Kobojunkie:
1. Stop confusing you assumptions of what was written in an epistle with the Truth of God. Jesus Christ instead told you of His Church that He builds it - of His own hands.

2. There you go with this your victim mentality again. What I hate are the lies you spew in the name of Jesus Christ.

1. Jesus has built us on his rock and your gate shall never prevail. Have your condemnation change anything? No!!!
2. I'm still wating for the day you will stop allowing the devil to use you to attack the church of christ and including yourself.

Obafavour:

LIES UPON LIES, you condemn us not God's truth stop lying against God.

Be specific!

Obafavour:

1. Jesus has built us on his rock and your gate shall never prevail. Have your condemnation change anything? No!!!
2. I'm still wating for the day you will stop allowing the devil to use you to attack the church of christ and including yourself.

Again, the Church Jesus Christ built was built by Him. You clearly believe your churches are instead founded by men, clear evidence that aren't of the Vine that is Jesus Christ, His Church. So?

2. See! The Way you lot equate preaching the Gospel Truth of Jesus Christ to the devil because it does not agree with the hogwash you have instead fed yourselves always leave be shaken... how did you go end up believing that the Truth of God is akin to devil message?

The reason you obviously fight against What Jesus Christ said has to do with the fact that your foundation is not laid on the Truth of God, Jesus Christ, but lies. Don't you see that?

Kobojunkie:
Be specific!

Stop lying against jesus that he was the one who condemned his church, he only condemned the pharisees and not his church. You are now using the name of jesus to condemn his church or jesus told you to condemn his church "with his name

Obafavour:

Stop lying against jesus that he was the one who condemned his church, he only condemned the pharisees and not his church. You are now using the name of jesus to condemn his church or jesus told you to condemn his church "with his name

So what you are saying is this

▪︎Jesus Christ teaching that He is leader/authority, Head/Master etc., over those who belong to Him - Matthew 6 vs 24 & Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 & Matthew 20 vs 24 - 28 & Mark 10 vs 42 - 45 & John 10 vs 7 - 16 - is a lie?

▪︎ Jesus Christ condemning the doctrines and traditions of men as lies which push men away away God's Truth, rendering their worship of God vain - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 - is also a lie?
▪︎ Jesus Christ sending His disciples only to those in the world- the unsaved people- and not to those who are already saved is also a lie - Mark 16 vs 15 - 16

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Kobojunkie:
So what you are saying is this

▪︎Jesus Christ teaching that He is leader/authority, Head/Master etc., over those who belong to Him - Matthew 6 vs 24 & Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 & Matthew 20 vs 24 - 28 & Mark 10 vs 42 - 45 & John 10 vs 7 - 16 - is a lie?

▪︎ Jesus Christ condemning the doctrines and traditions of men as lies which push men away away God's Truth, rendering their worship of God vain - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 - is also a lie?
▪︎ Jesus Christ sending His disciples only to those in the world- the unsaved people- and not to those who are already saved is also a lie - Mark 16 vs 15 - 16

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All the bible passages are not buttressing your point, once again we don't practice men tradition and doctrine but jesus teachings.
Jesus never condemned the church only the pharisees but your lack of knowledge, level of reasoning and hypocrisy made you condemn jesus church.

Obafavour:

All the bible passages are not buttressing your point, once again we don't practice men tradition and doctrine but jesus teachings.
Jesus never condemned the church only the pharisees but your lack of knowledge, level of reasoning and hypocrisy made you condemn jesus church.

▪︎You don't follow the doctrines and traditions of men yet everyone doctrine you have spewed here thus far stands against that declared by Jesus Christ of His own Kingdom which you all claim to belong to.

▪︎ Jesus Christ didn't need to directly condemn your churches since what He did instead was condemn the actions of individuals who would use His name to propagate lies, something your pastors and mogs, and hence their followers are most notorious for doing.

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Jesus Christ said that for those in His flock there is only one Father and He is in Heaven. Yet, you probably don't believe Jesus Christ and refer to your Pastors and Mogs as your fathers in the Kingdom of God.

So, I ask you directly now, is Jesus Christ the liar here or are your pastors and mogs who run your churches instead the liars that Jesus Christ called them out as?

Kobojunkie:
So what you are saying is this
▪︎Jesus Christ teaching that He's leader/authority Head/Master etc., over those who belong to Him - Matthew 6 vs 24 & Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 & Matthew 20 vs 24 - 28 & Mark 10 vs 42 - 45 & John 10 vs 7 - 16 - is a lie?
▪︎ Jesus Christ condemnin d doctrines nd traditions of men as lies which push men away God's Truth, rendering their worshipof God vain - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 - is also a lie?
▪︎ Jesus Christ sending His disciples only tothose in the world the unsaved people- nd nt to those who're already saved is also a lie - Mark 16 vs 15 - 16
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Mat 24:14, 28:19-20 only the christ assemblies are fuffiling that not you hypocrites that sit at home and condemn christ church.
Mat 24:11&24, that bible passage tells us that jesus christ knew there'd churches with prophets but to be beware of false prophets among the prophets not all prophets will b false. Try to understand.

Kobojunkie:
▪︎You don't follow the doctrines and traditions of men yet everyone doctrine you have spewed here thus far stands against that declared by Jesus Christ of His own Kingdom which you all claim to belong to.
▪︎ Jesus Christ didn't need to directly condemn your churches since what He did instead was condemn the actions of individuals who would use His name to propagate lies, something your pastors and mogs, and hence their followers are most notorious for doing.

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Jesus Christ said that for those in His flock there is only one Father and He is in Heaven. Yet, you probably don't believe Jesus Christ and refer to your Pastors and Mogs as your fathers in the Kingdom of God.
So, I ask you directly now, is Jesus Christ the liar here or are your pastors and mogs who run your churches instead the liars that Jesus Christ called them out as?

No one's lying, it's u dat don't understand jesus teachings, well.... u've been left to ur reprobate mind.

Obafavour:
1. Mat 24:14, 28:19-20 only the christ assemblies are fuffiling that not you hypocrites that sit at home and condemn christ church.
2. Mat 24:11&24, that bible passage tells us that jesus christ knew there'd churches with prophets but to be beware of false prophets among the prophets not all prophets will b false. Try to understand.

1. How can you, in your disobedience of His basic commands to you as individuals, be said to be fulfilling anything for Him as a collective? Don't you see how that is impossible given that which Jesus Christ taught and asks of His individual followers?

2. Those verses don't say any such of what you claim. You sure say you no need glasses at all?

Obafavour:

No one's lying, it's u dat don't understand jesus teachings, well.... u've been left to ur reprobate mind.

I don't understand? So where Jesus Christ said only One Father in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ didn't mean only One Father in the Kingdom of God?.

Kobojunkie:
I don't understand? So where Jesus Christ said only One Father in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ didn't mean only One Father in the Kingdom of God?.

That doesn't mean you understand his preaching, jesus mostly speak in parables. "Don't wonder ask!!! if you don't understand, check my signature

Obafavour:

That doesn't mean you understand his preaching, jesus mostly speak in parables. "Don't wonder ask!!! if you don't understand, check my signature

Again.... I don't understand? So where Jesus Christ said only One Father in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ didn't mean only One Father in the Kingdom of God?.

What has parable to do with this now abeg?

Kobojunkie:
1. How can you, in your disobedience of His basic commands to you as individuals, be said to be fulfilling anything for Him as a collective? Don't you see how that is impossible given that which Jesus Christ taught and asks of His individual followers?

2. Those verses don't say any such of what you claim. You sure say you no need glasses at all?

1. Jesus do not in anywhere condemn gathering in his name, atleast he didn't say don't gather in my name, but he said where two, three or more are gathered in his name he's there.
2. I said your level of reasoning is low, is it until jesus say it before you believe that that was what he meant, english is nt d best language to explain words, it might not be written or explain in full, but a matured mind will understand. Not a hypocrite who sit at home to look for a means to condemn christ church.

Kobojunkie:
Again.... I don't understand? So where Jesus Christ said only One Father in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ didn't mean only One Father in the Kingdom of God?.

What has parable to do with this now abeg?

The question you ask is only what jesus taught abi? Asking questions on simple english LOL.
All other teachings that you fail to understand and you start twisting in your hypocrisy nkor?

Obafavour:

1. Jesus do not in anywhere condemn gathering in his name, atleast he didn't say don't gather in my name, but he said where two, three or more are gathered in his name he's there.
2. I said your level of reasoning is low, is it until jesus say it before you believe that that was what he meant, english is nt d best language to explain words, it might not be written or explain in full, but a matured mind will understand. Not a hypocrite who sit at home to look for a means to condemn christ church.

1. Jesus Christ never authorized any man to use His name in gathering people in the first place.

2. In fact Yes! There are about 100 commandments that make it the Law and Rock, Jesus Christ, on which His Church is founded. So any idea or mention that violates the rock is not of Him..

Obafavour:

The question you ask is only what jesus taught abi? Asking questions on simple english LOL.
All other teachings that you fail to understand and you start twisting in your hypocrisy nkor?

Recall Jesus Christ said He will build His Church on the Rock? Well, even that declaration is of the Rock, the Gospel, on which His Church is built. So ideas that seek to invalidate the Rock itself are not of Him..

So Again.... where Jesus Christ said only One Father in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ didn't mean only One Father in the Kingdom of God?.

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ never authorized any man to use His name in gathering people in the first place.

2. In fact Yes! There are about 100 commandments that make it the Law and Rock, Jesus Christ, on which His Church is founded. So any idea or mention that violates the rock is not of Him..

1. Matthew 12:30, 1 corinthian 5:4, psalm 50:5, hebrew 10:25, matthew 18:20, act 13:.44 so there's no where jesus condemn gathering in his name. We do it for the glory of God and not man.
2. Jesus doesn't need to explain to his disciples like a kid before they could understand what he was saying except for the parables which he need to explain, but this is a simple english which you ought to comprehend as an adult, english won't explain it all for you only to comprehend. Simple!!!

Kobojunkie:
1. Recall Jesus Christ said He will build His Church on the Rock? Well, even that declaration is of the Rock, the Gospel, on which His Church is built. So ideas that seek to invalidate the Rock itself are not of Him..

2. So Again.... where Jesus Christ said only One Father in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ didn't mean only One Father in the Kingdom of God?.

1. No church is built on sand but on the rock except for the false church cos not all prophet will be false, receive understanding.
2. That was what he meant. But scriptures like mat 18:20, 24:11&24 and the likes you fail to understand nkor?

Obafavour:

1. Matthew 12:30, 1 corinthian 5:4, psalm 50:5, hebrew 10:25, matthew 18:20, act 13:.44 so there's no where jesus condemn gathering in his name. We do it for the glory of God and not man.

2. Jesus doesn't need to explain to his disciples like a kid before they could understand what he was saying except for the parables which he need to explain, but this is a simple english which you ought to comprehend as an adult, english won't explain it all for you only to comprehend. Simple!!!

1. So do you think then that in your disobedience of Jesus Christ's commandments, you are working with Him?

30 Whoever is not with me is against me. And anyone who does not work with me is working against me. - Matthew 12 vs 30

For example, in the passage below, Jesus Christ issues no command at all for anyone to gather using His name. However, your churches use His name to gather and in those gathering, commit many other acts contrary to that which He commanded.

19 To say it another way, if two of you on earth agree on anything you pray for, my Father in heaven will do what you ask.
20 Yes, if two or three people are together believing in me, I am there with them.” - Matthew 18 vs 20

How can any of what you do be considered working with Him?

2. So what Jesus Christ said when He decreed that you have no other father but the Father in Heaven was not simple enough English?,

Obafavour:

1. No church is built on sand but on the rock except for the false church cos not all prophet will be false, receive understanding.
2. That was what he meant. But scriptures like mat 18:20, 24:11&24 and the likes you fail to understand nkor?

1. The Rock on which Jesus Christ built His Church on is Himself ,God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. What this means is that any doctrine and tradition that contravenes the foundation that is He, is not of Him.

Now, according to Him, the Rock, His Church is built by Him - His own hands - meaning everywhere church is of your false teachers and false prophets.

2. I clearly understand those scriptures since they are easily comprehended by anyone skilled in human language. Your attempts at pretending they say what they don't is what I refuse to accept since that is clearly against Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
1. So do you think then that in your disobedience of Jesus Christ's commandments, you are working with Him?

For example, in the passage below, Jesus Christ issues no command at all for anyone to gather using His name. However, your churches use His name to gather and in those gathering, commit many other acts contrary to that which He commanded.
How can any of what you do be considered working with Him?

2. So what Jesus Christ said when He decreed that you have no other father but the Father in Heaven was not simple enough English?,

You are pointless.
2. Our pastors aren't our father but God is our father. Cos we don't pray to or do things in our pastor's name but in the name of jesus.
1. I've given u enough scriptures dat support our gathering but u remain foolishly adamant to accept d truth.
Jesus did not say we should not gather in his name he even support gathering in his name for the glory of God mat 18:16-20. Read and understand!!!

Kobojunkie:
1. The Rock on which Jesus Christ built His Church on is Himself ,God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. What this means is that any doctrine and tradition that contravenes the foundation that is He, is not of Him.

Now, according to Him, the Rock, His Church is built by Him - His own hands - meaning everywhere church is of your false teachers and false prophets.

2. I clearly understand those scriptures since they are easily comprehended by anyone skilled in human language. Your attempts at pretending they say what they don't is what I refuse to accept since that is clearly against Jesus Christ.

1. Matthew 18:16-20, refers to the church and the church have been built on the rock.
2. You don't understand, ask and stop being a hypocrite. And.... hypocrite are fools that don't ask but wonders while they pretend to understand.

Obafavour:

You are pointless.
2. Our pastors aren't our father but God is our father. Cos we don't pray to or do things in our pastor's name but in the name of jesus.
1. I've given u enough scriptures dat support our gathering but u remain foolishly adamant to accept d truth.
Jesus did not say we should not gather in his name he even support gathering in his name for the glory of God mat 18:16-20. Read and understand!!!

Again....1. So do you think then that in your disobedience of Jesus Christ's commandments, you are working with Him?

For example, in the passage below, Jesus Christ issues no command at all for anyone to gather using His name. However, your churches use His name to gather and in those gathering, commit many other acts contrary to that which He commanded.
How can any of what you do be considered working with Him?

2. So what Jesus Christ said when He decreed that you have no other father but the Father in Heaven was not simple enough English?,

Obafavour:

1. Matthew 18:16-20, refers to the church and the church have been built on the rock.
2. You don't understand, ask and stop being a hypocrite. And.... hypocrite are fools that don't ask but wonders while they pretend to understand.

Again....1. The Rock on which Jesus Christ built His Church on is Himself ,God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. What this means is that any doctrine and tradition that contravenes the foundation that is He, is not of Him.

Now, according to Him, the Rock, His Church is built by Him - His own hands - meaning everywhere church is of your false teachers and false prophets.

2. I clearly understand those scriptures since they are easily comprehended by anyone skilled in human language. Your attempts at pretending they say what they don't is what I refuse to accept since that is clearly against Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Again....1. So do you think then that in your disobedience of Jesus Christ's commandments, you are working with Him?

For example, in the passage below, Jesus Christ issues no command at all for anyone to gather using His name. However, your churches use His name to gather and in those gathering, commit many other acts contrary to that which He commanded.
How can any of what you do be considered working with Him?

2. So what Jesus Christ said when He decreed that you have no other father but the Father in Heaven was not simple enough English?,

Are you this fool, haven't i answered your question? Stop prolonging this if you have nothing reasonable to say.
1. We follow jesus teachings and he support our gathering that is built on the rock matt 18:16-20.
2. That was what jesus meant. But you pretend to understand the whole scriptures and that's a depiction of a foolish hypocrite.

Kobojunkie:
Again....1. The Rock on which Jesus Christ built His Church on is Himself ,God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. What this means is that any doctrine and tradition that contravenes the foundation that is He, is not of Him.

Now, according to Him, the Rock, His Church is built by Him - His own hands - meaning everywhere church is of your false teachers and false prophets.

2. I clearly understand those scriptures since they are easily comprehended by anyone skilled in human language. Your attempts at pretending they say what they don't is what I refuse to accept since that is clearly against Jesus Christ.

1. Please tell me where jesus say everywhere church is of false prophet i need direct answer.
2. You still keep decieving yourself, matthew 28:16-20 is hitting you abi?

Obafavour:

Are you this fool, haven't i answered your question? Stop prolonging this if you have nothing reasonable to say.
1. We follow jesus teachings and he support our gathering that is built on the rock matt 18:16-20.
2. That was what jesus meant. But you pretend to understand the whole scriptures and that's a depiction of a foolish hypocrite.

1. His Church, He spoke of in John 15 vs 1 - 11 are of those who abide by His Teachings(and commandments). Clearly you don't do that, meaning your foundation isn't on the Rock(His teachings and commandments) but on lies fed you by your churches of men. You have more than proven that during the course of this discussion.

2. I don't pretend to understand the whole scripture. It is written in human Language and can clearly be comprehended so. Even Jesus Christ Himself said that in order to gain understanding of the Kingdom of God, one simply needs to use the understanding they already have, for example, basic human language comprehension skills - Matthew 13 vs 12 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 24 & Matthew 25 vs 29.

Obafavour:

1. Please tell me where jesus say everywhere church is of false prophet i need direct answer.
2. You still keep decieving yourself, matthew 28:16-20 is hitting you abi?

1. Jesus Christ never authorized your churches to begin with. The only Church which He spoke of is that which He built with His own Hands and administers/manages by Himself - John 15 vs 1 - 11

2. Jesus Christ said of those who belong to Him that He alone is Teacher and authority over those who are of His Kingdom. Matthew 28 vs 16- 20 is Jesus Christ mission given to individual followers to go teach the same exact Gospel He taught to them to those in the world(the unsaved and unbelievers).

Many of those who fill your churches every week, and have been doing so for years, have long been supposedly baptized and even born-again, so why do you continue to sit as teacher over them, against Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
1. His Church, He spoke of in John 15 vs 1 - 11 are of those who abide by His Teachings(and commandments). Clearly you don't do that, meaning your foundation isn't on the Rock(His teachings and commandments) but on lies fed you by your churches of men. You have more than proven that during the course of this discussion.

2. I don't pretend to understand the whole scripture. It is written in human Language and can clearly be comprehended so. Even Jesus Christ Himself said that in order to gain understanding of the Kingdom of God, one simply needs to use the understanding they already have, for example, basic human language comprehension skills - Matthew 13 vs 12 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 24 & Matthew 25 vs 29.

1. So the church jesus refered to in matthew 18:17 is what? I doubt if you read and understand that scripture.
2. Stop being a hypocrite you don't understand. Jesus words are more spiritual than brain comprehension.

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ never authorized your churches to begin with. The only Church which He spoke of is that which He built with His own Hands and administers/manages by Himself - John 15 vs 1 - 11

2. Jesus Christ said of those who belong to Him that He alone is Teacher and authority over those who are of His Kingdom. Matthew 28 vs 16- 20 is Jesus Christ mission given to individual followers to go teach the same exact Gospel He taught to them to those in the world(the unsaved and unbelievers).

Many of those who fill your churches every week, and have been doing so for years, have long been supposedly baptized and even born-again, so why do you continue to sit as teacher over them, against Jesus Christ?

1. Jesus is not against the church matthew 18:16-20 and we are the church.
2. The early church have leaders appointed by jesus before his depature.

@kobojunkie
The churches are not forcing themselves on you, it's your choice and all i know is that jesus isn't against gathering in his name for the glory of God matthew 18:16-20 case close. No further or prolonging of argument.
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