3ple9iner:
The raw materials used to construct the roads to the farm are they not imported?

like I wonder how you people think. In the case of agriculture how do you expect to export the goods you get without a cargo airport isn't that an infrastructure?

There is no an economy would grow without infrastructure already in place and I know you know this. Companies that left Nigeria to Ghana did that because Nigeria don't have the needed infrastructure.
1) No power supply and the price of diesel was high which would result in increase in cost of production.
2) What about refinery if we had a working refinery, we would make more money.

I can keep on going on and on


Infrastructure comes before the growth of an economy.


And I know you guys know this but just want to keep defending him.

XerXers:
How come our economy is going down despite the infrastructure investments by Buhari?

XerXers:

The message is this, prioritize your infrastructure needs. Don't borrow to fund white elephant infrastructure

Idiotseverywher:
. My guy read what he wrote and try to analysis it without s tribal mind set and tell us what you understand

Tenses:


Sir, I'd recommend the documentary, " men who built America".

In that documentary you'd observe that it wasn't the government that built the infrastructure, it was the businessmen like Rockefeller, Carnegie, Thomas, etc.

What the government did was to create the enabling environment by enacting sound economical policies and carrying them out.

There have been explosive infrastructural development in Ebonyi state but it has not transcribed into good economy.

Prinxzona10:
People shouldn't use because of politics or hatred towards someone and be disgracing themselves especially the so called educated ones.
Firstly,Peter Obi never said that Infrastructure do not drive economy buh what he said was that,you cannot borrow money and start building an elephant projects(infrastructures) that wouldn't have immediate positive impact on the citizens and if we must put partisan politics aside,he's right if not,why hasn't the money APC borrowed so far(over 30+ trillion naira) in the name of building infrastructures affected Nigerians positively?.
Primordial segregation is an epitome of unthinkable people because when Fashola was trying to sound educated in other to counter Peter Obi,he never knew that he sounded awkwardly unintelligent because I don't see any reason why you borrowed money to build maybe Niger bridge and every materials will be imported both human resources and Peter Obi was telling you that you can invest this same money in a human development first(build some immediate impartable infrastructures such as roads especially the ones leading to the farms for exportations of Agricultural produce,schools,hospitals etc)there by creating jobs for your citizens and when been educated,your citizens can now produce those materials use in building the bridge,they can build the bridge,pay taxes and all that and by so doing,you have created some millions of jobs for your own citizens thereby improving the government income through their taxes.. .
Remove hatred and you will understand that Fashola thinks like normal Nigeria lazy political elites of which his ideas favors only them and remember that they always siphon at least 50% or above of the money borrowed while Peter Obi thinks about the masses because he wants to create jobs for the youths.
See, they keep on borrowing and importing everything including human resources(empowering their citizens and the money going back to their country eg China) hence the reason our graduates especially the Engineers remains unemployed and that's what Peter Obi is coming to stop hence the reason he always lament about moving from *Consumption* to *Production* and since they have been doing this same thing, what has change? Instead we keep getting low every day by day and somebody will still have the temerity,the alacrity to speak of the same pattern and people that called themselves graduates or educated morons will be clapping for the same person,arguing that he's right buh he has been in this failed government for almost 8 years or why haven't them implemented all these patterns if they're serious or he just want to counter Peter Obi just because he's opening their corrupt and selfish ass ....
The simple truth about all this logic is that Fashola is talking about the temporal solution while Peter Obi is talking about the permanent solution...
Eg,Fashola is cutting the tree from the branches while Peter Obi wants to cut the same tree from the tap roots.
I guess the different is clear and what baffles me most is that why all these attacks on Peter Obi and even Fashola that many people rated higher, is descending so low just to proof a political or a tribal point.....
Political elites like Fashola are after the short terms while Peter Obi is after the both short terms and long terms via the future...
Finally,the political elites belongs to consumption circles while the masses belongs to production circles and since we have been doing the same thing as Fashola said(consumption),what have those things profited to a common man on the street instead,everyday the rich are getting richer while the poor are getting poorer because they always share the money among themselves hence the reason they wouldn't want the status que to change .
Finally,if you're a youth or even a Nigerian via Igbo,Yoruba,Hausa,Ijaw,Fulani,Nupe,Ibibio,Jukun etc,try to understand that these political elites never had you in their minds and they will not until you rise and fight to emancipate yourself from their political,economic,mental,psychological,financial and slavish bondage..
Think about yourself,your future and that of your children...
I rest my case ,Gracias!!!!

Mod: Please,move this to the front page and I will buy you the Earth!!!!

Vulturereloaded:
This is the infrastructure investment, without people investment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVDFsx9nAI

stabilizer:
Peter Obi will never and can never be the president of this country.

Infact he will never be.

Obi is too small to rule a country like Nigeria.

He will either become third or fourth in the presidential race result


I don't even like the shape of his head

Obere4u:


If there's no infrastructure, how will they transport, store their produce.

Prinxzona10:

You wouldn't use his age against him buh try and lecture him because what these politicians have done to their brains are much that they hardly think logically again..

stabilizer:
Peter Obi will never and can never be the president of this country.

Infact he will never be.

Obi is too small to rule a country like Nigeria.

He will either become third or fourth in the presidential race result


I don't even like the shape of his head

Dsalvo:


Even if the news is fake, never delude yourself Amaechi has a chance. I just hope some of you dont run your private lives with the lack of pragmatism you speak with here.

The ruling Party of the biggest black nation on Earth will be stupid enough to go with 'structureless' Amaechi who can never deliver his State and region let alone be a respected unifier many will gladly, happily and willingly queue behind like BAT?

You think politicians don't like to win too? They will all just do 'abobaku' with outgoing Buhari ba?

"Let's just do Buhari's bidding and screw ourselves" abi? Is that how some of you think it works?

When have Nigerian politicians been self-destructive? Or have we not always known them to be self-serving? What can outgoing Buhari offer them to make them commit what is tantamount to career suicide?

Buhari is outgoing and asking them to bury an individual capable of winning and securing their future interest beyond 2023 and beyond Buhari. It makes sense in your mind that APC stakeholders will comply and fck themselves abi?

Many fail in life because they don't accept reality and refuse to look at issues guided by a knowledge of what is possible and what is impossible.

Prinxzona10:


You're highly intelligent because this is exactly what Peter Obi is coming to implement buh the political elites are fighting him because once he win and start implementing all these policies,the unemployed will become employed and when unemployed become employed, the lesser the criminalities,the lesser the political thugs,the lesser the political jobbers and many of these people living on #30k per month,will get busy with a legitimate work thereby earning some good money buh what baffles me most is that all these urchins or people refuses to see what every sane minds are seeing thereby trying to jeopardize their road map to total financial freedom.. I rest my case..Gracias!!!!

stabilizer:
Peter Obi will never and can never be the president of this country.

Infact he will never be.

Obi is too small to rule a country like Nigeria.

He will either become third or fourth in the presidential race result


I don't even like the shape of his head

LeoDeKing:

Me too.

incandescentena:
WHY ARE THEY CRYING MORE THAN THE BEREAVED

"PETER OBI IS NOT FIT TO BECOME NIGERIAN PRESIDENT" ~ Lauretta
Onochie
"I have carefully studied the leadership style of Peter Obi right from the
time he was the Governor of Anambra State and concluded that he's not
fit enough to rule this country.


"Peter Obi doesn't have the qualities needed to steer the leadership ship
of this country because he's unprepared and may not know where to
begin if elected.


"Nigeria doesn't need someone who will be using Chinese figures to
deceivehimself and his gullible supporters all over the internet. He should better withdraw or go for a Senatorial position because it's obvious he's going nowhere."
~ Lauretta Chidinma Onochie

tommy589:


Be positive. It won't forever be like this

mrvitalis:
Fashola is myopic in his reasoning .. and the job or economic boom is only but temporary let's check it

350 billion was used to build second Niger bridge ...how many people was employed permanently by that contract I can boldly tell you not more than 200 , contract staff not more than 10,000

If you gave 1 billion each to manufacturer in that area that focus on import substitution or exportable products ...you would have 350 multi billion factories

Let's take a garment factory for exam ..a 1 billion Naira garment factory can easily ... easily employ 2000 permanently and pay them over 80k per month ...their tax would be 12k say worse case 8k ...that's 16 million revenue from that business alone add profit tax you have around 50 million guaranteed revenue for government ...say you have around 20 garment factory funded and say 15 survive that's 750 million revenue guaranteed and 30,000 people permanently employed and reducing pressure on dollar demand for import

330 billion left

1 billion can build you four 50,000 capacity poultry farm ...you can look for the biggest poultry farmers and invest 1 billion each for 50 people ...or you can ask smaller farmers to form cooperatives ...do you know the effect this would have on our food security ? That's 50 billion ..this can create 2000 permanent jobs


We can do the same for fish farmers ...say 50 billion and create 3000 permanent jobs

Buying fishing trawlers for $1 million dollars and giving them to local fishermen would create employment ...50 billion can buy minimum of 75 trawlers...each can employ 15 people ...that's over a thousand people permanently ...

This is just less than half of that money used for that bridge ..half ooh ...

Doing the above n building bridge which would grow the economy more ?

Obere4u:


If there's no infrastructure, how will they transport, store their produce.

Jomonix:


How can you say that Obi is small. I believe it's because you are too small to recognize his might. Obi is a mighty man. Not in the sense of thuggery as many of you are disposed to admire but in the sense of character and knowledge. He is a great man my friend.

limeta:
Who gives you what they don't have
What future can Atiku or Tinubu give you, Old men that should be in old people's home
A future that they will not be part of that should scare you .

ZUBY77:


Perfectly said. You are smart.
Where is the electricity Fashola Said its not rocket science?

I hate these people.

LeoDeKing:

Me too.

Dsalvo:


This is what IPOBians and some Nigerian youths do not have the maturity and pragmatic intellect to accept.

Well, let everyone go and cast their vote. I have not been wrong in my predictions here once and I am consistently correct when virtually all others get it wrong because I am pragmatically analytical always even if it is my own father who is the subject of discussion.

I am never biased, emotional or sentimental when the issue is about getting resukts6and solutions.

I said it before the APC Primaries, many times, that Northern governors will defy outgoing Buhari to crown the incoming King Tinubu because they will not do 'abobaku' with a departing President.

I am boldly predicting it now that the big margin of loss Obi will suffer will show he is nothing but medis hype and the choice of thoze desperate but grossly uniformed. Like hateful IPOBians and frustrated youth who lack knowledge of Niherisn politics and how it works.

https://www.nairaland.com/7161944/breaking-acn-caucus-should-produce/1

Martinssweet:
Bro you make sense I like your write up is only foolish people that won't accept the truth at this point of Nigeria people are still talking about trib, tribalism is what keeping Nigeria on this condition let your trib be president even he will loot the money for poor masses Obasanjo tenure is the same atiku that loot the money for electricity is the same tinubu that pack billion van money for poor masses

Prinxzona10:


I'm quoting you for the very first time and it will also be the last time too.
I do read some of your silly banters here and you always sound very destructive,frustrated, hateful and bitterly damaged buh please,don't bring such your silly tribalist mentality to my post,you take it to where your type of uninformed slaves dwells not here.
Every of your comments always carries hate!hate!!hate!!! ,always accusing people of hating you buh in actual sense,you eat hate,you sleep hate,you breath hate,you drink hate or don't you read your messages here huh?
You hating on some people that knows nothing about your existence just to sustain the subjugations these political elites have on the masses and you think you ain't insane?
Peddle down on the way you jump on every post cursing and abusing the Igbos because they ain't responsible for your frustrations,depressions and your predicaments,instead channel your anger to that your oppressor you always come here to defend and fight for,ranting like a castrated chameleon on heat...
Finally,if you fail to reduce your hateful tablet intake,it will surely consume you because the way you're going with this your Igbo hate,you're likely not to survive it and mind you,whether Peter Obi,Atiku or Tinubu becomes the president, it changes nothing for me buh it will reshape those poor masses,the downtrodden and the less privileged and your demi god Tinubu represents darkness and evil buh I don't expect you to see it because you're both spiritually and physically blind...
Lastly,take your tribalist tendencies to your fellow deranged and demented souls because here is for sane minds and not for some urchins,miscreants that reason far beyond an ordinary animal...
NB: I don't engage your type and I cannot stoop too low for such because you guys disgusts and irritates sane minds here...
I rest my case..Gracias!!!!

Prinxzona10:
People shouldn't use because of politics or hatred towards someone and be disgracing themselves especially the so called educated ones.
Firstly,Peter Obi never said that Infrastructure do not drive economy buh what he said was that,you cannot borrow money and start building an elephant projects(infrastructures) that wouldn't have immediate positive impact on the citizens and if we must put partisan politics aside,he's right if not,why hasn't the money APC borrowed so far(over 30+ trillion naira) in the name of building infrastructures affected Nigerians positively?.
Primordial segregation is an epitome of unthinkable people because when Fashola was trying to sound educated in other to counter Peter Obi,he never knew that he sounded awkwardly unintelligent because I don't see any reason why you borrowed money to build maybe Niger bridge and every materials will be imported both human resources and Peter Obi was telling you that you can invest this same money in a human development first(build some immediate impartable infrastructures such as roads especially the ones leading to the farms for exportations of Agricultural produce,schools,hospitals etc)there by creating jobs for your citizens and when been educated,your citizens can now produce those materials use in building the bridge,they can build the bridge,pay taxes and all that and by so doing,you have created some millions of jobs for your own citizens thereby improving the government income through their taxes.. .
Remove hatred and you will understand that Fashola thinks like normal Nigeria lazy political elites of which his ideas favors only them and remember that they always siphon at least 50% or above of the money borrowed while Peter Obi thinks about the masses because he wants to create jobs for the youths.
See, they keep on borrowing and importing everything including human resources(empowering their citizens and the money going back to their country eg China) hence the reason our graduates especially the Engineers remains unemployed and that's what Peter Obi is coming to stop hence the reason he always lament about moving from *Consumption* to *Production* and since they have been doing this same thing, what has change? Instead we keep getting low every day by day and somebody will still have the temerity,the alacrity to speak of the same pattern and people that called themselves graduates or educated morons will be clapping for the same person,arguing that he's right buh he has been in this failed government for almost 8 years or why haven't them implemented all these patterns if they're serious or he just want to counter Peter Obi just because he's opening their corrupt and selfish ass ....
The simple truth about all this logic is that Fashola is talking about the temporal solution while Peter Obi is talking about the permanent solution...
Eg,Fashola is cutting the tree from the branches while Peter Obi wants to cut the same tree from the tap roots.
I guess the different is clear and what baffles me most is that why all these attacks on Peter Obi and even Fashola that many people rated higher, is descending so low just to proof a political or a tribal point.....
Political elites like Fashola are after the short terms while Peter Obi is after the both short terms and long terms via the future...
Finally,the political elites belongs to consumption circles while the masses belongs to production circles and since we have been doing the same thing as Fashola said(consumption),what have those things profited to a common man on the street instead,everyday the rich are getting richer while the poor are getting poorer because they always share the money among themselves hence the reason they wouldn't want the status que to change .
Finally,if you're a youth or even a Nigerian via Igbo,Yoruba,Hausa,Ijaw,Fulani,Nupe,Ibibio,Jukun etc,try to understand that these political elites never had you in their minds and they will not until you rise and fight to emancipate yourself from their political,economic,mental,psychological,financial and slavish bondage..
Think about yourself,your future and that of your children...
I rest my case ,Gracias!!!!

Mod: Please,move this to the front page and I will buy you the Earth!!!!

Misterone:
attack dogs ready to whitewash Obi of whatever blemishes. Rubbish and ingredient. Maybe these dogs should check the meaning of infrastructure before making stupid and foolish threads on this forum. Infrastructure is key to every development. Obi slaves take that to the bank.

Prinxzona10:


Sorry buh let me take my time to educate you a little bit sir/madam..
Please,read what I wrote again,then you would understand the motives behind my submission because you cannot be doing same thing all the time and expect a different results.
Peter Obi never said that infrastructures ain't an economy's driving force buh what prompted him to emphasized more on human development first was because the money they borrowed for all these so called infrastructures was looted and they're still looting it,thereby rendering the citizens unemployed,hungry and jobless.
Only one person stole #80b naira,have you check what that money would've done to Nigerian citizens or the kind of employment the money would've brought for the citizens when utilize judiciously?
You cannot borrow money and start building an elephant projects that got no positive impact on the citizens and logically,after borrowing to build railways,what happens to the railways now when insecurity is the other of the day buh you can create a favorable environment, create jobs and those people causing insecurities would gets their hands busy with some legitimate works thereby reducing the criminal activities in the society and doing so,is when your so called infrastructures will thrive via that a conducive atmosphere(which is peace) drives infrastructural developments through human development buh when there's no conducive atmosphere (insecurities everywhere) and no human development (poverty everywhere including unemployment) ,how would your infrastructure thrive? ..
Sir/madam,you cannot keep borrowing money and be using it for an elephant projects when your citizens are dying of hunger,when the employment rate is very high,when all the development indices are in negativity..
My word is that you cannot achieve any infrastructural development without achieving a human development simultaneously(and that's the problem with this APC government via borrowing to build Niger bridge,railways when the citizens are jobless,hungry and very poor)...
I just decided to lecture some of you guys because is like education in Nigeria affected all of us or is it the APC government brouhaha...
I rest my case...Gracias!!!!

mrvitalis:
Fashola is myopic in his reasoning .. and the job or economic boom is only but temporary let's check it

350 billion was used to build second Niger bridge ...how many people was employed permanently by that contract I can boldly tell you not more than 200 , contract staff not more than 10,000

If you gave 1 billion each to manufacturer in that area that focus on import substitution or exportable products ...you would have 350 multi billion factories

Let's take a garment factory for exam ..a 1 billion Naira garment factory can easily ... easily employ 2000 permanently and pay them over 80k per month ...their tax would be 12k say worse case 8k ...that's 16 million revenue from that business alone add profit tax you have around 50 million guaranteed revenue for government ...say you have around 20 garment factory funded and say 15 survive that's 750 million revenue guaranteed and 30,000 people permanently employed and reducing pressure on dollar demand for import

330 billion left

1 billion can build you four 50,000 capacity poultry farm ...you can look for the biggest poultry farmers and invest 1 billion each for 50 people ...or you can ask smaller farmers to form cooperatives ...do you know the effect this would have on our food security ? That's 50 billion ..this can create 2000 permanent jobs


We can do the same for fish farmers ...say 50 billion and create 3000 permanent jobs

Buying fishing trawlers for $1 million dollars and giving them to local fishermen would create employment ...50 billion can buy minimum of 75 trawlers...each can employ 15 people ...that's over a thousand people permanently ...

This is just less than half of that money used for that bridge ..half ooh ...

Doing the above n building bridge which would grow the economy more ?

LeoDeKing:

Me too.