Itzlinda:


Some how true. But a Hausa man cannot become a governor in maiduguri.

What makes you say this? Has there been an occurrence like this before?

afrodoc2:


I had sleepless nights over whether to buy BMW X5 or Mercedes Benz GLE. I successfully scaled through it but it can sink others.

Bruvv, I said yesterday I had a friend who went to Botswana as a doctor in mid 2000s, 10yrs ago he has now relocated to the US.
To get certain visas are easier in other African countries than in Nigeria
I heard of a Naija guy, got Ghana pali and he is now somwhere in Europe
2yrs of legal stay in a Southern African country you will realize that their US, Canada embassy is not warfare like in Walter Carrington

donjazet:
As I said earlier, success is loud, failure is silent.

Many at times, we hear of people that won millions via betting but what you rarely hear is how much that particular person has lost before. The person won't tell you that the money he won hasn't even covered the one's he lost.

For every successful person here who emigrated, there is an equal number of those who emigrated and failed. But you won't see such story's here. Because everyone wants to always paint a picture of success online.

I've not heard Ibime, afrodoc or dayo talk about any single challenge they might have encountered along the way, challenges which they might have successfully scaled through but which can sink others.

So please my brothers. You must be open-eyed. You must make a completely well researched decision before making that leap. Thank you.

Western economies are robust enough to absorb anyone with a good degree.

Failure will be if you didn't have funds to complete your studies, maybe you have inferiority complex or low self-belief that doesn't allow you to perform in interviews, or some people simply ran into mental health challenges and their parents recalled them home, or they were treated by the system here.

The above applies to education route japa which is the surest route.

Avoid countries with a parallel economy like Italy, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Cyprus, Malta, basically any Mediterranean country. Those guys will take Africans and pay them below minimum wage and the authorities don't care. Stick to UK, USA, Canada, Aussie, New Zealand, Nordic countries, Ireland, maybe Germany and France. If you study in an EU country like Czech and co, immediately find your way to Western Europe. All Japa are not equal.

Finesse007:


Tbh Nobody bought all those fables sha except market women,uneducated,Stan's and fanboys....na why I go still dey let Peterobi fanboys know say mehn,all those frugality,not corrupt bullshiit na agenda wey no fit fly

That is like 70% of the voting population

izzou:


The Elephant?

Do you deliberately just do evils or its default like Afrodoc on Mondays?


You want make Oyin commit suicide

seankafor:
Omo but truth be told, abroad fine shaa

My guy posted the so called village he stays in the Netherlands on his WhatsApp status some days ago and the beauty of this so called village can make you reconsider your options.


A village looking better than the ikoyi,trassaco and cocody of this continent.

izzou:


Of course, I agree with you.

But I didn't see where afrodoc agreed to that oh

I was the one that said there are many ways including Libya way.

For professionals with good qualifications, of course follow the legal route.

But for the rural, almajiri, or rugged type niggas with no qualifications, omo its better to be a pauper in Europe than to be a pauper in Nigeria.

The thing about abroad the anti-Js don't seem to get is that, there is always hope for something better here.

What's the point of living in Nigeria with no prospects, when it's nicer to live in Europe as a cleaner. Security guard, etc, and then you can put down roots for your future generations?

Godx:

very fine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex1IFzTS1FI

The irony is that this areas will pass as GRA in Ibadan,and as ikoyi in Lagos.

One of my chiefs left for Canny at the end of May. E no even tell anybody. Guyman take normal casual leave, next thing I see DM for Twitter with person wey dey shine teeth for Pearson Airport.
He is going to have to hustle his way into the system, as African medical degrees aren't accepted there, but whenever he talks with me he never fails To be bubbly despite the long road ahead. Why? Because of the system that works, and how his kids will be in it.


This is a family man who's at least 10 years older than I am. And you're telling me, a young single doctor to sit here and do what?


I agree not everyone can leave, but if you have the will and/or means, alaye as you're queuing for PVC, register for IELTS.

donjazet:


What do you say to this man who japa'd at all cost?

I dont think its right for them not to get paid

But if you are talking about the job? No one is above any job as long as you have bills to pay. There are people cleaning toilets in every country even in their fatherland

If thats where life put you at that moment, Then do it and plan to move to something bigger

You cant be new in a country and expect them to make you Managing director. Many successful immigrants did dirty jobs when they first got here

When I got here, students were not allowed to work, During one of the holidays one of my friends introduced me to a factory/warehouse job because most of the regular workers went for Thanksgiving. I did that job with excitement because they were paying us a time and half.

Neymar1095:
89% of the people on this thread will not still step out of Nigeria in their entire lifetime. That japa mentality is just to give themselves hope.

It's easy, very easy to sit in a 3rd-world country, without having ever flown outside of it and make uninformed comments about people trying to get a better life for themselves using a generator-powered phone...

How did he attack you abi you are on the heat again
You attack people's opinion shamelessly here and there

donjazet:


What do you say to this man who japa'd at all cost?

There are more Italians cleaning toilets sef so what you on about
I’m sure he didn’t go through study route as well
Lastly, Nigerians abroad even contribute more than majority back home.
I was surprised when I discovered my previous Nigerian Landlord built this school in his community where most of the kids go for free.
This dude came here with nothing and his story changed
Works for the state government in Australia and keeps climbing up the ladder.

iamoyindamola:
How did he attack you abi you are on the heat again
You attack people's opinion shamelessly here and there

You get time sef

nihilistjnr:


I was the one that said there are many ways including Libya way.

For professionals with good qualifications, of course follow the legal route.

But for the rural, almajiri, or rugged type niggas with no qualifications, omo its better to be a pauper in Europe than to be a pauper in Nigeria.

The thing about abroad the anti-Js don't seem to get is that, there is always hope for something better here.

What's the point of living in Nigeria with no prospects, when it's nicer to live in Europe as a cleaner. Security guard, etc, and then you can put down roots for your future generations?

Most of the younger Nigerians-Americans who grew up here, have Masters/PhD degrees and are enjoying every benefit here the parents sacrificed by doing all these cleaning jobs

I have an older colleague, His dad came to US in the 70s for Theology school and was to start a church here where he can get all his family a legal stay. After 2yrs the man left America in 1984 under the guise that he cannot be doing dirty man job as a big man. He went to Nigeria and became one Anglican church leader. but left his eldest son who was 14yrs behind with family friends and took the other 4 younger ones back to Naija

The 14yr old is now a big man in one company here, but the other ones in Naija one just got a visa to UK 3yrs ago, the other 3 have not been able to get visas and are stuck in their mid 40s. The father sef economy don change na that son wey dey Yankee dey build house, sed car to them in Nigeria

Unlimited22:
One of my chiefs left for Canny at the end of May. E no even tell anybody. Guyman take normal casual leave, next thing I see DM for Twitter with person wey dey shine teeth for Pearson Airport.
He is going to have to hustle his way into the system, as African medical degrees aren't accepted there, but whenever he talks with me he never fails To be bubbly despite the long road ahead. Why? Because of the system that works, and how his kids will be in it.


This is a family man who's at least 10 years older than I am. And you're telling me, a young single doctor to sit here and do what?


I agree not everyone can leave, but if you have the will and/or means, alaye as you're queuing for PVC, register for IELTS.

Met one Nigerian doctor who’s now a nurse here
The system frustrated him, now baba is enjoying life and planning his next move

Neymar1095:
I wonder why impoverished idiots will be announcing they want to japa, no one gives a shit, people travel everyday fool. People travel out and back everyday, but a poor desperate idiot will start abusing his country because he is traveling.

This one suppose get address

raumdeuter:


That is like 70% of the voting population

Because they fraustrate out the people who will vote right by election violence, thuggery,unnecessary stress and bottlenecks,sharing 2cups of rice and beans...

Unlimited22:
One of my chiefs left for Canny at the end of May. E no even tell anybody. Guyman take normal casual leave, next thing I see DM for Twitter with person wey dey shine teeth for Pearson Airport.
He is going to have to hustle his way into the system, as African medical degrees aren't accepted there, but whenever he talks with me he never fails To be bubbly despite the long road ahead. Why? Because of the system that works, and how his kids will be in it.


This is a family man who's at least 10 years older than I am. And you're telling me, a young single doctor to sit here and do what?


I agree not everyone can leave, but if you have the will and/or means, alaye as you're queuing for PVC, register for IELTS.

That word "MEANS" is the most important.

obainojazz:
Met one Nigerian doctor who’s now a nurse here
The system frustrated him, now baba is enjoying life and planning his next move

I like Oz. The only issue na say y'all are at the end of the world lmao

Also you're stingy with scholarships. European countries be like who dey find who go go school.


I saw one post on Twitter some days ago about a Canadian school whose entire LLM class were Nigerians.

donjazet:


What do you say to this man who japa'd at all cost?

To apply wisdom in every decision in life. I am a doctor and when i left Nigeria i went to first one country and then another that were known for the relative ease of assimilation of doctors into the system. I applied wisdom and left the country with a plan. I didn't allow a 17yr old living abroad to tell me to stay back and help Nigeria.

When people say japa they are not saying that you should wake up tomorrow and start looking for one perilous route to Afghanistan. You assess your education, work experience/skills, support system and plan both the timing and destination accordingly. A smart guy is already asking ib.ime questions about how to get into the UK.

What they are saying is that to improve your chances of having a good quality of life it might be a good idea to start planning your exit from Nigeria. For instance, rather than changing that your 2010 Camry to a newer model why not use that money to execute your Japa moves. Or minimize your spending in other ways for a year or two, see what you can save up.

The message is not for everybody. If you are educated, hard working, ambitious, amenable to a law-abiding lifestyle you can listen. If you are none of those things you can skip to the next message.

seankafor:
nigga you re a bastard..
If your papa say I scam him, make him come at me straight okay..

Pray say make u no jam person like me for your scam hustle.. na dat day your body go tell you

Omo x3

afrodoc2:


To apply wisdom in every decision in life. I am a doctor and when i left Nigeria i went to first one country and then another that were known for the relative ease of assimilation of doctors into the system. I applied wisdom and left the country with a plan. I didn't allow a 17yr old living abroad to tell me to stay back and help Nigeria.

When people say japa they are not saying that you should wake up tomorrow and start looking for one perilous route to Afghanistan. You assess your education, work experience/skills, support system and plan both the timing and destination accordingly. A smart guy is already asking ib.ime questions about how to get into the UK.

What they are saying is that to improve your chances of having a good quality of life it might be a good idea to start planning your exit from Nigeria. For instance, rather than changing that your 2010 Camry to a newer model why not use that money to execute your Japa moves. Or minimize your spending in other ways for a year or two, see what you can save up.

The message is not for everybody. If you are educated, hard working, ambitious, amenable to a law-abiding lifestyle you can listen. If you are none of those things you can skip to the next message.

One guy in US sef, if you heard his route to the US

Southie to Fiji to Australia to USA

Some na Malay to Europe to Canada to US.

It is never going to be easy going to a new country, but keep your eyes on the end goal

Ogbeche our mod here I remembered when he reached out to me on how to enter Europe, I directed him to ib-ime who lived in Europe. Now Ogbeche77 no send us for this forum again baba dey tell me say anytime I come Munich he go carry me go watch Bayern game on his dime

Thats someone that could have been in Nigeria now doing "Emi Lokan" Its my turn, Atiku one more time, Sai baba, etc

afrodoc2:


To apply wisdom in every decision in life. I am a doctor and when i left Nigeria i went to first one country and then another that were known for the relative ease of assimilation of doctors into the system. I applied wisdom and left the country with a plan. I didn't allow a 17yr old living abroad to tell me to stay back and help Nigeria.

When people say japa they are not saying that you should wake up tomorrow and start looking for one perilous route to Afghanistan. You assess your education, work experience/skills, support system and plan both the timing and destination accordingly. A smart guy is already asking ib.ime questions about how to get into the UK.

What they are saying is that to improve your chances of having a good quality of life it might be a good idea to start planning your exit from Nigeria. For instance, rather than changing that your 2010 Camry to a newer model why not use that money to execute your Japa moves. Or minimize your spending in other ways for a year or two, see what you can save up.

The message is not for everybody. If you are educated, hard working, ambitious, amenable to a law-abiding lifestyle you can listen. If you are none of those things you can skip to the next message.

Godx has been posting pictures of America up and down like its the only destination that exists.


Somebody will wake up and decide To go to Northern Cyprus, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Laos, and Nepal to 'hustle'

The inevitable will happen and said person will come online to be an anti-japa crusader. Lmao.

Unlimited22:

I like Oz. The only issue na say y'all are at the end of the world lmao

Also you're stingy with scholarships. European countries be like who dey find who go go school.


I saw one post on Twitter some days ago about a Canadian school whose entire LLM class were Nigerians.

As na Island country, they have a lot of control on people entering and they no want too much people.
But school is a sure route as long as one is willing to pay.

obainojazz:
As na Island country, they have a lot of control on people entering and they no want too much people.
But school is a sure route as long as one is willing to pay.

I no get that kind money

Thank God for Nordic countries and Germany

Honest question here, if that cow fulfilled his election pledges as to making 1$ = 1 naira, there was security, there is power at least 20hrs per day.....will Japa still look enticing?

obainojazz:
Met one Nigerian doctor who’s now a nurse here
The system frustrated him, now baba is enjoying life and planning his next move

What happened to the guy?

Finesse007:
Honest question here, if that cow fulfilled his election pledges as to making 1$ = 1 naira, there was security, there is power at least 20hrs per day.....will Japa still look enticing?

If Liverpool plays in Nigerian league do you think Salah will stay?

Expecting Naira to be $1 is as silly as Expecting Liverpool to play in Nigeria league

There are some factors affecting all these things that are beyond anyone even Barack Obama if he becomes president

afrodoc2:


To apply wisdom in every decision in life. I am a doctor and when i left Nigeria i went to first one country and then another that were known for the relative ease of assimilation of doctors into the system. I applied wisdom and left the country with a plan. I didn't allow a 17yr old living abroad to tell me to stay back and help Nigeria.

When people say japa they are not saying that you should wake up tomorrow and start looking for one perilous route to Afghanistan. You assess your education, work experience/skills, support system and plan both the timing and destination accordingly. A smart guy is already asking ib.ime questions about how to get into the UK.

What they are saying is that to improve your chances of having a good quality of life it might be a good idea to start planning your exit from Nigeria. For instance, rather than changing that your 2010 Camry to a newer model why not use that money to execute your Japa moves. Or minimize your spending in other ways for a year or two, see what you can save up.

The message is not for everybody. If you are educated, hard working, ambitious, amenable to a law-abiding lifestyle you can listen. If you are none of those things you can skip to the next message.

Good points, nobody is against people emigrating, I've said it a million times, but going back a few pages, you see lots of comments emphasizing to LEAVE AT ALL COSTS

Those who will be influenced by such hyperboles are the ones I'm addressing. Someone said even if it's by road or the Libyan way, all way na way. That doesn't sound like someone who wants to sit down and plan better. Those are the targets of this message.

I say again, most of you are highlighting the positives, none of you are warning about potential dangers too. Dangers that make promising girls fall into hands of human traffickers. Or emigrants who were somehow failed by those systems there.

You are sharing anecdotes of successful people you know. Are you saying you don't know any anecdotes of people who fell hard after they tried.
Haven't you heard of people deported, people who spent all their live savings there and fell flat on their face?

Every message must be balanced. Give a balanced view, don't fill people with the euphoria of the positives without highlighting the negatives.

afrodoc2:


What happened to the guy?

Abia state government owed him salary for months, then he met my landlord back then and that’s how he started his Australia journey.