Kobojunkie:
1. Reality which you have no source for exempt that in your mind is called a myth.
2. Satan, who was already here on earth with access to God in the Heavens - Job 1 - , is said to have been seen falling like lightning from the sky by Jesus Christ, says absolutely nothing to help your myth in any or form.
3. Your ramblings make no sense.
You are told God created Evil... if the evil we commit are instead from Satan does that mean Satan created his own kind of evil apart from the Evil created by God?
If yes, when did Satan become a creator like God?

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, what Jesus Christ said of Satan in Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 has absolutely nothing to do with your Satan as fallen angel myth.

2. The Kingdom of God, where Heaven and Hell are both domains in, came into the picture with Jesus Christ, and both domains will not be open to admission until after Jesus Christ returns and judges His Sheep. That is what you are told there in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. . So, see how even what you claim makes no sense in this.?

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are mistaken. There is only one spirit if inspiration and He is God's Holy Spirit.

Now, again, according to God, it isn't Satan who comes to steal from His Sheep, to kill the fat of His flock, and destroy His flock. Instead it is the false teachers and prophets aka the fake shepherds out there amongst you. Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 & John 10 vs 1 - 16.

If you believe yourself wiser than God, you are already along in the wrong direction.

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, what Jesus Christ said of Satan in Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 has absolutely nothing to do with your Satan as fallen angel myth.

2. The Kingdom of God, where Heaven and Hell are both domains in, came into the picture with Jesus Christ, and both domains will not be open to admission until after Jesus Christ returns and judges His Sheep. That is what you are told there in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. . So, see how even what you claim makes no sense in this.?

Tunechi5:
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Kobojunkie:
1. Again, what Jesus Christ said of Satan in Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 has absolutely nothing to do with your Satan as fallen angel myth.

2. The Kingdom of God, where Heaven and Hell are both domains in, came into the picture with Jesus Christ, and both domains will not be open to admission until after Jesus Christ returns and judges His Sheep. That is what you are told there in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. . So, see how even what you claim makes no sense in this.?

Emibolt:
u are wise my man, i don learn dis from u. But it still remain dat they both wants ur soul

Obafavour:

3. If God created all evils doesn't still justify your point that satan was design evil.
2. Something fell like lightning of thunder is a metaphor. It depicts the speed of the falling, something descending with the speed of lightning is probably thrown rather than normal travel. Simple logic holy spirit didn't fall like a lightning but descended.
1. It a myth to a hypocrite.

Obafavour:

1. Stop being a hypocrite, he "FELL"
2. Hell was prepared for satan and his angels because he fell. It's a simple logic.
Sinners go to hell cos their name isn't found written in the book of life, so also satan will be thrown into the lake of fire simply because he fell, not that he was designed evil. If he was designed evil he should dominate hell and thank God you said jesus have domain of both heaven and hell.

Kobojunkie:
Yet Satan is never recorded to have ever asked for the soul of man?

According to scripture, the soul of man belongs to God - not even man- so can man give away that he cannot even lay ownership to?

Also, it is written that it is God alone that creates and destroys the soul of man, another reason why your soul would be useless to Satan since God alone has power over it?

To top it all off, Satan does as God commands him - Job 1 - making a case against the very idea that Satan can rebel against God..

Kobojunkie:
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2. Where is the statement in bold written?,

Kobojunkie:
I am reminded of how Thor, the god of thunder, is said to fall/arrive like lightning with great power, from the sky.....

But then Jesus Christ assured His disciples saying, ". He(Satan) is the enemy, but know that I have given you more power than he has. I have given you power to crush his snakes and scorpions under your feet. Nothing will hurt you. Yes, even the spirits obey you. And you can be happy, not because you have this power, but because your names are written in heaven.” - Luke 10 vs 19 - 20

Kobojunkie:

To top it all off, Satan does as God commands him - Job 1 -
2. making a case against the very idea that Satan can rebel against God..

Emibolt:
1a. it is believed dat unbelief and not sin sends man to Hell.

1b. So my question is: if God doesn't want to lose ur soul to the Devil, why not allow u to worship the devil, or leave an entirely free life without indulgence to his society called the church?

1c. Secondly, if he is not in competition with the devil over ur soul, why send his only precious son to die for ur soul?

2. Man wake up to the reality, God desperately needs ur soul because he believes u are his from the beginning of time. So he doesn't want to lose u. But always remember dat there are watching us and playing games with us, i mean the duo. And since the beginning of the game, God has always been using cheat codes so as to beat his rival (the devil) code like his son. Just to get an upper hand in the game.

Obafavour:

What you quoted up here have nothing to do with what we're discussing.
Luke 10:18 in that scripture your brain ought to have told that jesus was a witness when satan fell.

Kobojunkie:
I already told you when I explained earlier that Luke 10 vs 17 - 20 has absolutely nothing to do with your myth..

Kobojunkie:
1a. This belief is a lie though, so?

1b. Also, those who do not believe in God, unbelievers, simply perish in their graves - cease to exist just as God promised man since the time of Adam - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22. Satan obviously never asked men for their souls meaning those who pretend they can do so in vain.

1c. Here's the lowdown. Jesus Christ came to deliver to men a New Covenant/agreement from God and His death was necessary in order for Him to truly overcome Death, God's curse/judgement against Mankind from Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 and establish Himself as God over those in the Kingdom of God. Do not think to pity God or Jesus Christ as He gained a lot from willingly giving up his earthly life than you can ever imagine possible.

2. Can you even begin to fathom how many human souls are regularly destroyed by God as a result of unbelief?

Yes, He created them all, yet in keeping with His agreement/judgment, He destroys all those who die in unbelief. He destroys them just as He promised He would. So stop deluding yourself with ideas that your soul is precious to any. Those ideas are of men and not of God.

Obafavour:

1. Did you ever read that satan ask for permission before tempting jesus, eve.... and it was God that called satan attention to job when the sons of God assembled before God "job 1:6-8.

2. Who can't rebel against God when we're created as a free will being. Satan became what he is today because he sinned and was cast out of heaven.

3. (jude 1:6, hebrew 1:14, 2 peter 2:4, ezekiel 28:13-20, matthew 25:41, luke 10:18, 1 john 3:8, rev 12, rev 20:10, isaiah 14, 2corinthian 11:4) please read those scriptures with understanding and don't quote me in twisting words.

31 “Satan has asked to test you men like a farmer tests his wheat. O Simon, Simon,
32 I have prayed that you will not lose your faith! Help your brothers be stronger when you come back to me.”
33 But Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, I am ready to go to jail with you. I will even die with you!” - Luke 22 vs 31 - 33

Emibolt:
1. God has never destroyed any soul since the beginning of time.
2. All souls wether their life is dead (human body) or still alive, every soul awaits the eternal death which is the unbelief souls doom. So he hasn't destroyed any soul. You qoute anyway he destroyed a soul.

Obafavour:

Then explain what jesus meant in verse 18

Kobojunkie:
1. Actually, Satan does require permission from God to do pretty much anything. We see this in Job 1, we also see this in Zechariah, and we also see this when Jesus Christ prepared Peter to be tested by Satan in Luke 22


2. So you also assume God created Satan with the same "free" that He gave to men?

3. Again with the practice of picking random verses here in order to support a myth a that falls apart quickly when the individual Verses are considered in context. This reminds of what Muslims also do now in desperate attempts to insert their Mohammedeen ideas into the very same scriptures. Seems you both have the same teachers aka false teachers and false prophets teaching you all or something.

Obafavour:
2. Of course he have the freedom, those scriptures prove them.
3. I know you won't agree, hypocrisy in christianity. Read those scriptures as i said and stop giving excuses.

Kobojunkie:
Again .. I am reminded of how Thor, the god of thunder, is said to fall/arrive like lightning with great power, from the sky.....

But then Jesus Christ assured His disciples saying, ". He(Satan) is the enemy, but know that I have given you more power than he has. I have given you power to crush his snakes and scorpions under your feet. Nothing will hurt you. Yes, even the spirits obey you. And you can be happy, not because you have this power, but because your names are written in heaven.” - Luke 10 vs 19 - 20

Obafavour:

Guy you have no evidence that satan was created with evil.
But i've given scriptural evidences, you call them myth while you fail to present one "ORIGINAL HYPOCRITE"

Kobojunkie:
2. None of them say what you claim..

3. I don't agree because what you continue to assert is born of pagan myths and not scripture. I suggest you pick up and read a copy of Demonologie to find out for yourself.

Kobojunkie:
1. So you are insinuating that God lied when He said, "from dust you(mind, body and soul) were made and to dust you(mind, body and soul) shall return"?

2. How can a soul born without eternal life to begin with - a temporal being from inception - survive death(cease once life leaves it) to then live through a death of the eternal kind?

You do realize none of these claims of yours make sense ether logically or scripturally.

Emibolt:
1. since u claim a soul is destroyed once the human body dies,
2. what will face judgement, the dead life or the never dieing soul waiting for eternal death or second death according to the bible.

Obafavour:

2. I doubt if you read or understand those scriptures.
3. Those bible passages are myth LOL. Peleh oh real christian

Kobojunkie:
And nowhere in Scripture where you informed that the one called was not created for the purpose which He now serves God even to this day.

All you have done so far are make several attempts at lifting random out-of-context to support your myth, ignoring even the meaning given by the authors of the texts themselves.

Obafavour:

Who said no one was created for a purpose or your lack of understanding, Re-read our discussion.
I only challenged you when you said satan is for a purpose and which is to accuse which is true "agreed" but the fact i was trying to make clear to you was that he wasn't created evil he turned evil those scriptures proved it read and learn and stop looking for excuses.