afrodoc:



What happens to Bruno?

He might have to settle for a shared role with Eriksen assuming we get all our targets and if ETH elects to play Lisandro as a DM then it's a battle between Eriksen/VDB/Bruno...I don't know who wins but I know who will lose out and it's definitely Bruno unless he modifies his game...

ovoP:
they failed because we didn't have a competent manager, and the team was disjointed. When dey leave us, they do better

Let me assume you are right so, why do you think the players coming in will struggle under a competent manager?

Oasis007:


Jones is left behind to working on personal fitness.

Let them shred the contract abi na him papa get the ground wey Old Trafford dey sit on?

patrickmuf:
He might have to settle for a shared role with Eriksen assuming we get all our targets and if ETH elects to play Lisandro as a DM then it's a battle between Eriksen/VDB/Bruno... I don't know who wins but I know who will lose out and it's definitely Bruno unless he modifies his game...

Expert17 won't ever agree.

patrickmuf:
He might have to settle for a shared role with Eriksen assuming we get all our targets and if ETH elects to play Lisandro as a DM then it's a battle between Eriksen/VDB/Bruno...I don't know who wins but I know who will lose out and it's definitely Bruno unless he modifies his game...

I like that there is competition in that position. Bruno was too petulant last season and his discipline fell off. I still don't see how VDB gets a starting shirt though he could be a valuable member of the team. With 5 subs per match there should enough opportunities for everyone.

patrickmuf:
Let them shred the contract abi na him papa get the ground wey Old Trafford dey sit on?

Somebody that should be released to Nottingham Forest free of charge.

afrodoc:


I like that there is competition in that position. Bruno was too petulant last season and his discipline fell off. I still don't see how VDB gets a starting shirt though he could be a valuable member of the team. With 5 subs per match there should enough opportunities for everyone.

VDB has the advantage of knowing the system and is very good at it so, he'd thrive alongside other players who are comfortable on the ball passing and movement alike...

A midfield 3 of FDJ, VDB and Eriksen will see a lot of intricate plays between them compared to a Bruno who will quickly opt for a difficult ball in search of the striker...In all, VDB chances of starting depends on what ETH does with another potential arrival in Lisandro...

In ETH's system, it's VDB over Bruno regardless of the struggles of VDB last seaaon.

Oasis007:




Somebody that should released to Nottingham Forest free of charge.

Forrest will probably reject him...Salford City will be a good fit...Neville, take one for United...

patrickmuf:
Let me assume you are right so, why do you think the players coming in will struggle under a competent manager?

I'm not saying they'll struggle, my issue is the price, because If they don't fit in, or if ETH struggles, we'll have our hands full..

patrickmuf:
He might have to settle for a shared role with Eriksen assuming we get all our targets and if ETH elects to play Lisandro as a DM then it's a battle between Eriksen/VDB/Bruno...I don't know who wins but I know who will lose out and it's definitely Bruno unless he modifies his game...

I just know bruno will play, even maguire will play, I think it's in these coaches contracts.. if not we would have waited before given him a new contract.. I don't know why but I don't Rate vdb, unless he's coming to play muller role in the team.

patrickmuf:
He might have to settle for a shared role with Eriksen assuming we get all our targets and if ETH elects to play Lisandro as a DM then it's a battle between Eriksen/VDB/Bruno...I don't know who wins but I know who will lose out and it's definitely Bruno unless he modifies his game...

Lmfao

afrodoc:


I like that there is competition in that position. Bruno was too petulant last season and his discipline fell off. I still don't see how VDB gets a starting shirt though he could be a valuable member of the team. With 5 subs per match there should enough opportunities for everyone.

Bruno is a type of player, that if things are not going well, he tries to force the issue.. playing with a midfield with mctominay and Fred, can take its toll on you.. the both of them cannot spread the ball from 1 side of the field to Another with pass, this make him drop deep and start launching those long balls, which where effective when rashford was in form..

patrickmuf:
VDB has the advantage of knowing the system and is very good at it so, he'd thrive alongside other players who are comfortable on the ball passing and movement alike...

A midfield 3 of FDJ, VDB and Eriksen will see a lot of intricate plays between them compared to a Bruno who will quickly opt for a difficult ball in search of the striker...In all, VDB chances of starting depends on what ETH does with another potential arrival in Lisandro...

In ETH's system, it's VDB over Bruno regardless of the struggles of VDB last seaaon.

I still don't see VDB starting.. he may have done well that ajax season, but he's a limited player.. man can't play a long pass to save his life.. there's a reason he could never bench Bruno, even in his worse form. He plays too safe.. Eriksen can but I think him and Bruno will play together. Besides eriksen wouldn't be able to press as much.

ETH will bench a player with 217 g/a in 5 seasons averaging 43g/a per season.

Even in his worst season he was the highest assist provider in UCL.

By December "I told you so" shall commence

ovoP:
I still don't see VDB starting.. he may have done well that ajax season, but he's a limited player.. man can't play a long pass to save his life.. there's a reason he could never bench Bruno, even in his worse form. He plays too safe.. Eriksen can but I think him and Bruno will play together. Besides eriksen wouldn't be able to press as much.

Bruno played for the 3rd best team in Portugal and beasted every individual awards and stats. Goals, assists, chances created, league best player.

Just imagine Bruno playing for the best team in Holland.

It's only in their head VDB will bench Bruno as a 10/SS

ovoP:
I still don't see VDB starting.. he may have done well that ajax season, but he's a limited player.. man can't play a long pass to save his life.. there's a reason he could never bench Bruno, even in his worse form. He plays too safe.. Eriksen can but I think him and Bruno will play together. Besides eriksen wouldn't be able to press as much.

VDB can't play long pass? He game isn't all about that but if there's a good chance, he will go long...I see you're sold on Bruno's long passes which are mostly not accurate...

Top team use quick interchanges in midfield to bypass press and create spaces for forward players...Bruno is most at risk ATM...

Expert17:


Bruno played for the 3rd best team in Portugal and beasted every individual awards and stats. Goals, assists, chances created, league best player.

Just imagine Bruno playing for the best team in Holland.

It's only in their head VDB will bench Bruno as a 10/SS

It's about the style of play, will Bruno fit in?

Expert17:
ETH will bench a player with 217 g/a in 5 seasons averaging 43g/a per season.

Even in his worst season he was the highest assist provider in UCL.

By December "I told you so" shall commence

Bruno understands that stats can easily mask performance hence he strives to score or assist just so when you look back you'd absolve him of any blame but not all of us use stats alone to judge players...

Over 90mins, Bruno will play trash only to score or assist and next thing, the headlines are dominated by his goal or assist...Stats has done more harm than good...

David Silva, Fabregas and co posed god numbers yet they were very mich involved in controlling the flow of their team...

patrickmuf:
Forrest will probably reject him...Salford City will be a good fit...Neville, take one for United...

. Wiked...


Jones is still better than the big headed fridge.

ETH: "Of course, I want to bring the energy in my team. But I must say, the players do really well. They are really focused. They bring, for themselves, the energy.

"You see they enjoy playing football. They enjoy playing football together and they really work well together."

ETH: "I have to learn, to know my squad, the personnel, the individuals, the players.

"That is, I think, one of the biggest advantages from the tour. We have two weeks to work really close together and we will learn about each other because I want to learn about them and they want to learn about me, my coaches and assistants.”

ETH: “We want to play a proactive style of football, on the ball and off the ball. Trying to do that has to be our intention. The coaches bring it over to the team that we are, in every situation, proactive.

“We are brave and willing to have the ball, to give each other options. But also off the ball, to get the pressing style is what we're working for together."

Oasis007:
ETH: "I have to learn, to know my squad, the personnel, the individuals, the players.

"That is, I think, one of the biggest advantages from the tour. We have two weeks to work really close together and we will learn about each other because I want to learn about them and they want to learn about me, my coaches and assistants.”

Let him learn fast o! Some of those players are very deceitful.

ETH: “You see they [MUFC Players] enjoy playing football. They enjoy playing football together and they really work well together.”

Dan-Axel Zagadou is now a free agent at 23 and no big club deh look him side.


I remember when we couldn't rest on this thread for shouts of Zagadis and Zagadat

patrickmuf:
You don't think we need a new Rb? Lisandro is close to joining so, the Cb position is nearly sorted.

You can't criticize Ole for signing AWB and Maguire and still question the decision of the new manager to bring in quality players to man those positions unless you were just criticizing Ole for criticism sake...

How did that post suggest i didn't want a new RB? I called ovo.P to let him know ETH actually want to sign a RB, since he was questioning United signing a LB rather than a RB...

Oasis007:
TOUR SQUAD

Goalkeepers 
David De Gea
Tom Heaton
Nathan Bishop
Matej Kovar

Defenders
Eric Bailly
Diogo Dalot
Ethan Laird
Victor Lindelof
Harry Maguire
Tyrell Malacia
Luke Shaw
Alex Telles
Axel Tuanzebe
Raphael Varane
Aaron Wan-Bissaka

Midfielders
Amad
Bruno Fernandes
Fred
James Garner
Hannibal
Zidane Iqbal
Scott McTominay
Facundo Pellistri
Charlie Savage
Donny van de Beek

Forwards
Tahith Chong
Anthony Elanga
Alejandro Garnacho
Anthony Martial
Marcus Rashford
Jadon Sancho

Shoretire didn't make the tour...
Modified:
Saw your follow up post on Shoretire....

Oasis007:
ETH: "Of course, I want to bring the energy in my team. But I must say, the players do really well. They are really focused. They bring, for themselves, the energy.

"You see they enjoy playing football. They enjoy playing football together and they really work well together."

Ole favourite lines during pressers

afrodoc:


I suspect that there will be a couple of surprise beneficiaries of this ETH appointment. A couple of players whose days seemed numbered might bounce back like Tafa.

Players who have good ball control in the squad are the ones most likely to benefit from ETH.

E.g. Sancho, VDB.

Oasis007:
ETH: “We want to play a proactive style of football, on the ball and off the ball. Trying to do that has to be our intention. The coaches bring it over to the team that we are, in every situation, proactive.

“We are brave and willing to have the ball, to give each other options. But also off the ball, to get the pressing style is what we're working for together."

I hope the tour will show ETH McTom isn't suited for his style of play, he ought to have even seen it during training sef. That dude should be sent on loan to free up space for a more quality/competent midfielder...

TeslaFC:


Players who have good ball control in the squad are the ones most likely to benefit from ETH.

E.g. Sancho, VDB.

Yet he wants to buy brobbey, and we are talking of technical players.. not VDB doesn't have this ball control you're talking of.

TrebleChamp:
How did that post suggest i didn't want a new RB? I called ovo.P to let him know ETH actually want to sign a RB, since he was questioning United signing a LB rather than a RB...

Okay, I thought you were critical of the idea seeing that ovo.P has been questioning all the signings and players we are linked to...