A40:
Failure is indeed an orphan. You're quick to defend any APC achievement here and inundate us with nonsense.

Now that we highlight their glaring failure you deny them like an illegitimate child. We all know about Community policing Captain Obvious. Why then are your principals not implementing it. Why can they not catch anybody? Why do we have your leaders speaking to the masses like they are powerless citizens and not the ones entrusted with securing life and property

This is what you should be explaining not this drivel you wrote here

Segedinho:

Exactly my fears..

I blv the recycling of these old politicians are hinged on oaths,allegiance and occultic beliefs.

nihilistjnr:


This is the voice of God.

donstan18:

Nobody sincerely gives a fvck about the solution to Nigeria because there’s none.

Both of us knows this.

While I’ve respected and keep respecting your civil and reasonable way of engaging debates, but you’ll be telling yourselves lots of lies if you say your first quote on Nihilistjnr wasn’t engineered with little sprinkles of political views and selfishness.

No condemnation of what happened, no remorse, just direct USA comparison and usual “insider” cappings from politicians.

Nezzjnr:
Ahhhhhhhh Insider Job??.... All Because you're a party Man

I go dey drop takes when Football don come back.

Seun Fit ban me if I talk.

Please if you are here and you have an opportunity to relocate... Don't hesitate to do so.... Same people preaching against Japa.... Na them dey always pay ahead for Passport booklet.

Enter IOM for Ikeja ... You'll see their likes there.

donstan18:

Nobody here cares about Nigeria’s solution. It’s some selfish shiit! We want solutions and ways to give ourselves and coming generations good life and JAPA is the way.

Me and you no send Nigerians once we travel.

Ellexy:
What Larride said is the truth. "Japa is not the solution to Nigeria's problems and can never be".

Nobody on this thread is against japa, but izzit the solution to this terrorism, corruption etc we are facing in this country?

The leaders have failed yes, the system is against the average young man yes, but if Nigeria will get it right, how is japa the solution?

larride:


Yes. Migration is not a new phenomenon. People will always seek greener pastures everywhere they can find it and like I said before, I am not against anyone japaing if they want to japa.

My stance is simple, as a country of over 200m people, Japa cannot be the solution because not everyone can japa, so the question remains, how do we take care and protect that haven’t japa or don’t even have the means to japa? That’s why I mentioned effective community policing. It’s in my first post to nihilist but someone everyone missed it.

The police in Owo is grossly inadequate and understaffed. The whole security architecture needs a complete overhaul to combat the new realities we are currently facing.

No one is happy with the constant killings and insecurities and for the sake of those that can’t japa, A solution must be found. It’s simple.

iamoyindamola:

The guy want his party to continue ruling over us with suffering and smiling syndrome

nihilistjnr:


Leave your father, mother siblings etc right now.

My parents are in Nigeria. All of us children dey across the world. I haven't seen one of my siblings in 3 years.

When we see we see. This life is an individual race.

Japa fess. If your parents truly love you, they won't even want you to come back.

Ellexy:
Speak for yourself. A working Nigeria is to our collective benefit. Nothing is too lost to be recovered and as far as Nigeria is concerned, there's still hope, I firmly believe this.

Ibime said something about being a bridge for the next generation but if we keep reasoning like this, we won't grasp the big picture and do what's necessary, at least try for posterity sake, else our generation will become worse than the elders we are criticizing now.

Unlimited22:
Larride, I'm really sorry for this, especially as I imagine you're older than I am, but you are mad.

As in, ara n'agba gị.

Nezzjnr:

It has gotten so bad that Party delegates determines who will run the Country and not the citizens

Ibime:


E go be Amazon deliveries not drop shipping

But guess what, that guy children will excel in the future even if it's too late for him to forge a more lucrative career. And I guarantee you he can still have some financial peace of mind even in what he is doing, while being the sacrificial lamb for his children's uplift

Sometimes in this life it's not about blowing but being the bridge on which your future generations can walk to the other side.

larride:


I’m not stopping anything. It is insensitive of you guys to keep shouting japa japa as if you are reading to give them the financial resources to japa.

Anyone that has any idea of Owo and where the church was located will know it’s most likely insiders that carried out the attack. Owo has one of the lowest number of police in the state with little or no DSS/Army presence. Those other security agencies only come to area when the Governor is around.

Now how many people will japa save in that town? Most probably less than 10% that’s even if they have the resources to japa but effective community policing will stop most of these attacks from criminals/terrorist.

You are well within your right to not give a fûck about the country but please stop this japa japa japa talk everytime a tragedy occurs. The highest number of people that japa annually from the country no even reach 50k out of a population of 200m.

Japa is not a solution.

larride:


How so?

Me mentioning US is to bring attention to the fact that a country with a huge population having insecurity issues should be looking for solutions to solve these issues and not shout of Japa. It’s clear in my post.

I have no agenda against anybody here and I drop my opinion based on my belief, it’s not my fault if most of the people on this board wear rose tinted glasses and can’t see beyond politics during any discussions.

For a thread that claims to have a lot of intellectuals, it’s disheartening.

popizaino:


Read through this thread and you will get to know better.

Ibime:


E go be Amazon deliveries not drop shipping

But guess what, that guy children will excel in the future even if it's too late for him to forge a more lucrative career. And I guarantee you he can still have some financial peace of mind even in what he is doing, while being the sacrificial lamb for his children's uplift

Sometimes in this life it's not about blowing but being the bridge on which your future generations can walk to the other side.

raumdeuter:


When I tell people say I dey gbadun donstan18 posts dem think say na joke.

Anytime your japa cruise carry you enter Yankee I owe you a bottle of beer

Roland17:


Baba, I think you are misconstruing the idea of japa to mean the solution to Nigeria's current problems. Let me assure you that many Nigerians in diaspora are as patriotic as they come. You are right, Japa can not solve Nigeria's problem and it shouldn't because it is more complex than that, however, discouraging people who feel differently about staying in Nigeria is not right because it is an individual decision that is personal based on personal circumstances. The idea of Japaing from Nigeria has never been because Naija was good enough for many, if anything it is the search for greener pastures for many, especially those from humble backgrounds.

As for resolving the spate of insecurity in Nigeria, while I like the community policing idea, especially if the officers are recruited from their local communities, I want you to know executing it effectively is even more complex and if not properly managed will cause more problems for a developing nation like Nigeria. I don't know how I feel about handing over the administration and control of the Police Force to overzealous Nigerian politicians who occupy governorship positions or other local positions when you consider our laws are not even strong enough to resist the potentials for abuse.

The last time I checked NIN was supposed to resolve some of these killings and help the police in tracking these elements, how has that gone thus far? It is now used mostly for business purposes and barely has any influence in resolving these killings that are occurring in droves across Nigeria. I have said this before, the first step to pushing Nigeria forward is to have a strong database of Nigerians, without it, we are pushing square pegs in round holes.

Nezzjnr:

It has gotten so bad that Party delegates determines who will run the Country and not the citizens

liveLongNprospa:


As you talk this thing so, how e be for your mouth..

I have an uncle who his heart keeps skipping multiple beats each time something happens in Nigeria because of family here.

So because I have travelled, you think heart ache cannot deal with me due to family being here.

We are both forged differently in the hell that is Nigeria.
So keep doing you

popizaino:


Neither is one Nigeria the solution so profess another solution to this mess we find ourselves in.

Segedinho:

That is why u must keep "trying"


A working system is hinged on good leaders....

It's actually in Yankee that a teen went into a school a d started shooting sporadically killing more than 18 children....
Did japa saved them,.
So what then is the essence of japa if you can still die of bullet wounds

donstan18:

I don’t think it’s disheartening to spill the bitter truth, given the fact that most politicians claims to give a fvck like you, about the welfare of the nation but won’t stop failing woefully.

You have no agenda against anybody here? Fine and agreed. Now let’s talk abt the selfish interest that engineered your first comment on Nihilistjnr.

The question is, if given two options..

1. Find the Owo killers and prosecute them with assurance that Tinubu won’t get the presidential ticket.

2. Forget about the Owo incident while Tinubu wins Nigeria presidential election.

Which would you choose respectfully??

larride:
Japa will never be a solution for a country with a population of 200m people. Anyone that has the means and resources to japa if they want but what’s the % of people in the country that can JAPA. It’s insensitive and you guys need to stop IT.

Every time a tragedy happens, the next thing we hear is japa, japa, japa as if 5% of the population have the financial means to japa.

This week alone, the US has recorded more than 3 masa shootings. They just had 1 overnight sef. Maybe their citizens should be shouting japa japa japa also.

Nezzjnr:
Ahhhhhhhh Insider Job??.... All Because you're a party Man

I go dey drop takes when Football don come back.

Seun Fit ban me if I talk.

Please if you are here and you have an opportunity to relocate... Don't hesitate to do so[b].... Same people preaching against Japa.... Na them dey always pay ahead for Passport booklet.

Enter IOM for Ikeja ... You'll see their likes there. [/b]

onyemaair:


Seriously I don't see why this discussion is being overstretched.

Everybody knows that living in foreign countries especially the rich one's like America or UK is better than living in Nigeria.
However, coming here to shout japa truly is insulting to the ordinary Nigerian. How many people in Nigeria can afford to japa? Do you think there are people in Nigeria who can afford to japa but choose to stay in Nigeria? More important is this really the right time to talk about it?
Many people Just died, you start shouting JAPA, as if there are fools here that can japa but would not. As if it's very easy to. It just looks to me like arrogance or foolishness. Arrogance on the people who are already there and now shouting japa and foolishness on the person who is actually here in nigeria, can't move out, at least not yet and then is shouting japa just when lives are lost. It's somehow.

raumdeuter:


An average American with the shooting will consider other positive in the country what are the compensating positive a Nigerian can think of to endure the insecurity

raumdeuter:


An average American with the shooting will consider other positive in the country what are the compensating positive a Nigerian can think of to endure the insecurity