Omo dem never tired to day beef,why cant they end it all so everywhere go good for everyone ??

Tunechi5:
Omo dem never tired to day beef,why cant they end it all so everywhere go good for everyone ??

No worry dat day wey God talk say He go troway Satan and all hin pikin and pikinses for fire go soon come.

After day day those wey make am, no go get issue.

It has been settled long ago, it's you that needs to settle your own case with the devil now by proving that you're not among those going into destruction along with him!

God has declared that Satan will be destroyed but he's fighting really hard so that he won't go down alone.

So think of how to fight for your own salvation by taking side with the winning team: Jesus' team!

Tunechi5:
Omo dem never tired to day beef,why cant they end it all so everywhere go good for everyone ??

There was never a beef to begin with, just myths propagated by men.

Kobojunkie:
There was never a beef to begin with, just myths propagated by men.

How come we have God and satan?

Obafavour:

How come we have God and satan?

We have God Because He is God, and we have Satan because God created Satan for His purpose.

Kobojunkie:
We have God Because He is God, and we have Satan because God created Satan for His purpose.

According to your first assumption, bible was lying when it says that God sent lucifer and the other angels away from heaven because he want to place his position/seat equivalent to God's, cos i don't understand that myth you mentioned explain

Go meet God for heaven and ask him

Obafavour:
1..According to your first assumption, bible was lying when it says that God sent lucifer and the other angels away from heaven because he want to place his position/seat equivalent to God's, cos i don't understand that myth you mentioned explain

1. But there is no record of your "Lucifer" character to begin with, and no record of such an event taking place to begin with.

Also, the record has it instead that Jesus Christ is instead the Bright morning star - Revelations 22 vs 16

Kobojunkie:
1. But there is no record of your "Lucifer" character to begin with, and no record of such an event taking place to begin with.

Also, the record has it instead that Jesus Christ is instead the Bright morning star - Revelations 22 vs 16

Keep decieving yourself "isaiah 14:12-14" or that was jesus in that scripture?

Obafavour:

Keep decieving yourself "isaiah 14:12-14" or that was jesus in that scripture.

The entire context of Isaiah 14 vs 4 - 21 is a dirge/poem sung of the King of Babylon..

4 At that time you will begin to sing this song about the king of Babylon: The king was cruel when he ruled us, but now his rule is finished.
5 The Lord breaks the scepter of evil rulers; he takes away their power.
6 In anger, the king of Babylon beat the people. He never stopped beating them. He was an evil ruler who ruled in anger. He never stopped hurting people.
7 But now, the whole country rests and is quiet. Now the people begin to celebrate.
8 You were an evil king, and now you are finished. Even the pine trees are happy. The cedar trees of Lebanon rejoice. They say, “The king chopped us down, but now the king has fallen, and he will never stand again.”
9 The place of death is excited that you are coming. Sheol is waking the spirits of all the leaders of the earth for you. Sheol is making the kings stand up
from their thrones to meet you.
10 They will make fun of you, saying, “Now you are as dead as we are. Now you are just like us.”
11 Your pride has been sent down to Sheol. The music from your harps announces the coming of your proud spirit. Maggots will be the bed you lie on, and other worms will cover your body like a blanket.
12 You were like the morning star,but you have fallen from the sky. In the past, all the nations on earth bowed down before you, but now you have been cut down.
13 You always told yourself, “I will go to the skies above. I will put my throne above God’s stars.
I will sit on Zaphon, the holy mountain where the gods meet.
14 I will go up to the altar above the tops of the clouds. I will be like God Most High.”
15 But that did not happen. You were brought down to the deep pit—Sheol, the place of death.
16 People will come to look at your dead body. They will think about you and say, “Is this the same man who caused great fear in all the kingdoms on earth,
17 who destroyed cities and turned the land into a desert, who captured people in war and would not let them go home?”
18 The kings of other nations lie buried with honor, each king with his own grave.
19 But you were thrown out of your grave like a branch cut from a tree and thrown away. You are like a dead man who fell in battle, trampled under the feet of other soldiers. Now you look like any other dead man wrapped in burial clothes.
- Isaiah 14 vs 4 - 19.

You are reminded of this even in the verses that follow the dirge.

22 The Lord All-Powerful said, “I will stand and fight against those people. I will destroy the famous city, Babylon. I will destroy all the people there. I will destroy their children, their grandchildren, and their great-grandchildren.” The Lord himself said this.

23 “I will change Babylon. It will be a place for animals,[c] not people. It will be a swamp. I will use the ‘broom of destruction’ to sweep Babylon away.” The Lord All-Powerful said this. - Isaiah 14 vs 22 - 23

Kobojunkie:
The entire context of Isaiah 14 vs 4 - 21 is a dirge/poem sung of the King of Babylon..
You are reminded of this even in the verses that follow the dirge.

He was comparing the king to what happened to lucifer read what you posted very well

Obafavour:

He was comparing the king to what happened to lucifer read what you posted very well

Comparing the King of Babylon to what happened to lucifer where? Where in that poem do you claim to see this?

Kobojunkie:
Comparing the King of Babylon to what happened to lucifer where? Where in that poem do you claim to see this?

And where do you see God created devil for it's purpose "for evil i guess"?

Kobojunkie:
Comparing the King of Babylon to what happened to lucifer where? Where in that poem do you claim to see this?

That poem was a message to the king of babylon but that particular verse "isaiah 14:12" was refering to the fallen angel "lucifer" of God.
How art thou fallen, O LUCIFER, son of the morning.... Isaiah 14:12(kJV)
Bible is of a deeper understanding.

Obafavour:

And where do you see God created devil for it's purpose "for evil i guess"?

God is said to be the creator of all things and He created it all for His purpose, so it follows that God created Satan for His purpose as well. Logic 101!

Obafavour:

That poem was a message to the king of babylon but that particular verse "isaiah 14:12-14" was refering to the fallen angels of God.
Bible is of a deeper understanding.

Stop pulling verses out-of-context to further what are your lies...

The passage clearly indicates that the dirge/poem was sung of the King of Babylon, and not your Lucifer character. The word "Lucifer" was erroneously introduced by King James, the same one who authored the book Demonologie where he first wrote of Lucifer as lord of demons. -\

Instead, as Revelations 22 vs 16 reveals Instead, Jesus Christ is the bright morning star.

Kobojunkie:
God is said to be the creator of all things and He created it all for His purpose, so it follows that God created Satan for His purpose as well. Logic 101!

Satan was an angel who wanted to exhalt himself than God but was thrown out of heaven (isaiah 14:12 KJV) that poem sung to the king of babylon was a reference/comparison of the fall of satan.

Kobojunkie:
Stop pulling verses out-of-context to further what are your lies...

The passage clearly indicates that the dirge/poem was sung of the King of Babylon, and not your Lucifer character. The word "Lucifer" was erroneously introduced by King James, the same one who authored the book Demonologie where he first wrote of Lucifer as lord of demons. -\

Instead, as Revelations 22 vs 16 reveals Instead, Jesus Christ is the bright morning star.

No one ever said jesus isn't the bright and morning star. But isaiah 14 was a message to the king of babylon of his detriment but it was compared to the fall of the devil. That's a poem of comparison, do you this lack knowledge about literature?

Obafavour:

Satan was an angel who wanted to exhalt himself than God but was thrown out of heaven (isaiah 14:12 KJV) that poem sung to the king of babylon was a reference/comparison of the fall of satan.

Stop repeating these ridiculous myths/lies you were fed from the mouths of your false teachers and false prophets abeg!

Obafavour:

No one ever said jesus isn't the bright and morning star. But isaiah 14 was a message to the king of babylon of his detriment but it was compared to the fall of the devil. That's a poem of comparison, do you this lack knowledge about literature?

Comparison, where?

Where are the comparisons made, of what and what else? Sources?

Kobojunkie:
Comparison, where?
Where are the comparisons made, of what and what else? Sources?

Ezekiel 28 spoke of satan as a fallen angel jesus also said it in luke 10:18

Kobojunkie:
Stop repeating these ridiculous myths/lies you were fed from the mouths of your false teachers and false prophets abeg!

You would never believed because jesus teaching was also a myth in luke 10:18-21&matthew 24:50-51. Bwahahahaha.
Hypocrite!!!

@kobojunkie
According to your claim that God created everything for a purpose.
God intentionally create satan to deceive the people he created with "GREAT PLAN" and lead them to "HELL" he created for the devil (matthew 24:51)" i guess according to your claim LOL.
Stop fooling yourself with your hatred toward church and with your foolishness.
@kobojunkie

Obafavour:

Ezekiel 28 spoke of satan as a fallen angel jesus also said it in luke 10:18

The entry in Ezekiel 28 is instead a dirge sung by God of the King of Tyre..

1. The word of the Lord came to me. He said,
2 “Son of man,[a] say to the ruler of Tyre, ‘This is what the Lord God says: "‘You are very proud! And you say, “I am a god! I sit on the seat of gods in the middle of the seas.” “‘But you are a man and not God! You only think you are a god.
3 You think you are wiser than Daniel and no secret is hidden from you.
4 Through your wisdom and understanding you have gotten riches for yourself. And you put gold and silver in your treasuries.
5 Through your great wisdom and trade, you have made your riches grow. And now you are proud
because of those riches.
6 “‘So this is what the Lord God says: Tyre, you thought you were like a god.
7 I will bring strangers to fight against you. They are most terrible among the nations! They will pull out their swords and use them against the beautiful things your wisdom brought you. They will ruin your glory.
8 They will bring you down to the grave. You will be like a sailor who died at sea.
9 That person will kill you. Will you still say, “I am a god”? No, he will have you in his power! You will see that you are a man, not God!
10 Strangers will treat you like a foreigner[c] and kill you, because I gave the command!’”
This is what the Lord God said. - Ezekiel 28 vs 1 - 10

Note how it is made clear that the subject is nothing but a man even in this here poem?,

As for what Jesus Christ said in the context of Luke 10 vs 17 - 20, what has that got to do with this here myth?

Kobojunkie:

As for what Jesus Christ said in the context of Luke 10 vs 17 - 20, what has that got to do with this here myth?

Verse 18 is a myth

Obafavour:

You would never believed because jesus teaching was also a myth in luke 10:18-21&matthew 24:50-51. Bwahahahaha.
Hypocrite!!!

Again, how does what Jesus Christ said of Satan in Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 to do with the Lucifer myth?

And what does Matthew 24 vs 50 - 51 have to do with it as well?

Obafavour:

Verse 18 is a myth

Jesus Christ said He saw Satan falling like Lightning from the Sky. My question again to you is what has this to do with your myth of Lucifer and with either of Isaiah 14 or Ezekiel 28?

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, how does what Jesus Christ said of Satan in Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 to do with the Lucifer myth?

2. And what does Matthew 24 vs 50 - 51 have to do with it as well?

1. Luke 10:18 is a myth.

2. Sorry i meant matthew 25:41. It talk about devil, his angels and hell.

Obafavour:

According to your claim that God created everything for a purpose.
God intentionally create satan to deceive the people he created with "GREAT PLAN" and lead them to "HELL" he created for the devil (matthew 24:51)" i guess according to your claim LOL.
Stop fooling yourself with your hatred toward church and with your foolishness.

I think you are the foolish one here since you haven't even realized it yet.

God created good and He also created Evil. Are you somehow suggesting that evil, which was part of His plan, overwhelmed Him instead?

God created Satan for His purpose and uses Him for exactly that. That is what scripture tells you.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ said He saw Satan falling like Lightning from the Sky. My question again to you is what has this to do with your myth of Lucifer and with either of Isaiah 14 or Ezekiel 28?

Isaiah 14 and ezekiel 28 talked about fall from heaven, jesus also said it in luke 10:18. So it's a myth as well, cos satan isn't a fallen angel as you claimed.

Obafavour:

1. Luke 10:18 is a myth.

2. Sorry i meant matthew 25:41. It talk about devil, his angels and hell.

1. Again, how does what Jesus Christ said of Satan in Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 to do with the Lucifer myth?

2. As for Matthew 25 vs 41, what has that to do with this myth of yours abeg?,