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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 11:07am On Jun 21, 2022
FireTheSun:


You have put it, as best as no one could.
FREEDOM, ON-DEMAND, COST SAVINGS.
Solar is supposed to pay for itself over a long time, but with the high cost of energy (Gas, Electricity, Fuel) and the incessant grid collapse of our Country, Solar is paying for itself in even shorter time than was predicted (averagely 15yrs)

Is there anyone in the House who knows about conversion of Petrol Engine to Electric ?
My problem is how to convert my Petrol Car Engines to run on Electric (not looking to buy off the shelf Electric Vehicles).
Like we did for home use, l want to be able to use flexible (and even if not flexible) Solar Panels on the Roof of my car and let it harness juice when l park it in the Sun. I also want to be able to load the bot with LifePo4 cells, as much as l want.

I have heard snippets of people who convert Petrol Engines to use Gas or even turn it to EV but there is a serious knowledge gap on how to do it.
Na so e dey take start o, fertile minds on this thread should please roll it over in their minds.


you are better off, buying an electric car, or building one from scratch. converting a petrol vehicle to electric car..will end up costing more, as you only need the carbody, the engine, transmission aka gearbox, ecm aka brainbosdrive shaft etc are useless.

this is similar to attempting to convert a 2wd SUV to 4wd. an exercise in futility. attempting to convert a petrol vehicle to electric is even worse exercise in futility raised to power 5!.

max panel you can put on the roof of the car is about 900watss, even at max efficiency, you are looking at generating 4500watthour daily, which is a drop compared to the energy requirements of an EV

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by felaliveson: 11:41am On Jun 21, 2022
Gurus in the house, pls what type of battery brand/size and Type of solar panel can N100k buy for an office space to power 32” Tv and decoder? (Inverter available)
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Valto(m): 11:55am On Jun 21, 2022
felaliveson:
Gurus in the house, pls what type of battery brand/size and Type of solar panel can N100k buy for an office space to power 32” Tv and decoder? (Inverter available)
non. u need atleast 200k and above
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 1:50pm On Jun 21, 2022
earthrealm:



and even if you analyse it thoroughly, solar/renewable energy is far cheaper than running gens and even grid. most solar setups pay for itself after 2 to 3 yrs maximum.. if you use 1 OR 2 ACs in your home and you run same for up to 12 hours daily @ 52naira per kwh, and you didn't bypass the phcn prepaid meter, your monthly bill will be over 50k monthly...and up to 100k if you run it 247. meanwhile a renewable energy setup with 3m to 4m naira will give you same comfort, and if you do the maths well, after 2 to 3 yrs......it cancels out and you start enjoying free power.

two yrs ago (2020), one of my colleagues was lamenting bitterly how his average monthly phcn bill was close to 50k monthly.
he was forced to do some sharp practice in reducing the count rate of the meter and in the process unwittingly turned himself
into a milking cow to the nepa guy who did the job for him. when he saw that the amount he was being extorted was becoming
almost if not more than what he thought he was saving by altering the meter, he was forced to ask phcn to revert the meter
back to normal! grin
anyway, imagine paying 50k monthly for 5yrs (with the myto tarriff structure the rate keeps increasing year on year)
so, in 5yrs even if you live in an area where you enjoy steady power supply, you would have paid phcn an equivalent amount of
money which you could have used in setting up a complete, functional solar system.
and, it gets even crazier for the 'big man' with a diesel 'plant' in your analogy. with diesel prices hitting btw 900 and 1000 naira
per liter, a solar set up would cover the cost of running such a plant in less than a year!

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 2:31pm On Jun 21, 2022
zeestone99:


The best for Carport installations.

That makes sense, in fact serious sense. I didn't think of it.

Sun shade and Sun harvest, optimally. 2-in-1.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by CoachSatochi: 3:10pm On Jun 21, 2022
Hello Great people,
Please I need an installer in Abuja, let me know if you can be available tomorrow.

I have the battery and the inverter.
Please quote me when replying.
Thanks

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 3:16pm On Jun 21, 2022
FireTheSun:

Solar is supposed to pay for itself over a long time, but with the high cost of energy (Gas, Electricity, Fuel) and the incessant grid collapse of our Country, Solar is paying for itself in even shorter time than was predicted (averagely 15yrs)


On the average, 2 years in Nigeria to recoup your investment if you consider the cost of cooking gas and have been able to upgrade to systems that can support induction cookers especially on sunny days.


Is there anyone in the House who knows about conversion of Petrol Engine to Electric ?
My problem is how to convert my Petrol Car Engines to run on Electric (not looking to buy off the shelf Electric Vehicles).
Like we did for home use, l want to be able to use flexible (and even if not flexible) Solar Panels on the Roof of my car and let it harness juice when l park it in the Sun. I also want to be able to load the bot with LifePo4 cells, as much as l want.

I have heard snippets of people who convert Petrol Engines to use Gas or even turn it to EV but there is a serious knowledge gap on how to do it.
Na so e dey take start o, fertile minds on this thread should please roll it over in their minds.

You're not the only one that has seriously been considering that. Good thing is that EV is about the easiest thing to do although the efficiency may not be top notch if you're to convert existing ICEs to EVs. The former are usually heavier than new EVs with their uni body construction, something which ensures that as much as 400 auto parts are done away with, including bolts, screws etc.

And I don't believe there is knowledge gap in Nigeria as it pertains to EVs especially in the most basic iterations of it. The minds on this thread alone are brilliant enough to DIY EVs if the conditions and atmosphere are eased, conditions like procuring batteries for example . There is a video of a Hausa man who has converted his fleets of small transport buses to EVs and given it out to drivers who come to charge it in his massive solar shed. With full charge, it drives for 5 hrs (they didn't give estimates in Kilometers)


Let me just chip this in. I produce excess solar electricity for the appliances that I have at the moment. So wify just woke up one day and suggested that the excess be channelled into making cold products for outside consumption. Mind you, this street and many adjoining ones have been suffering in the hands of NEPA for ages. Ńa so she rent one shop not far from the building, we come extend armoured cables to the place, purchase freezers, start Ice block, packaged water, soft drinks etc. People travel kilometers to this place just to get chilled products including ice blocks. If you make around 90k profit monthly on iced block alone, calculate how much in a year. Then come add bags of chilled packaged water sold on daily basis.

It's one year now and she has recouped thrice the money she spent in getting two deep freezers and a fridge.

Me I come dey look myself say I no think deep say I fit still make money from my power; all along what I kept thinking about was how to keep increasing my power generation, but ńa wify come think better thing for me. Two correct heads are indeed better than one.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 4:12pm On Jun 21, 2022
earthrealm:



there comes a point in a mans life, when he places his comfort above money, you are in your house and nepa strikes by 2am, and temperature is high, unless you are among the mega rich in nigeria with unlimited money, then you could have a huge soundproof diesel gen with automatic start/changeover...so it kicks in automatically, but the avg nigerian will either endure the heat, or have to go out and turn on the noisy petrol gen disturbing the nebos + announcing or providing cover for robbers.

and even if you analyse it thoroughly, solar/renewable energy is far cheaper than running gens and even grid. most solar setups pay for itself after 2 to 3 yrs maximum..

Personally I still think a mega rich opting for a massive sound proof diesel gen for his home in Nigeria is being naira wise, kobo foolish. The reason is @ the bolded.

I am still one of the impoverished class of the society grin but if by chance I become mega rich in Nigeria today, (whistles), chai I will make sure I get small solar set ups for every home of the poor in my street. What is the sense in getting a humongous diesel gen when it's not that I'm powering a factory and running after expensive diesel when I can afford the quite life of the sun.

Solar is so sweet that it is a thing of joy to see people join the bandwagon of AE.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by chrisatah94: 5:01pm On Jun 21, 2022
Greetings Guys.

Please I'm totally new to Solar

Apart from this shown on the pic, What extra (& cost if possible) will I need to power up a 2bedroom flat.

Load will be 50 inch TV, 1 fan, 4 bulbs, home theater and a Laptop. Will need your appropriate guidance please. Thankyou

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by drizzypat: 5:45pm On Jun 21, 2022
Hello I was told condensed water from an air-conditioner can me use as the liquid to be added in tabular battery then charge it ..it then becomes quite new

Pls is this true?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 7:34pm On Jun 21, 2022
sethtsadopp:
So I was just thinking randomly about what exactly is the ultimate aim of what we are all trying to achieve with Solar?
Is it uninterrupted power supply?
Is it cheaper electricity?
Is it about the environment?
Or other things?
And which among these is the most important for most of us here?

Because for example, if it's about saving money, from some rough calculations I have done, it appears off-grid solar is simply the most expensive way to make electricity, No?
So does off grid even make any sense? Or is it best to combine grid and solar to create that uninterrupted supply (and cheaper bacause of grid?).

What are your thoughts on these?



What solar is to us defer by individuals....for me it's all of the ones you've listed; clean energy source, significantly reduced noise, reliability, uninterrupted supply, long term cost saving and environmental friendly.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 7:34pm On Jun 21, 2022
drizzypat:
Hello I was told condensed water from an air-conditioner can me use as the liquid to be added in tabular battery then charge it ..it then becomes quite new

Pls is this true?

Yes so long as you can cleanly fetch it
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by EPOMA(m): 8:28pm On Jun 21, 2022
ojeysky:


What solar is to us defer by individuals....for me it's all of the ones you've listed; clean energy source, significantly reduced noise, reliability, uninterrupted supply, long term cost saving and environmental friendly.

Correct
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by drizzypat: 8:31pm On Jun 21, 2022
ojeysky:


Yes so long as you can cleanly fetch it
thanks I jst got out over 5liters of mine. Pls what's d next step
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 8:54pm On Jun 21, 2022
drizzypat:
thanks I jst got out over 5liters of mine. Pls what's d next step

Next step to what Sir? If you've gotten the water then use it as you will use the distilled water

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 9:21pm On Jun 21, 2022
drizzypat:
thanks I jst got out over 5liters of mine. Pls what's d next step

angry grin grin grin grin grin grin tongue tongue tongue
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by drizzypat: 9:26pm On Jun 21, 2022
ojeysky:


Next step to what Sir? If you've gotten the water then use it as you will use the distilled water
oh I'm not really good at this ND my installer is currently away.. he jst told me this ,are you saying I should just put d water in and that's all den charge??
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by drizzypat: 9:30pm On Jun 21, 2022
earthrealm:


angry grin grin grin grin grin grin tongue tongue tongue
pls explain if u can. Not here for jokes .
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 9:33pm On Jun 21, 2022
drizzypat:
oh I'm not really good at this ND my installer is currently away.. he jst told me this ,are you saying I should just put d water in and that's all den charge??

Here is a video that could help.....you can start form 2:40. Take note of the precautions when topping the battery water.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTB3N0PL9PA
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by adrusa: 10:08pm On Jun 21, 2022
sethtsadopp:
So I was just thinking randomly about what exactly is the ultimate aim of what we are all trying to achieve with Solar?
Is it uninterrupted power supply?
Is it cheaper electricity?
Is it about the environment?
Or other things?
And which among these is the most important for most of us here?

Because for example, if it's about saving money, from some rough calculations I have done, it appears off-grid solar is simply the most expensive way to make electricity, No?
So does off grid even make any sense? Or is it best to combine grid and solar to create that uninterrupted supply (and cheaper bacause of grid?).

What are your thoughts on these?

NiyiOmoIyunade Ojeysky olopan valto earthrealm GeorgeD1 Bigrovar


Uninterrupted supply is it for me. Every other thing is bonus.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by drizzypat: 12:56am On Jun 22, 2022
ojeysky:


Here is a video that could help.....you can start form 2:40. Take note of the precautions when topping the battery water.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTB3N0PL9PA
omo see process
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 3:27am On Jun 22, 2022
GeorgeD1:


two yrs ago (2020), one of my colleagues was lamenting bitterly how his average monthly phcn bill was close to 50k monthly.
he was forced to do some sharp practice in reducing the count rate of the meter and in the process unwittingly turned himself
into a milking cow to the nepa guy who did the job for him. when he saw that the amount he was being extorted was becoming
almost if not more than what he thought he was saving by altering the meter, he was forced to ask phcn to revert the meter
back to normal! grin
anyway, imagine paying 50k monthly for 5yrs (with the myto tarriff structure the rate keeps increasing year on year)
so, in 5yrs even if you live in an area where you enjoy steady power supply, you would have paid phcn an equivalent amount of
money which you could have used in setting up a complete, functional solar system.
and, it gets even crazier for the 'big man' with a diesel 'plant' in your analogy. with diesel prices hitting btw 900 and 1000 naira
per liter, a solar set up would cover the cost of running such a plant in less than a year!

This has been my calculation and why I am currently completely disconnected from the grid. The small 5kw system paired with 14.5kwh lifepo4 diy cells with smart energy management is giving me a better deal than hooking up to nepa and 45% of the system is from components that i have had in the last 3 years (which have all paid off their initial purchase price) in 3 years the upgrade I carried out in switching to lifepo4 and addtional PV would pay for itself. In this inflationary period, not having to worry about NEPA bill is once less thing to worry about.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 3:30am On Jun 22, 2022
drizzypat:
Hello I was told condensed water from an air-conditioner can me use as the liquid to be added in tabular battery then charge it ..it then becomes quite new

Pls is this true?

I would even say it is your best source of distilled water. Most distilled water sold in Nigeria (even in major malls and super markets) are adulterated. Try get from an AC with relatively clean hose and use a white cloth (I use a dedicated clean cotton signet for it) to filter it into a jar and you have your distilled water. It served me for over 3 years.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 3:31am On Jun 22, 2022
House people. Please I need recommendation for water dispenser. If I can find one which uses inverter dc compressor I would be a very happy man. The current one I am using called Nexus is a total pain.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by drizzypat: 4:33am On Jun 22, 2022
bigrovar:


I would even say it is your best source of distilled water. Most distilled water sold in Nigeria (even in major malls and super markets) are adulterated. Try get from an AC with relatively clean hose and use a white cloth (I use a dedicated clean cotton signet for it) to filter it into a jar and you have your distilled water. It served me for over 3 years.
thank you so much


Pls how do I administer it to my batteries..I've got two batteries I wonna do that too

I just pour them in and charge?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nexuspulse(m): 8:47am On Jun 22, 2022
CoachSatochi:
Hello Great people,
Please I need an installer in Abuja, let me know if you can be available tomorrow.

I have the battery and the inverter.
Please quote me when replying.
Thanks
Kindly reach out via 0.8.0.3.3.2.1.3.5.7.7
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 9:55am On Jun 22, 2022
drizzypat:
thank you so much


Pls how do I administer it to my batteries..I've got two batteries I wonna do that too

I just pour them in and charge?
The best way to top is when the battery is fully charged. Please avoid doing this when the battery is heavily discharged - this is due to the low gravity state of the battery essentially at that level what you have is pretty much just water, adding more at that stage is not good. It could allow corrosion of the internals of the battery. You want to add water when the battery is fully charged and thus gravity is high.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 10:25am On Jun 22, 2022
drizzypat:
omo see process

Bros it's simple na, I just showed you video so you see what you need to do and I even told you to start from 2.40min. Basically, get the water, charge your battery to full and then top up with the water..... That's all na.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 3:13pm On Jun 22, 2022
I need Deye 8kw inverter, quote me if you have for sale or know someone that has.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 5:42pm On Jun 22, 2022
Pls who make use of Dc/solar induction cooker here?
Need to know the effectiveness especially the power of the heat and the lowest wattage possible. Today's sun made me think twice!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by IYGEAL(m): 6:28pm On Jun 22, 2022
dollarnaira:
Pls who make use of Dc/solar induction cooker here?
Need to know the effectiveness especially the power of the heat and the lowest wattage possible. Today's sun made me think twice!

Try normal cookers. I searched for inverter cookers and couldn't find reliable ones/sources.

You can try the double burner fairly used electric cookers with glass tops or order induction cooker from Konga/Jumia.

The used cooker may consume up to 2kw for the bigger burners, depending on size. Smaller sizes consume less than 1kw. Cleaner and apparently newer ones consume less. They all cook well.

@Valto may have some for sale too.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dollarnaira: 7:18pm On Jun 22, 2022
IYGEAL:


Try normal cookers. I searched for inverter cookers and couldn't find reliable ones/sources.

You can try the double burner fairly used electric cookers with glass tops or order induction cooker from Konga/Jumia.

The used cooker may consume up to 2kw for the bigger burners, depending on size. Smaller sizes consume less than 1kw. Cleaner and apparently newer ones consume less. They all cook well.

@Valto may have some for sale too.

Thanks a lot.
Will search for one with less kw.

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