[quote author=FERNANDEZISBACK post=113943856]You forgot that not everyone is gonna swallow your bible book teaching huh?

^{What demons are you even talking about..?if they go the masturbation way..you folks complain..they indulge in safe sex you still complain..}

Having sex before marriage is not a sin...People & religion have made sex before marriage a sin...There is nothing wrong with people having sex before marriage..


You will repeat this erroneous statement when ALL your girls get pregnant through consensual premarital sex while they're in JSS 3.
Come back that time and spew "... there is nothing wrong with people having sex before marriage."
Many of you don't think deeply and reflect about consequences before rushing to talk and comment.

Gospel2Day:


Your definition of sin is incorrect or incomplete.
You left God The Creator out of your definition.
Sin is disregard, disrespect and disobedience to God and His commands.
Only God gets to decide and define what Sin is.
Sin hurts and angers God first before it affects fellow humans.
And God has threatened in the Bible that All Sinners who wilfully continue in their sins and refuse to repent and change their ways shall have their endless everlasting future in torment and torture in the Lake of Fire.
Shalom.

There are over 4,000 religions on earth with different religious books and version of God.


So which of them is the right one?


Mind you, if you were born in China, the possibility of you being an atheist is 80%.



Children indoctrination is truly evil.

Youngzedd:



There are over 4,000 religions on earth with different religious books and version of God.


So which of them is the right one?


Mind you, if you were born in China, the possibility of you being an atheist is 80%.



Children indoctrination is truly evil.

What is truly evil is your indoctrination that out of the 4,000 religions there is NOT ONE that is the TRUE ONE.
You really do not want to know, research, study and investigate with the intent to finding the True God and His True Religion.
Instead of doing that, you are bragging and basking in your ignorance.
It won't be long before you stand trembling in trepidation before The Creator God Who will judge you as either fit or unfit for His Eternal Abode of Bliss based on what you did while alive on earth with the Gift of Eternal Life and forgiveness that the Death and Resurrection of His Holy Son Jesus made available and obtainable to you.
Jesus saves.
Jesus is Lord.
Shalom.

Akakanfirstclass:
abstinence from sex isn't easy..

in the bible time, people get married from 16.
becoz when God instructed that sex should only be practiced in marriage, he knew that at teenage age konji Don set in..
my biological father is 64 and he got married at 22,

today I am 24 and I can't even imagine my self getting married in 5yrs time becoz things have change (asin the economy).
it takes longer time for a man to be established in this generation that the previous ones..

now assuming sex is food, Ur father says everyone should fast from 6a.m to 6pm knowing that Ur body will later need to eat naturally, but in this generation, we are fasting too long and can't hold anymore becoz the resources to get married isn't available..
what we need to pray for is mercies and Grace to be established and marry the right person early..
becoz to be honest, abstinence from sex isn't easy

Sometimes when people just gives rules without understanding they create more sinners than saints.....
You will never hear them encourage marriage mba since we are in a consumerism culture.....
Paul said if you can not hold marry..... Celibacy is not by force ... There's already a system to prevent this to the barest minimum but we deceive ourselves too much in this generation....
Most religious leaders know people have a strong tendency to get it wrong in this aspect even if they're not seeing anyone comiting fornication on the street....
The bible that say "flee" didn't stop there it also said "follow" there's no vacuum ....
But you hear this religious guys emphasing on the flee part.....
We already have a sexualized generation already in great need for redemption....
And stop threatening people with curses.....
The world is not as Just as you think...

bepositive11:


The difference is that Americans think out of the box. They don't base everything on religion. Nigerian on the other hand quote the Bible for everything. In fact, they don't have logical reasoning only Bible reasoning

looooooooooool Oga stop shifting the goal post... Who told you Christians don't reason logically?

Gospel2Day:


What is truly evil is your indoctrination that out of the 4,000 religions there is NOT ONE that is the TRUE ONE.
You really do not want to know, research, study and investigate with the intent to finding the True God and His True Religion.
Instead of doing that, you are bragging and basking in your ignorance.
It won't be long before you stand trembling in trepidation before The Creator God Who will judge you as either fit or unfit for His Eternal Abode of Bliss based on what you did while alive on earth with the Gift of Eternal Life and forgiveness that the Death and Resurrection of His Holy Son Jesus made available and obtainable to you.
Jesus saves.
Jesus is Lord.
Shalom.

If you were born into a Hindu or Muslim family, would you have said this?

This is coming late anyway but,
The safe sex people talk about does not implies that sex with condom isn't fornication, they are only talking about preventing pregnancy and STDs.
I expected to see on this thread that even with condom, the sex may still not be safe in terms of preventing pregnancy or diseases but rather saw something very different.
I'm a Christian but the thread topic does not align with the context. Should be changed

DeJuliet22:
Sex aside marriage should be widely condemned.
No nomenclature can make it acceptable before the sight of God.

You are a foool.

Gospel2Day:


What is truly evil is your indoctrination that out of the 4,000 religions there is NOT ONE that is the TRUE ONE.

Why just one though? Does it not occur to you that ALL represent the thoughts of mere mortal men and are thus imperfect, while containing strands of truth?

Jesus saves.
Jesus is Lord.
Shalom.

What about Muhammad? Does he not save, he is not lord? What about the Buddha. What about Vishnu or Shiva. What about Confucius. What about Zoroaster. What about Mithras. What about Abd Ru Shin. What about Guru Maharaji. What about Olumba Olumba Obu.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
You forgot that not everyone is gonna swallow your bible book teaching huh?

^{[/b]What demons[b] are you even talking about..?if they go the masturbation way..you folks complain..they indulge in safe sex you still complain..}

Having sex before marriage is not a sin...People & religion have made sex before marriage a sin...There is nothing wrong with people having sex before marriage..

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Sleeping with someone you're not married to is very wrong. The Bible explains it by saying "He who sleeps with a prostitute is one with her" and that's where the "Demons" angle comes in.

Anytime you have sex; a part of you is deposited in that person you slept with and a part of her is also deposited in you. So if the person you slept with had a bad omen; then you'll start experiencing bad luck in anything you do... If she's a prostitute and you both made out then you have no right to judge her anymore because you're now 1flesh with her.

The more you keep sleeping around when you're not yet married; the more your sex life and self control gets weaker & weaker which will then create lots of problems for you in your marriage(e.g You become unsatisfied when making love with your wife/husband, you begin to compare him/her with others you've slept with, you then start looking outside due to unsatisfaction & lack of self control. Which will result in conflict and divorce).

When you sleep with someone you're not married to; you're taking what's not yours which is a sin & you'll pay for it dearly. Don't let peer pressure influence you, many fornicators today always wish they didn't get involved in it in the 1st place. They're living a complicated life, some have contracted STIs, STDs, HIV/AIDS, some are emaciating because of depression & guilt yet they'll wear baggy outfits to cover it up and you'll think they're living a happy life for the decision they took. They're not happy but they'll not tell you, instead they'll sugarcoat that "fornication is very nice" because they had no one to advise them when they fell into that pit, so they'll gladly clap for you when you're walking into it.

Fornication is very bad � and marriage will not change you.

DeepSight:


Why just one though? Does it not occur to you that ALL represent the thoughts of mere mortal men and are thus imperfect, while containing strands of truth?



What about Muhammad? Does he not save, he is not lord? What about the Buddha. What about Vishnu or Shiva. What about Confucius. What about Zoroaster. What about Mithras. What about Abd Ru Shin. What about Guru Maharaji. What about Olumba Olumba Obu.

If you do not want to sincerely and seriously seek and find The One True and Living Creator God now, you will find answers to all your questions after you die, when you stand before His Throne to be judged.
Before that terrible moment, it is my hope and prayers that you accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.
Shalom.

Youngzedd:



If you were born into a Hindu or Muslim family, would you have said this?

Plenty many Hindus and Muslims have left the religion they're born into and embrace Jesus.
There's one in Britain who met Jesus right in Mecca. As he worshiped, Jesus appeared by his side right there in Islam most holy place, and told him that Islam is not the religion of God. That He, Jesus, is the Saviour and the Only way to Heaven.
May you too experience Him.
Shalom.

Gospel2Day:


Plenty many Hindus and Muslims have left the religion they're born into and embrace Jesus.
There's one in Britain who met Jesus right in Mecca. As he worshiped, Jesus appeared by his side right there in Islam most holy place, and told him that Islam is not the religion of God. That He, Jesus, is the Saviour and the Only way to Heaven.
May you too experience Him.
Shalom.

Many have also left Christianity to other regions, some became atheists.

It's a two way thing.

[quote author=Youngzedd post=113981769]


Many have also left Christianity to other regions, some became atheists.

It's a two way thing.

Did a Divine Being appear to those who left Christianity?
Does the spiritual deity of Hinduism and Islam empower their adherents to perform healing miracles consistently over the centuries like the Divine God of Christianity?
Mention just one religion that comes close to the Christian Faith in the manifestation of the miraculous.
The difference is crystal clear.
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one will ever see the Father God, except through Jesus.
Choose Him now before it is too late.
Shalom.

Gospel2Day:


If you do not want to sincerely and seriously seek and find The One True and Living Creator God now, you will find answers to all your questions after you die, when you stand before His Throne to be judged.
Before that terrible moment, it is my hope and prayers that you accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.
Shalom.

Go fvck yourself with your sickening blackmail.

DeepSight:


Go fvck yourself with your sickening blackmail.

Your abusive response only reveals the sad truth that Satan has abused your lost soul with sins.
I'm not mad at you.
I only pity you.
May you find peace with God through Jesus?
That's when you will have peace with your fellow humans, and you won't be using dirty words to abuse them.
Jesus loves you.
Shalom.

Gospel2Day:
Did a Divine Being appear to those who left Christianity?
Does the spiritual deity of Hinduism and Islam empower their adherents to perform healing miracles consistently over the centuries like the Divine God of Christianity?
Mention just one religion that comes close to the Christian Faith in the manifestation of the miraculous.
The difference is crystal clear.
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one will ever see the Father God, except through Jesus.
Choose Him now before it is too late.
Shalom.

Lol


Fake testimonies your GOs are arranging all the time.



If you want to see real life testimony, go and study about Japan which isn't a Christian nation, there you will see evidence of God.


Look around Nigeria, where is the evidence of God?

"But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love." - 1 John 4:8

4 churches in every street, yet so much poverty and wickedness.



Religion is just a man trying to understand the supreme being, yet they can only know little.

Are you aware that Israel isn't a Christian nation? Only about 2% of the population are Christians, think about it.


There are over 4,000 religions on earth and the creator of the universe got no religion. Let it sink.

DeepSight:


Go fvck yourself with your sickening blackmail.

My brother the way these so called Christians blackmail and threaten others to accept their fairy tales is annoying - Accept Jesus or you will suffer after death. The same Jesus that his people and everywhere else he went refuse to accept.
It seems its conquered and enslaved people of Africa and South America that have adopted Jesus as their own.

Youngzedd:



Lol


Fake testimonies your GOs are arranging all the time.



If you want to see real life testimony, go and study about Japan which isn't a Christian nation, there you will see evidence of God.


Look around Nigeria, where is the evidence of God?

"But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love." - 1 John 4:8

4 churches in every street, yet so much poverty and wickedness.



Religion is just a man trying to understand the supreme being, yet they can only know little.

Are you aware that Israel isn't a Christian nation? Only about 2% of the population are Christians, think about it.


There are over 4,000 religions on earth and the creator of the universe got no religion. Let it sink.

Any country that wants to develop must first of all jettison religion. Europe that was the bastion of Christianity for close to 2 millenia has to abandon Christianity and entered the age of reason before they started developing. China under chairman Mao had to abandon over 3 centuries of religion before China started on the road to development. Same with Japan and Korea. For Africa to start on the road to development and stop being the problem child of the world, we need to abandon these two Religions- Christianity and Islam.

China, an officially atheist nation just launched its 3 aircraft carrier. -
https://www.nairaland.com/7183203/fujian-china-launches-third-aircraft

What has Jesus and Mohammed that you guys expend 80% of your time and energy worshipping helped helped you build? Ordinary electricity power stations they cannot not help you build. You rely on these same Chinese for all your consumer product to live a meaningful life. Are you guys not ashamed of yourselves?

kals4luv990:
we are dividing
No 2 ways abt it..the signs are there

What God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

jesusjnr2020:
What God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

was it a different God that separated Isreal in the time of Solomon?
Baba stop talking trash..Nigeria is finished

Youngzedd:



Lol


Fake testimonies your GOs are arranging all the time.



If you want to see real life testimony, go and study about Japan which isn't a Christian nation, there you will see evidence of God.


Look around Nigeria, where is the evidence of God?

"But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love." - 1 John 4:8

4 churches in every street, yet so much poverty and wickedness.



Religion is just a man trying to understand the supreme being, yet they can only know little.

Are you aware that Israel isn't a Christian nation? Only about 2% of the population are Christians, think about it.


There are over 4,000 religions on earth and the creator of the universe got no religion. Let it sink.

Why did you mention only Japan?
Why not include Christian nations in North and South America?
Did you know that the party of Angela Merkel, the immediate past Chancellor of Germany is called Christian Democratic Party? She governed Germany for over 15 years.
Did you know that Germany is the biggest economy in Europe?
So, it hypocritical of you to pick Nigeria as your example to bash Christianity.
Brazil is the most religious nation on earth, followed by Nigeria
Is Brazil not a developed country?
You religion bashers have one thing in common - hypocrisy, ignorance and hatred for God.
Humble yourself and seek God's forgiveness and put your faith in Jesus.
That's your only escape from roasting forever in everlasting Lake of Hellish Fire.
Shalom.

kals4luv990:
was it a different God that separated Isreal in the time of Solomon?
Baba stop talking trash..Nigeria is finished

It's a good thing you said it was God who did that not man, so that agrees with what I said, because if God didn't do that, no man could separate Israel.

Moreover then God told His prophets His plan before He separated Israel. Now God has told His prophets that Nigeria is going to be great again not separated.

So what God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

Gospel2Day:

Why did you mention only Japan?
Why not include Christian nations in North and South America?
Did you know that the party of Angela Merkel, the immediate past Chancellor of Germany is called Christian Democratic Party? She governed Germany for over 15 years.
Did you know that Germany is the biggest economy in Europe?
So, it hypocritical of you to pick Nigeria as your example to bash Christianity.
Brazil is the most religious nation on earth, followed by Nigeria
Is Brazil not a developed country?
You religion bashers have one thing in common - hypocrisy, ignorance and hatred for God.
Humble yourself and seek God's forgiveness and put your faith in Jesus.
That's your only escape from roasting forever in everlasting Lake of Hellish Fire.
Shalom.

In 2002, sex education became mandatory in every state in Germany. Sex education is essential for children and teenagers. Not only do they need to be aware of human reproduction, but they need to understand how to lead a responsible and mindful sex life

What does the Christian Democratic Party believe in?
The Christian Democratic Party's policies derive from political Catholicism, Catholic social teaching and political Protestantism as well as economic liberalism and national conservatism.

Brazil is like the USA with the settlers from Portugal.

The two countries above are an extension of the Roman Empire which is still ruling the world till today and is the Kingdom in Daniel before God's Kingdom will appear.

The Nigerian system is not based on Catholicism which Germany is based on and Brazil's Roman Catholics are (64.4%).

The developed countries are developed because their great scientists have access to the spirit world for technology. But the the spirit world Nigerian has access to is not for technology.

Now take a look at what is under the Vatican which is the headquarters of Catholicism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGmW71sWetI

Gospel2Day:


Why did you mention only Japan?
Why not include Christian nations in North and South America?
Did you know that the party of Angela Merkel, the immediate past Chancellor of Germany is called Christian Democratic Party? She governed Germany for over 15 years.
Did you know that Germany is the biggest economy in Europe?
So, it hypocritical of you to pick Nigeria as your example to bash Christianity.
Brazil is the most religious nation on earth, followed by Nigeria
Is Brazil not a developed country?
You religion bashers have one thing in common - hypocrisy, ignorance and hatred for God.
Humble yourself and seek God's forgiveness and put your faith in Jesus.
That's your only escape from roasting forever in everlasting Lake of Hellish Fire.
Shalom.

Most Germans find religion unimportant, survey shows >> https://m.dw.com/en/most-germans-find-religion-unimportant-survey-shows/a-59270443

Eastern Germany: the most godless place on Earth >> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/22/atheism-east-germany-godless-place


Most Atheist Countries 2022 >> https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-atheist-countries


Christian churches in sharp decline in Germany >> https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/christian-churches-in-sharp-decline-in-germany/1468371#





Yahushua Hamashiach I know, Jesus (your sl@ve master's god) I don't know.


So it's now wrong to use Nigeria you're living as a case study .

Youngzedd:


Most Germans find religion unimportant, survey shows >> https://m.dw.com/en/most-germans-find-religion-unimportant-survey-shows/a-59270443

Eastern Germany: the most godless place on Earth >> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/22/atheism-east-germany-godless-place


Most Atheist Countries 2022 >> https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-atheist-countries


Christian churches in sharp decline in Germany >> https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/christian-churches-in-sharp-decline-in-germany/1468371#





Yahushua Hamashiach I know, Jesus (your sl@ve master's god) I don't know.


So it's now wrong to use Nigeria you're living as a case study .

So you agree that a Christian Political Party governed Germany for close to two decades?
Your hypocrisy is hilarious.
Jesus saves.
Shalom.

Deborah98:
it's the why seek ye for me ... How do you guys read and comprehend what King James says. That version of the Bible dey give me headache buy surprisingly most people prefer it cos it gives a more detailed first hand information.

Actually,majority of those who read that translation don't infact comprehend what written in it as they wouldn't be preaching falsehoods left and right in blindness now would they?

Also, King James version does not give more detailed first hand information, as you wrongly assume. It gives the very same information that is presented to you in the other versions.

MindHacker9009:


In 2002, sex education became mandatory in every state in Germany. Sex education is essential for children and teenagers. Not only do they need to be aware of human reproduction, but they need to understand how to lead a responsible and mindful sex life

What does the Christian Democratic Party believe in?
The Christian Democratic Party's policies derive from political Catholicism, Catholic social teaching and political Protestantism as well as economic liberalism and national conservatism.

Brazil is like the USA with the settlers from Portugal.

The two countries above are an extension of the Roman Empire which is still ruling the world till today and is the Kingdom in Daniel before God's Kingdom will appear.

The Nigerian system is not based on Catholicism which Germany is based on and Brazil's Roman Catholics are (64.4%).

The developed countries are developed because their great scientists have access to the spirit world for technology. But the the spirit world Nigerian has access to is not for technology.

Now take a look at what is under the Vatican which is the headquarters of Catholicism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGmW71sWetI

You are deviating from the premise of our argument.
You picked atheistic Japan to rubbish religion in Nigeria.
I pointed you to religious nations that are superpowers.
Christianity and Islam are the dominant religions in Nigeria.
So why is Islam not causing backwardness in UAE and Qatar and Kuwait?
Google Christian scientists in Europe and America.
Did you know that Isaac Newton was a genuine Christian?
To put it simply, NEVER pick Nigeria to argue the impact of religion on civilization and society.
Nigeria is an abnormality, an absurdity that defies explanation.
So, don't use it as a case study at all.
Shalom.

Post Script: Let me quickly add that Catholicism is NOT Christianity.
Catholicism is satanism.
I can't delve into details here.
When Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity in AD 313, almost all Romans joined the church with him as a sign of allegiance, including Roman pagan priests.
They, however, didn't fully drop their satanic pagan worship and practices but adapted and incorporated them into Christianity.
If you read the Book of Revelation in the Bible you will see the Scarlet woman sitting on a city on seven hills, depicting Roman Catholic Church.
Only two cities in the world sit atop seven hills, Rome in Italy and Constantinople in present day Turkiye.
The two cities became the headquarters of Western church and Eastern Orthodox church.
When you understand this history and mystery (secret) of Roman papacy, your faith in the Bible will become rock hard and unshaken.
You mentioned the decline of Christianity in Europe and elsewhere.
That was all prophesied. It is still confirming the veracity and validity of the Bible.
Shalom.

Gospel2Day:


So you agree that a Christian Political Party governed Germany for close to two decades?
Your hypocrisy is hilarious.
Jesus saves.
Shalom.

Take a look >> https://face2faceafrica.com/article/how-englands-first-slave-trader-lured-africans-on-his-jesus-ship-and-sold-them-into-slavery12

Youngzedd:



Take a look >> https://face2faceafrica.com/article/how-englands-first-slave-trader-lured-africans-on-his-jesus-ship-and-sold-them-into-slavery12

You can't use what an individual did to judge a religion.
Was Judas not a disciple of Jesus?
Does his act of betrayal define and describe all Christians?
Stop all this uncivilised method of arguing.
It does not make you appear mature and sincere.
Check my earlier reply. I added a post script just now. You need the info.
Shalom.

Youngzedd:
1. What exactly is a sin and who choose what a sin is and what a sin isn't? Mind you, what maybe a sin in Christianity may not be a sin in other religions.

2.To me, a sin is what you do to intentionally hurt another. Jealousy and selfish ambition is more dangerous than two adults enjoying themselves.

3. To an average Nigerian Christian, the only thing they recognise as a sin is sex.

Sin is transgression/disobedience of God's direct commandment as stated in His Law where sin is clearly defined for all those who believe.

2. Your personal ideas in regards to sin mean nothing where the next man is concerned since you don't have right to impose your rules on others. However, to those who believe in God, sin is defined for them by God, in His Law, Jesus Christ.

3. Sex isn't even defined as sin in God's Law, Jesus Christ. Instead, what is sin is lust in one's heart after a woman. Sadly, most so-called Nigerian Christian don't know the Law let alone what is sin and what isn't according to the Christian Standard which is Jesus Christ.