you essentially are simply and really just masturbating with the partner. Having sex without love, is just a complex form of masturbation.

Masturbation should not be viewed as forbidden or inappropriate, but as the key to success, in certain circumstances, it should not be seen as a shameful act, but rather as a self-positive experience. Through masturbation you discover what sets you off and what doesnt. Gives you the opportunity to learn how to love every inch of your body and yourself. This will breed self-confidence and will make a big impact in your lovemaking sex life. Masturbation is can be an ongoing love affair, we all can have with ourselves, throughout the duration of our lives.

Now, it will be sinful to masturbate in public, simply based on the premise that, doing something like that, in open view, for everyone to see, when its you alone, that's enjoying and benefiting from it, is a no-no.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.


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Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by NNTR: 9:05am On Jun 05, 2022
atheistconverta:
What else would one expect from a homosexualist aka muttleylaff who also denies the glaring truth that homosexuality was not just a sin but an abominable sin before God?

Birds of the same demonic feather flock together so no surprises here.

muttley laff
Revelation 12:10
'Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,
“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom (dominion, reign) of our God, and the authority of His Christ have come;
for the accuser of our [believing] brothers and sisters has been thrown down [at last],
he who accuses them
and keeps bringing charges [of sinful behavior] against them before our God day and night.
'

Matthew 5:11
'“Blessed [morally courageous and spiritually alive with life-joy in God’s goodness] are you when people insult you and persecute you,
and falsely say all kinds of evil things against you because of [your association with] Me.
'

A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation (i.e. Matthew 5:11).

Your accusation is of the devil. Whatever the accuser says here, actually is a reflection of their demonic self, (i.e. Revelation 12:10) not anyone else. We, now and then, even past gone, all have experienced yellow-bellied mud slingers accuser of brethren - so let them sling, let them say!

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by atheistconverta: 9:18am On Jun 05, 2022
NNTR:
Revelation 12:10
'Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,
“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom (dominion, reign) of our God, and the authority of His Christ have come;
for the accuser of our [believing] brothers and sisters has been thrown down [at last],
he who accuses them
and keeps bringing charges [of sinful behavior] against them before our God day and night.
'

Matthew 5:11
'“Blessed [morally courageous and spiritually alive with life-joy in God’s goodness] are you when people insult you and persecute you,
and falsely say all kinds of evil things against you because of [your association with] Me.
'

A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation (i.e. Matthew 5:11).

Whatever the accuser says of you, actually is a reflection of them, (i.e. Revelation 12:10). not you. We all have experienced yellow-bellied mud slingers accuser of brethren - let them sling, let them say!

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Feel free to continue in your abominable ways if you choose, but be ready to face the wrath that comes with such abominations if you don't repent.

Trust me, Sodom and Gomorrah would be child's play.

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Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by NNTR: 9:23am On Jun 05, 2022
atheistconverta:
Feel free to continue in your abominable ways if you choose, but be ready to face the wrath that comes with such abominations if you don't repent.

Trust me, Sodom and Gomorrah would be child's play.
Look at a so called thief, holding evidence, goat in arms, playing with it.

You better start get practising now, with hot water, to start with, getting used to the thermal high temperature and heat, because the lake of fire, currently is doing press-up and warming up for you, the devil and your co-demons, eagerly waiting to embrace you lot with outstretched open arms

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by xproducer: 11:03am On Jun 05, 2022
"This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would." - Galatians 5:16-17

"Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God." - Romans 6:12-13

"I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness." - Romans 6:19

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." - Romans 6:23

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"Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." - Matthew 26:41
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by Acehart: 12:44pm On Jun 05, 2022
NNTR:




'
Having sex without love, is just a complex form of masturbation.


Amongst many things I'd like to ask you, first is this: please explain what you meant by "Having sex without love, is just a complex form of masturbation".
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by NNTR: 1:27pm On Jun 05, 2022
Acehart:
Amongst many things I'd like to ask you,
smiley

Acehart:
first is this: please explain what you meant by "Having sex without love, is just a complex form of masturbation".
I meant just exactly what I said, being that, there exists abnormal masturbation, there exists excessive masturbation, there exists normal masturbation, there exists masturbation et cetera, now having having sex, which essentially is what you're having, be it banana or orange, having it without love involved or engaged, simply is, complex masturbation, thats on end of its spectrum, largely because love, is repressed in the activity.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by FirstSon01: 2:36pm On Jun 05, 2022
NNTR:
Revelation 12:10
'Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,
“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom (dominion, reign) of our God, and the authority of His Christ have come;
for the accuser of our [believing] brothers and sisters has been thrown down [at last],
he who accuses them
and keeps bringing charges [of sinful behavior] against them before our God day and night.
'

Matthew 5:11
'“Blessed [morally courageous and spiritually alive with life-joy in God’s goodness] are you when people insult you and persecute you,
and falsely say all kinds of evil things against you because of [your association with] Me.
'

A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation (i.e. Matthew 5:11).

Your accusation is of the devil. Whatever the accuser says here, actually is a reflection of their demonic self, (i.e. Revelation 12:10) not anyone else. We, now and then, even past gone, all have experienced yellow-bellied mud slingers accuser of brethren - so let them sling, let them say!

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Are you Spirit Man??

Spirit marvellous??
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by NNTR: 3:20pm On Jun 05, 2022
NNTR:
Philippians 2:5-8b
5Have this same attitude in yourselves which was in Christ Jesus
[look to Him as your example in selfless humility],
6who, although He existed in the form and unchanging essence of God
[as One with Him, possessing the fullness of all the divine attributes--the entire nature of Deity],
did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped or asserted
[as if He did not already possess it, or was afraid of losing it];
7but emptied Himself [without renouncing or diminishing His deity,
but only temporarily giving up the outward expression of divine equality and His rightful dignity]
by assuming the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men
[He became completely human but was without sin, being fully God and fully man].
8After He was found in [terms of His] outward appearance as a man [for a divinely-appointed time],


Yes, man was created in the Image of God, and to answer your 'How Come God Is A Spirit And Yet Has The Image Of Man' question. It is because something like that is not an impossible thing for God to do

When a portrait of you is drawn by an artist or painter on a canvas, in which way would you say, the image drawn and as seen on the canvas, looks like you

Deuteronomy 4:15-19
'15“So pay attention and watch yourselves carefully--for you did not see any form [of God] on the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire--
16so that you do not act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved or sculpted image [to worship] in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female,
17the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, or of any winged bird that flies in the sky,
18the likeness of anything that crawls on the ground, or of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth.
19And beware that you do not raise your eyes toward heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and let yourselves be led astray and worship them and serve them, [mere created bodies] which the LORD your God has allotted to [serve and benefit] all the peoples under the whole heaven
'

John 4:24
'God is spirit [the Source of life, yet invisible to mankind],
and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
'

Exodus 33:20
'But He added,
You cannot see My face, for humans cannot see Me and live.”
'

There is no contradiction, keep reading on for the creative workaround that solves this seemingly problem, obstacle, restriction, limitation etc

God is not just only a Spirit, that is not made at all, as He is the Maker, but God is incorporeal, meaning, God has no physical body, whereas man, taking into consideration the fact that man is tripartite, is made up with, a soul, spirit and body, as created by the Maker, God.

Unlike the body, that is physical, the soul and spirit, are not physical. The soul and spirit constitute an immaterial part of a whole person or being, whether human or animal.

Now dwelling further on man, the soul, is the animate life, and actually, is that humanity side of man, the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from.

In fact, the word, soul, even is used to refer to the whole person, whether alive on earth (i.e. land of the living) and/or after dead and transited in the afterlife (i.e. land of dead)

Wrapping up, the soul is the essence of what a human being is. The soul, is you, it is who you are. No surprises then, that, it is the soul that faces judgment, not the spirit and neither, not the body that stands before God, to give account for all the thoughts, deeds, words and actions did while the soul and spirit were housed in the body.

Focusing on the spirit, the spirit actually and appropriately, is ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force. Now, at this juncture, it is necessary, to note that, though humans and animals have spirit, (i.e. ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force) they however are not spirits nor Spirit (i.e. God)

The spirit (i.e. ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force) in relation to humans, is the element in humanity that gives us the ability to have, not just only a connection with God, but also used to form an intimate relationship with God through it. Essentially, meaning that, part of what the spirit is used for, is to connect to God with, who Himself is Spirit, the Life-force, and giver of ruach, otherwise known as, the wind or breath of God

When the soul is the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from, Proverbs 20:27, lets us know that, the spirit of man (i.e. talking of conscience here, and where as it happens, conscience, is one of the faculties of the spirit), is the lamp of the LORD, searching and examining all the innermost parts of his being, while 1 Corinthians 2:11, complementing, says, no one can know a person’s thoughts except that person’s own spirit, and no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit. You see, the spirit, doubles up also as a witness. It knows everything about the person, and this because of the 'record' it logs

While the soul has four faculties, which namely are: Consciousness, Intellect, Will and Emotions, now, as for the spirit, aside Conscience, the other faculties of the spirit, are Fellowship and Discernment or Intuition. It is when man’s spirit successfully connects to or connects with the Spirit, that it is becomes capable of knowing things of the Spirit (i.e. God). While the soul, is the humanity side of man, the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from, even giving us a purpose and/or sense of life, the spirit, on the other hand, is the temple throne seat of God in man, it not only is, the nourisher of soul, but it also gives us a power of life, from tuning into the God frequency channel or station and receiving transmitted spiritual signals thereof. Somebody, shout, Alleluia.

Physical pain, can with medicine, be made less severe, but mental pain (e.g. sorrow, grief, torment, despair, anguish, depression, dementia etc) is less accessible to treatment. Why is this? It's because of being connected to who we are - our personality, our character, our soul. Try and connect the dots, in the the parable of Lazarus and the dead rich man

Yes, the soul and the spirit are connected, yet we know, courtesy of Hebrews 4:12, that, they are able to be separated and are treated separately

In summary, the spirit, is the spark of light, the living or life force in the body, while the soul is kind of interface between spirit and body

The body dies (i.e. physically), it is because the spirit (i.e. life or living force) has expired, so the spirit stops existing in the body, from leaving the body and returning back to God, while the soul leaves the body, and moves on to a waiting area, pending the Judgment Day and verdict of where the last destination of the soul, will be. The body, after the exit of the spirit, experiences physical death, disintegrates, to end up, returning back, to being dust.

1 Timothy 6:16
He alone can never die,
and He lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach Him.
No human eye has ever seen Him, nor ever will.
All honor and power to Him forever! Amen.


Aside from, the underlined telling, in Deuteronomy 4:15, John 4:24 and Exodus 33:201 above, we also see in Timothy 6:16, that apart from God, alone possessing or having immortality (i.e. absolute exemption from death), we see that because of the fact that He lives in unapproachable light, no human being has ever seen or can see Him.

Now, if no one has seen God, nor can see God, then how possibly can God be seen, if at all, He can be physically seen then? Well, the only way to answer this seemingly confusing question and difficult problem is, by giving an answer that goes like this: the only way to physically see God, is through Jesus, who is God Incarnate, meaning God in human flesh, God personified, so meaning that, God presents Himself available to be seen, the way that Jesus in physical appearance looks

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.


NNTR:
Sir, there loads of answered question(s) in what you cynically call long note

I went far, above and beyond answering the question

Do you take it, as an impossible thing, for God to do, that is, be, God the Father and Son at the same time?

I dont believe this is a wise request to grant you, being that, the explanation will require a long note with content, that you'll struggle to fully understand or completely absorb

I never typed, you saying God isnt a Spirit. Please note the capitalisation, making a distinction between Spirit and spirit, loll

The difference, that you always dont see, is that your spirit, is not you, but rather, your soul, is you and vice versa.

Both the soul and spirit are gifts. Only that the gift of the soul is yours to keep, whereas, the gift of the spirit, is not yours to keep, because when all is done and dusted, the spirit returns back to its owner, God

The spirit (i.e. ruach) breathed into you, is what triggers your first heat beat that brought you alive. You remain alive, for as long as the ruach remains in your body and let your heart continue beating. Remember that, ruach, is otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, living or life force.

Coming from a principle point, I dont do arguments, so my apologies for not arguing with you.

The invisibility of God, is a biblically widely known fact, that even Deuteronomy 4:15, John 4:24, Exodus 33:201 and Timothy 6:16, helps us understand fully well about, but when saying 'no human being has seen or can see God' it doesnt mean, no one has seen God or cant see God, in other forms as the Angel of the Lord, the bush on flames but not burning, the pillars of fire and cloud in the wilderness or various other appearances not mentioned, but none of those experienced sighting of God, are the full revelation of God.

Genesis 1:26-27
"26Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness,
to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock,
and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.
27So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him;
male and female He created them
"

Aside black, red, as the colour, is one of my favourite colour, as it conveys, an imagery and air of love, romance, boldness, courage, chutzpah, danger, thrill etc for me and also because blood most of the time, is red, loll.

Now, when the bible, as seen in Genesis 1:26-27 above, says: 'Let Us make man, in Our image, after Our likeness', it is conveying a message that, we, human beings, are to be a physical image representation of different attributes of God. Now God is incorporeal, but He created us human beings, to physically project the different aspect and different visual imagery and likeness of the Godhead.

Image is instant, while likeness is continuum. The latter, is evident in Genesis 1:27, as seen above. Notice that the mention of "likeness" is left unsaid, in Genesis 1:27. Why? It is because, while image is instant, likeness, on the other hand is continuum.

1. How Jesus is God and we are not, simply is because Jesus, is God and we are gods.
The presence or absence of the 'G' capitalisation is the defining moment for who is God and who isnt God.

2. How Jesus is not human and we are human, is not correct at all, because to start with, Jesus is, God Incarnate, meaning, God, in the person of Jesus, took on flesh, to become human, as a bottom line, result of that, Jesus has characteristics of divinity and humanity.

As for us, yes, we are human, with, work in progress, in view, characteristics of divinity. The Genesis 1:26 likeness, is continuum, just as I shared above earlier on this post.

Have you ever physically seen love, physically seen compassion, physically touched kindness, physically held favour, physically held goodness in your arms etc?

John 20:29
Jesus said to Thomas,
"You believe because you've seen Me.
Blessed are those who haven't seen Me but believe.
"

Many need to and want to see but do not see. Many need to hear and want to hear what you hear on this thread but do not hear it or dont understand any of what they have read. All what they see the posts as, are challenging long notes loll

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.



FirstSon01:
Are you Spirit Man??
Just as like every other human being , I am made up of spirit, soul and body, however who and what I am, is, I am soul and vice versa, meaning, soul am I.

Meanwhile, ruach of God, is not only, purposed, to be a life force within me, but in addition to being a life force, doubles up, to strengthen me physically and support me mentally. It is via the spirit that I communicate with the Godhead. It is with the spirit, that every thing that happen or took place are logged and record of them kept

FirstSon01:
Spirit marvellous??
I have a marvellous, generously well oiled, good functioning and alive spirit within me

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by AntiChristian: 4:41pm On Jun 05, 2022
NNTR:
You would or ought to know your body, and would know what's good for it and whats not beneficial to it. Last, last, if at all when indulging in permissible masturbation, then, moderation, is the warning watchword here.

It is evident in the bible, when, where, how and what about gambling and alcoholism are sinful


Point me to the verse that says they're all sinful?
Re: To Masturbate Or Not To Masturbate by AntiChristian: 4:46pm On Jun 05, 2022
Acehart:


In the exact spot Ibrahim told his son that God will provide for Himself a sacrifice (provide for Himself a son as sacrifice), that is the exact spot Jesus the Christ was crucified.

Seems you're drunk or on something else!

Abraham killed an animal but the Jews erroneously thought they killed Jesus.
How is this even related to masturbation?

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