Kobojunkie:
I think you are the foolish one here since you haven't even realized it yet.

God created good and He also created Evil. Are you somehow suggesting that evil, which was part of His plan, overwhelmed Him instead?

God created Satan for His purpose and uses Him for exactly that. That is what scripture tells you.

God created the evil spirit, but didn't design satan evil from start.
It's just like saying God designed men for evil from start.

Once u sell ur soul kpatakpata to one of them, their beef over ur head ends. Dont believe anybody dat tells u everything is free cos they both wants ur soul, the reason for the beef. So their beef ends per soul or person

Obafavour:

Isaiah 14 and ezekiel 28 talked about fall from heaven, jesus also said it in luke 10:18. So it's a myth as well, cos satan isn't a fallen angel as you claimed.

1.Both poems explain exactly who fell, how, and to what. The who are given of men. The how, explained of men falling from a height...kings from grace. The to,... also of men, to shoel, the grave where only men go. So, again, I fail to see how those two in any way buttresses your myth.

2. As for what Jesus Christ said of Satan falling like lightning, whatever connection you are trying to make with the myth of Lucifer, I also fail to see.

Jesus Christ never said anything about Satan falling like a fallen angel but instead like lightning. Jesus Christ came from the Father above. And so did Satan who He, Jesus Christ said is the enemy, falling from the sky like lightning. So?

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, how does what Jesus Christ said of Satan in Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 to do with the Lucifer myth?

2. As for Matthew 25 vs 41, what has that to do with this myth of yours abeg?,

1. Jesus talked about satan as a fallen angel, not a creature created for evil.

2. How come devil have angels in that scripture? Or God also created angels for him to help him in deceiving people?

Obafavour:

1. Jesus talked about satan as a fallen angel, not a creature created for evil.

2. How come devil have angels in that scripture? Or God also created angels for him to help him in deceiving people?

1. Fallen angel where?

2. So in your mind, it didn't occur to you that if God created all things for His purpose, He also created even the angels and demons for His purpose?,

Obafavour:

God created the evil spirit, but didn't design satan evil from start. It's just like saying God designed men for evil from start.

Where do these ideas of yours come from? Provide references, in context mind you.

Emibolt:
Once u sell ur soul kpatakpata to one of them, their beef over ur head ends. Dont believe anybody dat tells u everything is free cos they both wants ur soul, the reason for the beef. So their beef ends per soul or person

Did Satan even state anywhere that he desires the soul of men?

Kobojunkie:
1.Both poems explain exactly who fell, how, and to what. The who are given of men. The how, explained of men falling from a height...kings from grace. The to,... also of men, to shoel, the grave where only men go. So, again, I fail to see how those two in any way buttresses your myth.

2. As for what Jesus Christ said of Satan falling like lightning, whatever connection you are trying to make with the myth of Lucifer, I also fail to see.

Jesus Christ never said anything about Satan falling like a fallen angel but instead like lightning. Jesus Christ came from the Father above. And so did Satan who He, Jesus Christ said is the enemy, falling from the sky like lightning. So?

No where in the scripture that says devil was created for evil but evil spirit. That was the evil d bible talked about but scriptures like luke 10:18, mat 25:51, isa 14:12 and ezekiel 28 has buttressed my point, that satan fell and not design for evil at first.

Kobojunkie:
1. Fallen angel where?

2. So in your mind, it didn't occur to you that if God created all things for His purpose, He also created even the angels and demons for His purpose?,

1. Ask yourself why satan fell in that scripture.
2. God created demons but satan was not evil from start, he fell reason!!! Luke 10:18

Obafavour:
1. No where in the scripture that says devil was created for evil but evil spirit. That was the evil d bible talked about but scriptures like luke 10:18, mat 25:51, isa 14:12 and ezekiel 28 has buttressed my point, that satan fell and not design for evil at first.

You pick random verses out-of-context, completing ignoring the original message indicated by the author of the text, all so you can use it to further an idea born of delusions, a myth without a real beginning or backing, and you wonder why I call it out as such?,

Kobojunkie:
Did Satan even state anywhere that he desires the soul of men?

Na only God dey talk we never hear from Satan. But from my view, i think and know they both wants ur soul.

Obafavour:

1. Ask yourself why satan fell in that scripture.
2. God created demons but satan was not evil from start, he fell reason!!! Luke 10:18

1. I know why Satan fell from the sky like lightning and it has absolutely nothing to do with your myth.

2. Where is the evidence of these claims - these delusions, myths- you make found in scripture..

Emibolt:
Na only God dey talk we never hear from Satan. But from my view, i think and know they both wants ur soul.

The words of Satan are also recorded in scripture. So where does this idea that he wants your soul come from.

Kobojunkie:
Where do these ideas of yours come from? Provide references, in context mind you.

God created evil (isaiah 45:7-9) i guess.
He started using the evil since the down fall of man, but luke 10:18 had made us known satan fell like men also fell he wasn't evil from start so also men wasn't evil from start simple logic you can't comprehend.

Kobojunkie:
The words of Satan are also recorded in scripture. So where does this idea that he wants your soul come from.

baba calm down, everything bout Satan in the bible were directly said by God and none was said by Satan. Eg. God saying things like " I am the Lord ur God, i am the king of kings". And God telling us Satan said this and that. But we have not heard from Satan or gotten inspiration from him directly like we have with God. In the bible u hear things like: Satan came to kill, steal and destroy. But we havent heard from him wether that is what he wants to do. But from the view of things, they are both competing for ur soul and their beef ends once one have ur soul unredeemably.

Kobojunkie:
1. I know why Satan fell from the sky like lightning and it has absolutely nothing to do with your myth.

2. Where is the evidence of these claims - these delusions, myths- you make found in scripture..

1. Tell us why devil fell "preparing for lies"

2. Luke 10:18 i saw satan falling from the skies like lightning of thunder is an evidence that devil fell. He wasn't evil from start.

Obafavour:
1. God created evil (isaiah 45:7-9) i guess.
He started using the evil since the down fall of man,
2. but luke 10:18 had made us known satan fell like men also fell

3. he wasn't evil from start so also men wasn't evil from start simple logic you can't comprehend.

1. You guess that God started using the evil since the down fall of man?

2. Men don't fall like lightning. Jesus Christ instead made that statement of Satan, the one who we previously roaming learnt in Job 1 was already down on earth and roaming.

3. Again, where does this claim that he wasn't evil from his beginning come from?

Obafavour:

1. Tell us why devil fell "preparing for lies"

2. Luke 10:18 i saw satan falling from the skies like lightning of thunder is an evidence that devil fell. He wasn't evil from start.

1. The topic here is on the myth. So explain it's origin first.

2. Satan himself is written to have said he was already here on earth roaming the planes in Job 1. So Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 does not in anyway buttress your myth.

Emibolt:
baba calm down, everything bout Satan in the bible were directly said by God and none was said by Satan. Eg. God saying things like " I am the Lord ur God, i am the king of kings". And God telling us Satan said this and that. But we have not heard from Satan or gotten inspiration from him directly like we have with God. In the bible u hear things like: Satan came to kill, steal and destroy. But we havent heard from him wether that is what he wants to do. But from the view of things, they are both competing for ur soul and their beef ends once one have ur soul unredeemably.

Have you ever actually read any of the scriptures for your own self at all? Cause all you have written here leads me to conclude you have never in fact read it for yourself but instead, you have fed well off the ignorance of others.

P.s. Satan is not the one who comes to steal, kill and destroy. Instead, it is the false teachers and false prophets whose arrogance and ignorance you feed off of when you listen and regurgitate their lies as if your knowledge - Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 and John 10 vs 1 - 16

Kobojunkie:
1. You guess that God started using the evil since the down fall of man?

2. Men don't fall like lightning. Jesus Christ instead made that statement of Satan, the one who we previously roaming learnt in Job 1 was already down on earth and roaming.

3. Again, where does this claim that he wasn't evil from his beginning come from?

1. What i meant was i guessed isaiah 45:7-9 told us God created evil. Just trying to remember the bible passage.
2. Job 1 didn't tell us satan fell from sky but it said he was roaming around similar to 1 peter 5:8. So luke 10:18 is different from job 1
3. Luke 10:18 said satan fell from skies.

Obafavour:

1. What i meant was i guessed isaiah 45:7-9 told us God created evil. Just trying to remember the bible passage.
2. Job 1 didn't tell us satan fell from sky but it said he was roaming around similar to 1 peter 5:8. So luke 10:18 is different from job 1
3. Luke 10:18 said satan fell from skies.

1. Well, God is the creator of all things that are so it does follow that even good and evil were created by Him.

2. Ofcourse Job 1 didn't do that since that idea of yours is instead a myth. Instead Job 1 revealed Satan has access to God in the high places even as he also has access to the earth. So, what is Luke 10 vs 17- 20, has absolutely nothing to do with your myth.

3. It in no way backs your myth.

Kobojunkie:
1. The topic here is on the myth. So explain it's origin first.

2. Satan himself is written to have said he was already here on earth roaming the planes in Job 1. So Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 does not in anyway buttress your myth.

1. There is no myth in that isaiah.
2. 1 peter 5:8 also said devil was roaming around. But luke 10:18 is different from job 1. To fall is different from to roam.

The evil God created in isaiah 45:7-9 was evil and disasters for sinners. Not the sins and evil we commit. Clear difference. So satan wasn't design to for evil "sins and deceit" but he fell, that was why God prepared hell for him in matthew 25:41

Kobojunkie:
Have you ever actually read any of the scriptures for your own self at all? Cause all you have written here leads me to conclude you have never in fact read it for yourself but instead, you have fed well off the ignorance of others.

P.s. Satan is not the one who comes to steal, kill and destroy. Instead, it is the false teachers and false prophets whose arrogance and ignorance you feed off of when you listen and regurgitate their lies as if your knowledge - Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 and John 10 vs 1 - 16

those false prophets are inspired by the devil, so they belong to him. So he is them. Same way u as an evangelist is inspired by God and u belong to God and God is in u. So wat are u saying again.
According to God, satan came to kill, steal and destroy, my question is have u heard from Satan?

Obafavour:

1. There is no myth in that isaiah.
2. 1 peter 5:8 also said devil was roaming around. But luke 10:18 is different from job 1. To fall is different from to roam.

3. The evil God created in isaiah 45:7-9 was evil and disasters for sinners. Not the sins and evil we commit. Clear difference. So satan wasn't design to for evil "sins and deceit" but he fell, that was why God prepared hell for him in matthew 25:41

1. Again, Isaiah is instead a poem sung of the King of Babylon.

2. Satan has access to both the heavens and the earth is what Job 1 tells you. So what Jesus Christ said of Satan falling like lightning from the sky has absolutely nothing to do with your Lucifer myth.

3. What you typed here makes no sense at all. Are sins and evil you commit not of Evil?

First and foremost,Satan means adversary .

Only man has adversaries, God has none...he is Omni potent.

God is one..there is only one power in the world. And it belongs to God our creator. That's is why it is called a universe..

Satan is not a dual opposite of God, to think so is an insult.

God is responsible for by both good and evil.

Whatever happens,whether good or evil happens because it is the will of God.

The satan must bend to the will of God. He needs an expressed permission from God.

Devil is a Christian creation just as Jesus is...

Lucifer is a title that can only be given to a female..."a she"(exoterically it means "mother of the light")

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, God is the creator of all things that are so it does follow that even good and evil were created by Him.

2. Ofcourse Job 1 didn't do that since that idea of yours is instead a myth. Instead Job 1 revealed Satan has access to God in the high places even as he also has access to the earth. So, what is Luke 10 vs 17- 20, has absolutely nothing to do with your myth.

3. It in no way backs your myth.

If satan wasn't a fallen angel jesus won't say i see satan falling from sky luke 10:18 and jesus would not also say hell "PREPARED" for satan and his angels in matthew 25:41. Hell should have been a home for satan since the begining like heaven as a home of God. It shouldn't be prepared for him as heaven wasn't prepared for God. You get my point?

Emibolt:
those false prophets are inspired by the devil, so they belong to him. So he is them. Same way u as an evangelist is inspired by God and u belong to God and God is in u. So wat are u saying again.
According to God, satan came to kill, steal and destroy, my question is have u heard from Satan?

I am afraid you are mistaken. There is only one spirit if inspiration and He is God's Holy Spirit.

Now, again, according to God, it isn't Satan who comes to steal from His Sheep, to kill the fat of His flock, and destroy His flock. Instead it is the false teachers and prophets aka the fake shepherds out there amongst you. Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 & John 10 vs 1 - 16.

If you believe yourself wiser than God, you are already along in the wrong direction.

Obafavour:
1. If satan wasn't a fallen angel jesus won't say i see satan falling from sky luke 10:18

2. and jesus would not also say hell "PREPARED" for satan and his angels in matthew 25:41. Hell should have been a home for satan since the begining like heaven as a home of God. It shouldn't be prepared for him as heaven wasn't prepared for God. You get my point?

Jesus Christ had His reason for pointing Satan as fallen from the sky as lightening instead. Jesus Christ said nothing of Satan being a fallen angel so your fallen angel theory is not of Jesus Christ.

2. Your assumption is based on some presupposition that Satan and his angels are somehow supposed to hate it in hell, isn't it?

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, Isaiah is instead a poem sung of the King of Babylon.

2. Satan has access to both the heavens and the earth is what Job 1 tells you. So what Jesus Christ said of Satan falling like lightning from the sky has absolutely nothing to do with your Lucifer myth.

3. What you typed here makes no sense at all. Are sins and evil you commit not of Evil?

1. But it of reality.
2. Satan fell from sky shouldn't be hard for you to understand.
3. It make no sense to a hypocrite like you.
God create evil and disasters for sinners "isaiah 45:7-9" explain that to us. But the evil we commit "mudering, fornicating and others are not from God but from satan. Clear difference.

Obafavour:

1. But it of reality.
2. Satan fell from sky shouldn't be hard for you to understand.
3. It make no sense to a hypocrite like you.
God create evil and disasters for sinners "isaiah 45:7-9" explain that to us. But the evil we commit "mudering, fornicating and others are not from God but from satan. Clear difference.

1. Reality which you have no source for exempt that in your mind is called a myth.

2. Satan, who was already here on earth with access to God in the Heavens - Job 1 - , is said to have been seen falling like lightning from the sky by Jesus Christ, says absolutely nothing to help your myth in any or form.

3. Your ramblings make no sense.

You are told God created Evil... if the evil we commit are instead from Satan does that mean Satan created his own kind of evil apart from the Evil created by God?

If yes, when did Satan become a creator like God?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ had His reason for pointing Satan as fallen from the sky as lightening instead. Jesus Christ said nothing of Satan being a fallen angel so your fallen angel theory is not of Jesus Christ.

2. Your assumption is based on some presupposition that Satan and his angels are somehow supposed to hate it in hell, isn't it?

1. But you can't bring out the point. He fell from the skies is telling us that he was in the sky before he fell. There are deeper meaning to that statement.

2. As i said the other time hell shouldn't be prepared for satan and his angels it should have been their resident from start if he was intentionally created for evil from start.

Obafavour:

1. But you can't bring out the point. He fell from the skies is telling us that he was in the sky before he fell. There are deeper meaning to that statement.

2. As i said the other time hell shouldn't be prepared for satan and his angels it should have been their resident from start if he was intentionally created for evil from start.

1. Again, what Jesus Christ said of Satan in Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 has absolutely nothing to do with your Satan as fallen angel myth.

2. The Kingdom of God, where Heaven and Hell are both domains in, came into the picture with Jesus Christ, and both domains will not be open to admission until after Jesus Christ returns and judges His Sheep. That is what you are told there in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. . So, see how even what you claim makes no sense in this.?