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Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 5:50pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
currentflow: Mr go and Research not me, you don't know the capabilitiesof f-35, this was how Mr Hypersonic took His luck to quora and get schooled. Taking out Russia S-400 systems have already be done and dusted by US. Or you don't or have not heard of Radar jammers? You people will just be Typing rubbish without knowing anything. |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Svlla: 6:05pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija: And Russia does not have radar jammer and ways of countering jamming by electronic means? Oh but you don't know that some radars are for anti jamming and electronic warfare You're a very dumb individual who knows absolutely nothing about radio detection yet claiming expert in radar and avionics Your Stupidity is marvelling 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Onigawara(m): 6:10pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija: I mean what I said and I will stand my ground! Aircraft carriers are literally sitting ducks. This is not the era when ships were a force to reckon with. In an all out war, do you realize that the Russians would be putting into use their intercontinental ballistic missiles? Let's assume a scenario where russia launches a surprise attack, with their ICBM on the naval base where these ships are ducked. Like I said, aircraft carriers are very big ships which would make them a sitting duck. Russia literally sees where they are via satellite images. Meaning, strikes could be called upon them any time and anywhere. The funny thing is, befire russia does that, I mean we all know that Russia dominates in space. So I'd expect Russian space weapons to have taken out us satellites in space, leaving them totally dumbfounded. If the USA chooses to sail the ships from their docks, and into the sea to reduce the risk of getting dunked, Russia can sent its destroyers and nuclear torpedo submarines after them. It is worth nothing that, just 5 hypersonic missiles could take down a US navy aircraft carriers and ten for the most advanced which is the USS Gerald. This isn't the era when countries attack blindly without having proper intel on what they're dealing with. These days, there are satellites to monitor enemy movements and the number and capability of enemy you would be facing. Naval battle would be completely disastrous in the next warfare. Why? Apart from submarines which moves deep in the sea, there's absolutely noway to mask your ship movement in the sea. On land, it is possible to transport military hardwares and troops at nights, without satellites seeing it. It is also possible to camouflage your equipments using trees and leaves. Meanwhile on sea, moving aircraft carriers to and fro would be seen, giving your enemy the opportunity to set in place, the perfect counters for whatever you're bringing. For instance, let's assume the USA is moving its naval fleet to attack Crimea or saints pertersburg. The Russians would see the movement glaring and transport bastion coastal anti ship missiles to the coastal cities of saints Petersburg and move too its destroyers, as well as anti submarine aircrafts. Russua would've known how many ships, the nature of the ships, the extimated arrival time and how to counter them. So they will set in place the perfect counter for the attack. Let me ask you a question. When Japan surprised the US by attacking pearl harbor, we all know that they destroyed pretty much every ship that was docked in the naval base. The question is, would the result have been the same if the USA knew that they would be attacked? Imagine satellites existed then, and the USA saw Japanese movement with aircraft carriers loaded with bombers and attack aircrafts and destroyers, wouldn't they have prepared for them? Would any of the Japanese ship had escaped that day? No, they would've been crushed 6 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Appleyard(m): 6:19pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
AldrichAmes: Fact is, the US is playing catch up in this area of warfare, but they will meet up eventually. The only thing is that they will milk the government dry. |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Appleyard(m): 6:20pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland: They will eventually. They're getting closer. |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by seunny4lif(m): 6:24pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Appleyard:If Iran or India doesn't have it before USA. Russia is already helping India as all India missiles are USSR and Russia made tech Russia can help Iran because all Iran defense tech are based on USSR and Russia. This remind me of when China signed agreement with the EU to jointing launch their own version of GPS but USA pressured EU and EU cancelled the agreement then the China government went to Russia. Long story short, The China now have their own version GPS while EU still dependent on USA GPS. 5 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 6:37pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Onigawara: You see your problems are much my brother, No offence. It's better not to coin things you don't know about, so many things in your writeup are wrong, and it shows you don't even know What you are talking about. First of all, ICBM are not use to attack moving targets, talkess of Aircraft carrier that is Always on the move. ICBM are desinged Mostly for Nuclear War head, Please don't be writing with boldness of What you don't know. Again, No one knows Where US Aircraft carriers are in, in Any given moment. (This is another place you are dead wrong, it shows you don't know how big the Ocean is and how difficult it is to track vessels) And again, even if you manage to detect carrier with a satelite, you only have 15 minutes window Before the orbiting of the satelite lose contact, that is if the vessel is not moving, talkless of moving( this shows you do not have the knowledge of how satelite orbits in space). Again, you call and Aircraft Carrier a sitting dock (This shows you do not know that Each Aircraft Carriers move with A Carrier Strike Group, and have layers of defence you must defeat,before you can even get to the Carrier itself) and There is No US Enemy or any one that currently poses that ability. Bro, I can go on and on, Please Before you type things, make Sure you have deep knowledge of What you are saying to avoid embarrassing yourself, Cheers. 2 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Svlla: Mr Hypersonic and one of the Dumb fella that argues without knowing nothing, I can't engage in arguement with you, and deal with. It will be insult to my inteligence, all i can do is School you when you are wrong. There is this saying; He who knows and knows that he knows, follow him, for he's Wise. But He who knows not, But knows not that he knows not, Shun him, He's a Fool. The lattar saying depicts You. |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Drenimarcus(m): 6:53pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
OverLord no fit lord hypersonic missiles. Don't you just love the MIC 2 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 7:07pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija:1) ICBMs are designed to carry both nuclear or conventional warheads. 2)Wrong! Carriers/ships are radar visible just like planes. Reason the US said the zumwalt is stealth(meaning reduced radar cross section), carriers/ships are very visible to radars and satellites. How do you think even civilian ships are tracked? Same way both civilian and military planes are tracked on radar. 3)True they are moving, but once their geolocation is gotten, an anti ship missile uses a combination of inertia, radar homing and infrared heat seekers to seek the heat coming from the ship. Same technology applies to a moving aircraft fired upon, the missiles simply follow its heat signature despite it still flying at supersonic or subsonic speeds, much less ships. 4) True Carriers move with a carrier strike group which ensures it’s protection, but this is against a small nation that would never dare go confrontational. No carrier group can go close to the waters of a major power because despite its protection, its defenses will be overwhelmed by a barrage of cheap missiles than its anti missile shield can handle and one hit each sinks them on high sea. Which carrier group can sustainable survive say a barrage of 1000 strikes coming with decoys? Every fact I stated are easily verifiable. 9 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Svlla: 7:13pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija: I can bet my balls that you don't even know what Radar is Radar and Avionics expert 7 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Hanibbal(m): 7:23pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Svlla: Leave that guy. He knows nothing. He just finished from secondary school. 6 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Svlla: 7:25pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija: Another dumb assertion from Mr Know Nothing So Aircraft carriers are now stealth that you can't effectively track them Sorry but I must tell you the truth, You have congealed cement in place of brain cells In your definition of satellites only geostationary satelites are satelittes abi For someone that boast alot, now tell me how much distance a satelite can cover in 15minutes? It's a simple question, if you fail it then you should henceforth stop posting here on nairaland to avoid further embarrassment 2 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 7:30pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
redseason: Bro, relax and learn, don't be like Mr Hypersonic lolz. ICBM can never be use to attack Carrier, you are dead wrong on that. If you have said Cruise Missile, it a seperate thing. No onw is arguing with you carrier is visible on radar or not, we are talking about you knowing Where They are at a given time. Another place you are wrong again is the means of how civilian ships are tracked. All ship are tracked from their transponder being on, and not radar, if a ship put of it transponder, the official organizations that are responsible to track this will lose their position. It's mandatory by the maritime law for all Commercial ships to put on their transponders at any given time, so they could be track. Now Russia tankers and ship are putting of their transponders because of sanctions, so their final destinations or Where about can never be known. If it was so easy to use satelite to track them, I'm Sure putting of their trackers would have been useless. You number three, Please go and read What Carrier Strike Group are and it layers of defence, that will suffice to you., that It's mission Impossible. And your number 4, During a war, Carrier strike groups are not Dumb to know what Distance to stay and operate from, you make it sound as if they do dock, They Simply move around in the Ocean, Before Any threat comes within 1000miles to them, They have Seen it already with their reconnaissance Aircraft that is Always in the air. Hope this help Bro. 1 Like |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Appleyard(m): 7:34pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija: You can't do what? No aircraft is immune to sophisticated defense systems. Ask the US airforce how many aerial vehicles they lost in Vietnam. 2 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Onigawara(m): 7:39pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Did you even read what I wrote? Please go through what I wrote slowly, and not ignorantly okay? Let me address all that you wrote step by step BritishNaija: I clearly said in my wrote up that Russia would use ICBM on US aircraft carriers if they are ducked in their naval base and if the USA decides to move them to the sea, then the Russians would send their destroyers equipped with hypersonic missiles and nuclear powered submarine after them. Did you ignorantly skip that part? Seems you did. . ICBM are desinged Mostly for Nuclear War head, Please don't be writing with boldness of What you don't know.you have no military knowledge. ICBM are long range missiles designed to carry both nuclear and conventional warheads as with most nuclear missiles. The iskander is a nuclear missiles as well. But it has capability to also carry not just nuclear warheads, but conventional warheads too, which is why the Russians, are using it in Ukraine you are ignorant of space satellite. Russia has a team that constantly monitors the movement of us naval equipments via satellite. The USA also has a team that keeps tab on Russian vessel movement. The fact that you think the ocean is too big, hence satellites which literally sees everywhere on this damn earth wouldn't be able to see ship movement is beyond ridiculous. It is laughable
With this reply I should honestly stop replying you cc; svlla see this comment
An aircraft carrier doesn't have any defense whatsoever, apart from maybe a Sam battery that is usually mounted on it. The job of the ship is just to move aircrafts. It relies on other ships eg destroyers frigates and anti air and anti ship missile carrying warships to protect it. All you wrote there is trash sorry to say
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Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 7:41pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Appleyard: We are not in veitnam era, and Please i do appreciate some of you Always read to understand the arguement. He was referring to US Air power, Which i say he can't be destroyed. No country can do that for now. |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Appleyard(m): 7:41pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
tamdun: What many people don't know is that much of the US military budgets are spent on bases maintenance and stationaries, only a small amount is dedicated to real weapon research and purchases. Military spending does not equate capability. 2 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Svlla: 7:42pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija: Orbiting of the satelite lose contact in 15 minutes Gosh! Am embarrassed for this guy Am only just seeing this now Pls don't ever talk about satelites here again 4 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Onigawara(m): 7:56pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Svlla: The comment made me laugh for like 2 minutes I feel like tagging the whole nairaland members to come see it 5 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Appleyard(m): 7:59pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Onigawara: US soldiers only brag and swag against third-world nations. See how their soldiers cried like babies when captured by Iranian coast guards. They will just shiit in their pants when they faced formidable Russian ground forces. The Iranian Revolutionary guards treated them like ordinary Somali Pirate criminals and Pentagon went mad. 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 8:02pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija:1) I never said ICBMs are used against ships, I only corrected your wrongs assertions that they only carry nuclear warheads. Sorry, they carry both nuclear and conventional. Read again, I used the word anti ship missile. 2) You answered yourself because since it’s visible on radars, and it’s geolocation is acquired via satellites. It’s geolocation guides an anti ship missiles to its location which then begin to follow its heat signature going forward. Also most anti ship missiles use what is called ARH(active radar homing) to track and locate a target on its own autonomously. 3) I fail to see what brought transponders into the discussion. Do you know what purpose a transponder serves? It’s meant for civilian ships to broadcast its location and details to ships and ports. How does this prevent a ship from radar visibility? A transponder is just like a broadcast antenna, it has no basis in this discussion. 4) I already talked about carrier groups, I will not engage in back and forth. I was very clear they are it’s protection, but not against a major power. Even while moving, a barrage of missiles using its geolocation will sink it by traveling to that location and then following its heat to it or using active radar homing to go to them even while it’s still moving, just like jets. Now, you did not answer how a carrier group can now defend against a strike that overwhelms its air defenses. 4 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Svlla: 8:08pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Onigawara: That guy has smelly fart in his brain 2 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Appleyard(m): 8:08pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Svlla: US will eventually catch-up because they have the endless Dollar printing to do it. But the scary aspect of this area of technology is that, while Russia is a decade ahead, and by the time the US eventually catch-up, Russia would have added another decade to being ahead and make US Hypersonic missiles obsolete because they are the only country currently that field weapons capable of intercepting and destroying Hypersonic missiles courtesy of the S-350 and S-500. The Russians are bastards. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Onigawara(m): 8:09pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Appleyard: If them don dress in their glossy uniform and carrying clean M16 rifle, you go think say they are more competent than Taliban recruits. Not knowing that na snowflakes, gays, and cowards them be. See as them dey cry like pű$$ys 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Onigawara: Your Ignorant is bliss. I never said ICBM are designed for ony Nuclear warhead, But Mostly to carry it. All ICBM stationed by Russia and US are strictly for Nuclear Warhead. You saying that Russia have satelites that keep tracks on US Carriers, sometimes i wonder if most of you operates on bluetooth with Same lack of knowledge. Russia knows not Where US Carriers are and can not track them in real time, jeez Where do you guys buy there lies from? You can have your satelite to keep a tab on equippmentd leaving dock, But you can not continue to track it. And for you to say Aircraft Carrier does not have it own defence But to just carry Aircraft gave your lack of knowledge up entirely, I wonder Why i was replying. Aircraft Carriers have their own defence Like Surface to Air Missiles,For US aircraft carriers, they also have: Phalanx CIWS (Close in Weapons System) NATO Sea Sparrow (Sea Sparrow missile) RAM (Rolling Airframe Missile) SRBOC (Chaff) SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare System to mention a few, a lot of dull people are on nairaland. |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Svlla: 8:11pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Onigawara: Aswear, that guy should stop commenting on foreign affairs 1 Like |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Appleyard(m): 8:17pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija: The US still have no counter measure against the Russian S-400, they tried all their best toys against it in Syria and it turns out they are lagging behind badly. Radar Jammers? Everyone have them. The only counter measure they have at the moment against S-400 is CAATSA. 6 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Drenimarcus(m): 8:25pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Appleyard: See people wey deh chop my tax money crying These Iranians are bastards, making mockery of the almighty US Military 4 Likes |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Onigawara(m): 8:25pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
BritishNaija: A source that backs up your claim that Russian ICBM were designed to carry only nukes? Meanwhile, even I can keep tabs on us naval fleets.... Not to talk of the Russians who have their own satellite. It is either you know nothing of modern technology, you're ignorant or just be a kid 7 Likes
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Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Nobody: 8:28pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Appleyard: Please tell me What toys They tried in Syria, I want to know,.I hate it when you make things up. It's on record that Israel is the only country that have engaged their f-35s in active combat in Syria. Israel F-35s flew more than 200 sorties Into syrial without the russian made S-systems stationed there knowing when they came or left. |
Re: US Hypersonic Missile Test Fails Again by Drenimarcus(m): 8:30pm On Jun 30, 2022 |
Onigawara: Little thing, southfront track US carriers everyday. https://southfront.org/iran-threatened-to-turn-us-aircraft-carriers-into-sinking-submarines-on-anniversary-of-soleimani-strike/ https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-british-chinese-french-and-russian-aircraft-carriers-september-12-2019/ 1 Like |
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