Kobojunkie:
Where is the evidence of this assertion of yours to be found directly stated? You have produced none except for lifting verses out of context to have them say what, when taken in context, they don't.

Ok

Kobojunkie:
1. God's decree in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 is God’s judgment against all unbelievers. The first death - from dust you were made and to dust you shall return - is God’s judgment against unbelievers- they have no eternal life. There is no second judgment for them.

2. If you are referring to the judgment to come when Jesus Christ returns in judgment, only those who are born-again - they all have eternal life - and hence hence of the Kingdom of God will be judged in that final judgment.

i firmly believe all souls will be judged wether a believer or none believer (or dead or alive) before the judgement day. Remember dat LIFE is ur physical representation and SOUL is ur spiritual. Also Life dies with the human body and Soul lives in wait for judgement day. So what will face judgement, if all (life and soul) dies once?

Emibolt:


i firmly believe all souls will be judged wether a believer or none believer (or dead or alive) before the judgement day. Remember dat LIFE is ur physical representation and SOUL is ur spiritual. Also Life dies with the human body and Soul lives in wait for judgement day. So what will face judgement, if all (life and soul) dies once?

Sometimes it is better to remain silent..

sonmvayina:

Sometimes it is better to remain silent..

explain to me if am mistaken. After all we re learning

Emibolt:
1. i firmly believe all souls will be judged wether a believer or none believer (or dead or alive) before the judgement day.

2. Remember dat LIFE is ur physical representation and SOUL is ur spiritual. Also Life dies with the human body and Soul lives in wait for judgement day. So what will face judgement, if all (life and soul) dies once?

1. Judged by whom?

2. So you are insisting then that God, who is said to have said to have created man man the physical/non-spiritual elements of this physical world lied when He decreed, "from dust you were made and to dust you shall return" where unbelievers are concerned, essentially lied?

When He judged and condemned unbelievers to perish - cease after they die - He lied?

Emibolt:
explain to me if am mistaken. After all we re learning

Where in scripture do these claims you spew come from?

Kobojunkie:
1. Judged by whom?

2. So you are insisting then that God, who is said to have said to have created man man the physical/non-spiritual elements of this physical world lied when He decreed, "from dust you were made and to dust you shall return" where unbelievers are concerned, essentially lied?

When He judged and condemned unbelievers to perish - cease after they die - He lied?

i dont know about ur belief but mine. I think the dust of a thing is the physical you. You can still explain more if am missing something. Bless u.

Emibolt:
i dont know about ur belief but mine. I think the dust of a thing is the physical you. You can still explain more if am missing something. Bless u.

What God do you believe in and to what extent to do trust in Him?

What physical you? When this God of yours communicates to you does He connect to the physical you, or the nonphysical you, or just you meaning all of who you are?

Maybe I should start from there.

Emibolt:


explain to me if am mistaken. After all we re learning

Just get a pen and paper and start from the beginning.

"God said let US make man in our image after our likeness....
......
......
...,.

And God formed man from the dust of the earth, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul.(conscious being)

So A soul= dust from the earth + breath of God

At death , God takes his breath and it returns to him
The body is buried in the earth and it return to dust.
Everything returns to default...
We are all God's breath(spirit) experiencing human life in multiple ways..
That is why God gave humanity laws so that we live in peace and enjoy the experience. End of the day body goes to earth, spirit goes to God..
Read Psalm 104:29-31
And ecclesiastics 12:7.

Kobojunkie:
What God do you believe in and to what extent to do trust in Him?

Maybe I should start from there.

based on what he predicted will happen, which most of it, i can see with my eyes and hope more will come to pass. I believe in his existence.

Emibolt:
based on what he predicted will happen, which most of it, i can see with my eyes and hope more will come to pass. I believe in his existence.

What are some of these predictions that he made and where are they documented??

sonmvayina:


Just get a pen and paper and start from the beginning.

"God said let US make man in our image after our likeness....
......
......
...,.

And God formed man from the dust of the earth, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul.(conscious being)

So A soul= dust from the earth + breath of God

At death , God takes his breath and it returns to him
The body is buried in the earth and it return to dust.
Everything returns to default...
We are all God's breath(spirit) experiencing human life in multiple ways..
That is why God gave humanity laws so that we live in peace and enjoy the experience. End of the day body goes to earth, spirit goes to God..
Read Psalm 104:29-31
And ecclesiastics 12:7.

thank u. Clarity at its peak. So dat means immediately one dies, dat same day judgement follows or will there be a general day for all to be judged?

Kobojunkie:
What are some of these predictions that he made and where are they documented??

Revelation, Isaiah, et al.

Emibolt:
Revelation, Isaiah, et al.

So you ignore what God decreed in Genesis so you can instead cling instead what He said of His Israel in Isaiah, and In Revelations?.

Or am I missing something here?

Kobojunkie:
What God do you believe in and to what extent to do trust in Him?

What physical you? When this God of yours communicates to you does He connect to the physical you, or the nonphysical you, or just you meaning all of who you are?

Maybe I should start from there.

Before u clarified me dat soul is the breathe of life. I believed, soul to be ur spiritual channel with God. And the physical to be manifestation of the spiritual. And dat wen one dies, only the body died while the spirit awaits judgt.

Emibolt:


thank u. Clarity at its peak. So dat means immediately one dies, dat same day judgement follows or will there be a general day for all to be judged?

Judgement is only for the living...that why we have the law courts...

Death aquits you

Kobojunkie:
So you ignore what God decreed in Genesis so you can instead cling instead what He said of His Israel in Isaiah, and In Revelations?.

Or am I missing something here?

I believed God to be the maker of the world until some bible inconsistencies and scientific researches gave me doubts. But one cant doubt what he sees (his predictions about the future)

Emibolt:
1. Before u clarified me dat soul is the breathe of life.

2. I believed, soul to be ur spiritual channel with God. And the physical to be manifestation of the spiritual.
3. And dat wen one dies, only the body died while the spirit awaits judgt.

1. I never said your soul is the breath of life this since that breath was put in you after you were made aleady complete by God - Genesis 2 vs 7. Also, that same breath which God installed inside of man, He also installed inside of all the animals He created - Genesis 7 vs 15. So if you are assume your soul refers to the breath of life, what you are invariably saying is that even snails have them souls.

2. Your soul is your spiritual channel with God? Where die God tell you this?

3. Again, where did God tell you this? Or do you simply assume that if you think it, it is of God??

Emibolt:
I believed God to be the maker of the world until some bible inconsistencies and scientific researches gave me doubts. But one cant doubt what he sees (his predictions about the future)

So, this God you claim is as defined by and in your mind or what??

You seem to be of the " if I think it, it is true" crowd, or are my wrong?

Kobojunkie:
1. I never said your soul is the breath of life this since that breath was put in you after you were made aleady complete by God - Genesis 2 vs 7. Also, that same breath which God installed inside of man, He also installed inside of all the animals He created - Genesis 7 vs 15. So if you are assume your soul refers to the breath of life, what you are invariably saying is that even snails have them souls.

2. Your soul is your spiritual channel with God? Where die God tell you this?

3. Again, where did God tell you this? Or do you simply assume that if you think it, it is of God??

But God doesnt come out physically to communicate with us, hence my belief.

Emibolt:
But God doesnt come out physically to communicate with us, hence my belief.

So you don't believe in any of what God actually decreed. You simply believe as you choose to think and your mood leads you to?

Kobojunkie:
So, this God you claim is as defined by and in your mind or what??

You seem to be of the " if I think it, it is true" crowd, or are my wrong?

i might likely say u are right. But i feed my self with answers, hence the supply of imaginations as the supposed reality. But thanks man.

Emibolt:
i might likely say u are right. But i feed my self with answers, hence the supply of imaginations as the supposed reality. But thanks man.

Alright then.

I will leave you to it then. Whenever you decide to believe it worth it to take God at His Word, maybe we can talk then.

Kobojunkie:
So you don't believe in any of what God actually decreed. You simply believe as you choose to think and your mood leads you to?

at some point, i believed it to be myth and a story book with a non existed history, hence my belief in just its future prediction cos i live to experience it and it wont seem like a made up story to me.

Emibolt:
at some point, i believed it to be myth and a story book with a non existed history, hence my belief in just its future prediction cos i live to experience it and it wont seem like a made up story to me.

What makes you so sure you will live to experience any of this predictions?

Kobojunkie:
Alright then.

I will leave you to it then. Whenever you decide to believe it worth it to take God at His Word, maybe we can talk then.

I dont have issues, we can anytime. Bless u bro.

Kobojunkie:
What makes you so sure you will live to experience any of this predictions?

its all bout faith in one's self. And i will surely live to experience all of dem.

Emibolt:
its all bout faith in one's self. And i will surely live to experience all of dem.

How does faith in yourself ensure you exist to see that which God has predicted for a future that is still probably hundreds of years afar off?

Kobojunkie:
How does faith in yourself ensure you exist to see that which God has predicted for a future that is still probably hundreds of years afar off?

i dont believd them to be 100 yrs afar cos from wat am seeing it will be complete soonest.

Emibolt:
i dont believd them to be 100 yrs afar cos from what am seeing it will be complete soonest.

What is written seems to indicate otherwise, so?

Jesus Christ's return and judgemeht as explained in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 takes place 1000 years after His millennial reign over the Nation of Israel. So, which do you believe you will live to see?

Kobojunkie:
What is written seems to indicate otherwise, so?

Jesus Christ's return and judgemeht as explained in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 takes place 1000 years after His millennial reign over the Nation of Israel. So, which do you believe you will live to see?

by 2033 it will be a complete 2000 years since Jesus came and died. And secondly, the 1000 years u are talking bout is his reign on earth wen he returns for the second time. So he is coming sooner dan u expect.