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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by MichaelUde: 7:24am On Jun 15, 2022 |
TheGuyFromHR:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10860793/More-million-foreign-nationals-offered-visas-live-UK-year.html Not quite sure what to think about this refugee issue, to be frank, I don't really think the UK will ever send anyone to Rwanda. In Manchester when you see all those curly hair people hanging out and making noise in Piccadilly Gardens (are they Somalis abi Eritreans/Ethiopians?), I feel both sympathetic and annoyed at the same time, because while I fully understand they are refugees and have gone through a lot, but I get the feeling that oyibo dey use dem measure all black people at the same level. I tend to agree with the bolded, but its difficult moral ground. The UK response to the Ukraine thing was obviously somehow unfair - we go take our "own" people with no stress - they opened the doors wide, dash them benefits and everything for 3 years, people come dey halla Home Office for delaying their visas, etc., etc., something that of course no other non-oyibo country fit get. On the other hand, can you really blame them for the discrimination? Difficult conundrum. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by rayralph(m): 7:25am On Jun 15, 2022 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by MichaelUde: 7:26am On Jun 15, 2022 |
Alexia20: Then go ahead and do that. I cant remember the options I had when filling my form, but I do remember that I listed my own brother who lives here. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Teenwa: 7:50am On Jun 15, 2022 |
Dear gurus,please assist with this pending question . Please for someone going to University of Northampton and moving with family,what other cities or areas are close to Northampton that one can reside considering job opportunities and fair cost of living. Your guidance will be appreciated. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Alexia20: 7:52am On Jun 15, 2022 |
MichaelUde:Thanks I will go ahead and do so as advised . |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by tushqueen(f): 8:19am On Jun 15, 2022 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by rayralph(m): 9:14am On Jun 15, 2022 |
Studio apartment is available at PA2 at £299 PCM 10 minutes walk to UWS, Ideal for UWS students, paisley (2 occupants max) Send a pm 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Estroller: 9:50am On Jun 15, 2022 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by engrrichie92(m): 9:51am On Jun 15, 2022 |
What are the fun places to visit in the UK? Been here one month and is been kinda boring Maybe because my wife is not here yet sha |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by hustla(m): 11:04am On Jun 15, 2022 |
engrrichie92: Google maps will show you good places to visit |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by lightnlife: 11:50am On Jun 15, 2022 |
Migration is grossly a political matter in the 21st century. Understanding this helps to wave through interest blocks and sentimental policies. The politics and hypocrisy of migration have been seen in the UK-Ukraine, Hong-Kong cases and lots more. It's all about interests and alignments. Most of the 'Rwandan migrants' are simply irregular economic migrants and do not qualify for refugee status or asylum in the UK, having violated the principle of 'First Safe Country' as stipulated in The Global Compact on Refugees. The UK has only been magnanimous, perhaps political, with this case hence the consideration to transfer them to Rwanda. Countries like Germany, Italy, Spain and France, won't have prolonged their deportation to their home countries ASAP. In this case, UK and Rwanda are benefitting off this relocation...It seems business isn't going on as planned. Guess what! Most of those irregular migrants pay so much to risk their lives and options. Some pay smugglers up to 20,000 pounds to get in. Needless to say, it's often a long dreadful journey of luck. Just to state this: most of the recent irregular arrivals are not Africans but largely from the Middle East and Asia. Irregular economic migrants/migration would always attract emotions but emotions don't inform the most logical and productive results. So, I understand the feeling you get when you see those irregular African migrants in your hood. But like you mentioned it is unfair to other Africans who have gone through the proper immigration process, plus, the sweeping generalisation and public outlook that most, if not all, black people in this country are irregular migrants and doing nothing to improve the system is also demeaning of the continent and race. Since BREXIT, data shows that net migration into the UK has reduced. However, immigration into the UK from non-EU countries has increased. Most of the non-EU immigrants have been skilled workers and the UK has been benefitting from this. My take: irregular 'economic' migration should be discouraged on all fronts by strict policy measures and not emotional inflexions. Even less developed African countries are constantly putting measures in place to check irregular migration, how much more developed countries. MichaelUde: 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by giselle237: 12:17pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Alexia20:someone was refused visa under section 320 what what for same situation. She didnt see sister listed there. And therfore did not mention… this was her story.. HO found out and said she witheld information and got 10 years ban. Said she employed deceit. Family is family. If they are paying 100,000 pounds to family members and this was same form you were given to fill, you will argue to last breath that brother is family(which is true) and will by all means include his information there. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Harlem22: 12:45pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Hi everyone, i need your opinion and advice,i just finished Msc artificial intelligence/data science (conversion course) from a university in uk, I didn't have a background knowledge before this course , so it was more of me switching career, but i gained few knowledge during the course, still struggling but I'll like to develop myself enough to put myself out there to get a job, what advice will you give? Where do i start from? Thank you everyone |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by MrWood: 12:48pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
MichaelUde: Curly hair people making noise? Really? Do nigerians not make noise? And what do you think brits think of a group of nigerians making noise?? You would cry if you know what they think of that. Finally, you are annoyed at refugees that have the same color as you? Patriotic fanaticism to an adopted country is the height of inferiority complex. very rich of you I must say, especially coming from a Nigerian. We think of ourselves more than what we really are internationally. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by MichaelUde: 2:02pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
MrWood: Very uninformed and ill-judged comment. Failure to read and understand shines through all you wrote. Firstly, my comment was in response to someone else who said he's clearly against illegal immigrants, because their coming can spoil things for the rest of us who came legally, with reference to US-style extemism. I agreed with that. How you extrapolated that into "Patriotic fanaticism to an adopted country" is beyond me. That's a very biased reading of that comment, one which goes so far as to make it seem as if the writer was taking it personally. Secondly, I clearly said (go back and read my comment, something you very clearly failed to do before jumping in with both feet) that I have much sympathy for refugees and am not very keen on this Rwandan thing, but I understand how their continued coming is not ideal, before the extremists vex and start carrying guns. All the more so when I see lots of young men standing around in groups, playing, talking loudly at the tops of their voices, ostensibly doing nothing in the middle of the day, I wish they would not make themselves so visible, because looking at it from a possible oyibo man's extremist standpoint, it is not hard to see that they would think these are illegal boat people, happily doing nothing and feeding off their taxes and chopping benefits at government expense, whether or not that is actually the case. And lastly I dont see how you got that I as a Nigerian think I'm better than other Africans. That is utterly crazy, goodness knows where you got that from. I mentioned the fact that a lot of the young men in question appeared to be from a racial sub-group, which I as an African can identify, to most oyibos all of us are the same. I mentioned that in passing, not from any pejorative standpoint, but now you mention it, I don't think Nigerians or other African water-crossers generally stand around hanging about in the day time because they are better than other Africans, but simply because given that the average Nigerian can speak some English and many illegal immigrants turn up here because they already have some family or some connection in the UK in the first place, I think that when Nigerians or maybe others land here, they find their way into underground work sharp sharp, and something that the Eritreans or Ethiopians might not find as easy to do if their English is poor to non-existent. Next time, learn to read before you comment. I won't discuss this further, waste of time in this case. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by MichaelUde: 2:17pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
lightnlife: This. Correct man. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by adegbitetunji(m): 3:41pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Shine some light on “curly hair folks making noise part” because that statement is just totally unfortunate!! MichaelUde: 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Nobody: 3:59pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Ayowolebami: This is false. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by dustydee: 5:46pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
The subtle racism on this thread na wah o. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 6:09pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
MichaelUde: The people I think you're referring to are mainly Somalians and Eritreans, I believe, people from the Horn of Africa. You're right, they are a visible sort of group in Manchester sometimes, and this is because the HO uses or used to use Manchester [and Glasgow too] as dispersal locations for refugees, so many ended up settling there while others might be waiting for their situations to be sorted. In their defence, asylum seekers are not allowed to work, so perhaps coming out every day to hang around and make noise in the park is the only thing they can do with themselves until their situation is resolved, but I see your point about how that can be open to a different interpretation. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by erico2k2(m): 6:35pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by erico2k2(m): 6:44pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
claremont:well we all are not here as economic migrants, there are some who are visiting and others schooling and will go back. However if you look at the bigger picture this plane is not about taking people to Rwanda no one is going the Brits know this however, the law is going to leave this process open the backlash to this is simple, anyone who comes fru the river gets taken to a processing centre to be removed to Rwanda. Implication no one will allow themselves to be caught , immigrant will disappear into underground/black economy as they do in the continent and hustle. Job done the Uk save money in housing them treating them and paying for benefit. These guys at the HO have been thinking bout this for ages, now they are going to amend that small gray line that allowed that night judge in the Eu to overrule this and the whole plan will unveil, no one is going to get on a plane but no one can go claim benefit of any sort, This will make the Uk less attractive, 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Odedenshi1(m): 6:45pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Estroller: Kindly check if the Eagle has landed as I have fulfilled my part of the deal… |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by erico2k2(m): 6:47pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
TheGuyFromHR:That guy you quoted has not got kids who need two buses to get to school or waited 7 hours in AnE hence his statement bout who are you |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by TheGuyFromHR: 6:56pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
erico2k2: Night judge, lol. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Estroller: 7:03pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Odedenshi1: Thank you, eagle don land, how you make I send your share. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by erico2k2(m): 7:39pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
TheGuyFromHR:yep it was a Night Judge cos courts closes 430pm this guy was up till 9pm in the Eu and funny thing is, that was how the BBC reported it ahahah |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Odedenshi1(m): 8:45pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Estroller: Respond to your PM so I fit send my detail’s across. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by wanney: 9:00pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Dear Gurus, I need assistance on how to answer the question (in UK context) - are you interviewing elsewhere? is it a good idea to say yes or no? and why do recruiters always ask the question 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 9:03pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
Teenwa:Milton Keynes, Birmingham, Coventry are all close to Northampton. As per fair cost of living, that’s very relative. The influx of students have increased the cost of rent in most of these areas including Northampton. You can also explore the option of working remote as a customer service rep. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by claremont(m): 9:10pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
lightnlife: My views on immigration (and most things in general) is pretty biased mainly because I'm hard left wing, politically. I keep on hearing people make the emboldened comment. It simply isn't true. There is no such principle in the 1951 UN Refugee convention. Refugees are allowed to apply for asylum in any country they deem fit regardless of the number of countries they have passed along the way. https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/ 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 9:19pm On Jun 15, 2022 |
During your MSc, did you work on 'real life' / 'real life-like' project(s). Those are your starter pack portfolio. Secondly, what career path were you before. Try to apply AI/DS/ML principle to any of your previous engagement. Remember, having worked in this domain before, you are more or less an 'oracle' / subject matter expert in that domain. Try to set up a GitHub profile as repository for your 'original' AI/DS projects (codes) and LinkedIn/Medium to write about them (high level) There are many ways to get by. You may start with these. Harlem22: 1 Like |
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